dude most of it is fiction. battle of chi bi was not won because kongming summoned a wind. And its too bad he had to waste all shu resources for the last few campaigns.
@TheAlkio Im not gonna let you ruin my mood jus because of something i posted 6 months ago. Assuming ur a dynasty warriors fanboy or troll take u can take ur argument to the scholars of shen zhou website. hav a nice day:)
@victorhng and your like one of those inchohorent pricks who always state that luo guozhang novel is fake, bla bla bla, "most of it fake"? Did you even read the book, it stated that the story is based on 75% true 25% fake.
shu reminds me of the arthurian legend.. Liu Bei ideal king.. King Arthur.. Merlin.. Zhuge Liang.. Liu Bei and his brotherhood.. Guan Yu Zhang Fei.. and his other generals... the round table of brotherhood... female betrayed the king... Guinever... Liu Bei's wife ran off with his son... hahaha.....cud it be across all that distance.. the europeans have watchin our chinese affair carefulli.. or maybe there are alot of aliens who kno soul transfer took over human body.. haha that cant be true
I will give a quick summary of the three kingdoms....
It started in 184 A.D. A man named Zhang Jiao cured the sick with false miracles and one day while he was walking he found a man who handed him an ancient text titled "The Way of Peace" and from there he formed a militia in order to do Heavens bidding he named himself heaven's and from this a high commander was called He Jin along with Huangfu Song and two others from this led the eunuchs assassinating He Jin......................
@hanjiyo Continued .....Dong Zhuo abdicating the eldest brother (Emperor) for the youngest, this leading to Ding Yuan opposing Dong Zhuo, Dong Zhuo buying off Lu Bu Ding Yuan's adopted son Lu Bu murdering Ding Yuan, Cao Cao plotting with Wang Yun to kill Dong Zhuo, but Lu Bu witnessed what was gonna happen so Cao Cao fled, Wang Yun using his adopted daughter to evolve a scheme to kill Dong Zhuo, This led to the coalition,Dong Zhuo Flees and burns Luo Yang, Sun Jian Finds Imperial Seal .........
@hanjiyo Continued ......Fakes sickness and tries to go to the Southland, Liu Biao attacking to recover the seal for Yuan Shao, Sun Jian and Liu Biao becoming enemies, Dong Zhuo Taking Diao Chan from Lu Bu, Lu Bu killing Dong Zhuo, Niu Jin and Li Jue to kidnap the Emperor Cao Cao to kill them,I will skip a lot because I dont wanna spam to much,but Sun Quan had the southland Liu Bei had the riverland Cao Cao had the Whole heartland most of everything else but eventually things turned and ......
@hanjiyo Sorry but another continued.......And the Jin Dynasty United China Because Liu Chan Submitted (Although he should have took his life for failing his father. Sun Xiu Submitted eventually failing his Father,Uncle and Grand Father. So neither Wu,Shu-Han or Wei united China in the end.
The writer of the novel 罗贯中 thought that Shu is the orginal royal family so he wrote that Shu was stronger and more powerful with a lot of powerful guys
Liu Chan you fat piece of shit, if you went to see Zhuge Liang he could of told you about the plans for the future,but you listened to your idiotic eunuchs.
The novel "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" is based on events in the Three Kingdoms period in China's history. Not everything is real in that book, but 75% of them are real.
not so sure. because there's also a novel like you said romance of the three kingdom or san guo yan yi. but people say it never happened before, and diao chan might never existed T.T
Zhuge Liang's inability to unite China does not make me feel any less respect for him at all. This is because we can still congratulate him on living the life of such an exceptional, unique and timeless legend.
If we look at this from purely the novel point of view, the message the author was trying to convey is that 1. being a workaholic is a bad thing that leads to poor health and 2. you can drastically effect the world even beyond death (significant in his willingness to leave his knowledge for future generations)
The empty throne scene might represent Zhuge Liang's longing for Liu Bei? That Liu Bei died so early and hence wasn't able to witness Zhuge Liang's achieving their ultimate goal (the dream sequence)
Thats definitely the first thing that came to mind when i saw that, although it was hard, cuz seeing Liang's happy face when the two emperors bowed to Liu Chan, to see his shocked and stricken face after seeing the empty throne...it broke my heart. Other ppl have mentioned that it was also symbolic of his dreams u fulfilled and also an omen of shu's destruction, and I think they also hit the nail on the head, but i think the primary meaning of the empty throne was liang missing Liu Bei.
I think that because it is true that Zhuge Liang was truely faithful and loyal because its in his character, but it was also because he truely loved Liu Bei. He literally was his best friend, and vice versa for Liu Bei. Liu Bei didn't swear an oath with him, but he still held him in the highest regard as a friend as well as a strategist. He wanted to fulfill his dream not only cuz it was his duty, but also because it was a close friend's last request. Liu bei...Liang did everything for Liu Bei.
wei yan is a traitor after zhuge liang death because the shu army odered to retreat but at last he was killed by ma dai.actually zhuge liang death is beacause lack of sleep,food
So really, was Wei Yan a good guy or bad guy to Shu? Did he mean to rebel or was he 'scapegoated' to be a traitor (in history and novel)? Someone please explain.
From my point of view he was scapegoated (in history), he was always at odds with Yang Yi and even somewhat with Zhuge, partley because of his agresivness. After Zhuges death Wei and Yang began to wrangle with each other and slandered each other to Liu Chan, his ministers were suspisious of Wei Yan more then Yang Yi and Wei and Yang ended up fighting each other in open conflict, Wei ended up being killed pursued by Ma Dai. Yang killed Wei's whole family in revenge.
Wei never really rebeled, it only seemed that way because of his fight with Yang Yi who was the one who declared Wei a rebel when he didnt. Even in the Novel Yang Yi was seen to be somewhat of a jealous nature as he himself was disasisified with his rank after Zhuge died and similar to the novel said words to the effect that if he submited to Wei he would have had more honors bestowed upon him. Thus yang was expelled and later imprisoned and later commited suicide.
Sorry I dont know the chinese character spelling (Im a Canadian Born Chinese). Yang Yi was the one who tried to releive Ma Su at Jieting but didnt make it in time, he is the man Zhuge talks to at 4:39
Oh man...I loved watching that dream scene, even though it was so sad... :'(. It shows what he had been fighting for all those years...but never succeeded...
after all it is a dream of Zhu Geliang -- defeat Wei and Wu...when he suddenly realise it is all a dream, a hope that may never come true ever since his life is coming to an end..
what a sadness...I cannot help crying everytime when I watch this scene.
Tang Guoqiang is a very good actor in this TV drama, and the dirctor are fantastic too.
I respect Zhu Geliang alot, for not only his wisdom, but also his loyalty, his personality, and much more...
What Zhuge Dream in his sleep is sure make me a little sad (almost drop their from my eyes a while). It realy touch me deep inside. Dream that was never come true....
It is true ShuHan was the weakest.Zhuge Liang knew the will heaven but went against it just like Chu Han contention's Fan Zeng going against the will of Heaven.
whenever i go visit china i want to see all the historical stuff of the three kingdom at least to see western and eastern south area
and really see some of zhuge liang place i´m here in Peru and they have a Coffee shop called Kong Ming lol with a feather fan next to it haha ironic lol
hahaha, When I read your message I said, what is this person talking about? now when I readi t myself lol ya it refresh my memory, I swear to god. It was one a Tour bus when we were on our way to the airport to take on a small plane and go to another city, I know that the Kong Ming Coffee is located at Lima Peru I think within the area where you see a lot of german looking houses
What does the oil lamp symbolize, if it burns on for a week, does it mean the troubles will be over?
ukno918 5 months ago
dude most of it is fiction. battle of chi bi was not won because kongming summoned a wind. And its too bad he had to waste all shu resources for the last few campaigns.
victorhng 7 months ago
@victorhng ur a dumb faggot nuff said
TheAlkio 1 month ago
@TheAlkio Im not gonna let you ruin my mood jus because of something i posted 6 months ago. Assuming ur a dynasty warriors fanboy or troll take u can take ur argument to the scholars of shen zhou website. hav a nice day:)
victorhng 1 month ago
@victorhng and your like one of those inchohorent pricks who always state that luo guozhang novel is fake, bla bla bla, "most of it fake"? Did you even read the book, it stated that the story is based on 75% true 25% fake.
TheAlkio 1 month ago
hehe, LIu Shan is fat.
tehhkrmn65 8 months ago
shu reminds me of the arthurian legend.. Liu Bei ideal king.. King Arthur.. Merlin.. Zhuge Liang.. Liu Bei and his brotherhood.. Guan Yu Zhang Fei.. and his other generals... the round table of brotherhood... female betrayed the king... Guinever... Liu Bei's wife ran off with his son... hahaha.....cud it be across all that distance.. the europeans have watchin our chinese affair carefulli.. or maybe there are alot of aliens who kno soul transfer took over human body.. haha that cant be true
shw1ft 1 year ago
I will give a quick summary of the three kingdoms....
It started in 184 A.D. A man named Zhang Jiao cured the sick with false miracles and one day while he was walking he found a man who handed him an ancient text titled "The Way of Peace" and from there he formed a militia in order to do Heavens bidding he named himself heaven's and from this a high commander was called He Jin along with Huangfu Song and two others from this led the eunuchs assassinating He Jin......................
hanjiyo 1 year ago
@hanjiyo Continued .....Dong Zhuo abdicating the eldest brother (Emperor) for the youngest, this leading to Ding Yuan opposing Dong Zhuo, Dong Zhuo buying off Lu Bu Ding Yuan's adopted son Lu Bu murdering Ding Yuan, Cao Cao plotting with Wang Yun to kill Dong Zhuo, but Lu Bu witnessed what was gonna happen so Cao Cao fled, Wang Yun using his adopted daughter to evolve a scheme to kill Dong Zhuo, This led to the coalition,Dong Zhuo Flees and burns Luo Yang, Sun Jian Finds Imperial Seal .........
hanjiyo 1 year ago
@hanjiyo Continued ......Fakes sickness and tries to go to the Southland, Liu Biao attacking to recover the seal for Yuan Shao, Sun Jian and Liu Biao becoming enemies, Dong Zhuo Taking Diao Chan from Lu Bu, Lu Bu killing Dong Zhuo, Niu Jin and Li Jue to kidnap the Emperor Cao Cao to kill them,I will skip a lot because I dont wanna spam to much,but Sun Quan had the southland Liu Bei had the riverland Cao Cao had the Whole heartland most of everything else but eventually things turned and ......
hanjiyo 1 year ago
@hanjiyo Sorry but another continued.......And the Jin Dynasty United China Because Liu Chan Submitted (Although he should have took his life for failing his father. Sun Xiu Submitted eventually failing his Father,Uncle and Grand Father. So neither Wu,Shu-Han or Wei united China in the end.
hanjiyo 1 year ago
@hanjiyo It was a good thing Liu Shan and Sun Hao surrendered
MasamuneAzure 1 year ago
"The Brightest Stars only burn half as long." Can't agree more.
CommunistSpartan 1 year ago 2
刘备一直以来都很重用诸葛亮.. 蜀败是因多种因故.. 关羽太急攻打北部的曹任, 调动大量士兵, 不防东吴, 导致丟了荆州, 是因太轻敌... 张飞之死是因他对属下太粗暴, 导致被他人所杀害... 刘备太急于报仇而不听诸葛亮劝告, 导致南征大败.... 刘关张就此没了... 诺不是诸葛亮, 刘备根本不知何去何从, 久于居人离下, 又哪来蜀汉江山??
UltimateCefiro 1 year ago
@UltimateCefiro
Well said.
20080808sgp 1 year ago
dang i wish i could bring him antibiotics or something.
Pikaqiu 1 year ago
make me want to cry, when zhuge liang still dreaming shu will restore united china...
carltonlau2006 1 year ago
刘禅就是个悲剧....
shuaigenikai 1 year ago
Shu got the best Warriors and cooler uniforms
but got the smallest army
yinny90 2 years ago 4
The writer of the novel 罗贯中 thought that Shu is the orginal royal family so he wrote that Shu was stronger and more powerful with a lot of powerful guys
why0918 2 years ago
it's only because of zhuge liang that shu survived so long, what a pity.
ElFlea0 2 years ago 5
Liu Chan you fat piece of shit, if you went to see Zhuge Liang he could of told you about the plans for the future,but you listened to your idiotic eunuchs.
Its a shame that he died...
MiTsuNari134 2 years ago 5
The first offenisve should of use the combination of Wu and shui rather than just shui alone
chunlong13 2 years ago
was this a real story which had happened in china's history? or is it all fiction
aloozer 2 years ago
It happened in China's history. :)
The novel "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" is based on events in the Three Kingdoms period in China's history. Not everything is real in that book, but 75% of them are real.
Titan9999 2 years ago 10
not so sure. because there's also a novel like you said romance of the three kingdom or san guo yan yi. but people say it never happened before, and diao chan might never existed T.T
PotterSuccess 2 years ago
some true, some fiction. most of characters really existed, but many events are fictional
seannyslow 2 years ago
@aloozer yeah. It is a true story in Chinese history, and Zhuge Liang was(is) the wisest military commander of all times.
christmascnn 1 year ago
还是很感人的阿
fangf 2 years ago 3
毫无疑问,我们曾经是强大的民族.河山壮阔,英雄辈出.出国后才越发对自己的国家了解更多.
hero9992000 2 years ago
Zhuge Liang's inability to unite China does not make me feel any less respect for him at all. This is because we can still congratulate him on living the life of such an exceptional, unique and timeless legend.
jaerirob644 2 years ago
i read a book and it says
that when zhuge liang is answering question, he dead.
2auhsoj2 2 years ago
I believe they changed it in this show for more dramatic effect.
NeoDragonKnight 2 years ago
when a man honorable, great, and smart as Zhuge Liang dies...even the enemy pays tribute...thats when you know you lived a life of worthy.
google2com 3 years ago 33
Spot on
I totally agree
jaerirob644 3 years ago
The enemies were on their knees when Jiang Wei died too.
ZastinHuynh93 3 years ago
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fourseasonbean 4 months ago
鞠躬尽瘁，死而后已
I could die in content only after I've spared no energy in the performance of my duties
qxz246 3 years ago
If we look at this from purely the novel point of view, the message the author was trying to convey is that 1. being a workaholic is a bad thing that leads to poor health and 2. you can drastically effect the world even beyond death (significant in his willingness to leave his knowledge for future generations)
Aixrotciv 3 years ago
OMFG
i cannot express my anger to Liu Bei's son
Because of that stupid son of ***** some of the best generals died.
If it wasnt for him Shu woulda won
Stupid assh0le!!!!
wingedseeker 3 years ago 3
Prime Minister
cypcian 3 years ago
this part so touchy.. zhuge liang is dreaming about Liu family can reunited china again...
carltonlau2006 3 years ago 4
what dose the empty throne scene imply?
CountDraculer 3 years ago 3
The empty throne scene might represent Zhuge Liang's longing for Liu Bei? That Liu Bei died so early and hence wasn't able to witness Zhuge Liang's achieving their ultimate goal (the dream sequence)
I think that's it but I'm only guessing, sorry =/
jaerirob644 3 years ago 7
No, Zhuge Liang wasn't able to achieve his goal of reuniting the country, so sadly it's only a dream.
Titan9999 3 years ago
@Titan9999 Doesn't matter. Someone would finally reunit China, because people never allow China stay in separate. United China = The end of the war.
rpz1985 1 year ago
@Titan9999 due to many problems. :( like fate doenst let him do this
cjandgunner35 1 year ago
Thats definitely the first thing that came to mind when i saw that, although it was hard, cuz seeing Liang's happy face when the two emperors bowed to Liu Chan, to see his shocked and stricken face after seeing the empty throne...it broke my heart. Other ppl have mentioned that it was also symbolic of his dreams u fulfilled and also an omen of shu's destruction, and I think they also hit the nail on the head, but i think the primary meaning of the empty throne was liang missing Liu Bei.
elzombito5678 3 years ago 5
I think that because it is true that Zhuge Liang was truely faithful and loyal because its in his character, but it was also because he truely loved Liu Bei. He literally was his best friend, and vice versa for Liu Bei. Liu Bei didn't swear an oath with him, but he still held him in the highest regard as a friend as well as a strategist. He wanted to fulfill his dream not only cuz it was his duty, but also because it was a close friend's last request. Liu bei...Liang did everything for Liu Bei.
elzombito5678 3 years ago 3
wei yan is a traitor after zhuge liang death because the shu army odered to retreat but at last he was killed by ma dai.actually zhuge liang death is beacause lack of sleep,food
kelvinteh12345678 3 years ago
This is the saddest part
chunlong13 3 years ago
So really, was Wei Yan a good guy or bad guy to Shu? Did he mean to rebel or was he 'scapegoated' to be a traitor (in history and novel)? Someone please explain.
EdgeworthsBox 3 years ago
He was just a victm of a political conflict. I think
fayshia 3 years ago
From my point of view he was scapegoated (in history), he was always at odds with Yang Yi and even somewhat with Zhuge, partley because of his agresivness. After Zhuges death Wei and Yang began to wrangle with each other and slandered each other to Liu Chan, his ministers were suspisious of Wei Yan more then Yang Yi and Wei and Yang ended up fighting each other in open conflict, Wei ended up being killed pursued by Ma Dai. Yang killed Wei's whole family in revenge.
NeoDragonKnight 2 years ago
Wei never really rebeled, it only seemed that way because of his fight with Yang Yi who was the one who declared Wei a rebel when he didnt. Even in the Novel Yang Yi was seen to be somewhat of a jealous nature as he himself was disasisified with his rank after Zhuge died and similar to the novel said words to the effect that if he submited to Wei he would have had more honors bestowed upon him. Thus yang was expelled and later imprisoned and later commited suicide.
NeoDragonKnight 2 years ago 2
can u clarify who's yang yi maybe i'll recognise him if u typed it in chinese but i can't figure out who when u type english
SOLAR718 2 years ago
Sorry I dont know the chinese character spelling (Im a Canadian Born Chinese). Yang Yi was the one who tried to releive Ma Su at Jieting but didnt make it in time, he is the man Zhuge talks to at 4:39
NeoDragonKnight 2 years ago
@NeoDragonKnight yes, you're right.
rpz1985 1 year ago
so sad that zhuge liang died
Itachi429 3 years ago
Oh man...I loved watching that dream scene, even though it was so sad... :'(. It shows what he had been fighting for all those years...but never succeeded...
serpentdoness 3 years ago
I feel so sad when i look it,look Zhuge Liang died,he is a good man,a clever man!!
huxiaoran1994 3 years ago 2
who do you think is superior, liu bei - cao cao - sun quan?
lilbro987 3 years ago
sun quan
zerobeat02 3 years ago
You mean in the Novel or in real history?
InvisibleAce 3 years ago
after all it is a dream of Zhu Geliang -- defeat Wei and Wu...when he suddenly realise it is all a dream, a hope that may never come true ever since his life is coming to an end..
what a sadness...I cannot help crying everytime when I watch this scene.
Tang Guoqiang is a very good actor in this TV drama, and the dirctor are fantastic too.
I respect Zhu Geliang alot, for not only his wisdom, but also his loyalty, his personality, and much more...
qaz2004 3 years ago
i think this is why people say life is too short
yellowflash619 3 years ago
the song is very nice ! i wish i could download it!!!!
yellowflash619 3 years ago
You can probably find it. It's called WoLongYin.
InvisibleAce 3 years ago
I think ZHou Yu will be like man of the movie in the red cliff movie :P
yellowflash619 3 years ago
i wish sima yi is helping the shu army
yellowflash619 3 years ago
whos the actor that plays zhugeliang?
shady110 3 years ago
Tang Guoqiang. The best portrait of Zhuge Liang ever. I can't expect anybody better than him.
vacinus 3 years ago 12
thats wat i said too
i dont think the zhugeliang in upcoming john woos movie will be that imprisive
shady110 3 years ago
yeh that guy who plays zhuge liang in john woo's red cliff is pretty shit i thought.
i simply think that he doesn't intelligent enough to portray zhuge liang
jaerirob644 3 years ago
i agree with you too. he is sucker
mybox65 3 years ago
Because of zhuge liang , Shu exist!
yellowflash619 3 years ago
I also love Sima Yi since he is genius too.
Genius Zhuge Liang and genius Sima Yi, it was such a good battle. Zhuge Liang's proverb 澹泊明志 is always in my heart.
mirie1 3 years ago 2
His dream....this was when I cried. How sad Zhuge Liang could not accomplish his wish.... Sometimes the heaven let such a good person to die....
mirie1 3 years ago 2
too bad he died b/c he worked too much. he fought too many smart guys at once
craziness0059 3 years ago
He 's in my heart in all time.
koko2551 3 years ago
Zhuge Liang wouldnt have died if he didnt go thru the Southern Campaign ( fought Meng Ho) bc he aged and lost a lot of his health after that campaign
Freewilddragon 4 years ago
this movie make me sad look at him he can't write anymore and walking need someone to help him poor zhuge but he keep thinking of the future
k1ll312vo1d 4 years ago
what dose the empty throne room scene mean ive always wondered
CountDraculer 4 years ago
hes thinking about the future and sees that shu is destroyed
mook1995 4 years ago 4
cool ty
CountDraculer 4 years ago
he could also be thinking on did he went to the wrong master or not.
CunardProductions94 3 years ago
That was a nice addition.
At least, I think it was an addition...the book doesn't have anything like that, right? Memory fails me.
ResidentOgden730 3 years ago
Hee Hee Hee , hmnn . Serve my country loyally ! Ha Ha Ha ! Chinese proverb : Without capable men , GU ZHANG NAN MING !!!!!
xiuqin24 4 years ago
Zhuge liang - May he be known as a man without equal
d4nnypk 4 years ago
Poor Zhuge Liang, even in death he thinks only of service to his liege and land. Truly, he was a man of the ages.
Revolution177 4 years ago 26
What Zhuge Dream in his sleep is sure make me a little sad (almost drop their from my eyes a while). It realy touch me deep inside. Dream that was never come true....
lupus1995 4 years ago 5
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Sima Yi was always the superior of the two and deserved to win as his strategies were always the best...
Gorgutz1 4 years ago
your mom deserve the land, bitch!
PsychoSuo9000 4 years ago
how can you say that sima yi was terrified zhuge liang over half the time he was preoccupied with avoiding confrontations with him!
CountDraculer 4 years ago
Sun Quan and Cao Rui bowing to the corrupt Liu Chan..
COOL!
xxsimayixx 4 years ago 3
does someone know whcih disease cased Zhuge Liang's death?
SuperStarTidus18 4 years ago
sima yi said this to zhuge liang before:" he eat little but work many, how can he stand for long?"
well my english bad lol
aikakakakaka 4 years ago
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i think he's dead coz of brain tumor
aikakakakaka 4 years ago
I've heard it's TB
Brain Tumor? wtf....
jaerirob644 3 years ago
after liu chan became king of shu that was shu's weakest points because he surrounded himself with bad advisors and what not
Kingk00pa281 4 years ago
I wish to learn the books Zhugeliang wrote lol
deadpeng 4 years ago 2
shu were the weakest
ownedurmum1123 4 years ago
It is true ShuHan was the weakest.Zhuge Liang knew the will heaven but went against it just like Chu Han contention's Fan Zeng going against the will of Heaven.
xxsimayixx 4 years ago
You mean Fan Zeng as in Xiang Yu's advisor?
Jaber1891 3 years ago
quote "That was a dream I believe. lol haha. Such a tragedy for Zhuge Liang to die without realizing his dream. " it wasn't a dream.
JiangZhiYa 4 years ago
That was a dream I believe. lol haha. Such a tragedy for Zhuge Liang to die without realizing his dream.
Midair 4 years ago 2
sun quan and cao rui (?) bowing to liu chan...cool! >:)
jzdman 5 years ago 2
whenever i go visit china i want to see all the historical stuff of the three kingdom at least to see western and eastern south area
and really see some of zhuge liang place i´m here in Peru and they have a Coffee shop called Kong Ming lol with a feather fan next to it haha ironic lol
Pogokoala 5 years ago
Omg really?! That's so cool! I want to go to that coffee shop now! :D
serpentdoness 3 years ago 3
hahaha, When I read your message I said, what is this person talking about? now when I readi t myself lol ya it refresh my memory, I swear to god. It was one a Tour bus when we were on our way to the airport to take on a small plane and go to another city, I know that the Kong Ming Coffee is located at Lima Peru I think within the area where you see a lot of german looking houses
Pogokoala 3 years ago
OH HO HO. I AM SO GOING THERE.
serpentdoness 3 years ago