@wcemichael Michael, you're a coward! You blocked me because I pointed out why your pseudo science can not work. You simply refuse to acknowledge the laws of nature. You get aggravated when I explain how it works., like the fact that you can not create or destroy energy, only convert it.
You then blocked me and selectively deleted messages that made you look bad.
You sir, are a real scam artist ! I seriously hope you get fined one day.
@a1mint Your a coward and a hypocrite as well because I remain blocked on your channel & had several comments deleted from it, while I HAVE GIVEN YOU MULITBLE passes back on my channel. "the pot calling the kettel black" You are only open to your insterpritation OF ANYTHING and since even showing you actual working test is a total waist of time, I choose not to waist any more time trying to convice you of anything. Coward? You know my name, my face & my voice. You offer none of these. Good day.
@wcemichael It is YOU that blocked me, and then erased specific messages. It makes YOU the coward! Not me!
I keep pointing out the laws of nature, and I've bent over backwards explaining to you how you can not create or destroy energy, only convert it. You keep on not getting it, and keep on barfing up completely nonsense like "use the energy twice". Either you do not have the capacity to listen and learn, or you're a complete con artist and a fraud !
@a1mint So now the "He hit me first"? chiIdish. I left all of your message for quite some time. and you still have quite a few. You deleted ALL of my messages the very next day after leaving them. Coward! And I never claim to destroy or create energy out of thin air. "using engery to make energy" is the same as "converting energy" or ":trading one for another" Do you use money to buy food or trade it for food? Same diff. You need me to be a fraud to support what you think you know.
@a1mint So your saying you can't take 12v and run 2-6v lights in series. Come on, I had a old snowmobile that ran 2 - 6v coils in series, one for each cylider. So the same power can be used twice. While still using steam engines, a way came up to reuse the same steam to push a smaller piston and then an even smaller piston, to increase overall efficiency. The same energy was used 3 times. Try using that math your so fond of.
@wcemichael We haven't had any discussion about 12 volt batteries and lights. You're in fact creating a straw man argument here.
You can't use the same energy multiple times. It's possible that you use a PORTION of it and then ANOTHER PORTION of the remaining after that, but the "same energy" using multiple times is not possible.
You're obviously have a very difficult time thinking clearly. You could better yourself by engaging in constructive conversations, but the problem is that you lie.
@a1mint Did your mother have any childeren that lived? It's an example of what your ignoring in my video, where I used power to light a bulb then the same electrons powered the HHO unit. I can't do it but yet I did. It's how I'm going to power my bike unit next year and produce more HHO without worrying about battery drain. And you wonder why I get tired of talking to you....
@wcemichael Everything you observe in an experiment is perfectly explainable. Just keep in mind the laws of nature. In that you can not create or destroy energy, only convert it.
You're such a quack, a fraud, and an in your face bona fide LIAR, it just aint funny !
@a1mint Then explain it! I ran power to high amp light. I then ran a HHO jar after it in series and used exact same electrons to power the jar. If I hook up another jar next to the first one (not after it) the light will get brighter. I did it so. so explain it.
@wcemichael You'll have to provide the full details about this in order to expect a meaningful response. Until then, given the other crap you've barfed up, it's reasonable to assume that everything you're saying now, is absolutely and entirely full of utter shit shit shit and more shit.
@a1mint You saw the vid. I told you the basic principal behind it. YOU SAID IT WAS PERFECTLY EXPLAINABLE SO DO IT. Should be easy for a smart guy like you. Your just want to pass the buck because YOU CAN'T. You say your so F-N smart, PROVE IT. I figured it out. For once you'll have actualy do some homework for a change instead passing off somebody else's knowledge for your own. YOUR JUST LOOKING FOR AN EASY OUT, CAUSE IF I DON'T EXPLAIN IT YOU'LL BLAME ME, IF I DO EXPLAIN IT YOU'LL SAY IT'S CRAP
@wcemichael You're distorting and confusing matter again, through straw man hat arguments.
You refuse to recognize the laws of nature, and refuse to provide actual proper scientifically sound evidence. Instead you ask skeptics to prove that "you're wrong"? Huh? That's backwards! The onus is on YOU to prove your point, NOT the other way around.
You're also not thinking rationally, because commercially, HHO has no business, and you blame that on oil-company conspiracies. You're absurd !
@wcemichael ... also, I believe it was you that I asked to do an experiment, after which you quickly blocked and erased my message on your video. I'm not 100% sure if that was you, but I'll make my suggestion again.
- have a way to easily turn on and off the HHO device inside the car / bike through a switch.
- drive at a constant speed on the highway.
- turn HHO on. The vehicle should speed up.
- turn HHO off. The vehicle should return to original speed.
@a1mint OR you can do a MPG calculation when you fill up (Its called using math). I told you to spend a mere $20 and try it yourself...OH no! Now you claim you can explailn my experiment, but you can't do that either. SO NOW YOUR TRYING TO BACK OUT OF YOU OWN STATMENT!
BTW. a friend of mine has a 6 pack installed in his mothers truck powerd by a feedback loop. He CAN turn the unit on and off and watch the RPM raise and lower. So now back to your statemet EXPLAIN THAT EXPERIMENT SMART GUY!!!
@a1mint TO EVERYONE READING THESE POST. a1mint here said he could explain my video "HHO generators. Experiment on how to run with no resistance." his exact quote was it is "perfectly explainable." but yet after 2 days of trying to bactrack, he still has no answer. He can only insult me. THIS IS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE YOU DON'T NEED TO LISTEN TO. They claim to know everything yet they can't explain a simple electrical experiment that anybody with just basic knowlege of electricity could comprehend!
@wcemichael TO EVERYONE READING THESE POSTS. wcemichael is desperately making up excuses and coming up with nothing but excuse after excuse. He clearly EVADES dealing with questions asked.
When presented with a point that makes him look on the losing side, he avoids dealing with it, and comes up with unrelated distractions.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF FRAUDULENT SCAM ARTIST LIAR HE TRULY HIS !
NEVER is there ANY proper SCIENCE to be seen in ANY of his claims.
@a1mint I have video entries, with calculations (normally called math you said you could do math) backing up my work. EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO CHECK THEM. If you can't exept it or try it yourself and do you own testing then it's your problem. You said you could easily explain something. YOU'VE NOW MADE 4 ENTRIES WITHOUT MAKING THE EXPLINATION YOU SAID YOU COULD DO EASILY. Your next entry will not explain it either, because you can't. You want me to do all the explaining only to ignore the data.
@wcemichael Your latest video about 12V and 6V lights again shows that you do not understand both the Conservation of Energy natural law, and also Ohm's Law.
I = V / R
Watts = Volts * Amperage
You keep pretending that somehow there is free energy, or that you can discount the energy used somehow.
Again: all energy, and that includes the energy that your HHO unit produces in the form of stored energy in Hydrogen, must *ALL* be accounted for. There are no freebies.
@a1mint ROTFLMGDAO! HHHHAAAAAHAHAHAHa. you can't expain something like you said you could now you've spent a week trying to figure it out. but you can't so now your resorting to things like calling me names. The way you want to test HHO doesn't involve the math you claim to kling to or be done correctly without a HUGE working space free of traffic. You don't know a volt from an amp. So you admit by default that you can't explain what you said you could. Good bye loser.
@wcemichael It's YOU that is the one that is not explaining things. I've been perfectly clear on everything. I've provided reasons why on-board on-demand HHO devices can not offer any benefit.
And again, you demonstrate that you do not understand science, and Ohm's Law. Energy is not voltage or amperage. Energy is Voltage multiplied by Amperage. You don't even acknowledge that, because it screws up your stupid videos.
Judging who's the loser here, is left to others. I'm nor worried at all.
@a1mint If I don't think it's too weird, maybe next year.. My bike is down for the season. THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE. It will be up again next season where I will use this new hook up you can't explain and get more HHO. Now! I will try to do a follow up more COMPLETE TEST. on this hook up using multible units before snow falls, maybe this weekend. If this works like I said it will, will it convince you (just the smallest bit) that I might know what I'm talking about?
@wcemichael The excuses are you not acknowledging things like the laws of nature, Ohm's law, and refusing to acknowledge aspects that proves that it can fundamentally not work. Also, your fantasies about using energy twice and crap like that is pure pseudo science.
As for a test, do the turn on-off, watch immediate impact, tests. And follow the scientific process (look that up please), repeatable, double blind trials, verified confirmed by independent party (ie. not a friend).
@a1mint cont. You are partialy correct when saying the extra energy is canceled by the energy taken from the alt, but I have still seen enough gains to keep experimenting. This is a direct hookup to the power supply. What I am talking about now is an inderect hookup using the existing power being used more efficiently, and we'll see when I get it hooked up.
Now! You won't try to copy my work, You don't have too. But another person is copying my work. He has no connection to me....cont.
@wcemichael There is no such thing as canceling energy. You can not create or destroy energy. Look, you really need to start understanding how energy works. You keep trying out different fantasy terms. You *think* it helps you define it better, but it does not.
Keep it simple and clear: you can not create or destroy energy, you can only convert its form. There is no such thing as using energy twice. There is no such thing as converting energy more efficiently. Energy converts period.
@a1mint cont2...No connection to me, he is in England. If it doesn't work he'd be the first to yell SCAM, makes sense, right? Not spending more than $20 so if it doesn't work, then he is not out a lot of money. If he gets any results, will this convince you, just enough for us to stop fighting about it? then we can work together to see if it can be taken further. There is still another way, I haven't even started to talk about to make extra power for HHO without using an alt or gen.
@wcemichael As for scams, you have that written all over you. You're making claims that every scientist or people that understand science thinks is complete bogus. All those people think you're either nuts, ignorant, or a pure scam artist trying to intentionally fool others.
The thing is that it appears that no matter how well someone explains to you anything that *should* change your mind or teach you something - you always appear to discard that information.
@a1mint You just changed the subject. The exact same thing X 2 can be said about you. somebody copies my work, if they don't get results, then it proves your point. If they do get results they are part of the scam. If next year I have 2 mechanics and the entire police force check my bike, then what?
@a1mint Not a hard test to do? going up and down hills but I have to maintain speed. the wind blowing different speeds and shifting and so is the road. I'm aproaching a truck but I have to maintain speed... BOOM! Well officer I had to hit the truck cause this guy called me a scammer....And then I pay my fines, get out of the hospital. And you'll know I didn't fake this test because.........? But I can fake 2 mechanics and a police station inspecting my vehicle?
@wcemichael You can easily test by finding a straight long road. The effects ought to be fairly immediate. You're making up excuses. And that's what you do, naturally, as the true little con artist you really are. Every time someone challenges you or proposes something that might show that you are wrong, you make up excuses and dismiss information. This is not what a scientist does. And that's because you're not a scientist and science is clearly your enemy. And that's because you're a LIAR !
@a1mint cont Hey how about this, I fill up my vehicle run about 50 miles and fill up agian. see how much gas I used and how many miles I went, and use the COMPLICATED SCIENCY THING CALLED MATH, using the equation Miles/gallons=MPG then run this test again with the unit on. Or better yet, run a WHOLE tank of gas and wait for the EMPTY light to come on and see how many miles I went, and compair..OH, wait I forgot you can't explain simple things.
@wcemichael Does work, because there is no way to prove that the conditions are the same between fill ups. In your previous message you're making up excuses that didn't apply. But the things you mentioned very much apply to your method of measuring between fillups. You're SUCH a con artist. Do you *actually* ANY normal intelligent rational thinking person believes anything you barf up here? Seriously, you're looking like a total idiot here. Oh here come the excuses. but but but the name calling.
@a1mint Do you hear your self talking? drove 60 miles/tank for 2 years. If 2 YEARS of driving doesn't establish a scientific baseline control. what on earth will? I think 2 years would cover almost any condition you could imagine thrown at it, minus a tornado. This WHOLE year the bike went 80 miles/tank, driving hundreds of miles, tank after tank after tank after tank. not 61 miles not 63 miles. You think some mirical road condition game me 80/t for a whole year, and yet I'M delulsional?
@a1mint 2 years baseline control AND somebody copied my work and got results. If you don't want to accept it or copy my work to verify it youself, that's your problem. I'm tired of beating my head agianst the wall named a1mint. I'm out of here.
@wcemichael That's not credible evidence at all! You're expecting others to simply take your word for it without proving valid evidence. The reason why you're seeing resistance is first of all, anyone who understand things like the Conservation of Energy, knows that it is not possible for a device like this to have any positive influence.
So that's problem number one. Second, car manufacturers aren't using this. You answer that with conspiracy theories. The list of crap from you goes on and on.
@wcemichael ... and about that university. When you approach a professional body like that and you demonstrate that this device works, you'll get a lot of attention ! You'll make a really big name of yourself ! They're absolutely acknowledge you ! And that's because Science respects its information source very much so.
But noone has done this, now why is that? Could it be perhaps that this WHOLE FUCKING THING IS JUST ONE BIG STINKING LIE FROM LYING QUACK SCAM ARTISTS SUCH AS YOURSELF ? daah ok.
"If you don't want to accept it or copy my work to verify it youself, that's your problem. "
Automobile manufacturers are required to submit EPA certified dynamometer tests to establish a baseline estimated fuel economy for their vehicles. You are expected to do exactly the same thing. These tests have CONTROLS in them so two identical vehicles will the same result within statistical margins.
Confirm your results, using EPA tests, get $1million from James Randi
No, it's your problem. If for some reason you can't do dynamometer testing, a closed track would do the trick. A track would be a control. Replace your fuel take with a granulated vessel, go let's say 30 miles at 60mpg, once with the device on, once with it off.
"drove 60 miles/tank for 2 years. If 2 YEARS of driving doesn't establish a scientific baseline control. what on earth will"
dynamometer under controlled conditions. Seriously, I can't drive for 2 years and get the same results you do. There are variations in temperature, terrain, vehicles, DIVING HABITS, weight, pressure, you name it. It's rather why the EPA doesn't accept driving tests.
In fact you cult guys will give every excuse NOT to test under controlled conditions .
"Do you hear your self talking? drove 60 miles/tank for 2 years"
Bully for you.
"If 2 YEARS of driving doesn't establish a scientific baseline control. what on earth will? "
1/4 mile at the track, 5 mile at the track. Pretty much any fixed distance, with fixed variables, that others can repeat exactly for comparison. The EPA has two, highway and city. That's what baseline means, and that's what controls mean.
@a1mint Your next entry will be something like "The stuff you do is not science"" or calling me names, or "your dodging something you already explained but I ignored". "preaching someone elses knowledge is proper science, not doing experiments"
One of your favorite vids has a guy who did very carful experiments, with very careful measurements and multible runs. His first set of experiments failed and you had a joygasm. This same guy reexamined his HHO unit and built a new one and ran the same set of experiments. This set showed improved running time. Funny how you missed that one and I didn't, huh? by the way thanks for showing me that vid, we are friends now thanks to you.
@wcemichael - I did not miss anything. Of Course he is going to say it works, he has been selling the HHO Scam for years. Take a look at his web site, alt-nrg,org/legal,html it tells a different story.
"Our cells have not been approved for use with automobiles by the EPA. In fact, the EPA regards these cells as a fuel switiching device and prohibits their use in automobiles.?
In some areas, you can be fined up to $2500. by the EPA, just for having one on your vehicle.
@HHOinfo That wassen't the point. He was willing to try it. His first test failed & you were willing to accept his findings & post it. His next text was a succsess & you do not accept it nor do you post it. If all he wanted to do was say it works he never would have posted the failing test. It's not been appoved because he didnt seek approval from the EPA & he states that. You said you wanted to see if anyone could show you where your math might be mistaken, not haggle over gov'ment issues.
sure Hydrogen will not ignight at a 4% concentration, but what you fail to mention is that small persentage is added to the gas already in the combustion chamber, Like saying a single log will not burn by itself, well duh, Your adding the log to a already burning campfire. the gas being used is a poor burning fuel. much unused energy goes out the tail pipe while H is helping to use up some of the unused energy. Problems can be worked around if you take the time to figure them out.
@wcemichael - Problems can be worked around if you MAKE UP SOME BULLSHIT.
Concentrations of Hydrogen of less than 4% by volume will not ignite. Why is that so hard for you to understand. If you want to believe all the bullshit made up by HHO peddlers. then you deserve to be Scammed.
@HHOinfo A 4% H concentrat won't ignite, we'll accept that for the sake of argumet. But your statment is 4% all by itself. Say (for the sake of agument) there are 26 burnable gases, A-Z (H included). a 3% con of any won't ignite. BUT combine a 3% con of ALL the gases together, then you have a total of a 78% mixed con. Try telling me it's impossible for that to ignite. So, even if 1 atom of H is mixed with a higher con of gas, that 1 atom will burn when the other gas burns. Impossible not to.
@wcemichael - "26 burnable gases". What does that have to do with this video ? Do you have a learning disorder ? I will explain it one more time. Please pay attention.
Hydrogen gas is highly flammable and will burn in air at a very wide range of concentrations between 4% and 75% by volume. Below 4% it will not ignite.
Take a volume of air, add 3% hydrogen - it will not ignite - even with a blow torch. Keyword here is "air" look up what is in air.
@HHOinfo obviously you do. The 26 was hypothetical. Even a child could undetstand that point. Your argument is about running a 4% H con, WITHOUT GASOLINE. Under this condition it won't work. Your equation is imcomplete!!!
@HHOinfo as said look up GAS CRACKER. exhaust temperature 700 degress for example will cause h20 to split. the hydrogen is usable. electrolysis will also split h20.
CRUDE OIL has been treated with ultrasonic cavitation to break down the long chain hydrocarbons to a more easily usable/sellable petrol and diesel ....and hydrogen is used in part of the process to aid it
BIG OIL have been using this for years. better they make money and want to keep it that way.
"It just burns the toxic atoms of fuel to stop the emissions"
Toxic Atoms?!?!?!
Keep in mind that power is just energy over time. A marginal improvement of energy over a longer time equates to less power. Modern engines are designed to burn all the fuel, even though this takes more time, thus less power. Even in the late 1980s, engines burnt between 95% to 98% of their fuel. What the engine doesn't burn, the cat does, and you get warned of the cat is burning too much.
I don't care what your math says. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, shits like a duck.........then it must be a duck. If somebody tells me dancing around the car in indian feathers and loin cloth, shaking rattles and chanting, will work. If I try it and it seems to work reapetedly, then I will continue not matter what you say. Telling me it won't work, doesn't work, yet you keep doing it. Do you have a logical reason for me to stop, besides "it won't work"
@HHOinfo If all you can do is keep going back to these figures then you've haven't proven anything to me. ANYBODY CAN MAKE AN EXPERIMENT THAT FAILS. I could go out side right now and make a vid proving wood does not burn. People are not going to care.
@HHOinfo Hey thanks for showing pieces of my vid on your home page. Thanks to you more people are finding my vid and giving it a try. You know the reason my unit works on my bike is I was able to free up some the power used and put it in the HHO unit. I've also figures out how to use the leftover energy from the biggest power gulper, being the headlight, and run several units at once with zero resistance and not use and extra bit of power from the bike. but your not interested in data like that
All the information created by NASA ROCKET SCIENTIST said we could create a reusable space shuttle that is practicle and cheaper than using 1 use disposible rockets. we are now retiring the space shuttle because, ONLY AFTER 30 YEARS OF APPLIED USE, we NOW know that the space shuttle is not practical OR chaeper. Lesson 1: even a rocket scientist can be wrong. Lesson 2: the mathamatics of a project doen't compaire to the applied use of that project.
About economics. In any case, the shuttle was a political choice, not a engineering one. . It was designed with film cameras in mind. Photograph the soviet union, develop the photos, fly down as fast as possible, get them to The Pentagon. Digital photography took a big leap forward, so part of the major design of the shuttle was never used.
No matter what I say, you will alway go back to the "ALLWAYS, NO EXEPTIONS" rule so I will not try. Logicaly if one test says one thing and another test says another thing, then one test is faulty. I approached HHO with an open mind, tried it on 3 different vehicles, in each case, gas milage was improved. This has been repeated & confirmed. I am even running my non-ethinal truck on ethinal. saying it doesn't won't make it stop. So I call & raise the steaks. Come here & prove MY units don't work!
the power of money has overcome the power of logic. I could give a RATS ASS ABOUT, WHAT YOU THINK . I WILL NOT GIVE YOU INFO ON ANYTHING . your mind is made up and I dont care enough to teach you. STAY ignorant, I dont care
You do not have the truth about HHO. your just spreding lies mixed with truths. you make claims that have no facts . you claim HHO cant increase MPG. HHO is a highly combustable gas . that is a fact you seem to ignor. U dont even use your owm voice in your claims. like I said before I dont care what you think and I just dont need or want prove anything to you or any ignorant person. GO AHEAD AND STAY STUPID . there are scammers, but not all are
@HHOinfo-- When you say it can't be done, you are inferring that you personally know all the laws of physics reguarding HHO production from water. And furthermore, that you personally have exhausted all of these avenues and they are all dead ends.
Because your depth of work in this area is not possible all your statements fall flat on anyone with a brain.
Besides, your are a robot and robots have no original thoughts and
robots memories are programmed by original thinkers.
@weslingm Typical HHO'er response, everyone is stupid except you. What you figure if you do enough experiments, and keep trying enough different things, you can somehow get around physics. LOL !!!!
Hope you have lot's to time & Money to throw away.
@HHOinfo Did your mommy slap you at 2y old and say "you can't do that" Now it's your youtube mission to impose your limitations on others?
Sir, if you think science (on planet earth) as a whole, knows all there is to know about matter and the manipulation of matter. Then I can say without a doubt you are wrong in your assumptions.
@weslingm - I am not the one imposing limitations on others. That job is already taken by Physics. I wish it wasn't. I would love it if an electrolyzes devise could make fuel on board a vehicle, even if it just improved MPG. I am all for getting away from fossil fuel BEFORE we run out of it. But, unfortunately, HHO is just a SCAM. And I hate a Scam. I very much dislike people that will stoop that low to sell a Scam. Why do you want to be one of those people ?
If this stuff worked, then VW and Toyota and Honda and EVERY OTHER car manufacturer would be putting HHO in their cars, along with every other fuel saving device they have developed that allows cars to go a thousand kilometres on a single tank.
@PiCoF - I know how it is claimed to work, too bad the laws of physics won't let it work that way.
You said, "the information is correct" , The information shows quite clearly that adding HHO will not improve MPG. Don't you think it is time to quit beat this dead horse.
@HHOinfo you think you can slap the laws of physics on this and your automaticaly right ? what a moron. No body is gonna break the laws of physics . If they claIM TO THEY ARE SCAMMERS. there are scammers on both sides of this. and YOU HHOinfo are one of them
@goose2goose2 - "fucking troll!" - and your going to educate ME.
Why should we expect anything less from a SELLER of the HHO SCAM.
You claim your devices gets a "40%+Mileage Increase" It only takes 25% increase to win $1,000,000.00 from James Randi, not to mention the "Nobel Prize" another cool million.
I think your the troll, advertising your HHO Scam. Your just stealing money from uninformed people that can least afford it.
I'm stepping up to the plate and stating that I experiment with HHO cells for vehicles and home heating because I'm sick and tired of the huge amounts of pollution created from fossil fuels ...vehicles that run on HHO cells alone and magnetic propulsion engines = no pollution , so please wake up and create something beneficial for our world rather than putting down those that are at least trying to create a better world, FREE ENERGY FOREVER, ... my facts you wrkpehbvg
@SuperChromer1 It is time for a reality check there are several different ways to measure the energy output of the internal combustion engine horsepower, BTU and finally kilowatt hour.
A 200 horsepower engine is = to 149.1 kilowatt hour if you want to reduced your gas consumption by 10 % and replace it with HHO you would need an HHO output of 14.910 kilowatts.
@SuperChromer1 OK let's say that you have a power source capable of delivering 300V X 49.7A = 14.910 kilowatts then and only then could you accomplish this. But where does the energy come from to produce the 14.910 kilowatts?
Good site! I professor once told me if you cant put it into numbers and calculations then it can not be proved true, i think that is the major problem with a lot of HHO believers, they do not know the math to prove it can not be done!
I thought I made it very clear the purpose of this video. It is Not to have a debate about if hho works. I have already proven it does not on the web site. Unless the laws of the Universe has a coo or it is discovered the math has changed so 2+2 does not = 4 or there is an error in the information provided on the web site.
I am still waiting for someone to prove there is an error.
NASA has never claimed these devices work; the cult retards who claim otherwise are lying. The NASA document these cult nuts claim supports their extraordinary claims does not do so: the cult clowns just hope people don't actually read the document.
Ah, that has nothing at all to do with "HHO" nor the on-demand idiot devices that this channel, and many of my videos, debunked and refuted--- and you damn well know it. That's the best you cult retards can do: swap the subject and hope nobody notices.
These gadgets that break water down into hydrogen and oxygen always appear to work because they are getting energy from the battery for the electrolysis. But they can't work because they violate physics. It's a scam.
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wcemichael 5 months ago
@wcemichael Michael, you're a coward! You blocked me because I pointed out why your pseudo science can not work. You simply refuse to acknowledge the laws of nature. You get aggravated when I explain how it works., like the fact that you can not create or destroy energy, only convert it.
You then blocked me and selectively deleted messages that made you look bad.
You sir, are a real scam artist ! I seriously hope you get fined one day.
a1mint 4 months ago
@a1mint Your a coward and a hypocrite as well because I remain blocked on your channel & had several comments deleted from it, while I HAVE GIVEN YOU MULITBLE passes back on my channel. "the pot calling the kettel black" You are only open to your insterpritation OF ANYTHING and since even showing you actual working test is a total waist of time, I choose not to waist any more time trying to convice you of anything. Coward? You know my name, my face & my voice. You offer none of these. Good day.
wcemichael 4 months ago
@wcemichael It is YOU that blocked me, and then erased specific messages. It makes YOU the coward! Not me!
I keep pointing out the laws of nature, and I've bent over backwards explaining to you how you can not create or destroy energy, only convert it. You keep on not getting it, and keep on barfing up completely nonsense like "use the energy twice". Either you do not have the capacity to listen and learn, or you're a complete con artist and a fraud !
a1mint 4 months ago
@a1mint So now the "He hit me first"? chiIdish. I left all of your message for quite some time. and you still have quite a few. You deleted ALL of my messages the very next day after leaving them. Coward! And I never claim to destroy or create energy out of thin air. "using engery to make energy" is the same as "converting energy" or ":trading one for another" Do you use money to buy food or trade it for food? Same diff. You need me to be a fraud to support what you think you know.
wcemichael 4 months ago
@wcemichael You deleted all my messages except a few... and you call *ME* childish? That's rich!
I don't have any videos up.
Your nonsensical statements like "using energy twice" surely make it clear that you simply do not understand these laws of nature.
And yes, I think you're a fraud and a liar. With your pants on fire.
a1mint 4 months ago
@a1mint So your saying you can't take 12v and run 2-6v lights in series. Come on, I had a old snowmobile that ran 2 - 6v coils in series, one for each cylider. So the same power can be used twice. While still using steam engines, a way came up to reuse the same steam to push a smaller piston and then an even smaller piston, to increase overall efficiency. The same energy was used 3 times. Try using that math your so fond of.
wcemichael 4 months ago
@wcemichael We haven't had any discussion about 12 volt batteries and lights. You're in fact creating a straw man argument here.
You can't use the same energy multiple times. It's possible that you use a PORTION of it and then ANOTHER PORTION of the remaining after that, but the "same energy" using multiple times is not possible.
You're obviously have a very difficult time thinking clearly. You could better yourself by engaging in constructive conversations, but the problem is that you lie.
a1mint 4 months ago
@a1mint Did your mother have any childeren that lived? It's an example of what your ignoring in my video, where I used power to light a bulb then the same electrons powered the HHO unit. I can't do it but yet I did. It's how I'm going to power my bike unit next year and produce more HHO without worrying about battery drain. And you wonder why I get tired of talking to you....
wcemichael 4 months ago
@wcemichael Everything you observe in an experiment is perfectly explainable. Just keep in mind the laws of nature. In that you can not create or destroy energy, only convert it.
You're such a quack, a fraud, and an in your face bona fide LIAR, it just aint funny !
a1mint 4 months ago
@a1mint Then explain it! I ran power to high amp light. I then ran a HHO jar after it in series and used exact same electrons to power the jar. If I hook up another jar next to the first one (not after it) the light will get brighter. I did it so. so explain it.
wcemichael 4 months ago
@wcemichael You'll have to provide the full details about this in order to expect a meaningful response. Until then, given the other crap you've barfed up, it's reasonable to assume that everything you're saying now, is absolutely and entirely full of utter shit shit shit and more shit.
a1mint 4 months ago
@a1mint You saw the vid. I told you the basic principal behind it. YOU SAID IT WAS PERFECTLY EXPLAINABLE SO DO IT. Should be easy for a smart guy like you. Your just want to pass the buck because YOU CAN'T. You say your so F-N smart, PROVE IT. I figured it out. For once you'll have actualy do some homework for a change instead passing off somebody else's knowledge for your own. YOUR JUST LOOKING FOR AN EASY OUT, CAUSE IF I DON'T EXPLAIN IT YOU'LL BLAME ME, IF I DO EXPLAIN IT YOU'LL SAY IT'S CRAP
wcemichael 4 months ago
@wcemichael You're distorting and confusing matter again, through straw man hat arguments.
You refuse to recognize the laws of nature, and refuse to provide actual proper scientifically sound evidence. Instead you ask skeptics to prove that "you're wrong"? Huh? That's backwards! The onus is on YOU to prove your point, NOT the other way around.
You're also not thinking rationally, because commercially, HHO has no business, and you blame that on oil-company conspiracies. You're absurd !
a1mint 4 months ago
@wcemichael ... also, I believe it was you that I asked to do an experiment, after which you quickly blocked and erased my message on your video. I'm not 100% sure if that was you, but I'll make my suggestion again.
- have a way to easily turn on and off the HHO device inside the car / bike through a switch.
- drive at a constant speed on the highway.
- turn HHO on. The vehicle should speed up.
- turn HHO off. The vehicle should return to original speed.
Repeatable, and PEER REVIEWED !
a1mint 4 months ago
@a1mint OR you can do a MPG calculation when you fill up (Its called using math). I told you to spend a mere $20 and try it yourself...OH no! Now you claim you can explailn my experiment, but you can't do that either. SO NOW YOUR TRYING TO BACK OUT OF YOU OWN STATMENT!
BTW. a friend of mine has a 6 pack installed in his mothers truck powerd by a feedback loop. He CAN turn the unit on and off and watch the RPM raise and lower. So now back to your statemet EXPLAIN THAT EXPERIMENT SMART GUY!!!
wcemichael 4 months ago
@wcemichael You keep on making excuses and refuse to back up any of your claims with scientifically sound evidence. You're SUCH a FRAUD and a LIAR !
a1mint 4 months ago
@a1mint TO EVERYONE READING THESE POST. a1mint here said he could explain my video "HHO generators. Experiment on how to run with no resistance." his exact quote was it is "perfectly explainable." but yet after 2 days of trying to bactrack, he still has no answer. He can only insult me. THIS IS THE TYPE OF PEOPLE YOU DON'T NEED TO LISTEN TO. They claim to know everything yet they can't explain a simple electrical experiment that anybody with just basic knowlege of electricity could comprehend!
wcemichael 4 months ago
@wcemichael TO EVERYONE READING THESE POSTS. wcemichael is desperately making up excuses and coming up with nothing but excuse after excuse. He clearly EVADES dealing with questions asked.
When presented with a point that makes him look on the losing side, he avoids dealing with it, and comes up with unrelated distractions.
THIS IS THE TYPE OF FRAUDULENT SCAM ARTIST LIAR HE TRULY HIS !
NEVER is there ANY proper SCIENCE to be seen in ANY of his claims.
ROTFLMAO...
a1mint 4 months ago
@a1mint I have video entries, with calculations (normally called math you said you could do math) backing up my work. EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO CHECK THEM. If you can't exept it or try it yourself and do you own testing then it's your problem. You said you could easily explain something. YOU'VE NOW MADE 4 ENTRIES WITHOUT MAKING THE EXPLINATION YOU SAID YOU COULD DO EASILY. Your next entry will not explain it either, because you can't. You want me to do all the explaining only to ignore the data.
wcemichael 4 months ago
@wcemichael Your latest video about 12V and 6V lights again shows that you do not understand both the Conservation of Energy natural law, and also Ohm's Law.
I = V / R
Watts = Volts * Amperage
You keep pretending that somehow there is free energy, or that you can discount the energy used somehow.
Again: all energy, and that includes the energy that your HHO unit produces in the form of stored energy in Hydrogen, must *ALL* be accounted for. There are no freebies.
a1mint 3 months ago
@wcemichael AGAIN, you claim to "use energy twice". THAT IS NOT POSSIBLE !
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint You CLAIM you coud explain it. you waited a week. NOW EXPLAINE IT. PUT UP OR SHUT UP OR ACTUALY STUFF YOUR SELF.
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael You AGAIN avoid dealing with any science, because you don't understand science.
When I point out things like Ohm Law and the laws of nature: Conservation of Energy, you look the other way and come up with excuses.
When I point out when you say ridiculous things like "using energy twice", you change the subject and resort to an excuse.
When I describe a way to test HHO, you avoid it, you change the subject, and you'll come up with distractions and excuses.
YOU ARE A CON - ARTIST !
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint ROTFLMGDAO! HHHHAAAAAHAHAHAHa. you can't expain something like you said you could now you've spent a week trying to figure it out. but you can't so now your resorting to things like calling me names. The way you want to test HHO doesn't involve the math you claim to kling to or be done correctly without a HUGE working space free of traffic. You don't know a volt from an amp. So you admit by default that you can't explain what you said you could. Good bye loser.
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael It's YOU that is the one that is not explaining things. I've been perfectly clear on everything. I've provided reasons why on-board on-demand HHO devices can not offer any benefit.
And again, you demonstrate that you do not understand science, and Ohm's Law. Energy is not voltage or amperage. Energy is Voltage multiplied by Amperage. You don't even acknowledge that, because it screws up your stupid videos.
Judging who's the loser here, is left to others. I'm nor worried at all.
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Oh, I'm sorry did you say something?
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael Again, you evade dealing with the subject. Nothing but excuses with you.
If I outline a test that would prove or disprove HHO, would you do that test?
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint If I don't think it's too weird, maybe next year.. My bike is down for the season. THAT IS NOT AN EXCUSE. It will be up again next season where I will use this new hook up you can't explain and get more HHO. Now! I will try to do a follow up more COMPLETE TEST. on this hook up using multible units before snow falls, maybe this weekend. If this works like I said it will, will it convince you (just the smallest bit) that I might know what I'm talking about?
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael The excuses are you not acknowledging things like the laws of nature, Ohm's law, and refusing to acknowledge aspects that proves that it can fundamentally not work. Also, your fantasies about using energy twice and crap like that is pure pseudo science.
As for a test, do the turn on-off, watch immediate impact, tests. And follow the scientific process (look that up please), repeatable, double blind trials, verified confirmed by independent party (ie. not a friend).
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint cont. You are partialy correct when saying the extra energy is canceled by the energy taken from the alt, but I have still seen enough gains to keep experimenting. This is a direct hookup to the power supply. What I am talking about now is an inderect hookup using the existing power being used more efficiently, and we'll see when I get it hooked up.
Now! You won't try to copy my work, You don't have too. But another person is copying my work. He has no connection to me....cont.
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael There is no such thing as canceling energy. You can not create or destroy energy. Look, you really need to start understanding how energy works. You keep trying out different fantasy terms. You *think* it helps you define it better, but it does not.
Keep it simple and clear: you can not create or destroy energy, you can only convert its form. There is no such thing as using energy twice. There is no such thing as converting energy more efficiently. Energy converts period.
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint cont2...No connection to me, he is in England. If it doesn't work he'd be the first to yell SCAM, makes sense, right? Not spending more than $20 so if it doesn't work, then he is not out a lot of money. If he gets any results, will this convince you, just enough for us to stop fighting about it? then we can work together to see if it can be taken further. There is still another way, I haven't even started to talk about to make extra power for HHO without using an alt or gen.
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael As for scams, you have that written all over you. You're making claims that every scientist or people that understand science thinks is complete bogus. All those people think you're either nuts, ignorant, or a pure scam artist trying to intentionally fool others.
The thing is that it appears that no matter how well someone explains to you anything that *should* change your mind or teach you something - you always appear to discard that information.
You either a con-man or in denial.
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint You just changed the subject. The exact same thing X 2 can be said about you. somebody copies my work, if they don't get results, then it proves your point. If they do get results they are part of the scam. If next year I have 2 mechanics and the entire police force check my bike, then what?
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael It's just nothing but a bunch of in-cohesive bunch of gobbledecrap you keep on barfing up, isn't it?
Again, here's a test:
- have an on/off button inside the vehicle that the driver can operate.
- drive at constant speed with HHO device off.
- for the remaining steps, ensure that you do not change the accelerator.
- turn HHO device on.
The vehicle should speed up.
- turn HHO device off
The vehicle should slow down to the original speed.
Not a hard test to do. Will you do this?
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint Not a hard test to do? going up and down hills but I have to maintain speed. the wind blowing different speeds and shifting and so is the road. I'm aproaching a truck but I have to maintain speed... BOOM! Well officer I had to hit the truck cause this guy called me a scammer....And then I pay my fines, get out of the hospital. And you'll know I didn't fake this test because.........? But I can fake 2 mechanics and a police station inspecting my vehicle?
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael You can easily test by finding a straight long road. The effects ought to be fairly immediate. You're making up excuses. And that's what you do, naturally, as the true little con artist you really are. Every time someone challenges you or proposes something that might show that you are wrong, you make up excuses and dismiss information. This is not what a scientist does. And that's because you're not a scientist and science is clearly your enemy. And that's because you're a LIAR !
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint cont Hey how about this, I fill up my vehicle run about 50 miles and fill up agian. see how much gas I used and how many miles I went, and use the COMPLICATED SCIENCY THING CALLED MATH, using the equation Miles/gallons=MPG then run this test again with the unit on. Or better yet, run a WHOLE tank of gas and wait for the EMPTY light to come on and see how many miles I went, and compair..OH, wait I forgot you can't explain simple things.
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael Does work, because there is no way to prove that the conditions are the same between fill ups. In your previous message you're making up excuses that didn't apply. But the things you mentioned very much apply to your method of measuring between fillups. You're SUCH a con artist. Do you *actually* ANY normal intelligent rational thinking person believes anything you barf up here? Seriously, you're looking like a total idiot here. Oh here come the excuses. but but but the name calling.
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint Really, the police, who need to lock me up anyway, are not good enough to test a device?
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael It is you that is the one that is not testing the device in a scientifically sound manner, because:
a) you know you're lying and are selling a fraudulent device that you know does not actually do a god damn think.
b) you don't understand science and you are completely delusional.
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint Do you hear your self talking? drove 60 miles/tank for 2 years. If 2 YEARS of driving doesn't establish a scientific baseline control. what on earth will? I think 2 years would cover almost any condition you could imagine thrown at it, minus a tornado. This WHOLE year the bike went 80 miles/tank, driving hundreds of miles, tank after tank after tank after tank. not 61 miles not 63 miles. You think some mirical road condition game me 80/t for a whole year, and yet I'M delulsional?
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael I don't believe you. I think you're lying. And that's because:
1) it conflicts with any credible information.
2) you don't follow the scientific process.
3) your "results" aren't independently verified.
4) you don't respond to scientific questions.
5) you have a the signs of a con artist.
6) you barf up all kinds of absurd pseudo science like "using energy twice" and all the rest of it.
7) you're delusional or a complete in your face bona fide liar.
8) nothing but excuses.
a1mint 3 months ago
@a1mint 2 years baseline control AND somebody copied my work and got results. If you don't want to accept it or copy my work to verify it youself, that's your problem. I'm tired of beating my head agianst the wall named a1mint. I'm out of here.
wcemichael 3 months ago
@wcemichael That's not credible evidence at all! You're expecting others to simply take your word for it without proving valid evidence. The reason why you're seeing resistance is first of all, anyone who understand things like the Conservation of Energy, knows that it is not possible for a device like this to have any positive influence.
So that's problem number one. Second, car manufacturers aren't using this. You answer that with conspiracy theories. The list of crap from you goes on and on.
a1mint 3 months ago
@wcemichael This is the ultimate test right here:
- have an on/off button inside the vehicle that the driver can operate.
- drive at constant speed with HHO device off.
- for the remaining steps, ensure that you do not change the accelerator.
- turn HHO device on.
The vehicle should speed up.
- turn HHO device off
The vehicle should slow down to the original speed.
The test will have to be verified by an independent party. Approach a university that does energy studies or something.
a1mint 3 months ago
@wcemichael ... and about that university. When you approach a professional body like that and you demonstrate that this device works, you'll get a lot of attention ! You'll make a really big name of yourself ! They're absolutely acknowledge you ! And that's because Science respects its information source very much so.
But noone has done this, now why is that? Could it be perhaps that this WHOLE FUCKING THING IS JUST ONE BIG STINKING LIE FROM LYING QUACK SCAM ARTISTS SUCH AS YOURSELF ? daah ok.
a1mint 3 months ago
@wcemichael
"If you don't want to accept it or copy my work to verify it youself, that's your problem. "
Automobile manufacturers are required to submit EPA certified dynamometer tests to establish a baseline estimated fuel economy for their vehicles. You are expected to do exactly the same thing. These tests have CONTROLS in them so two identical vehicles will the same result within statistical margins.
Confirm your results, using EPA tests, get $1million from James Randi
MegaVelvetElvis 3 months ago
" that's your problem"
No, it's your problem. If for some reason you can't do dynamometer testing, a closed track would do the trick. A track would be a control. Replace your fuel take with a granulated vessel, go let's say 30 miles at 60mpg, once with the device on, once with it off.
Your cult refuses to do even this.
MegaVelvetElvis 3 months ago
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a1mint 3 months ago
@wcemichael
"drove 60 miles/tank for 2 years. If 2 YEARS of driving doesn't establish a scientific baseline control. what on earth will"
dynamometer under controlled conditions. Seriously, I can't drive for 2 years and get the same results you do. There are variations in temperature, terrain, vehicles, DIVING HABITS, weight, pressure, you name it. It's rather why the EPA doesn't accept driving tests.
In fact you cult guys will give every excuse NOT to test under controlled conditions .
MegaVelvetElvis 3 months ago
"I think 2 years would cover almost any condition you could imagine thrown at it"
So you concede your driving tests add conditions to the experiment, rather than adding controls.
MegaVelvetElvis 3 months ago
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@wcemichael
"Do you hear your self talking? drove 60 miles/tank for 2 years"
Bully for you.
"If 2 YEARS of driving doesn't establish a scientific baseline control. what on earth will? "
1/4 mile at the track, 5 mile at the track. Pretty much any fixed distance, with fixed variables, that others can repeat exactly for comparison. The EPA has two, highway and city. That's what baseline means, and that's what controls mean.
" yet I'M delulsional"
Yes, yes you are.
MegaVelvetElvis 3 months ago
@a1mint Your next entry will be something like "The stuff you do is not science"" or calling me names, or "your dodging something you already explained but I ignored". "preaching someone elses knowledge is proper science, not doing experiments"
wcemichael 4 months ago
One of your favorite vids has a guy who did very carful experiments, with very careful measurements and multible runs. His first set of experiments failed and you had a joygasm. This same guy reexamined his HHO unit and built a new one and ran the same set of experiments. This set showed improved running time. Funny how you missed that one and I didn't, huh? by the way thanks for showing me that vid, we are friends now thanks to you.
wcemichael 5 months ago
@wcemichael - I did not miss anything. Of Course he is going to say it works, he has been selling the HHO Scam for years. Take a look at his web site, alt-nrg,org/legal,html it tells a different story.
"Our cells have not been approved for use with automobiles by the EPA. In fact, the EPA regards these cells as a fuel switiching device and prohibits their use in automobiles.?
In some areas, you can be fined up to $2500. by the EPA, just for having one on your vehicle.
HHOinfo 5 months ago
@HHOinfo That wassen't the point. He was willing to try it. His first test failed & you were willing to accept his findings & post it. His next text was a succsess & you do not accept it nor do you post it. If all he wanted to do was say it works he never would have posted the failing test. It's not been appoved because he didnt seek approval from the EPA & he states that. You said you wanted to see if anyone could show you where your math might be mistaken, not haggle over gov'ment issues.
wcemichael 5 months ago
@wcemichael - I think you better watch that video again. Run time without hho was 11:40 none of the other tests shows any increase in run time.
10:54 - 10:59 - 8:56 - 9:24 - 10:49
HHOinfo 5 months ago
@HHOinfo Oh I did. run times are
run times with no HHO being used
NO load 11:28. 1/3 HP load 10:48. 2/3 HP l0:12
HHO run time
test 1-11:32 test 2-11:45 test 3-11:41
even the worst HHO result had a better time than the test with no load at all.
wcemichael 5 months ago
sure Hydrogen will not ignight at a 4% concentration, but what you fail to mention is that small persentage is added to the gas already in the combustion chamber, Like saying a single log will not burn by itself, well duh, Your adding the log to a already burning campfire. the gas being used is a poor burning fuel. much unused energy goes out the tail pipe while H is helping to use up some of the unused energy. Problems can be worked around if you take the time to figure them out.
wcemichael 5 months ago
@wcemichael - Problems can be worked around if you MAKE UP SOME BULLSHIT.
Concentrations of Hydrogen of less than 4% by volume will not ignite. Why is that so hard for you to understand. If you want to believe all the bullshit made up by HHO peddlers. then you deserve to be Scammed.
HHOinfo 5 months ago
@HHOinfo A 4% H concentrat won't ignite, we'll accept that for the sake of argumet. But your statment is 4% all by itself. Say (for the sake of agument) there are 26 burnable gases, A-Z (H included). a 3% con of any won't ignite. BUT combine a 3% con of ALL the gases together, then you have a total of a 78% mixed con. Try telling me it's impossible for that to ignite. So, even if 1 atom of H is mixed with a higher con of gas, that 1 atom will burn when the other gas burns. Impossible not to.
wcemichael 5 months ago
@wcemichael - "26 burnable gases". What does that have to do with this video ? Do you have a learning disorder ? I will explain it one more time. Please pay attention.
Hydrogen gas is highly flammable and will burn in air at a very wide range of concentrations between 4% and 75% by volume. Below 4% it will not ignite.
Take a volume of air, add 3% hydrogen - it will not ignite - even with a blow torch. Keyword here is "air" look up what is in air.
HHOinfo 5 months ago
@HHOinfo obviously you do. The 26 was hypothetical. Even a child could undetstand that point. Your argument is about running a 4% H con, WITHOUT GASOLINE. Under this condition it won't work. Your equation is imcomplete!!!
wcemichael 5 months ago
@wcemichael - I have been talking about a gasoline engine. What the hell have you been talking about ?
HHOinfo 5 months ago
@HHOinfo Your 4% con argument is about a gas engine without gasoline being used in it.
wcemichael 5 months ago
LOOK for GAS CRACKER on google or wikipedia.
electrolysis or HEAT will free up the hydrogen in H20
exhaust heat is a wasted energy currently by global auto manufacturers but GEET and SPAD technology uses it to produce hydrogen as a fuel additive
HOT engines need COOLING .
use the heat instead or experiment with a hho unit.
modern engines are FAR from efficient in every instance
WHAT is a CATALYTIC CONVERTER? a fuel waster. It just burns the toxic atoms of fuel to stop the emissions
neiallswheel 7 months ago
@neiallswheel "HEAT will free up the hydrogen in H2O" ? - Really ? I thought it just made steam.
HHOinfo 7 months ago
@HHOinfo as said look up GAS CRACKER. exhaust temperature 700 degress for example will cause h20 to split. the hydrogen is usable. electrolysis will also split h20.
CRUDE OIL has been treated with ultrasonic cavitation to break down the long chain hydrocarbons to a more easily usable/sellable petrol and diesel ....and hydrogen is used in part of the process to aid it
BIG OIL have been using this for years. better they make money and want to keep it that way.
neiallswheel 7 months ago
@neiallswheel - There is lots of ways to make hydrogen. What is your point ?
HHOinfo 7 months ago
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@neiallswheel
"It just burns the toxic atoms of fuel to stop the emissions"
Toxic Atoms?!?!?!
Keep in mind that power is just energy over time. A marginal improvement of energy over a longer time equates to less power. Modern engines are designed to burn all the fuel, even though this takes more time, thus less power. Even in the late 1980s, engines burnt between 95% to 98% of their fuel. What the engine doesn't burn, the cat does, and you get warned of the cat is burning too much.
MegaVelvetElvis 4 months ago
I don't care what your math says. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, flies like a duck, shits like a duck.........then it must be a duck. If somebody tells me dancing around the car in indian feathers and loin cloth, shaking rattles and chanting, will work. If I try it and it seems to work reapetedly, then I will continue not matter what you say. Telling me it won't work, doesn't work, yet you keep doing it. Do you have a logical reason for me to stop, besides "it won't work"
wcemichael 7 months ago
@wcemichael - Hydrogen gas is highly flammable and will burn in air at a very wide range
of concentrations between 4% and 75% by volume. Below 4% it will not ignite.
HHOinfo 7 months ago
@HHOinfo If all you can do is keep going back to these figures then you've haven't proven anything to me. ANYBODY CAN MAKE AN EXPERIMENT THAT FAILS. I could go out side right now and make a vid proving wood does not burn. People are not going to care.
wcemichael 7 months ago
@HHOinfo Hey thanks for showing pieces of my vid on your home page. Thanks to you more people are finding my vid and giving it a try. You know the reason my unit works on my bike is I was able to free up some the power used and put it in the HHO unit. I've also figures out how to use the leftover energy from the biggest power gulper, being the headlight, and run several units at once with zero resistance and not use and extra bit of power from the bike. but your not interested in data like that
wcemichael 5 months ago
All the information created by NASA ROCKET SCIENTIST said we could create a reusable space shuttle that is practicle and cheaper than using 1 use disposible rockets. we are now retiring the space shuttle because, ONLY AFTER 30 YEARS OF APPLIED USE, we NOW know that the space shuttle is not practical OR chaeper. Lesson 1: even a rocket scientist can be wrong. Lesson 2: the mathamatics of a project doen't compaire to the applied use of that project.
wcemichael 7 months ago
@wcemichael - Hydrogen gas is highly flammable and will burn in air at a very wide range
of concentrations between 4% and 75% by volume. Below 4% it will not ignite.
Well, how big is your engine & what is the volume of Hydrogen used ?
HHOinfo 7 months ago
@wcemichael
" Lesson 1: even a rocket scientist can be wrong"
About economics. In any case, the shuttle was a political choice, not a engineering one. . It was designed with film cameras in mind. Photograph the soviet union, develop the photos, fly down as fast as possible, get them to The Pentagon. Digital photography took a big leap forward, so part of the major design of the shuttle was never used.
MegaVelvetElvis 4 months ago
No matter what I say, you will alway go back to the "ALLWAYS, NO EXEPTIONS" rule so I will not try. Logicaly if one test says one thing and another test says another thing, then one test is faulty. I approached HHO with an open mind, tried it on 3 different vehicles, in each case, gas milage was improved. This has been repeated & confirmed. I am even running my non-ethinal truck on ethinal. saying it doesn't won't make it stop. So I call & raise the steaks. Come here & prove MY units don't work!
wcemichael 7 months ago
the power of money has overcome the power of logic. I could give a RATS ASS ABOUT, WHAT YOU THINK . I WILL NOT GIVE YOU INFO ON ANYTHING . your mind is made up and I dont care enough to teach you. STAY ignorant, I dont care
uawwildbob 8 months ago
@uawwildbob - Why does the truth about HHO bother you so much ? There are ways of making money without ripping people off selling a Scam.
HHOinfo 8 months ago
@HHOinfo
You do not have the truth about HHO. your just spreding lies mixed with truths. you make claims that have no facts . you claim HHO cant increase MPG. HHO is a highly combustable gas . that is a fact you seem to ignor. U dont even use your owm voice in your claims. like I said before I dont care what you think and I just dont need or want prove anything to you or any ignorant person. GO AHEAD AND STAY STUPID . there are scammers, but not all are
uawwildbob 8 months ago
@uawwildbob - Yes HHO will burn, but only in concentrations above 4%.
One alternator can NOT supply enough current to make that 4%.
Instead of just calling me stupid, why don't you do a little homework and DO THE MATH.
HHOinfo 8 months ago
HHOinfo, you are correct if you limit yourself to the laws of nature as interperated by todays academia.
But you are wrong in believing all the crap the professors feed their students. Well it’s only the crap the professors have been feed.
Don't feed yourself that crap sir. Learn the truth.
weslingm 10 months ago
@weslingm - Learning the Laws of Physics is optional, obeying them is not optional.
HHOinfo 10 months ago
@HHOinfo-- When you say it can't be done, you are inferring that you personally know all the laws of physics reguarding HHO production from water. And furthermore, that you personally have exhausted all of these avenues and they are all dead ends.
Because your depth of work in this area is not possible all your statements fall flat on anyone with a brain.
Besides, your are a robot and robots have no original thoughts and
robots memories are programmed by original thinkers.
weslingm 10 months ago
@weslingm Typical HHO'er response, everyone is stupid except you. What you figure if you do enough experiments, and keep trying enough different things, you can somehow get around physics. LOL !!!!
Hope you have lot's to time & Money to throw away.
HHOinfo 10 months ago
@HHOinfo Did your mommy slap you at 2y old and say "you can't do that" Now it's your youtube mission to impose your limitations on others?
Sir, if you think science (on planet earth) as a whole, knows all there is to know about matter and the manipulation of matter. Then I can say without a doubt you are wrong in your assumptions.
weslingm 10 months ago
@weslingm - I am not the one imposing limitations on others. That job is already taken by Physics. I wish it wasn't. I would love it if an electrolyzes devise could make fuel on board a vehicle, even if it just improved MPG. I am all for getting away from fossil fuel BEFORE we run out of it. But, unfortunately, HHO is just a SCAM. And I hate a Scam. I very much dislike people that will stoop that low to sell a Scam. Why do you want to be one of those people ?
HHOinfo 10 months ago
It is REALLY simple.
If this stuff worked, then VW and Toyota and Honda and EVERY OTHER car manufacturer would be putting HHO in their cars, along with every other fuel saving device they have developed that allows cars to go a thousand kilometres on a single tank.
dangerouslytalented 1 year ago
Well, your information is correct, alright.
But don't forget the car it's still ruining on gasoline.
So put that on your math to.
FUEL + HHO and them call it a scam.
PiCoF 1 year ago
@PiCoF - I know how it is claimed to work, too bad the laws of physics won't let it work that way.
You said, "the information is correct" , The information shows quite clearly that adding HHO will not improve MPG. Don't you think it is time to quit beat this dead horse.
HHOinfo 1 year ago
@HHOinfo you think you can slap the laws of physics on this and your automaticaly right ? what a moron. No body is gonna break the laws of physics . If they claIM TO THEY ARE SCAMMERS. there are scammers on both sides of this. and YOU HHOinfo are one of them
uawwildbob 8 months ago
Please...do not confuse me with anyone who gives a flying about anything
you might have to say..
I actually enjoy my high MPG volvo...
If you want to throw rock..fine..I could care less.
but I'll be driving past you at the gas pumps.
goose2goose2 1 year ago
@goose2goose2 - "I'll be driving past you at the gas pumps".
Only once every 2 months.
HHOinfo 1 year ago
@goose2goose2 - The challenge is for you to find mistakes on my web site and e-mail me the proof.
Not for you to advertise your HHO Scam.
Sorry, your HHO Bullshit is not approved.
HHOinfo 1 year ago
fucking troll! lets meet up ! I'll show you my HHO, take you for a ride,
educate you ..so you don't sound so fucking stupid.
goose2goose2 1 year ago
@goose2goose2 - "fucking troll!" - and your going to educate ME.
Why should we expect anything less from a SELLER of the HHO SCAM.
You claim your devices gets a "40%+Mileage Increase" It only takes 25% increase to win $1,000,000.00 from James Randi, not to mention the "Nobel Prize" another cool million.
I think your the troll, advertising your HHO Scam. Your just stealing money from uninformed people that can least afford it.
HHOinfo 1 year ago
Guess what there is a new Bubble Boy in town for a good laugh checkout HybridWaterMan2's Channel
ke4uyp 1 year ago
Well Schmuck you got my web page disabled for 3 or 4 days, Hope it was worth it.
You may be able to bully others, But I don't take well to being bullied. And I have found others here on youtube that don't like it ether.
HHOinfo 1 year ago
It has been exactly 30 days since I put up this video.
Not one e-mail, none, zero, zilch.
You would think with all the information I have put up, I would have made at least 1 mistake.
HHOinfo 2 years ago
I'm stepping up to the plate and stating that I experiment with HHO cells for vehicles and home heating because I'm sick and tired of the huge amounts of pollution created from fossil fuels ...vehicles that run on HHO cells alone and magnetic propulsion engines = no pollution , so please wake up and create something beneficial for our world rather than putting down those that are at least trying to create a better world, FREE ENERGY FOREVER, ... my facts you wrkpehbvg
SuperChromer1 2 years ago
@SuperChromer. So this is your puppet account for Who ?
Account is 5 days old, Watched 7 videos, mostly on free energy and overunity, and commented on all of them. Tells me your just a troll.
There is no Free Energy.
Vehicles will not run on HHO cells alone.
No magnetic propulsion engines
No over-unity.
And you want ME to wake up. Sheeh.
HHOinfo 2 years ago
@SuperChromer1 It is time for a reality check there are several different ways to measure the energy output of the internal combustion engine horsepower, BTU and finally kilowatt hour.
A 200 horsepower engine is = to 149.1 kilowatt hour if you want to reduced your gas consumption by 10 % and replace it with HHO you would need an HHO output of 14.910 kilowatts.
ke4uyp 2 years ago
@SuperChromer1 OK let's say that you have a power source capable of delivering 300V X 49.7A = 14.910 kilowatts then and only then could you accomplish this. But where does the energy come from to produce the 14.910 kilowatts?
ke4uyp 2 years ago
That strange. After 2 week, not one single HHO believer has managed to provide any evidence for his or her HHO cult beliefs.
NotSoOldHippy 2 years ago
Well they keep trying to pawn off there beliefs. That's it.
Just the stuff they were told to believe. No facts.
It has been 2 weeks now, Not one single e-mail from anyone to point out any mistake on the web site. Guess that tells me what I wanted to know.
HHOinfo 2 years ago
Good site!
windaddiction 2 years ago
Good site! I professor once told me if you cant put it into numbers and calculations then it can not be proved true, i think that is the major problem with a lot of HHO believers, they do not know the math to prove it can not be done!
windaddiction 2 years ago
Funny how not a single HHO cultist ever manages to address the actual facts.
NotSoOldHippy 2 years ago
They keep telling me my information is Wrong, But Not One,
will tell me Exactly what is wrong.
My e-mail box is still empty. Still Waiting.
HHOinfo 2 years ago
My e-mail box is still empty. I am still waiting.
HHOinfo 2 years ago
I thought I made it very clear the purpose of this video. It is Not to have a debate about if hho works. I have already proven it does not on the web site. Unless the laws of the Universe has a coo or it is discovered the math has changed so 2+2 does not = 4 or there is an error in the information provided on the web site.
I am still waiting for someone to prove there is an error.
HHOinfo 2 years ago
NASA has never claimed these devices work; the cult retards who claim otherwise are lying. The NASA document these cult nuts claim supports their extraordinary claims does not do so: the cult clowns just hope people don't actually read the document.
Desertphile 2 years ago
Ah, that has nothing at all to do with "HHO" nor the on-demand idiot devices that this channel, and many of my videos, debunked and refuted--- and you damn well know it. That's the best you cult retards can do: swap the subject and hope nobody notices.
Desertphile 2 years ago
BlackDogSociety: Thank You I will research the links to MIT that you provided.
The first page says, They hope their engine can be road-tested in cars within a year or two.
That was dated 2003.
The plasmatron would convert about a third of a vehicles gasoline stream into hydrogen.
Again Not HHO.
HHOinfo 2 years ago
These gadgets that break water down into hydrogen and oxygen always appear to work because they are getting energy from the battery for the electrolysis. But they can't work because they violate physics. It's a scam.
Ebal the Atheist
ebaltrace 2 years ago
I like how clear and precise your information is. You present an excellent resource to anyone interested in this subject. Fantastic job.
jupy921 2 years ago