I have a link to a petition on my profile to open up a new investigation into 911, you have the option of remaining anonymous. I have seen many signatures from around the world.
9 months prior to 9/11 they changed the elevators in both towers and it was the opportunity to distribute the nano-thermite that took away the core of the building. It was made of 200 tons of steal that melts at 1583C. A building higher than 200 meters turns into dust in 10 seconds. Wake up, it was not caused by the fire. It was not hotter than maximum 600C. Nano-thermite is the answer and it has now been prooven. If people don't react, bigger things will soon happen. Spread the message.
Nano-thermite has been found in the dust from WTC. That is the tragic fact. Only the military had access to this high-tech material. Look at building 7. It explodes, noone can seriously suggest anything else, it collapses in 6 seconds and that is why it is NEVER televised.
Yes it has been found in all 4 samples taken from the WTC. One of the samples was taken 20 minutes after the collapse. You are right about that NIST didn't find it, but they also admit that they didn't look for it.
Take your own advice, and look it up. I already have. The published paper does NOT, in any part state they found "nano-thermite" thermite, thermate, double secret probation thermite, or whatever u kooks are calling it these days.
And in fact, the paper even specifically stated (page 25) they never even ATTEMPTED to match the material found to any type of thermite/nanothermite, etc.
Damn. Must be humiliating that u talk that shit, only to find out I knew your sources better than you did.
At the end of the day, several surveys have been taken (CNN has one on their site) that more than 60% of Americans now believe that we were lied to about exactly how 9/11 happened. Do they think the Gov did it? No. The idea is that the Gov allowed it to happen because those in Gov and big business stood to make billions at the idea of fighting terror. Now that its been proven the Gov blatantly lied about things like yellow cake and who knew what, 9/11 is looking more and more like a fraud.
If you have a link to the CNN poll, id be glad to review it. But in the end its a moot point. Of course we are never told exactly everything. Just as people in 1941 werent told exactly everything about what went on in WWII, Pearl harbor, et et et.
Even in a terrorist attack, there are valid reasons for a govt to not tell everything it knows.
Sure, govt lies. But does that in any way make it impossible for a country to be attacked by terrorists? Nope. Completely inane logic.
To your comment of "does that...make it impossible for a country to be attacked" the answer of course is no...but that was never the point.
The point was that 9/11 is becoming more and more likely a coverup based on evidence that Gov has been telling lies about HUGE details. They used fear that was based on misinformation and lies to force Americans/leaders to support a war and endless trillion dollar private defense/oil contracts. Those are all facts, not opinions
Many intelligent people out there (including congressmen, senators etc) are realizing that the American people have been tricked into supporting BS policies for years...this was just another example. If you don't believe our Gov would do such a thing, look at Operation Northwoods...thats a perfect example that our Gov has been doing stuff like this for a LONG time...its all about money and Americans are ignorant to think otherwise. So many other countries think it was a massive coverup as well
You know what Northwoods would be considered if you or I planned all that? CONSPIRACY and TREASON! Wed be jailed for that if not executed. Youre telling me that just because they didnt actually carry it out that we should disregard it altogether? And lets not forget that in 2005, the NSA declassified the Gulf of Tonkin incident where they admitted to firing upon a US war ship and blaming it on the Vietnamese as a pretext for war (i.e. the Tonkin Resolution of 64)
LOL, as always, the kooks dont have the guts to actually STATE what they believe, because thet KNOW its bullshit.
Sorry skippy (and read MY comments again little girl =]) I never quoted you as saying it was.
But the entire conversation (northwoods references, et al, et cetera) are all predicated on that claim--even if youve not the guts to admit what you believe.
But if you believed it was an outside job, wed have no discussion. =]
Wow, so now it seems youve forgotten your actual quotes now? Let me quote your last statement:
Really? Wow! So remind me, how many countries have gone before the UN and demanded sanction against the US for its illegal invasions based on a false flag coverup?
50? 75? 100? How many?
So before you continue to lie about what was said, make sure you read every comment. And please.grow up and stop the childish remarks. You only hurt your credibility by reacting like a child.
LMAO, before you lie about what what ***I*** said, read it again.
Since you were prolly home-schooled, let me explain.
In the English Language, there is a thing call a QUESTION MARK. It looks like this -->?.
When you see that, its not a QUOTE of something you said. When you see that, no one is claiming its something you said. Its a request for you to tell them something.
"So, start doing a little research yourself dude, its not that hard."
Not hard at all for me. But VERY difficult for you it seems. Since you cant find ANY reference at all to support your lie that the NSA admitted to firing on the maddox. LOL.
Sure, but the GOT audio tapes never say "NSA admits that they fired on the Maddox so we could blame it on the NVA."
And that was your claim.
Wanna post a link? Delete the 3 w's, and replace dots with *'s.
Sooooo, the answer is no? Can you not provide sufficient evidence or support against what Ive shown you?
Are you that angry that I've shown you a lot of irrefutable evidence for which you claimed I was making it all up?
Thats what I thought. Its clear your immediate response to things you can't answer (rather than taking the high road and researching evidence put in front of you) is to attempt to discredit those giving it to you. Nice try
As for Northwoods suggesting I believe it was an inside job, that is your fault for assuming. I used to that suggest that the Gov is quite capable of false flagging our country and has considered doing so for a while. As Ive said before, I think the Gov had a small role in the entire event (in an effort to aid the process) and the rest they simply pretended to not have any advance knowledge of (although theres proof we have). Its happened in the past (as Ive proven above) and it can happen again
Now that I've given you several items of concrete proof that we've done this in the past and likely had involvement in 9/11 (i.e. Northwoods, Golf of Tonkin...I can come up with more!), where is your proof that 9/11 was not?
We have been lied to about the biggest elements of 9/11 and there are endless nonsensical coverups...for example, why hide all the video tapes of flight 77? Why lie about WMD? Why lie about Yellow Cake? Why lie about knowing in advance when the Aug 6 PDB says otherwise?
"we've done this in the past and likely had involvement in 9/11 "
1) Meaning, inside job, Thanks for admitting this is your belief, and I was right all along.
2) You havent really established anything yet. A) Northwoods was rejected, thereby indicating that (if anything) the USG would REFUSE to false flag. Not that it would do it. B) Ur GOT lie is still unsubstanitated.
"Why lie about knowing in advance when the Aug 6 PDB says otherwise?"
1) Id ask you to cite the advanced warning in the aug 6 PDB, but as always, youd just run away and refuse to answer questions.
So, to continue to the ksit of questions youv dodged,
2) That Northwoods was considered 38 years earlier proves 911 was an inside job HOW exactly (hint: whining "im not saying it was an inside job" is NOT the question)
3) if other countries know 911 was an inside job (again, thanks for admitting this is your claim) covered up, why are they all silent?
4) If you or I planned Northwoods, it would be treason. How does that make 911 an inside job (hint: whining "I didnt say it was" is not the question--the question is how NW is proof. Not if u are claiming an IJ or not.
5) How many countries in the UN have demanded sanction? (hint--the answer is a number between 0 and 1,000)
Here you go again...how many times does it take for me to tell you I never said it was an inside job? Nor did I say other countries did...what part of that don't you get?
I see now all you can do is scream and yell over other people without looking at the evidence...at all. I've provided you several credible references and you simply turn a blind eye to it...You treat the evidence as if they have the most extreme intentions just so you don't have to believe it
And whos the conspiracy theorist? You really believe that there are people out there who are just out to get you? As if me and 4 other youtubers have banned together to come after you? LMAO, idiotic fag! You're not that important dude, especially if you spend all day ranting on about things you've got no evidence of.
Go back to your food stamps and your needlepoint of the Bush family, lol. When you're ready to join the rest of the real world, maybe people will take you seriously
" You really believe that there are people out there who are just out to get you? "
Awe heck no. Im not one of those "NWO" kooks. I just laugh at kookspiritards who are so insecure, they have to call in for back-up when they get pwned. =]
So how does it feel knowing that you were the slut of the military? lol. What I love even more is that it makes you right winged wack jobs squirm to know that "a gay person" might have stood next to you at one point, hha.
I served in the military and I'm proud of it, but most of them have gay tendencies and just go down that self hating path based on what military tradition forces on them..poor guys.
That also goes for the police/fireman and many other heroic public servants.
Anyway, thats enough fun for a day, haha. I've got a life to attend to and I'm sure you've got your atomically engorged wife who is marginally employed by Burger King to attend to as well...don't forget to wash between her muffin top flaps!
Translation: "Im UTM and I Got my ass kicked. Cant answer the questions. I have to run away. With all my overt gay references to Edgeman, I have to jack off thinking about him now"
oh wait now I understand why you're such an idiot...you're one of those people that think US can do no wrong, lol. After looking at your page, its all so clear.
And if you're in the military, I'll bet you're one of those who gets fucked by every member of your company and then tries extra hard to compensate for it, lol.
Maybe things will be easier for you once "dont ask, don't tell" gets lifted. After all a LOT of the military is gay, lol. Love em all, but enough with being so closeted
Aw, whats wrong little mr insecure? Don't like the truth? Dude, you're pathetic! And I love how your first moronic defense to someone who doesn't think like you do is, "achmed" as if its supposed to be an insult, lol. Do you have any idea how racist that is?
Why don't you toss out the N word and other wonderful racial slurs while you're at it? You're likely one of those white trash walmart workers who gets fucked each sunday by your preacher after the church service...AMEN! lmao
"Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US." When the warning is reflected in the title of the Aug 6 PDB, I don't know if it can get any more clear.
Once again, its clear all you want to do is support one very extreme view. When 60% of America has been alerted to the failures of the Gov in the last decade, you're one of those who refuse to believe Bush or republicans can do wrong...which is fine, because I make a lot of money off people like you lol. Good luck in life!
Dude, have you even ready the Aug 6th PDB? Let me make quotes,
"bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative's access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike."
"...indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York."
"...bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."
Furthering my questions to you that you STILL have not answered, If the passport could be found at ground zero, then why not 4 black boxes made to withstand exactly the types of conditions presented on 9/11?
If paper seems to be the miracle material here, how could some of the strongest components on the airplane have simply vanished into thin air?
Again, please be mature when responding and leave out your ridiculous comments and insulting assumptions...have an intelligent conversation
The 4 black boxes HAS been answered, by me, 14 hours ago.
If youre not going to read the answers, dont ask the questions. And certainly dont whine about immaturity, when you havent the maturity to even attempt to read the questions.
Do you have any reference to say that the black boxes are made to exactly stand a 300k ton building being dropped on them?
LMAO you're an idiot dude. Clearly you've got insecurities that run REALLY deep. This guy is trying to have an intelligent conversation with you and you can't even comprehend half of what hes saying lol.
Way to go fuck nut.
And the fact that you think the black boxes can't survive 300k tons but PAPER can proves you've got no business defending this topic, lol. At least he looks at both sides of the story lmao
Looks like you're the little liar!!! What a proud moment for you haha!
"So many other countries think it was a massive coverup as well "
Really? Wow! So remind me, how many countries have gone before the UN and demanded sanction against the US for its illegal invasions based on a false flag coverup?
Oh lord, are your childish remarks some sort of attempt to make you feel like you're smarter?
So are you going to continue to ignore the fact that the black boxes just seemed to vanish into thin air? After all, they are one of the strongest components of an aircraft specifically designed to withstand a crash (including flight 592 or psa 1771), but who even cares about that right?
Yes, paper must truly be the strongest material man ever created, lol
Once again, you're twisting words. I never said they demanded sanction...not once...not even that far.
I simply said most believe 9/11 was a coverup as an outsider looking in. Most countries DID think we were nuts when we wanted to invade originally (using evidence of WMD, yellow cake) which is why they didn't suppot us.
Anyway, its clear this entire topic gives you a rager, so I'll leave it be for the night. Maybe you'll learn to look at both sides of the coin and open your eyes one day
Really? USing words like facts, and evidence, but only providing anecdotes is not good enough. The media would love to uncover this stuff, but when they print every wacky accusation by the 'truth' movement they look foolish because it doesn't stand up..( excuse the pun).
jfk and 911 were done by the same group of criminals. if there is another investigation it will be another white wash. But I think that 911 was their biggest mistake, and it will ultimately be their undoing.
That's what people who want a new investigation fail to see. Why would the party involved in the crime, fairly investigate themselves? All The stone walling in the congress and media should at least clue to complicity in the crime. We have now come of age as a nation. We look at the raw image of our government and see that it is incredibly lawless. Who has the power to prosecute congress, the executive branch and pentagon? WE THE PEOPLE need to do the investigation ourselves and find guilty.
Thats what the kooks fail to see. They dont actually have any evidence that the investigation was done by a guilty party, since there is zero evidence of an inside job.
This would be like the idea of (God forbid, ur neghbor is murdered) there is overwhelming evidence and mutiple confessions, but you just say "I want to pretend the cops killed my neighbor! So I should be able to investigate it myself!"
The people DID investigate it, through their reps. Its a normal function of govt.
The strongest evidence is before our eyes( if we want to see) that show puffs of smoke shooting out the window sides just like a controlled demolition. Tower seven looks like a textbook demolition. The hole in the pentagon looks like a mismatch and an impossible flying feat for noob pilot. I can go on and on but I know it would be a waste of time. You are just a denier of the obvious on some personal agenda. Your FOXian spins and PHD Quackery don't mean shit to me.
If thats the strongest evidence you have, its no wonder people dont take you kooks seriously.
You talk about Texbook demolitions, with no education, training or experience in Demolitions. You talk about the "hole' not matching, yet have no experience investigating airline crashes, or building performance reporting. You talk about "impossible flying" with NO IDEA what the manuver was.
Youre like the idiots who, even today, still believe the Earth is flat. "I can just look at! and see"
1) exactly what textbook that teaches demolition charges never make a sound, and demolitions never leave behind moutains of evidence of det cords, shock tunes, et cetera?
2) Exactly how many airplanes ahve you see fly into steel re-enforced concrete? And by extension, what should then the hole look like.
3) What about the manuver, in ur mind, was soooo impossible? Compare the specifics to an autopilot turn and descent--what differences do you see?
In the end, youre the perfect example of why no one takes the kook movement seriously. what is "obvious and right in front of us" is that youre completely unqualified to make the claims that you made.
youre like a man, blind since birth, listening to a baseball game on the radio and screaming "Hey Ump! He missed the tag!"
ONE of us is denying the obvious, in pursuit of a personal agenda (likely your own Walter Mitty Fantasy) But it aint me.
I mean really, how could you not be suspicious of the story when they said they found one of the terrorist's IDs at ground zero? You're telling me a few sheets of paper survived that massive fireball? Really?
The Gov (like any other Gov out there) lies to its people now and again...for example, its proven the Gov knew foods with Trans Fats/MSG or Aspartame were bad for us, yet they turned a blind eye to it. For decades they allowed us to eat these foods without any warrning, why? MONEY!!!!!!
"You're telling me a few sheets of paper survived that massive fireball? Really?"
wow, REALLY? So you never even did a min of 20 seconds of research on this? REALLY?
rense*com/1*imagesH/Sthitsideev*jpg
So all that debris in that picture--thats all from the building huh? non of that falling stuff is part from the airplane? 100% of the airplane is still inside the building?
Really? you REALLY believe none of that debris could possibly from the airplane?
cont--further, when you look at the papers and stuff blow out of the building in THAT pic. its pretty clear--after 5 secs of research--than tons of papers were blown out of the building.
Or, this pic--another 5 seconds this took me to find:
911myths*com/Flight_11_Seat_Cushion_Large*jpg
We see the street scattered with debris form the building--and an ac seat cushion--and yet much of the paper is basically undamaged.
So, you never thought for yourself, and researched this? Really?
cont-2. Additionally, if you researched airline crashes, its pretty normal for various random personal effects from pax and crew to be found.
So, you REALLY never researched the fact that tons of paper debris provably survived the fireball? Or that personal items are often found after a crash?
You really are confused by something perfectly normal to anyone who did simple research?
I love how make assumptions that I know nothing. First off, I'm quite sure I know more about commercial airline crashes than yourself.
Secondly, its interesting that you choose to believe that the black boxes never made it (and were supposedly never found either), yet all identification for other passengers/crew were destroyed? How do you justify that? And lets not forget that most of the paper on the streets was from the WTC offices
"First off, I'm quite sure I know more about commercial airline crashes than yourself."
Regardless of how sure you are, its quite certain that you dont know a squirt of piss when it comes to commercial crashes. Because people who DO know dont ask stupid questions like "how could that survive the crash and fireball?" Because people who even minimally know wtf the yare talking about know random items effects suvive every fireball/crash. Even the high-speeds like psa 1771, or valjet 592.
"most of the paper on the streets was from the WTC offices"
Thus CONFIRMING papers can be blown out of the building, and survive the fireball basically intact.
And NO, the passport wasnt the only things found. Ms Donna Snyder (I can pm anyone a link, if they want) received a letter, returned to her, that was carried as airmail on UA 175.
Lisa Frost--pax on UA 175, had her mileage plus card recovered.
Passport was the only item of import. But other items were found.
Yes, it is quite common that personal effects survive NORMAL plane crashes, but this was far from it. There were no investigators on scene to pick up the pieces of evidence right after and for the Gov to claim that they found this passport on the STREET yet no other passenger identification could be found is just insane. The probability of that is so low, its insulting the Gov thinks they can tell us that and get away with it...sadly, you've given them reason to think they can.
It was far from normal to the extent of HOW the crash happened. To my knowledge a terrorist hijacking/CFIT has never happened to a commercial airliner before.
But in terms of the physics, a crash is a crash. If things commonly survive other crashes, its 100% expected and normal that they would survive this one.
anyone who denies this now is a complete brain dead idiot.
jaybee123100 8 months ago
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cosmicmind1 2 years ago
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AmberEyedRose 2 years ago
Why was building 7 never mentioned in the 911 commission report?
bankersgreed 2 years ago 5
What about WTC7? It was on fire and never got attacked by the terrorist.
Take it as a fact and nothing more.
WhyAskQuestions 2 years ago 2
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EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Bank--because it was a report on the terrorist attack. Not a Kook report.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Excellent video,9/11: Blueprint For Truth 5***** there is to many holes in the 911 commission report.
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EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
There are a lot more holes in the kookspiracies. If holes bothered you, ud never be a kookspiratard.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
9 months prior to 9/11 they changed the elevators in both towers and it was the opportunity to distribute the nano-thermite that took away the core of the building. It was made of 200 tons of steal that melts at 1583C. A building higher than 200 meters turns into dust in 10 seconds. Wake up, it was not caused by the fire. It was not hotter than maximum 600C. Nano-thermite is the answer and it has now been prooven. If people don't react, bigger things will soon happen. Spread the message.
behuman61 2 years ago 3
Nano-thermite has been found in the dust from WTC. That is the tragic fact. Only the military had access to this high-tech material. Look at building 7. It explodes, noone can seriously suggest anything else, it collapses in 6 seconds and that is why it is NEVER televised.
behuman61 2 years ago 3
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EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Yes it has been found in all 4 samples taken from the WTC. One of the samples was taken 20 minutes after the collapse. You are right about that NIST didn't find it, but they also admit that they didn't look for it.
behuman61 2 years ago
Incorrect. what they found were elements common to the building and common to thermite. They just pretend thats thermite.
Read the paper for yourself. It only makes suggestions of thermite, hypotheticals of possible types of thermite.
Paper NEVER said, exclusively, this is thermite.
And since the Kook Cowards are afraid of the truth, so they remove the comments, you can reply in PMs, but I wont be back here.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Thermite was NOT found. THAT is the tragic fact.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
great call James. Thanks for posting the Richard Gage interview. 9/11 = Inside Job!!
paulymac 2 years ago 9
The government couldn't keep it quiet that clinton got a blow job yet they could keep 9/11 quiet for almost 8 years?
greywolf424 2 years ago
Sorry, george, but the real problem is that you have nothing.
And you are in Calgary? Are you one of nathan's friends? You guys suck. Even at being truthers.
dsglop 2 years ago
Truth is settled.
WTFaboutWTC7 2 years ago 2
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EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
They supposedly found "nano-thermite", look that up. And actually, anyone with a minimal education can spell "incendiary"...
trtnec 2 years ago
Take your own advice, and look it up. I already have. The published paper does NOT, in any part state they found "nano-thermite" thermite, thermate, double secret probation thermite, or whatever u kooks are calling it these days.
And in fact, the paper even specifically stated (page 25) they never even ATTEMPTED to match the material found to any type of thermite/nanothermite, etc.
Damn. Must be humiliating that u talk that shit, only to find out I knew your sources better than you did.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
The reason no one will touch it, is becaiise anyone with normal analytical skills sees it for what it is
The caller refers to exlosives planted in the buildings.
Only problem is that anyone wth min education knows thermite is not an explosive. Further, it cant be timed for demolition work.
Despite the fact that no thermite was found, the callers conclusions are worthless--he has no idea what hes talking about.
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sacdude20 2 years ago
At the end of the day, several surveys have been taken (CNN has one on their site) that more than 60% of Americans now believe that we were lied to about exactly how 9/11 happened. Do they think the Gov did it? No. The idea is that the Gov allowed it to happen because those in Gov and big business stood to make billions at the idea of fighting terror. Now that its been proven the Gov blatantly lied about things like yellow cake and who knew what, 9/11 is looking more and more like a fraud.
sacdude20 2 years ago
If you have a link to the CNN poll, id be glad to review it. But in the end its a moot point. Of course we are never told exactly everything. Just as people in 1941 werent told exactly everything about what went on in WWII, Pearl harbor, et et et.
Even in a terrorist attack, there are valid reasons for a govt to not tell everything it knows.
Sure, govt lies. But does that in any way make it impossible for a country to be attacked by terrorists? Nope. Completely inane logic.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
To your comment of "does that...make it impossible for a country to be attacked" the answer of course is no...but that was never the point.
The point was that 9/11 is becoming more and more likely a coverup based on evidence that Gov has been telling lies about HUGE details. They used fear that was based on misinformation and lies to force Americans/leaders to support a war and endless trillion dollar private defense/oil contracts. Those are all facts, not opinions
sacdude20 2 years ago
"but that was never the point."
If that was never the point, why do kooks ALWAYS say "duhh 911 wuz an insyd job beecuz govts alwayz lie! dats howe I kno it!"
If its not the point, why do kooks keep using it as proof of their kookspiracy theory?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Many intelligent people out there (including congressmen, senators etc) are realizing that the American people have been tricked into supporting BS policies for years...this was just another example. If you don't believe our Gov would do such a thing, look at Operation Northwoods...thats a perfect example that our Gov has been doing stuff like this for a LONG time...its all about money and Americans are ignorant to think otherwise. So many other countries think it was a massive coverup as well
sacdude20 2 years ago
1) Northwoods was never performed, so if anythying, Northwoods shows govt DOESNT false flag the us people.
2)Does the fact that the JCS contemplated a false flag 38 years earlier somehow make it impossible for terrorists to attack the US?
No.
Again, you will say "thats never the point" even after you use the logic to make the point.
So, Ill ask you in advance: Whats the point of Northwoods reference, if NOT to somehow support as proof 911 was not a terrorist attack?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
You know what Northwoods would be considered if you or I planned all that? CONSPIRACY and TREASON! Wed be jailed for that if not executed. Youre telling me that just because they didnt actually carry it out that we should disregard it altogether? And lets not forget that in 2005, the NSA declassified the Gulf of Tonkin incident where they admitted to firing upon a US war ship and blaming it on the Vietnamese as a pretext for war (i.e. the Tonkin Resolution of 64)
sacdude20 2 years ago
"You know what Northwoods would be considered if you or I planned all that? CONSPIRACY and TREASON! "
And that makes 911 an inside job how, exactly?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Again, I never said it was an inside job...read all my comments big guy :)
As for the credible link, just read the documents declassified by the NSA from 2005...google it dude, its real simple.
Just because you don't want to believe it, doesn't mean the facts don't exist, lol
sacdude20 2 years ago
"Again, I never said it was an inside job..."
LOL, as always, the kooks dont have the guts to actually STATE what they believe, because thet KNOW its bullshit.
Sorry skippy (and read MY comments again little girl =]) I never quoted you as saying it was.
But the entire conversation (northwoods references, et al, et cetera) are all predicated on that claim--even if youve not the guts to admit what you believe.
But if you believed it was an outside job, wed have no discussion. =]
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
"As for the credible link, just read the documents declassified by the NSA from 2005...google it dude, its real simple."
meaning you lied. It wasnt really true. You just want to defelct from the fact you got caught lying, by sending someone else on the wild-goose chase.
Sorry skippy, YOU make the claim, its YOURS to prove.
Unless ur a moron who believes every internet rumor, then you must have SOME reference for this claim.
Ur not a morn who believes every rumor blindly, R U?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Wow, so now it seems youve forgotten your actual quotes now? Let me quote your last statement:
Really? Wow! So remind me, how many countries have gone before the UN and demanded sanction against the US for its illegal invasions based on a false flag coverup?
50? 75? 100? How many?
So before you continue to lie about what was said, make sure you read every comment. And please.grow up and stop the childish remarks. You only hurt your credibility by reacting like a child.
sacdude20 2 years ago
LMAO, before you lie about what what ***I*** said, read it again.
Since you were prolly home-schooled, let me explain.
In the English Language, there is a thing call a QUESTION MARK. It looks like this -->?.
When you see that, its not a QUOTE of something you said. When you see that, no one is claiming its something you said. Its a request for you to tell them something.
::shakes head::: fuxing home schoolers.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
As for the proof to the Golf of Tonkin event, its not that hard. I can't post links on here otherwise it won't post the comment.
However, you can take the 2 minutes it takes to type "Golf of Tonkin Audio Tapes" into Google
The third link down is from NPR where they have all kinds of evidence INCLUDING the audio tapes between LBJ and McNamara
So, start doing a little research yourself dude, its not that hard. Just because you dont want to believe it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
sacdude20 2 years ago
"So, start doing a little research yourself dude, its not that hard."
Not hard at all for me. But VERY difficult for you it seems. Since you cant find ANY reference at all to support your lie that the NSA admitted to firing on the maddox. LOL.
Sure, but the GOT audio tapes never say "NSA admits that they fired on the Maddox so we could blame it on the NVA."
And that was your claim.
Wanna post a link? Delete the 3 w's, and replace dots with *'s.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Sooooo, the answer is no? Can you not provide sufficient evidence or support against what Ive shown you?
Are you that angry that I've shown you a lot of irrefutable evidence for which you claimed I was making it all up?
Thats what I thought. Its clear your immediate response to things you can't answer (rather than taking the high road and researching evidence put in front of you) is to attempt to discredit those giving it to you. Nice try
sacdude20 2 years ago
As for Northwoods suggesting I believe it was an inside job, that is your fault for assuming. I used to that suggest that the Gov is quite capable of false flagging our country and has considered doing so for a while. As Ive said before, I think the Gov had a small role in the entire event (in an effort to aid the process) and the rest they simply pretended to not have any advance knowledge of (although theres proof we have). Its happened in the past (as Ive proven above) and it can happen again
sacdude20 2 years ago
"As for Northwoods suggesting I believe it was an inside job, that is your fault for assuming."
There are no assumptions. its a fact. If you werent claiming an IJ, youd not be making the points you make.
for example, to question the passport. There are only 2 reads on that issue
1) its legit
2) or people manufactured it, and placed it at the scene for the purpose of covering up an IJ by tricking people into thinking it was terrorists.
U reject #1. Sorry. #2 is all thats left. =]
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Now that I've given you several items of concrete proof that we've done this in the past and likely had involvement in 9/11 (i.e. Northwoods, Golf of Tonkin...I can come up with more!), where is your proof that 9/11 was not?
We have been lied to about the biggest elements of 9/11 and there are endless nonsensical coverups...for example, why hide all the video tapes of flight 77? Why lie about WMD? Why lie about Yellow Cake? Why lie about knowing in advance when the Aug 6 PDB says otherwise?
sacdude20 2 years ago
"we've done this in the past and likely had involvement in 9/11 "
1) Meaning, inside job, Thanks for admitting this is your belief, and I was right all along.
2) You havent really established anything yet. A) Northwoods was rejected, thereby indicating that (if anything) the USG would REFUSE to false flag. Not that it would do it. B) Ur GOT lie is still unsubstanitated.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
"Why lie about knowing in advance when the Aug 6 PDB says otherwise?"
1) Id ask you to cite the advanced warning in the aug 6 PDB, but as always, youd just run away and refuse to answer questions.
So, to continue to the ksit of questions youv dodged,
2) That Northwoods was considered 38 years earlier proves 911 was an inside job HOW exactly (hint: whining "im not saying it was an inside job" is NOT the question)
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
3) if other countries know 911 was an inside job (again, thanks for admitting this is your claim) covered up, why are they all silent?
4) If you or I planned Northwoods, it would be treason. How does that make 911 an inside job (hint: whining "I didnt say it was" is not the question--the question is how NW is proof. Not if u are claiming an IJ or not.
5) How many countries in the UN have demanded sanction? (hint--the answer is a number between 0 and 1,000)
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Here you go again...how many times does it take for me to tell you I never said it was an inside job? Nor did I say other countries did...what part of that don't you get?
I see now all you can do is scream and yell over other people without looking at the evidence...at all. I've provided you several credible references and you simply turn a blind eye to it...You treat the evidence as if they have the most extreme intentions just so you don't have to believe it
sacdude20 2 years ago
Repeating a false denial, doesnt make it true.
Sorry, try again.
Call in for MORE backup. UTM isnt going to be enought. =]
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
And whos the conspiracy theorist? You really believe that there are people out there who are just out to get you? As if me and 4 other youtubers have banned together to come after you? LMAO, idiotic fag! You're not that important dude, especially if you spend all day ranting on about things you've got no evidence of.
Go back to your food stamps and your needlepoint of the Bush family, lol. When you're ready to join the rest of the real world, maybe people will take you seriously
UTManagement 2 years ago
" You really believe that there are people out there who are just out to get you? "
Awe heck no. Im not one of those "NWO" kooks. I just laugh at kookspiritards who are so insecure, they have to call in for back-up when they get pwned. =]
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
You're pathetic, lol. Grow some balls and stop sucking off Bush's lol.
Have fun in your own world of ignorance, haha
UTManagement 2 years ago
LOL. Id tell you to stop sucking Osama cock, but there is no use. You never will.
dude, you can hate Bush all you want to. Doesnt make 911 an inside job, Achmed.
Sorry!
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
So how does it feel knowing that you were the slut of the military? lol. What I love even more is that it makes you right winged wack jobs squirm to know that "a gay person" might have stood next to you at one point, hha.
I served in the military and I'm proud of it, but most of them have gay tendencies and just go down that self hating path based on what military tradition forces on them..poor guys.
That also goes for the police/fireman and many other heroic public servants.
UTManagement 2 years ago
blah blah blah. More insults, cant hang. Edge was right. blah blah blah.
" served in the military and I'm proud of it,"
Taliban dont count, Achmed.
Answers to the questions yet? or do you still have more gay fantaises about me you would like to share with the class? HAHAHAHA
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Anyway, thats enough fun for a day, haha. I've got a life to attend to and I'm sure you've got your atomically engorged wife who is marginally employed by Burger King to attend to as well...don't forget to wash between her muffin top flaps!
UTManagement 2 years ago
"Anyway, thats enough fun for a day"
Translation: "Im UTM and I Got my ass kicked. Cant answer the questions. I have to run away. With all my overt gay references to Edgeman, I have to jack off thinking about him now"
LMAO.
Another kook defeated.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
oh wait now I understand why you're such an idiot...you're one of those people that think US can do no wrong, lol. After looking at your page, its all so clear.
And if you're in the military, I'll bet you're one of those who gets fucked by every member of your company and then tries extra hard to compensate for it, lol.
Maybe things will be easier for you once "dont ask, don't tell" gets lifted. After all a LOT of the military is gay, lol. Love em all, but enough with being so closeted
UTManagement 2 years ago
"oh wait now I understand why you're such an idiot"
Blah blah blah. Edge is right. His questions are too tough for me. Call him names to hide embarassment blah blah blah. LOLOL.
answers to the question now please, achmed. =]
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Aw, whats wrong little mr insecure? Don't like the truth? Dude, you're pathetic! And I love how your first moronic defense to someone who doesn't think like you do is, "achmed" as if its supposed to be an insult, lol. Do you have any idea how racist that is?
Why don't you toss out the N word and other wonderful racial slurs while you're at it? You're likely one of those white trash walmart workers who gets fucked each sunday by your preacher after the church service...AMEN! lmao
UTManagement 2 years ago
Blah blah blah. More diversions from Achmed. Edge was right. He cant answer the questions. Blah blah blah.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
man you annoy everyone
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
Facts annoy only those who fear them.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
"Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US." When the warning is reflected in the title of the Aug 6 PDB, I don't know if it can get any more clear.
Once again, its clear all you want to do is support one very extreme view. When 60% of America has been alerted to the failures of the Gov in the last decade, you're one of those who refuse to believe Bush or republicans can do wrong...which is fine, because I make a lot of money off people like you lol. Good luck in life!
sacdude20 2 years ago
"I don't know if it can get any more clear."
it could be MUCH clearer. for example, anything specific that could actually indicate what the attack actually was going to be.
Christ dude! ***I*** can do that. If I had the pres with me, I could tell him "OBL is STILL determined to attack us again."
How the F is that a warning of what is actually been planned? How does that tell the president anything he would need to stop an upcoming attack?
This will be the 6th unanswered question.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Dude, have you even ready the Aug 6th PDB? Let me make quotes,
"bin Laden was planning to exploit the operative's access to the U.S. to mount a terrorist strike."
"...indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York."
"...bin Laden supporters was in the U.S. planning attacks with explosives."
So how were we caught off guard?
UTManagement 2 years ago
of course I read it
1) "a terrorist strike?" lacks specificity.
2) Was the WTC a Federal building in New York?
3) What explosives were used in the 911 attacks? C4?
4) The PDB also indicates what the purpose of the hijacking was. What was that purpose?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Furthering my questions to you that you STILL have not answered, If the passport could be found at ground zero, then why not 4 black boxes made to withstand exactly the types of conditions presented on 9/11?
If paper seems to be the miracle material here, how could some of the strongest components on the airplane have simply vanished into thin air?
Again, please be mature when responding and leave out your ridiculous comments and insulting assumptions...have an intelligent conversation
sacdude20 2 years ago
The 4 black boxes HAS been answered, by me, 14 hours ago.
If youre not going to read the answers, dont ask the questions. And certainly dont whine about immaturity, when you havent the maturity to even attempt to read the questions.
Do you have any reference to say that the black boxes are made to exactly stand a 300k ton building being dropped on them?
ps, again, thats a QUESTION, Its not a quote.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
LMAO you're an idiot dude. Clearly you've got insecurities that run REALLY deep. This guy is trying to have an intelligent conversation with you and you can't even comprehend half of what hes saying lol.
Way to go fuck nut.
And the fact that you think the black boxes can't survive 300k tons but PAPER can proves you've got no business defending this topic, lol. At least he looks at both sides of the story lmao
Looks like you're the little liar!!! What a proud moment for you haha!
UTManagement 2 years ago
UTM--LOL, yeah, He had to call you in for back-up, and **IM** the insecure one. LOLOLOL.
Sorry, but mature conversations dont include his
1) false accusations of being misquoted
2) Lies that he cant support
3) lacking the courage to state what he believes
4) his refusal to answer any questions
5) and his twisting out.
BTW, the whole paper thing? He was schooled on that last night. He even admitted I was right on it.
Too bad you (unlike ME) dont look at both sides. Ud kno this.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
"they admitted to firing upon a US war ship "
Oh, Id love to see a credible link to that NSA admission please. =]
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
"So many other countries think it was a massive coverup as well "
Really? Wow! So remind me, how many countries have gone before the UN and demanded sanction against the US for its illegal invasions based on a false flag coverup?
50? 75? 100? How many?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Oh lord, are your childish remarks some sort of attempt to make you feel like you're smarter?
So are you going to continue to ignore the fact that the black boxes just seemed to vanish into thin air? After all, they are one of the strongest components of an aircraft specifically designed to withstand a crash (including flight 592 or psa 1771), but who even cares about that right?
Yes, paper must truly be the strongest material man ever created, lol
sacdude20 2 years ago
Lmao. youre the one who admitted WTC papers servived the fireball. dont crybaby out now, just because ur own words proved you wrong! lolol.
"So are you going to continue to ignore the fact that the black boxes just seemed to vanish into thin air? "
Except its really not a fact that they vanished into thin air. They were destroyed when a 300k ton building was dropped on them.
See you actually need to HAVE FACTS before asking someone to address the facts.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Once again, you're twisting words. I never said they demanded sanction...not once...not even that far.
I simply said most believe 9/11 was a coverup as an outsider looking in. Most countries DID think we were nuts when we wanted to invade originally (using evidence of WMD, yellow cake) which is why they didn't suppot us.
Anyway, its clear this entire topic gives you a rager, so I'll leave it be for the night. Maybe you'll learn to look at both sides of the coin and open your eyes one day
sacdude20 2 years ago
"Once again, you're twisting words."
Once again youre lying. I didnt twist any words. I NEVER once quoted you as saying anyone demanded sanctions.
You can throw out the meaningless guess that "so many other countries" believe the kookery.
Yet Not ONE country actually acts as though they believe it.
If the kookspiracy were true, and other countries knew it, theyd be screaming bloody murder about it.
Yet the silence is deafening. Explanation?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Lol
You have a huge problem with paranoia.
Go to see a doctor.
KimmoKuopio 2 years ago
"911 was an inside job its proven"
Really? USing words like facts, and evidence, but only providing anecdotes is not good enough. The media would love to uncover this stuff, but when they print every wacky accusation by the 'truth' movement they look foolish because it doesn't stand up..( excuse the pun).
SOAS007 2 years ago
Keep on keeping on. Great video. I have downloaded and will distribute.
SmallButLethal 2 years ago 2
Good stuff man, Keep up the good work.
911Infowarrior 2 years ago 4
jfk and 911 were done by the same group of criminals. if there is another investigation it will be another white wash. But I think that 911 was their biggest mistake, and it will ultimately be their undoing.
rogueweapon 2 years ago
That's what people who want a new investigation fail to see. Why would the party involved in the crime, fairly investigate themselves? All The stone walling in the congress and media should at least clue to complicity in the crime. We have now come of age as a nation. We look at the raw image of our government and see that it is incredibly lawless. Who has the power to prosecute congress, the executive branch and pentagon? WE THE PEOPLE need to do the investigation ourselves and find guilty.
crusty21 2 years ago 5
crusty21, now you're talking
mrmanly31 2 years ago 3
Thats what the kooks fail to see. They dont actually have any evidence that the investigation was done by a guilty party, since there is zero evidence of an inside job.
This would be like the idea of (God forbid, ur neghbor is murdered) there is overwhelming evidence and mutiple confessions, but you just say "I want to pretend the cops killed my neighbor! So I should be able to investigate it myself!"
The people DID investigate it, through their reps. Its a normal function of govt.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
The strongest evidence is before our eyes( if we want to see) that show puffs of smoke shooting out the window sides just like a controlled demolition. Tower seven looks like a textbook demolition. The hole in the pentagon looks like a mismatch and an impossible flying feat for noob pilot. I can go on and on but I know it would be a waste of time. You are just a denier of the obvious on some personal agenda. Your FOXian spins and PHD Quackery don't mean shit to me.
crusty21 2 years ago
If thats the strongest evidence you have, its no wonder people dont take you kooks seriously.
You talk about Texbook demolitions, with no education, training or experience in Demolitions. You talk about the "hole' not matching, yet have no experience investigating airline crashes, or building performance reporting. You talk about "impossible flying" with NO IDEA what the manuver was.
Youre like the idiots who, even today, still believe the Earth is flat. "I can just look at! and see"
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
So, tell me, rock Star,
1) exactly what textbook that teaches demolition charges never make a sound, and demolitions never leave behind moutains of evidence of det cords, shock tunes, et cetera?
2) Exactly how many airplanes ahve you see fly into steel re-enforced concrete? And by extension, what should then the hole look like.
3) What about the manuver, in ur mind, was soooo impossible? Compare the specifics to an autopilot turn and descent--what differences do you see?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
In the end, youre the perfect example of why no one takes the kook movement seriously. what is "obvious and right in front of us" is that youre completely unqualified to make the claims that you made.
youre like a man, blind since birth, listening to a baseball game on the radio and screaming "Hey Ump! He missed the tag!"
ONE of us is denying the obvious, in pursuit of a personal agenda (likely your own Walter Mitty Fantasy) But it aint me.
::shrugs::: Sorry! =]
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
I mean really, how could you not be suspicious of the story when they said they found one of the terrorist's IDs at ground zero? You're telling me a few sheets of paper survived that massive fireball? Really?
The Gov (like any other Gov out there) lies to its people now and again...for example, its proven the Gov knew foods with Trans Fats/MSG or Aspartame were bad for us, yet they turned a blind eye to it. For decades they allowed us to eat these foods without any warrning, why? MONEY!!!!!!
sacdude20 2 years ago
"You're telling me a few sheets of paper survived that massive fireball? Really?"
wow, REALLY? So you never even did a min of 20 seconds of research on this? REALLY?
rense*com/1*imagesH/Sthitsideev*jpg
So all that debris in that picture--thats all from the building huh? non of that falling stuff is part from the airplane? 100% of the airplane is still inside the building?
Really? you REALLY believe none of that debris could possibly from the airplane?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
cont--further, when you look at the papers and stuff blow out of the building in THAT pic. its pretty clear--after 5 secs of research--than tons of papers were blown out of the building.
Or, this pic--another 5 seconds this took me to find:
911myths*com/Flight_11_Seat_Cushion_Large*jpg
We see the street scattered with debris form the building--and an ac seat cushion--and yet much of the paper is basically undamaged.
So, you never thought for yourself, and researched this? Really?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
cont-2. Additionally, if you researched airline crashes, its pretty normal for various random personal effects from pax and crew to be found.
So, you REALLY never researched the fact that tons of paper debris provably survived the fireball? Or that personal items are often found after a crash?
You really are confused by something perfectly normal to anyone who did simple research?
Really?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
I love how make assumptions that I know nothing. First off, I'm quite sure I know more about commercial airline crashes than yourself.
Secondly, its interesting that you choose to believe that the black boxes never made it (and were supposedly never found either), yet all identification for other passengers/crew were destroyed? How do you justify that? And lets not forget that most of the paper on the streets was from the WTC offices
You can't take one fact and ignore all the others
sacdude20 2 years ago
"First off, I'm quite sure I know more about commercial airline crashes than yourself."
Regardless of how sure you are, its quite certain that you dont know a squirt of piss when it comes to commercial crashes. Because people who DO know dont ask stupid questions like "how could that survive the crash and fireball?" Because people who even minimally know wtf the yare talking about know random items effects suvive every fireball/crash. Even the high-speeds like psa 1771, or valjet 592.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
"most of the paper on the streets was from the WTC offices"
Thus CONFIRMING papers can be blown out of the building, and survive the fireball basically intact.
And NO, the passport wasnt the only things found. Ms Donna Snyder (I can pm anyone a link, if they want) received a letter, returned to her, that was carried as airmail on UA 175.
Lisa Frost--pax on UA 175, had her mileage plus card recovered.
Passport was the only item of import. But other items were found.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Yes, it is quite common that personal effects survive NORMAL plane crashes, but this was far from it. There were no investigators on scene to pick up the pieces of evidence right after and for the Gov to claim that they found this passport on the STREET yet no other passenger identification could be found is just insane. The probability of that is so low, its insulting the Gov thinks they can tell us that and get away with it...sadly, you've given them reason to think they can.
sacdude20 2 years ago
"but this was far from it."
It was far from normal to the extent of HOW the crash happened. To my knowledge a terrorist hijacking/CFIT has never happened to a commercial airliner before.
But in terms of the physics, a crash is a crash. If things commonly survive other crashes, its 100% expected and normal that they would survive this one.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Great call!
riderpridester 2 years ago 4