@crazy4corbinbleux lol yea. 4'11'' I think. I remember my mom telling me that her music people, would always make her wear heels and such because she was so small.
God for the life of me I cannot handle MJ's sexiness during this era. He was just perfect. Everything about him sparkled. He was model beautiful. Maybe he could have made it work with Stephanie, but who knows what went on with that. Obviously it didn't work out. I wish he had found a woman who was right for him. I think he was looking for someone who didn't exist. MJ wanted perfection in everything, and I think he had a hard time accepting that fact that there was no perfect woman.
@Aariyan096 Sure. He was a self-proclaimed perfectionist, and for the longest time he was able to draw inspiration from a rare, if not ethereal source and interpret the abstract findings almost flawlessly through his performance. I've never seen a live performer like Michael Jackson. When people say he mesmerizes, it's not an exaggeration. He was the best at what he did. He stood above both his peers and idols, but something fatally crippled him and I believe it was his belief in perfectionism.
@jacksparrow14 Basically! lol. The media turned everybody against him.....starting w/ black people. They said he didnt date black girls, he didnt like his dark skin complexion, etc. He like/dated/loved Diana Ross, Stephanie Mills, Romonica Harris, & Shana Mangatal (Black women).
@jacksparrow14 I have Good News! The Blood of Jesus has the FINAL WIN! Daeth and evil is defeated becaise our Jesus! Don't let the LOOKS of whats going on fool you. Jesus is coming back to get His people, the signs are everywhere.
@geezusmylove Michael himself is the one that turned black people away from him. Starting from when he first began to look caucasian with his facial changes even before the lightening started.
Thank you DoTheRightThing1958 for sharing this delightful footage of our beloved Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson receiving the Boy Scouts Award! Michael overflowed in brilliance. He looked exquisite! Ms. Stephanie Mills looked lovely. Our beloved Michael had the right to love whoever he wanted. If you really want the best loving mate in your life you select a person who has the ability to love you unconditionally, forgive you moment by moment, has outstanding character and values.
Attention everyone please get this group shut down they are spreading lies and promoting tabloid junk. The group is called Michael Jackson Ladies in his Life Facebook Group
my gawd! I would have climbed over those photographers and jumped Michael! I mean, um, I would have stood on the side and just watched. yeah! -shifty eyes-
OMGosh! If that were me and I met Michael Jackson during the Bad Era ANYWHERE!! I would not be responsible for what could happen next...I would have just lost my eva lovin' MIND!! <3<3<3
@ilovemusicalot07 Stephanie actually dated Michael in 1977 which was late disco era.. during the Wiz. ..her broadway show and his filming of the movie version of the Wiz. ..by this time, during the Bad era..they were not dating , but were still friends and very fond of each other. I don't know what happened betwen them, but I would have NEVER let him go...
Hmm....I wonder what all the "oohs" and "aahs" are for, the beauty of the award or the GORGEOUSNESS of my Michael? I think we all know the answer to that one. My Michael of course! I'm crazy about my boo's fashion sense. Aww, look at cute, tiny little Stephanie. She's adorable. They look cute together. I love my Michael SO much. See you soon baby....
@MrsMJJForever1 hahah i know! they're all "ooh"ing and stuff im like uhh he is a person, not a statue. although his face WAS a beautiful work of art(:
@MrsJacksonIfUNasty01 ...I KNOW YOU RIGHT! That's why he made he film of"In the Closet" ...Mike was saying.."Ya'll think I am gay and in the closet....but I'm gonna show you what's really in my closet!!!" lmbo!
Michael and Stephanie made the cutest couple. He should have married her instead of the other women he married. He needed a real woman to take care of him. Plus she really loves him. She never talked bad about him. They would have had cute kids. With his sexy self.
you are totally right.. the media only showed michael with woman he really didn't date, like madonna, but never with miss mills. they were cute together, and if they showed michael more with his women (hehe, michael was a playa) then the public would see how normal he was
@musiclover77able I can relate to you on that. Im neither skinny nor fat (in my opinion) , but my grandmother (she's white) would always be the one pointing out how big of a butt I have and How I need to lose some weight. If it were to be my father's grandmother (she's black), it would have been the total opposite. -probably ask for a few tips on how to get a body shaped like that. I don't understand . It just doesn't make any sense .
@musiclover77able so wouldn't that meant he liked thick girls ? I thought having thick legs meant that your considered to be "thick" . Sadly, that's how guys differentiate girls from the "thick" and the "slim" over here .
@BeautyIsHer I saw it too; the show went off five minutes ago. I wish her interview was a little longer. I've always liked Stephanie; she always seemed real to me. Loved what she said about Michael. Can't believe she washed his clothes!! I guess both of them really kept their private lives private.
DId you notice how she hesitated when Mo asked her which artist she listens to? I don't thinks today's singers impress her that much; hell, they don't impress me either.
Thats why it pays big time to not speculate but investigate ,find out the truth about a matter MJ says he is all about the truth and if you really want to know something just look for it and you'll find the truth of a matter!!!
@50gmama Omg! please say that again! People swear up and down he didn't like black women and was ashamed of his race!!!!!! They can kick rocks! LOL! Haterzzzzz
Seeing them together again here, knowing what they had been up to when they were kids, my imagination soars with possibilities of what might have been!!! I've always admired Stephanie's beautiful voice, and had no idea about her and Michael until after his death, but they look so good together! She's so tiny! And only a classy lady could pull off a skirt so short!!!
@theboyismine1 me too. i only know this after his death. he still wrapped one arm around her though. that's a acknowledgement of their past together. he was all smiles...
Why Michael...Why????? He should have stayed with Stephanie-OMG That would have been fantastic. I believe that if Michael would have had someone with him that loved him, truly loved him the way that only a woman can (not mom/son love) he would still be alive today and besides they were sooo Beautiful together. Their children would have been phenomenal.Things would have been great! OMG WHY????????? ; (
I wish he would've stayed with stephanie I believe everything she said about him being a great kisser and the other thing lol:) MIKE WAS VERY MUCH A MAN!!. I believe micheal was shy but behind close doors I think some of that shyness went out the windows lol. RIP KING OF POP
I love his sense of humor, that he hands the award to Stephanie knowing she can't hold it. That award is half her size. She's 4'11". It's also nice to see that even though it had been 12 years since they dated, they were still friends and still very comfortable with each other. She looks exquisite. Always does and always has. Thanks for uploading this clip. I didn't know it existed although I've seen the photos of this shoot, never saw video of it.
Lool For Real? She Looks Tiny But I'd Never Have Thought 4'11 She's Like A Mouse Next To Mike, Don't You Just Love The Way He Had His Arm Round Her For A While?, The Little Things That He Did. = ]
im just happy he even dated sumone with my name ;) haha shes shorter than be so i wudnt be that bad next to him im only like 5'1 haha not even i think im 5'0 :)
If mike would have gotton back with stephanie i think his life would have taken a different path. I believe she would have had his babies shoot I would have had his babies if he wanted little chocolate dumblings.
@kymkatt33 - my goodness. If you think about it being MJ's wife or girlfriend or whatever will be like living in a fish bowl. That's a very special person with a high-level of constitution.
I think Stephanie was being sarcastic when she made that comment about being too dark. Since Michael never openly dated any other black women, that's why she said it. Stephanie just doesn't seem like the type to lack self confidence.
I'm torn between Tatiana and Stephanie Mills for Michael. I think either one would have been perfect for him.
truth8809 2 months ago
SHE'S SOO SHORT!!
crazy4corbinbleux 8 months ago
@crazy4corbinbleux lol yea. 4'11'' I think. I remember my mom telling me that her music people, would always make her wear heels and such because she was so small.
Karamel2233 2 months ago in playlist Stephanie Mills
Michael & Stephanie reunited. That's good. Thanx for the clip.
Aariyan096 9 months ago
she's so tiny next to him lol
MissA1485 9 months ago
God for the life of me I cannot handle MJ's sexiness during this era. He was just perfect. Everything about him sparkled. He was model beautiful. Maybe he could have made it work with Stephanie, but who knows what went on with that. Obviously it didn't work out. I wish he had found a woman who was right for him. I think he was looking for someone who didn't exist. MJ wanted perfection in everything, and I think he had a hard time accepting that fact that there was no perfect woman.
Darslow 9 months ago
@Darslow That's a possibility. But he knew he wasn't perfect either, so do you think he second guessed himself too much? That was one of my theories.
Aariyan096 9 months ago
@Aariyan096 I certainly think that later on in his career he worried too much about being relevant.
Darslow 9 months ago
@Darslow Do you mean about him being too perfect?
Aariyan096 9 months ago
@Aariyan096 Sure. He was a self-proclaimed perfectionist, and for the longest time he was able to draw inspiration from a rare, if not ethereal source and interpret the abstract findings almost flawlessly through his performance. I've never seen a live performer like Michael Jackson. When people say he mesmerizes, it's not an exaggeration. He was the best at what he did. He stood above both his peers and idols, but something fatally crippled him and I believe it was his belief in perfectionism.
Darslow 9 months ago
@Darslow Oh, I see your point.
Aariyan096 9 months ago
Haha, shes like four foot two xD
maniilovex3 10 months ago
God damn mj is hot ,,, i would have his BABIES IN A NEW YORK MINUTE ..
iwantMJ1 1 year ago 3
he did acknowledge their past together, he kissed her and put his arms around her.
jacksparrow14 1 year ago 2
Michael is more interested in Stephanie than the award handed to him.
he seem want to dispose the award. hahahaha like get this off infront of me. people cant see the girl im with.
jacksparrow14 1 year ago 5
@jacksparrow14 i know right! who says he didn't like/date black girls?
geezusmylove 8 months ago 2
@geezusmylove
damn the love of his life is Diana Ross
jacksparrow14 8 months ago
@jacksparrow14 Basically! lol. The media turned everybody against him.....starting w/ black people. They said he didnt date black girls, he didnt like his dark skin complexion, etc. He like/dated/loved Diana Ross, Stephanie Mills, Romonica Harris, & Shana Mangatal (Black women).
geezusmylove 8 months ago 2
@geezusmylove
yes that's so true. media tried to put a good man down. they always do.
jacksparrow14 8 months ago
@jacksparrow14 America only build up heros only to tear them down!
geezusmylove 8 months ago
@geezusmylove
most of America is Illuminati.
those are the things devil worshipers do. bring down good people. so evil always wins.
jacksparrow14 8 months ago
@jacksparrow14 I have Good News! The Blood of Jesus has the FINAL WIN! Daeth and evil is defeated becaise our Jesus! Don't let the LOOKS of whats going on fool you. Jesus is coming back to get His people, the signs are everywhere.
geezusmylove 8 months ago
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@geezusmylove Michael himself is the one that turned black people away from him. Starting from when he first began to look caucasian with his facial changes even before the lightening started.
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elizaakababyd 4 months ago
OMG! He couldnt stop looking at her! He's cheesing and its all in his grill!
geezusmylove 1 year ago 3
Aw he put his arm around her after he kissed her...I think they looked nice together. Too bad it didnt work out
Ladymodel 1 year ago 3
@Ladymodel I agree!
geezusmylove 1 year ago
the girl is very small but shes very lucky
lhejein 1 year ago
aww :(
lhejein 1 year ago
Thank you DoTheRightThing1958 for sharing this delightful footage of our beloved Mr. Michael Joseph Jackson receiving the Boy Scouts Award! Michael overflowed in brilliance. He looked exquisite! Ms. Stephanie Mills looked lovely. Our beloved Michael had the right to love whoever he wanted. If you really want the best loving mate in your life you select a person who has the ability to love you unconditionally, forgive you moment by moment, has outstanding character and values.
SuperCHERISHED 1 year ago
Attention everyone please get this group shut down they are spreading lies and promoting tabloid junk. The group is called Michael Jackson Ladies in his Life Facebook Group
msbreezy1011 1 year ago
0:42 replay! so cute! bless them! xxx
sashathepanda 1 year ago
my gawd! I would have climbed over those photographers and jumped Michael! I mean, um, I would have stood on the side and just watched. yeah! -shifty eyes-
sashathepanda 1 year ago
Stephanie and Michael look real cute together!! Stephanie seems like she is a real sweetheart!!
megzwelch 1 year ago
@0:43 Awwww how sweet
dowdymia 1 year ago
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elizaakababyd 1 year ago
Aww.. they look so hot together
MrsMJLoveAlways 1 year ago
Michael and Stephanie should've stayed together! They make an adorable couple.
cupcake101 1 year ago
stephanie mills is waz his ex girlfriend
leoshiajr 1 year ago
stephanie is like really short
dejai12345 1 year ago
OMGosh! If that were me and I met Michael Jackson during the Bad Era ANYWHERE!! I would not be responsible for what could happen next...I would have just lost my eva lovin' MIND!! <3<3<3
rockdiva888 1 year ago
@rockdiva888 she already knew him,heck!!SHE DATED HIM IN HIS DISCO ERA!!!
ilovemusicalot07 1 year ago
@ilovemusicalot07 Stephanie actually dated Michael in 1977 which was late disco era.. during the Wiz. ..her broadway show and his filming of the movie version of the Wiz. ..by this time, during the Bad era..they were not dating , but were still friends and very fond of each other. I don't know what happened betwen them, but I would have NEVER let him go...
rockdiva888 1 year ago
Hmm....I wonder what all the "oohs" and "aahs" are for, the beauty of the award or the GORGEOUSNESS of my Michael? I think we all know the answer to that one. My Michael of course! I'm crazy about my boo's fashion sense. Aww, look at cute, tiny little Stephanie. She's adorable. They look cute together. I love my Michael SO much. See you soon baby....
MrsMJJForever1 1 year ago
@MrsMJJForever1 hahah i know! they're all "ooh"ing and stuff im like uhh he is a person, not a statue. although his face WAS a beautiful work of art(:
beyoncefreak7 1 year ago 3
bad era was his best
DRisLegend200919 1 year ago
lol his ex girlfriend! haha
ashleyfla 1 year ago
I cant belive shes only 4'11 :0
JordinSparksFan08 1 year ago 2
The would have made a cute couple!! Michael looked really hot here wow
LeeshLove 1 year ago 7
Que Sexy ,Hot
CrisClaire2 1 year ago 3
Is that Stephanie Mills? And if so, what is she doing there?
Princess11311 1 year ago
They made love.
kikilynnj 1 year ago 3
@kikilynnj Lmfaooo! Were you watching or something? hahaha
JordinSparksFan08 1 year ago
HAHA Mikey was a playa for real. He had girls left and right. You can't tell me that ain't Joe Jackson's son. LOL I love ya baby.
MrsJacksonIfUNasty01 1 year ago 8
@MrsJacksonIfUNasty01 ...I KNOW YOU RIGHT! That's why he made he film of"In the Closet" ...Mike was saying.."Ya'll think I am gay and in the closet....but I'm gonna show you what's really in my closet!!!" lmbo!
rockdiva888 1 year ago 3
@rockdiva888 LOL
MrsJacksonIfUNasty01 1 year ago
@MrsJacksonIfUNasty01 Yes, I say the same thing.
rocknroll773 1 year ago
Michael and Stephanie made the cutest couple. He should have married her instead of the other women he married. He needed a real woman to take care of him. Plus she really loves him. She never talked bad about him. They would have had cute kids. With his sexy self.
MrsJacksonIfUNasty01 1 year ago 6
you are totally right.. the media only showed michael with woman he really didn't date, like madonna, but never with miss mills. they were cute together, and if they showed michael more with his women (hehe, michael was a playa) then the public would see how normal he was
mapelleaff 1 year ago 6
Rumor has it that these 2 dated???....anyway...great clip!!!
bubblex4 1 year ago 4
@bubblex4 They did lol
mjluvx 1 year ago
@bubblex4 Yeah, they did. When he was filming the Wiz. Stephanie still gushes about him, it's cute.
nsam 1 year ago 3
bad michael jackson was the best =]
5p33dk1nG 2 years ago 3
omg it is stephanie mills. omg MJ is gooorgeous!!!
THR336TALIA 2 years ago 3
BAD era suit!!! and a BAD era MICHAEL JACKSON!!! WooooHOOOOO!!!!
nicohoot2007 2 years ago 3
WHY cant i get a guy like micheal???
iwantMJ1 2 years ago 30
thats the question i ask myself every single day!!
xXxJECKOxXx 2 years ago 7
He is the one and only nothing can surpass and equal him,that's the answer. :)
nicohoot2007 2 years ago 4
WOW!!! mIchael looked beautIFUL here .
1. His Body was in Perfect SHaped.
2. His hair was Longer .
3. ANd That smile is just Breath takinq
sexy BAd era Oh-lala .
SiisiiLovESMJ 2 years ago 14
@musiclover77able I can relate to you on that. Im neither skinny nor fat (in my opinion) , but my grandmother (she's white) would always be the one pointing out how big of a butt I have and How I need to lose some weight. If it were to be my father's grandmother (she's black), it would have been the total opposite. -probably ask for a few tips on how to get a body shaped like that. I don't understand . It just doesn't make any sense .
k0deredd 2 years ago
@musiclover77able I agree. I wouldn't want to be skinny either. I don't have nothing against skinny people though (:
k0deredd 2 years ago
@musiclover77able so wouldn't that meant he liked thick girls ? I thought having thick legs meant that your considered to be "thick" . Sadly, that's how guys differentiate girls from the "thick" and the "slim" over here .
k0deredd 2 years ago
I never said that. I said he never openly dated any other black women. I know he was seeing sistas behind the scenes.
miarjay 2 years ago 8
Let's make it right for Mike. mjtruthnow com
angelmjhere 2 years ago
Michael! Hey Michael, you´re the greatest!!!
So true, MJ is the greatest artist of all Times!
I love you Michael!!!
mjgoonmusic 2 years ago 2
Awh I saw her on Monique's show and she was talking about Michael, they would have been cute.
hhhh672 2 years ago 3
Aww, Steph is so tiny next to Michael;-)
They should have married. They would have made some cute babies!
Ladysugarshaft 2 years ago 14
Yeah cute babies, with awesome voices like their parents, lol!!!
Jerzee529 2 years ago 9
@Ladysugarshaft I agree but there might have been a slight problem she so short lol.
do123able 2 years ago
I just saw her on the Monique show talking about him.Lucky girl :)
BeautyIsHer 2 years ago 3
@BeautyIsHer I saw it too; the show went off five minutes ago. I wish her interview was a little longer. I've always liked Stephanie; she always seemed real to me. Loved what she said about Michael. Can't believe she washed his clothes!! I guess both of them really kept their private lives private.
DId you notice how she hesitated when Mo asked her which artist she listens to? I don't thinks today's singers impress her that much; hell, they don't impress me either.
EbonyLioness 2 years ago 5
He should have stayed with her, they make an adorable couple!!!!!!!
Jerzee529 2 years ago 3
Thats why it pays big time to not speculate but investigate ,find out the truth about a matter MJ says he is all about the truth and if you really want to know something just look for it and you'll find the truth of a matter!!!
50gmama 2 years ago
This is for all those haters who never saw MJ sporting and being charmingly seen w a sister with class celeberty style ya no bro!!!
50gmama 2 years ago 6
@50gmama Omg! please say that again! People swear up and down he didn't like black women and was ashamed of his race!!!!!! They can kick rocks! LOL! Haterzzzzz
geezusmylove 8 months ago 5
michael and stephanie would have been so cute together!!!!!!
we could have called them mephanie.haha.
that sounds silly but.......
thevidoechater 2 years ago 31
Seeing them together again here, knowing what they had been up to when they were kids, my imagination soars with possibilities of what might have been!!! I've always admired Stephanie's beautiful voice, and had no idea about her and Michael until after his death, but they look so good together! She's so tiny! And only a classy lady could pull off a skirt so short!!!
theboyismine1 2 years ago 18
@theboyismine1 me too. i only know this after his death. he still wrapped one arm around her though. that's a acknowledgement of their past together. he was all smiles...
MultiMm2009 2 years ago 7
lol, well if the trophy really was that heavy, then Michael must have been a hella strong to hold it with one hand!! :P xx
sexiilexii93x 2 years ago 8
she is 1 lucky biotch
wagwan86 2 years ago 4
Just wondering, was the trophy really that heavy? or was she just kidding?
Karamel2233 2 years ago
Noooooo.....this vid makes me kinda sad...all the potential, all of the possibilities,all of the beauty....
Karamel2233 2 years ago 5
Why Michael...Why????? He should have stayed with Stephanie-OMG That would have been fantastic. I believe that if Michael would have had someone with him that loved him, truly loved him the way that only a woman can (not mom/son love) he would still be alive today and besides they were sooo Beautiful together. Their children would have been phenomenal.Things would have been great! OMG WHY????????? ; (
Karamel2233 2 years ago 16
I wish he would've stayed with stephanie I believe everything she said about him being a great kisser and the other thing lol:) MIKE WAS VERY MUCH A MAN!!. I believe micheal was shy but behind close doors I think some of that shyness went out the windows lol. RIP KING OF POP
27andkickinit 2 years ago 8
It's nice that MIchael could be friends with his ex-girlfriend, Stephanie Mills
Ladymodel 2 years ago 9
Hmm It Looks Like Michael Enjoyed That Little Peck =D He Was The One That Reached For The Kiss First Hehe Bless Him! x
LdotAngel77 2 years ago 8
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she looks a little like rebbie!
justincucu 2 years ago
michael is too cute
7fire7ice7 2 years ago 7
I love his sense of humor, that he hands the award to Stephanie knowing she can't hold it. That award is half her size. She's 4'11". It's also nice to see that even though it had been 12 years since they dated, they were still friends and still very comfortable with each other. She looks exquisite. Always does and always has. Thanks for uploading this clip. I didn't know it existed although I've seen the photos of this shoot, never saw video of it.
boirlesnow 2 years ago 9
Lool For Real? She Looks Tiny But I'd Never Have Thought 4'11 She's Like A Mouse Next To Mike, Don't You Just Love The Way He Had His Arm Round Her For A While?, The Little Things That He Did. = ]
LdotAngel77 2 years ago 9
haha my moms name is stephanie and she loves mj and stephanie mills music.
lastephla 2 years ago 2
HAHA MINE IS STEPHANIE TOO
im just happy he even dated sumone with my name ;) haha shes shorter than be so i wudnt be that bad next to him im only like 5'1 haha not even i think im 5'0 :)
StephanieeMxo 2 years ago
Stephanie is not that bad looking
iwantMJ1 2 years ago 6
wow...mike should've had me instead lol..j/k
iwantMJ1 2 years ago
If mike would have gotton back with stephanie i think his life would have taken a different path. I believe she would have had his babies shoot I would have had his babies if he wanted little chocolate dumblings.
kymkatt33 2 years ago 32
@kymkatt33 - my goodness. If you think about it being MJ's wife or girlfriend or whatever will be like living in a fish bowl. That's a very special person with a high-level of constitution.
sealie15 1 year ago
Michael liked them "thick" girls, hahaha . jkjk
k0deredd 2 years ago 22
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i see pepole with spots on their skin every day plus u just dont turn white u got to bleach your skin
ashcash1231 2 years ago
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they were very kute togther they would look even better if he stayed black
ashcash1231 2 years ago
he had vitiligo
trevanismith 2 years ago 10
oooo....look at that smile. So fine!!!
WinterSnow93 2 years ago 12
Stephanie Mills!!!
Fawcett75 2 years ago 4
thanx!!
genius4music 2 years ago 3
I said what I said the end.
MJ FOREVER!
Lezgurl21 2 years ago 2
Stephanie is not some girl off of the street. She's an accomplished singer and she was not just some infatuated fan.
miarjay 2 years ago 35
Stephanie could've gotten it...too bad she lacked confidence (she thought she was "too dark" for Mike). Shame...
LaiahIsabelle 2 years ago 14
I think Stephanie was being sarcastic when she made that comment about being too dark. Since Michael never openly dated any other black women, that's why she said it. Stephanie just doesn't seem like the type to lack self confidence.
miarjay 2 years ago 33
They should have stayed together!!! They made the cutest couple! :)
miarjay 2 years ago 14
Both Mike and Stephanie look good...I love them together...THEY SEEMED SO COMFORTABLE AROUND EACHOTHER...WERE THEY DATING AGAIN AT THIS TIME???
DeishaGuy 2 years ago 19
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no his main squeeze was Tatiana thumbtzen at the time
seximamma1222 2 years ago
lol yea forgot about that....lol Mike was a little playa then but still a gentlemen though....aww so cute....
DeishaGuy 2 years ago 12
babyboy look good
wagwan86 2 years ago 13
omg his ex stephanie mills?aww wish they would of gotten back together 2 cute
reesesncreme 2 years ago 19
Thats too much beauty for one video...Stephanie and Michael, Oh My...
NewWorldRob 2 years ago 21
lol...tnx
earthlyme 2 years ago 5