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  • I hate to be disparaging, but if this is supposed to be an example of real kenjutsu, both of you have left your legs unguarded, and I saw no attempt to attack them. You are still using the snap type of shots typically used in kendo instead of the fully commited cuts that are necessary to truly cut an opponent. Also, the style of movement used is also the typical stagger step of kendo as opposed to the yin yang form of movement nornally done in kenjutsu.

  • Looks more like kenjutsu pratice than kendo...

  • they were so fast,how do we see if they scored?

  • You wear white to show off your rank? After 9 years you have a rank worthy of recognition? What the fuck are you going on about?

    I've been doing kendo since age 8 (9 years) I'm sandan and I'm gonna tell you now, that's fake kendo. It's total shit and there's no explaining it away.

    I would have been lucky NOT to see this.

  • I have been doing Kendo for about 2 years and as far as kenjutsu goes I was doing katori shinto ryu for about 5 years. you shouldnt let your sensi lead you to beleave that this is a true art. With things being how they are today I am sure you can find a dojo close to you. no mater if it is kenjutsu, iaido, or kendo. The basics will be the same and thats what you guys seem to need are some good basics. Maybe your sensi will follow you.

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  • I like the the fact that half of the people that complain about these videos have only half of the ego they prude to the world.

  • this is crap

  • kendo vs kendo is a tad boring, take the armor off and use some othe techniques too! give us all a good show!

  • haha look at that jump 1:18

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  • Racket ball court! :D Kenjutsu style? :D Wearing white to show his rank?!?! :D:D:D What is this stuff???

  • wow u beat ur sempai !!!?!??!?!

  • can someone score apoint before i kill myself.

  • just wondering but are you doing this in a racket ball court?

  • monkey with stick

  • I liked it.

  • awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Oh, wow. That was fast. It was hard to keep up until you slowed it down at the end.

  • To the people posting rude comments you show great disrespect to other people who are trying to keep the martial art alive... Its quite ludacris to say who should beat another or whom is better if you were great you'd say "I know nothing" instead of acting like a master. Those of you out there drop your swords please. keep at it man I want to see how you've grown =)

  • the guy in the white must be a newb

  • as a serious practitioner of kendo and Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu, I am very much offended by this garbage. If you have been learning this...thing for years then I feel very bad for you.

  • this vid is terrible

  • wtf this is not niten

    in niten you have two bokken a long and a short sword plus you dont wear kendo gear because it is not kendo

  • Hyōhō Niten Ichi-ryū can use one sword or two so stfu noob

  • This is true, however, this is definitely not Hyōhō Niten Ichi-ryū.

  • Hello (wave)

    Congratulations! You just spent 9 years doing bulls**t ^_^

    I hope you are all cuddly and happy now. Have a nice day

  • bullshit? how is that bullshit dumb bitch

  • Wow... So this is "REAL KENDO".. WHY THANK YOU... I have been completely enlightened from what I always thought was kendo by your awesome "real kendo"! THANK YOU SO MUCH!...

    In case you didn't catch the sarcasm oozing off that, you guys need to go find a real dojo.

  • why did you post this again?

    you actually thought this was a GOOD video?

    9 years.. my ass...

  • Well yeah... because YOU can actually do better.

  • you can see the difference if you watch real Japanese sensei doing it, this is completely off the mark.

  • Understand that the kenshi that are posting and ridiculing this as nonsense are (in a not so obvious way) trying to help you. If you guys are passionate about swordsmanship, please please please don't waste time learning this.

  • im sorry but i have to call this out= even if this is kenjutsu, the basics are still same as kendo- good fight but it really doesnt have the feeling of a swordfight in it and your forms all screwed up

  • HAHAHA!!!!! GLORIOUS!!!! LOOK AT THE HIMO!!!!

    Why do people do this?

  • Yes I really am.

  • This is bollocks...

  • and what are ya, jedi master?

  • well i just figure if you can kick their ass with a shinai you can do it with a sword. because the way these guys are fighting they wouldnt be likely to even touch a good kendoka.

  • Not entirely true. Kendoka's are also called "Shinai Warriors" because they only have to hit with the shinai. Making a straight cut with a katana is more than hitting someone on the hands, head, shoulders or stomach.

  • in the end what i do know is that these guys are kinda clueless, as i would beat them and some kendoka i know would uterly destroy them. they arent even holding the sword corectly i can see that right thru their kote.

  • Hmm, no clue about the way they hold their shinai since I am not a kendoka but a iaidoka, but I guess you would be right about that.

  • yeah, it takes a while for some people to get everyone learns at their own pase but you defenetly dont put on bogu till you get it.

  • i dont think either of these guys actualy knows kendo

  • these guys are flailing around like amatures its rather pathetic

  • I can't agree that Kendo is not a pure 'sport'. kendo is half sport and half martial arts base. Kendo has the concept and spirit of warrior. I also cannot see how you express what kenjutsu is. If you are expressing kenjutsu, i believe you can punch or kick your partner because it is about live or death. why don't you use the topic like niten kenjutsu instead of niten Kendo sparring kenjutsu. do u really know what is kenjutsu.

  • I was under the impression that kenjutsu was the Nipponese martial art dealing with the use of the sword (nodachi), although many kenjutsu schools also practiced techniques with the jitte, bo, and 'empty-hand' techniques, including karate.

    I could be wrong, but that is how I understand it. And you are correct, in true kenjutsu you would have to be capable of using every weapon at your disposal, just as we soldiers today are required to learn how to use every weapon available to us. God bless.

  • do you

  • yep, or i realy couldnt say could i.

  • looks like medieval style with knights, vikings and barbarians..go check it out on youtube

  • Everybody keeps arguin' about styles. It's like what my homie Huo Yuanjia said, "All Wushu is the same my niggas. It's all about your own individual skill."

  • WTF is this looooool, its just a shame.

    They think they practice kendo or sword way????

    Just a shame, come here and ill show you how i will break you with a shinai.

    Stupud american

  • you wish you could move half that fast punk

  • are you kidding me of this nidan fight, they have forgotten one of the most important thing - fumi-komi. i doubt that how they passed shodan. there is no ippon in this fight.

  • I think it was already established that this was not meant as the sport of kendo. It was training kenjutsu in kendo equipment. As I seem to recall reading from others who are experienced in formal kendo, getting whacked by a shinai hurts like hell, so if you are not in a match, but rather looking to test the techniques of kenjutsu with shinai, it makes sense to have protection, doesn't it? God bless.

  • Musashi lol.... i was looking to buy a Katana to day and i found a website thats praticly dedicated to him lool.and if u dont know how to do anything in the art u cant teachyourself.

  • Musashi pwned every dueler he battled.

  • denng thats legit riite there.. sikk

  • was thinkin of startin up swordsmanship,wat would be a good style for a starter?

  • any martial art style in general is fine for a beginner.

    I can't think of a single place I have ever heard of where they required experience before you joined.

    I would be less concerned with style and more concerned with finding a good instructor.

  • Kime, you also need Kime...u.u

  • haha!!!"Hit me up if you thnki i am so easy"?!. MAN I LOVE YOURE STYLE x3!! I will honored if i could just fight with you when I become more skillfull swordman x3!! wHAAA how old are u anyway =o?! (the time pass quick!! and im only 18 years old XD!!!)

  • I just want every1 too know that i learned that myu school was a fake and I left there and taught myself. to prove it I want to compete in a real swordmanship competition be it kendo or other. Hit me up if you thnki i am so easy.

  • You taught yourself?

    Says it all really doesn't it!

  • I'm not sure if that is a good idea.

    I assume that there was some sort of debate here about how your style was illegitimate, and I wasn't around here for it so I can't comment. Regardless, it is not a good idea for someone who has not learned proper fighting techniques from a legitimate instructor to branch off and teach him or herself.

  • Uh, you guys are giving him crap for taching himself?, what did Musashi do?

  • Ahh! So I'm not the only one to use a squash court on occasion, but you do get some strange looks from the squash people when you come out with a Sword!

  • "be lucky if you see." don't mock me yea i saw, i saw how easy your stance was broken

  • HNIR ? hahaha man, this is just bs. maybe your sempai is friend of jorge kishikawa, the legendary liar of HNIR

  • did the guy in blue leap into the air?

  • well , this kenjutsu ,not kendo, arent same...

  • yes there are jackass. Kendo is the sport that evolved from kenjutsu. and this is kendo(sport) sparring.

  • umm , you must see the cuts to see the diference. the niten institute is a formal ryu,and this`nt kendo. is kenjutsu.

  • wat the hell is this, no fumikomi ashi, no ki-ken-tai icchi, absolutely horrendous posture, not to mention all the jumping around..... none of those hits would've counted as a point in a match

  • I bet they are also very good at racket ball.

  • i wish there was Niten school here in nyc.

  • i didnt see any fumikomi

  • Is this in a raquetball court??

  • Its not Kenjutsu. And this is a competition where killing has nothing to do with it.

    And does it seem like that bamboo sword can cut? No. 5 years of whatever you learned was pretty much wasted if your intentions were to kill.

  • every time I watch this... it just gets funnyer

  • You know your grip needs work!

  • is this real kenjutsu? all i'm seeing is stick fighting between two people who uses their arms too much. you can't cut through bone unless you use your body. just an observation from a 5 year kendoka.

  • that's not kenjutsu, it's kendo, look at the title

  • Read the video description...

  • Nice job to the both of you. I have only practiced sport kendo and its nice to see something differant. and nice try on the leg sweep btw =P

  • the only problem with shinai is that sometimes the sounds are familiar when hitting skin compared to the other shinai... I prefer bokken but good job none the less =)

  • I like this, at some points you can see them trying to use there hands to disarm the other. GJ.

  • i study these fighting arts and i must say this is the real deal theres no stupid running ape shit and screaming this is the good cuz they actually fight and not run away

  • to the people that have something bad to say about this vid, why dont you don the armor and try it out. im sure you will have your ass handed to you quickly.

  • *Sigh* People should honestly find more of a purpose in life then to insult video's. Either way; I really enjoyed the sparring. Good technique.

  • this si sick to watch. u gusy are actually lookin cool not just swinging at each other going ape shit crazy

  • I know this school...its its jedi fighteru ichi ryu...

  • this is bullshit

  • omg! another tosser!

  • well, if u fight whit the purpouse of killing each other this video its ok, but i dont like the movements and also the body stand of these guys, is just not beautiful

  • the most beautiful kendo fight seen by now

  • I would like to see Musashi´s face looking from above this two clowns!

  • Looks like a piniata party!!! both should go back to play squash or find a real Kendo sensei, 400-500 years of kendo legacy cant be thrown away in a pathetic squash room!!!

  • Utter nonesense.

    The sad fact is people get easily fooled when it comes to martial arts, not only that they believe the lie and defend it fanaticly.

  • The guy in white performs a very nice fake at 1.05; faking a Men but going for a Kote after.

  • too bad it's the wrong side.

  • Ha! I didn't notice that...

    You actually can strike at the left wrist, but it would be done just as he has done here; Faking the Men (so the other guy will try to cover it and make his left wrist vulnerable) and then striking.

  • Where was the NiTen?

  • usually..... white gi are for guys with no rank....

  • This is about club level kendo! It is not up to the standards of championship kendo really. But given the amount of pure kendo stuff here on youtube it will do.

  • this kendo is pathetic, they take their hands off the tsukagawa and try to grab eachothers shinai, can u say penalty? This is pathetic, they just go at it, no clear mind, and no concentration. embarrasing

  • wow this is fake. its almost insulting to people who actually do kendo. you win by not continuously hitting the other person. two clean shots can end the match

  • wow. . u look pretty good. its just that comparing the stance of both of you, you look scared of him. Your body language kinda shows your really nervous and apprehensive.

  • this is not real kendo. this is fake .

  • wow you could really use a lot more practice

  • I NEED HELP!!!...you guys...i need help...what''s the difference between aikido, kendo, and fencing??but i know a little sometin about fencing though

  • HI, i am kendoka from spain and my english is very very bad XD lol, de basic diference is the cain of sword used, in fencing you use an europen sword, in kendo the shinai (is a bambu swor that is smilar to a katana) aikido its only an art marcial, in aikido you can use a boken, a boken is a catana made of wood, ina ikido you fight in closo combat whitout sowrds, an you learn how to defend all the atacs you recibe, aikido is a defensicve and paceful marcial art.

  • hohoho, you've got skilssssss!

  • Nice video. I wanna get into Kendo sometime.

  • Excellent technique...but I am sorry to say that I honestly don't know if you truly have great technique or not...I've never studied Kendo (I would like too, but there are no Kendo schools in my area)...

  • I feel so lucky to see this. nine years down the drain, by the way.

  • cool

  • Great job, and don't sweat the negative comments. People abuse the freedom from accountability this format offers. If they were genuine students of any art, they would have no reason to disrespect your efforts to learn and grow.

  • your good

  • the samurais had white clothes before and in the battle if they were sure to die...

  • Great Video! I'm planning to start doing Kendo myself, and vids like this help keep the motivation up : )

  • hahaaahaha  lol lol

  • hyoho niten ichi ryu is 2 sword style

    but kickass u guys look pretty skilled

    ive been into kenjutsu since i was six

    fun shit

  • Musashi never specifically named Niten Ichi Ryu as literally a two-sword style exclusively. The name speaks toward versatility and commitment, not necessarily the literal using of two weapons. At least, that's my understanding of it.

  • ...

  • omg.... they don't really expect us to believe that that's legit, do they?

  • That was definitely: WOW!

  • uhhhh... white clothes have nothing to do with rank.. originally they were worn by women but after some years men used them too

  • I thought Niten Ichi Ryu of Miyamoto Musashi was specificaly his techniques for using two swords? Or no?

  • Double sword technique is what they're most famous for, but daito, shoto and bo techniques are also in the curriculum.

  • it was fun to watch...thats about all i can say...

  • loooooool

  • 1. the grip is wrong

    2. The rei is wrong

    3. The shinai action is ineffective

    4. The tai sabakis wrong.

    5. The men are tied incorrectly

    I'd expect more after 9 yrs.

    btw it's senpai not sempi.

  • typo ^^

    I sooo wanna learn kendo ;-; the nearest club is an hour away

  • And finally he claims to practice the Niten Ichi Ryu of Miyamoto Musashi. As far as I know Niten ichi Ru is practiced only one place in North America, and that's at the University of Guelph in Canada and taught by Kim Taylor. I have not had he honor of meeting Mr. Taylor, but I have seen pictures and this guy does no look like him.

  • Response to KeijiMaeda86: First of all there is no such thing as "sports Kendo". Modern Kendo has some sporting aspects but it is first and foremost budo. Second, I have watched this individuals other videos where he claims to be practicing Iaido, which apparently have been removed. Its clear, if you know anything about Japanese sword arts, that this man is a fraud.

  • I hope everybody knows that the guy acting as the "referee" is a fraud and as such, what these two are doing is also a sham.

  • Sword fight... indeed... an european fight you mean

  • Did ANY of you at all read the description of the video? He specifically says that it is NOT sports kendo, which is what most of you complaining are accostumed to seeing. I consider this to be more legitimate of simulation of a real sword fight. They never stop or other such crap. And in the later half of the video it shows in slow down the body hits and good points. People you should seriously read descriptions before running your filthy mouths.

  • First of all there is no such thing as "sports Kendo". Modern Kendo has some sporting aspects but it is first and foremost budo. Second, I have watched this individuals other videos where he claims to be practicing Iaido, which apparently have been removed. Its clear, if you know anything about Japanese sword arts, that this man is a fraud.

  • And finally he claims to practice the Niten Ichi Ryu of Miyamoto Musashi. As far as I know Niten ichi Ru is practiced only one place in North America, and that's at the University of Guelph in Canada and taught by Kim Taylor. I have not had he honor of meeting Mr. Taylor, but I have seen pictures and this guy does no look like him.

  • BTW this is not real kendo. You guys are swinging wildly, have no seme or even basic techniques. I am a Nidan in kendo. You do not wear a color to show rank!!! Also, kendo is not that rare, considering at tournaments in the southeast we have had over 200 people. Get your stuff straight! If you could please tell me where you practice and I will gladly come show you kendo.

  • This has got to be the worst thing I have ever seen. I have practiced Kendo for seven years. Monkeys can swing shinai too, that doesnt make them good practitioners. Also, What is with the "sensi" (I guess sensei???) banging his shinai on the other ones before the match? Please remove these videos as it makes the rest of us who wear bogu look bad. As for the students in the video, for your own sake, find a real teacher, he needs to be either banned from teaching or at least reported to the AUSKF.

  • u suck...

  • this is horrible.

  • I love how ignorant people with little to no training post comments like they know what they are talking about, or as if they have the knowledge that makes them superior to all others.

  • please delete this fucking video, it's disgraceful

  • trumpetman01. If you are a budo man, you are a poor reflection of your lineage. You should be ashamed of your course comment.

    Rei = etiquette, courtesy, civility

    Jin = humanity, charity, benevolence

    I get what you guys say about technical aspects, but you all must be sleeping during your education re:character. They may be poor technician's (I don't know). But you fellows have poor character...and they can train.

  • kendo in a raquetball court.. what shame... sigh

  • Yeah, most takai are in basketball courts. So a raquetball court is really odd. Or, maybe it serves their purpose and they don't seek out anything else.

    Snob.

  • woah woah woah, dude, calm down, i was just saying its a general shame that kendo is practiced on raquetball courts or bastketball courts. not like a dishonor shame, but like a pity, style shame. it ought to be done in proper halls. i guess i forgot to put the "a" after what and before shame.

  • Agreed. It would be great if Kendo caught on as well as say, cheerleading, and function-specific dojo would start popping up. Snob-comment retracted. Happy training.

  • these guys have to be first year kenshi...practice more boys.

  • In Niten they are surely the best ones as this is the Institute's kenshis (sorry, samurais... :þ) levels.

    Their main instructor is Miyamoto Musashi, beleave!!!

  • I'm not sure what they're doing, but it's difficult to guage skill level without gearing up in front of a guy. They're setting up with their shinais on the wrong side which leaves kote open for easy attack. They may be highly skilled fighters but my impression is that they are not properly instructed.

  • These guys suck. It is embarassing that they posted this online. Who's the "master" with the goofy Tommy Bahama shirt?

  • Pwned :P

  • One of the problem of "this kind of fighting" is they need to be very "circular" to be attractive and spectacular. But these movements are too long, takes too much time (in spite of you could think watching this) and they allow tons of chances to be cut. They don't counter attack, just blocking, go back and launching hits. I would like to fence with one of this guys. Just to know their and my effectiveness. Maybe I am wrong and they are right, who knows, but a good kote-men could works

  • They actually do have several "counter attacks" btw but anyway if you fought them fencing it's a no-brainer you would win (assuming you had arms and could hold a sword) in fencing the sword is so weak you can fling it all you want .

  • i still thought it was gud?

  • he did THIS for nine years?

    OMFGWTFHAXBBQ

  • Oh, dear. You're getting ripped off. I hope you can get your money back.

    All I see is arm and no body in the strikes...

  • this sucks

  • isnt reall kendo called budo kendo where it actually uses the punching sweeping and everythin?

  • hmm this is not kendo, there is not even ki ken tai...

  • bachleelhcab, you talk a lot of shit about americans for someone who is from a country that lets women in its infantry. dont lecture us on "warrior-ness" you thick fuck.

  • krajjankxmar, you're a fucking idiot. what the hell are your stated conditions? that projectile weapons armed men are bound by rope?

  • the sensai doesnt seem that good maybe its because i dont know kendo but some of those strikes would of killed him

  • Because we have all witnessed small arms combat, whether on the news, movies or in real life, so we know that works based on observation. The effectiveness of sword dueling against semi-automatic pistols, rifles and rocket propelled grenades remains to be seen.