Seidokaikan vs world Oyama 1991 challenge

[MikeKSG]

seidokaikan?? I fought I knew all kinds of material arts....and now I saw sidokaikan:)

[rotarymenace]

@MikeKSG seido

kaikan is a branch off kyokushin. seido kaikan started k1

[MikeKSG]

@rotarymenace What are the differences??

[rotarymenace]

@MikeKSG I know that the biggest difference is the director or the person who is in charge of the organization. I learned that in seidokaikan or shidokaikan, there is no kata. But I maybe wrong on that.

[kolsyrade]

@rotarymenace. Sorry but Seidokan and shidokan both have traditional kata. fewer than kyokushin, but they still have them.

If you watch my vid "Seidokaikan Karate demo by Nobuaki Kakuda" you get to see Kakuda do a seidokan kata at a demo (apparently they reserve trad kata training for advanced grades, so lower grades seldom do them), and if you look up youtube user shidopanther, he has several videos where he shows shidokan kata (they teach trad kata from beginner grades and on).

[rotarymenace]

@kolsyrade thats good, because the more i learn katas, i feel it makes more sense when u are advanced. i have been training in iko1 for a little more than 5 years. and i appreciate katas more now ;)

[MikeKSG]

@rotarymenace Thanks.

[dokokai]

@StormOfClouds The reason Kyokushin came into existence is because it's founder, Mas Oyama (who was a trained black belt in Shotokan, Goju & Judo), discovered that the traditional techniques were not effective when applied in a full contact, bare knuckle, realistic application. So he threw out all those tradtional techniques that didn't work and was left with basically a refined form of fist fighting along with some joint locks, takedowns & judo throws... the creation of Kyokushin.

[Shmalentine]

I didn't know Kimbo Slice started out in Kyokushin. :))))

[Chocho5983]

great manly fight lots of power and strenght Osu!

[nemesleo]

¿ Y le llaman karate a eso ? ¿Dònde està la tecnica?¿Para eso entrenaron màs de 5 años y obtuvieron cinta negra? Creo que perdieron su tiempo,

[hitman007Japan]

ウイリィーキャラいいな。

[Lionsblood]

He's just attacking his legs man. I know that if I were Willy I'd be pissed off LoL.

[CTuxford]

I'm glad things have moved on since then. What a meat--fest. Distancing was all crap for kicking and the no head punching allows for the endless body-shots with hands at super-short range. I can appreciate the toughness of the fighters, but strategy was pretty non-existant. Hit, hit , hit, then hit some more until the fittest toughest guy wins. Yawn.

[dokokai]

@CTuxford Matches are only 3 minutes with (2) one minute overtime extensions if needed. There is very little time to create perfect distancing when the goal is a KO or Knockdown to get the win so it's usually full steam ahead. This was a special event that had individual match ups but a in a regular knockdown tournament the fighters would fight several rounds with different opponents if they advance each round. It's a test of skill, will & endurance.Bare knuckle drains your energy.Give it a try.

[dokokai]

@CTuxford Kicking at close & far distance is common in Kyokushin. And Saatake (Japanese guy) was fighting a world class Kyokushin fighter (Willie Williams) with 20 years of full contact fighting experience already behind him. So he was no easy opponent to beat... even at the age of 40 (which is usually past retirement age for pro fighters).

[WildDanHibiki]

geez louise did his teeth get knocked out at the end?

[deadred18]

what is wrong with you @blugularis, U cant call japanese people weak, with shit fighting style when martial arts that they created have spread world wide and takken over most martial arts competitions. any mma or ufc fighter that is near the top uses like jujitsu which is japanese 

[OhNoPaypal]

So this is how K1 started. Interesting.

[sapporo01]

Yes, he is in the movie..

Also his instructors in the movie too.

That fight event was beginning of K-1...

Who knows that? Most of you are don't know anything about k1history..

[Kinghercules]

Itsnt that the Black guy in Fighting Black Kings?

[blugularis]

@Kinghercules yes, he is Willie Williams trained in NYC, with Oyama, under Kyokushin-kai school, then Shigeru Oyama broke from Mas Oyama (no relation).

[osensei2987]

So many stripes, so little talent. Knock down tournaments like this reduce karate to slop! Willie's had no cardio! He was basically just one big makiwara. His sheer size is what kept him in the match till the finish. If Willie's opponent had a decent jodan mawashi geri the Willie would've been knocked out! HAHAHA!

[blugularis]

@osensei2987 Willie has more cardio than you ever dreamed of, try entering the Kyokushin-kai open. His opponent had masterful Jodan Mawashi, but Willie's use of Maei and blocking made it so he didn't score. I would love to see you try to Jodan Mawashi Willie Williams so you could shut that big trap mouth of yours while you are sucking for air!

[osensei2987]

@blugularis First of all, I would never step in the ring in the first place w/o being in tip top shape. So u can just STFU! Secondly, KK rules are BS! I would never enter in such a tournament were the rules are rigged in favor of a bunch of fucking JAPS that can't fight worth shit! Let them come into my world so can jab,cross and hook their asses to death. Let's see if they can stay inside and pound away when their eyes are cut, jaws and noses are broken and they're bleeding everywhere!

[osensei2987]

@blugularis Show me a venue anywhere in the world where you see a fucking JAP in the finals! Only in Japan! And only w/ bullshit rules! No face punches allowed and bullshit like that! Then they come up w/ a bunch of fucking excuses for not allowing face punches! Oh, "It's too dangerous, too many injuries because of bare knuckles!". Well put on some gloves mofo! Oh, "Gloves are not realistic enough!". One excuse after the next! Fact is face punches = JAPS eliminated! That's the real reason!

[hondaefsd]

@osensei2987. I ran out room I can fill the whole page your a racist and you full of shit

[DOPTAGUI]

williams style's bullshyt no skills

[ejay1957]

Yes you are so right kolsyrade but what is not spoken of is that Sensei was in a car accident shortly before the challenge took place and was still able to do as well as he did. Yes he was well past his prime as a fighter but as a person I found him to be a gentle and kind man who cared deeply for others as all Karate practitioners seek for their lives.

[moomyskim69]

Cause if punches to faces were allowed KOs will be too fast.

Principle here is SPIRIT, PURE RESISTANCE of the Body. Seeing whos got the iron Body.

Yes kicks are allowed but its harder to put them on faces then punches.

As u can see even with kicks this Fight took like 7 min Bro!!!!!

Imagine Punches on your Body for 7 mins!!!!!

TRUE SPIRIT!!!

OSU!!!!!!

XD

[fussellmuscle]

Why is a kick to the face O.K., but a punch no?!?! The asian guy would have been KTFO when threw those leg kicks,a nd kept getting punched hat heads shots been allowed.

[DrainExpress]

fussellmuscle,

because it is very easy to land a punch to the face - this does not require that much skill anyway.

Had the bare - fisted punches to the face been allowed the fight would last probably only a few seconds and there would be nothing to watch. There would be no show...

[Ruben1994OL]

@DrainExpress

The reason I heard was that it was too dangerous to be exposed to barefisted punching over a long time and sometimes the outcome was fatal, so they had to do SOMETHING to make it safer, but just as "hardcore" as it was, so they didn't want gloves or protective gear. They just killed the facepunching.

[fussellmuscle]

@DrainExpress A punch to the face doesn't take much skill???? You're a idiot. A punch to the face is the easiest to dodge, making it harder to land. The body is a much bigger target, and you can't move it as quickly.

Shop around, and purchase a clue

[edlo123]

most people in a street fight get suckered punched in the face. happens all the time. and when it is a martial artist that gets suckered punched, his ego, and technigues go right out the window. and then the fight winds up on the floor.

[osensei2987]

@DrainExpress U can look long and hard and u will be hard pressed to find an Asian in martial artist that holds any type of championship on a professional level. To be perfectly fair u have to give respect to guys like Sakuraba, and Cung Le and Paquioa. Those guys are the exceptions. The moment u hit most Asian fighters in the face it's over man! The Japanese being the nationalistic assholes that they are cannot stomach karate w/o Japanese on top. That's why face punches aren't allowed!

[hondaefsd]

@osensei2987. your full of shit any one of these guy would drop you with a body shot even if they let you punch the face and couldn't if you don't like the rules then why are you watching this and there's alot of asian fighters a the top level in kickboxing mma and boxing nonito. Hioki hatsu. Pacqiuao. Toshiak nishioka yoshihiro kamegai yuya yamamoto. Buakaw masato machida aoki. Kameda. Brothers. Okami. Mizugaki. Hiroyuki takeya. Daisuke. Naito. Hozumi hasegawa. Half of the fighters in k1 max

[DrainExpress]

fussellmuscle, you should have posted your opinion calling me an "idiot" publicly, not sending it to my inbox. Let's share it with everyone.

Actually, it's not my original opinion but something I learned from my sensei who just happens to be 4th dan in kyokushin.I am 3rd kyu.

Since you say you have problems with landing a fast punch to the face you are obviously not a fighter.

May I suggest you get back back to your native environment - video games in the basement. Stop talking.

[neijiaboy]

I think the Japanese guy has more refined technique whereas the American guy is just bigger. Big disadvantage for the Japanese when you're practicing a style that has filtered out lots of the more effective moves and is only limited to a few moves tailored for competition only.

I think it would make more sense to just wear full protection and go back to the more traditional styles like Okinawan Karate.

[hwangsutran]

true, i like the japanese guy better

[psychedashell]

@neijiaboy Some do. They call it an animal day.

[BadBlueBoy213]

willie's technique sucks, he's just strong and tall

[MissionMartialArts]

Wow, Willy is really working that triangle punch

[cumanagoto]

Great fight! Willy Williams along with William Oliver (RIP) was one of the first legends of Kyokushinkaikan in the USA.

[Dlaeoqls]

hollyfield's here.

[albcorason]

my opinion, the most efective way to win a fight is to be simple and direct, we see many fights with great fighters they hit and kick each other for a very long time, now they can put a man to the ground with one fist or kick, but that never happens cause they spread their energy into a long fight, instead in very short simple direct and strong ones

[aiyer1989]

Dissapitation. If you do not have enough strength to direct the force, the power just dissapitates. Imagine a heavy block of foam coming at you at high speed. The force of it would be big but it wouldn't deal a lot of damage. The same happens with a punch that doesn't hold strength.

Another similarity would be a whip and a bat hitting you with the same force. The whip would deal much less damage as the force dissapitates.

And yes, as an engineering student I have taken physics.

[aiyer1989]

Honnestly, I think you need to go train a lot more instead of believing in myths.

While theoretically it would be possible to kill someone with one blow or kick, that really doesn't happen in reality.

Secondly, all martial arts demand physical strength. Without strength, a punch or kick is useless.

Thirdly, if you only practice kata, kihon and kihon kumité, you'll be lost the first time you have to fight or even really spar as you are in no way prepared for the unpredictabilty of a fight.

[dobermannbrother]

You think,that is so easy to kill with one blow??? :))

I tell you a secret... EVERYTHING depends on your opponent...

Maybe you can take him out with one strike... but it's allso possible that after 3 rounds he'll knock you down cause you made the first mistake in that fight ;)

Think about this...

Osu!!

[laokon]

I think the same, amrtial arts originated (no matter ma from no matter what country) to fight against other warriors when you where weaponless, but on a trained warrior, one blow will not always ensure you a clean victory.

[laokon]

... Yet i don't know if in real combat situation i'll be able to use them in a correct manner.

You mentionned shoalin, but they have a lot of physical exercise before even starting to train tao and technicks.

I hope you can understand what i wanna say.

[laokon]

that's why i precised traditionnal karate, where the emphasis was put mainly on kata and kihon kumite where you hold back and stop after one possibly fatal blow (shotokan, gojuryu, shitoryu, nahate, etc...) not kyokushin, seidokaikan, shidokan, etc..which put the emphasis on fist fighting, power and stamina.

In tradi karate i trained to use my fingers to attacks kyusho, but i alwas had to hold back because it's dangerous....

[laokon]

it's same as in traditionnal karate. I have but one question to that:

If you always hold back, never train to go through with your strike, how can you be effectiv when you need to?

Kind regards

[librexpresion]

the black guy has lost two theet... O_o

[ironham23]

what I don't understand is that people complain about karate is ineffective and that you could just poke a man in the eye in a real fight it is a contest of pride and honor to beat a man fairly is a sign of respect for ones self and the other.

In todays mma it is no longer a contest of the best fighters of their style more of a combination of wrestling and boxing few mma fighters focus purely on their own style but borrow extensively from others

[SamoaOG]

Wow the great kyokushinkai Legend "Man-Mountain" - Willy Williams ( Usa) from the 1975 Strongest Karate ( 1st World Oyama Kyokushin Open Karate Champs in japan.)...

Maasake Satake Seidokankai Legend who beat my stable mate from Fitzroy Stars Gym - Stan Longidines from Australia at the 1st K-1 1993..

....

- I hold a 1st Dan Black Belt Seidokaikan Karate under Sensei Dante Quitadamo 4th Dan ...oshu

[lisberto]

what an ugly fight. both are too bad.

[joyouslife4all]

I love this match!

Satake beat the shit out of akbar!

[laux33]

woaw

[lagook]

need a bas rutten liver punch

dangadadangadadangada

[454545046]

i wouldn't mind competing in this

[delxforce]

The World Oyama branch does have open hand strikes, though I can't speak for kyokushin as a whole. They are allowed to be used in formal sparring exercises, but it really isn't a good idea from a "no injury" standpoint of training to allow their use during free fighting.

[kolsyrade]

you can use open hand techniques in any knockdown karate version. Kyokushin, seidokaikan, enshin, ashihara -whatever.

As long as you dont target forbidden areas in knockdown (face, throat & groin) you can use whatever punch you think you can pull off. And they are formally trained in all the styles.

You dont see them used in competitions very often, but they ARE allowed.

[LoganBruneau]

@delxforce When I fought in Japan my Kyokushin Sensei insisted I use Ippon Ken (One-Knuckle Fist with the middle knuckle protruding.) It is legal and very painful in full-contact bare-knuckle competition, if you can condition your fist and excecute the technique properly.

[elybakod]

in the real world. grapple a person he will poke your eyes out. grapple a person he will break your fingers or he can hit your adams apple. try catching your breath when you get hit there. all these are open hand techniques used in the real world of no holds barred fighting. a fighter is as good as his training but with open hand it will take it to a higher level.

[lagook]

not true

2 street fights i had have ended on the ground

both i ended taking the guys back

both times ended with a rear naked choke

now had i not had grappling they prob would have mounted me both were bigger then me

when you take someones back and they dont know how to defend, not at any time i could have gouged there eyes if i wanted to

im very glad i knew how to grapple more then joe average tho i still am not good at ne waza at al mind you now im older and smart i would have avoid the fight

[elybakod]

it depends how you fight the fight. i have had a few fights myself. never gave them a chance for a takedown or to grapple me. its so tiring. choking and gouging takes time and leverage. i will poke the eyes and an open hand hit on the adams apple respectively.efficient, minimum use of force, quickest way to end the fight. agree its best to avoid a fight and i am old now i know better. when i have to i will end it quick not a young man anymore. no wrestling for me. regards and the best 2 u.

[elybakod]

let me clarify my opinion. mma as a sport is what i meant. combat fighting to me is the answer in the real world. in these tournaments open hand technique is not allowed. it will break and kill. grappling is seldom used in real fights with martial artists. hitting a person in the deadly points is enough. mma as it is known in its form is good with ufc. not in the real world.

[elybakod]

williams was a very good fighter. in this fight if you notice satake landed a lot of punches and a few kicks to his abdomen. it will wear down a good fighter. satake knew how to beat him then. mma? well its nice but its not the answer. real no holds bar fighting has only one result. death. most armies train their commandos in karate or some form not mma. they get the job done. period.

[MMACyborg]

I answered to someone that told that satake is n° 1 Japanese fighter.

(I can agree if he says, 1° japanese striker)..(that not also true!)

But the word fighter, means: "Able to win against anyone other in anyway". That's not true. MMA is the answer !

Where you have striking and grappling skills together. (but do you know something about MMA!?)

[Drewski1316]

Why dont they just put on some gloves and hit each other in the face? it would make the fight alot more interesting and that way you can have knockouts.

[kolsyrade]

Putting on gloves may allow headpunches, but they make bodypunches almost worthless (atleast in comparison to bareknuckle). And putting on boxing gloves makes it more or less into kickboxing.

Anyway, seidokaikan rules says that if there is no winner after 2 extra rounds, they put on boxing gloves and basically start kickboxing. But there are plenty of knockouts in trad knockdown karate.

[psychedashell]

@kolsyrade Most knockdown schools do train with gloves on and off to keep the head defences fast and proper, some even hold internal kickboxing-ish tournaments. But bare-knuckle is where they stand apart so that's where they put the most emphasis.

[blugularis]

seems like he did not do much in low kicks, wonder how come?

[110carp]

SATAKE　is No1 Japanise Fitgter

[MMACyborg]

Hahaha, why you dont take a look of Satake in MMA!?

[KamenHanya]

considering the fact that williams was much past his prime, I'd say he did extremely well and particularly against a fighter such as satake, who at that time, was at the peak of his career. stamina was definitely a factor,but williams is a true legend and he represented.

[hardkicka]

Thank you very much for loading this...great fight and great spirit from the two fighters ! Willie Williams will always be one of the Kyokushin legends!

[PitFighter2007]

i think if the black guy was a little fitter..more stamina he would have done better..

nice upload osu!

[dokokai]

First off...the black guy is Kyokushin Legend Willie Williams. He had great stamina throughout most of the fight especially when you consider he was way past his prime, much older than Satake AND had already been fighting full contact bare knuckle like this for almost 20 years at the time this match occurred.

[thanadap]

Willy williams a legend of the kyokushin (3rd at the 2nd world championship of kyokushinkai after being curiously disqualified at the semi final) nicknamed the bear killer as he was famous in his prime for fighting bare handed against a bear!

He was nearly 40 on this video and fighting a young Satake world champion of seido.

[MoshotheSpear]

Satake was lucky Williams was not in his prime. Shihan Ninomiya, founder of Enshin Karate, sparred with Williams in preparation for the first world tournament. Ninomiya said the Williams punches felt like brick hitting his chest.

[dokokai]

Osu! Very true. Shihan Williams fists were huge... like stones at the end of his wrists. I trained with him in NY years ago.

[urkingod]

Willie did not do anything, just run out of energy, he is much older than satak. But its a good fight to see. Thanks OSU~!

[isao222]

Why don't they hit their faces?

This game isn't practical.

[kolsyrade]

the rules forbids fist and elbows to the head (kicks and knees are allowed).

Is it 100% realistic? no, but then no fightsport allows everything.

Is this more or less "practical" han judo not allowing leglocks? Or boxing not allowing kicks? Or thaiboxing allowing clinch but no headbutts/throws?

Knockdown karate is a sport with rules banning a lot of what is taught in the arts it is based on (kyokushin, seidokaikan, world oyama and others).

All fightsport rules have realism flaws. live with it

[brazilianspiritzz]

You're damn right. I think the best way is to experience different rules. Bare hands but no face as in Kokyusin, and also Kickboxing or boxing with gloves with face punch allowed. It will give you little more realistic practice.

[brazilianspiritzz]

@isao222 it's more practical than gloved sparring. The mechanism of bareknuckle punch is different from that of gloved. No form of any sparring in any martial arts would be 100% practical unless you fight with risk of injury.

[royappa]

Not trying to disrespect but this looks like a joke.. and black guy seems like he has no back ground of martial art.

[chavalote]

The "black guy" is a kyokushin practicioner. See the "dan" lines in his belt.

[old0351]

Very good classic fight! Satake showed why he was the rising star of Seidokaikan. But I have to give credit to Willie Williams. He held his own, considering at the time of the fight he was 40yrs old, while Satake was 25. I tip my hat to both of these legends...OSU!

[Flyingtart]

Why did Oyama make world Oyama karate?

To me the only Oyama karate is kyokushin!

[kolsyrade]

Masutatsu Oyama created kyokushin.

Shigeru oyama created World Oyama karate after he had been expelled from kyokushin.

The stated reason was Shigerus debt and buissness deals with the moon cult (run by Sun Myung Moon) where he provided kyokushin trained body guards, and the negative effect that association had on kyokushin.

The real reason was politics, rivalry and internal power struggles.

[Flyingtart]

Ok thx now I know some history!

Almost the same with IKO 2 when midori betrayed Matsui. But I dont care, Oyama karate was good for the spreading of kyokushin. And Matsui is my kancho. Do you train any type of kyokushin?

[kolsyrade]

yes I do train, under Midori, so I dont take very well to you saying he "betrayed" Matsui. Matsui was asked to step down as kancho (temporarily while they awaited the result of the legal trial over the discrepancies of the will), by a majority of the japanese branchchiefs, headed by Nishida and Sanpei supported by the widow oyama. The split occured when matsui refused to obey their decision.

Midori was not even in any position of leadership in iko2 until about 10 years after the iko1/2 split

[Flyingtart]

Well but many IKO1 guys are upset at the split. Personally, I dont care much. But I read somewere that Matsui won the battle of kyokushin at the court of law. Things like that, when 2 parts cant decide who will get the right of inheritance. I wish that mas Oyama would live forever. Things would be easier then. Sad :(

[kolsyrade]

no he has not won any court case. IKO2 just decided to cut their losses & get out of the whole mess by changing name to WKO, without actually being forced by anyone to do so.

Well, except by the need to profile itself away from the 3-4 other groups using the name, and to get away from the high expenses required to continue the legal battle, I guess.

Shortly after that Masui LOST the courtcase over the copyrights and names against two other kyokushin groups. Last I heard he was appealing it AGAIN

[Flyingtart]

I however dont care much, Midori or matsui... whatever, same karate. Havent even met them so I dont know.

[Flyingtart]

Both Midori and Matsui are great so why cant they just rule together? Thats what I mean. Why mess up and split up and go to court? Peace in world! One kyokushin!

[meoir534]

I believe they all need to go back to the source. Its insulting to me and my art(Kyokushin ) When I dont see the leaders living the kyokushin way. The kyokushin way includes these rule.

The Martial Arts way begins and ends with courtesy. Therefore, be properly and genuinely courteous at all times.

Even for the Martial Artist, the place of money cannot be ignored. Yet one should be careful never to become attached to it.

[meoir534]

Forgive me my comment was out line.

My sincerest apologies.

[boxsterwelby]

this fighting is ridiculous. A boxer with six months experience would neutrilize the american.

[kolsyrade]

different sports, different skills.

Boxers get wasted in knockdown karate, just as knockdown karate fighters get wasted in boxing.

But the american (williams), really should have retired before this fight. He was great in the mid/late 70ies, but by this fight in 91 he was simply not the unstoppable powerhouse he was in 75.

[ambertch]

lol. a boxer with six months experience has barely started sparring yet. At this point someone practicing boxing is probably still closing their eyes when they get hit and shelling up. But then you wouldn't know right? Because you don't box in a real gym.

[boxsterwelby]

Not to be a keyboard fighter, but I do fight competetively, although, I'm not a pro. My point is that the sports where you train for real combat opposed to traditional non scientific training are superior. Mma proved that in the first ufc. And it had been proven in brazil with vale tudo long before that. The brazilians dominated american mma because they already new in the early 90's what worked.

[ahbleza29]

I agree with your point, but than I dont see how it applies to this karate fight. This is real combat, though it has rules (but so has boxing). What I do think is that this particular fight is technically not so high level especially on part of Willy Williams. You might check some more karate fights, search for shinkyokushin or dimitrov, and watch. it will broaden your horizon.

[SwhereNthing]

Believe or not, boxing is nothing against martial arts.

Yeah and that challenge was in the year 1991!

Not nowadays! The rules are different!

[Flyingtart]

A boxer cant fight for real, only for sport.

[goraisan]

That kind of fight takes a lot of strenght and stamina!

[OuterHeavenX]

That was a good fight. Nice and clean.

[blugularis]

Is Willie (New York) go with Shigeru (world) Oyama, or is he Seidokan? He used to be Kyokushin-kai. Does anyone know?

[kolsyrade]

He used to be with Shigeru. But I have no clue about where he is now, or if he still does karate at all.

[michinco]

willie is now living in West Virginia, and he is with the organization called "shihouken" in NY(white plains NY under shihan Sylvester, and shihouken became independent from USA Oyama back in 1997!

Willie still trains, but, haven't seen him since 2001!

I've heard that he is now in W.Virginia!

[DNor3801]

Thanks for this update, how did you hear about this?

[michinco]

I know people on the video.

I know Willie Williams personally, and his sensei, and Satake from my old school in Japan called Seido kaikan.

[urkingod]

Me too, I know Willie in person, and so as Sosyu, and Shihan Oyama. I train with them.

[kolsyrade]

Only ones I know of are a few documentaries of the 1&2 kyokushin open world tournaments (1975&1979), where he participated.

[emiliokohn]

Do you know where can i find more videos from Willi Williams ??

[chavalote]

Yes, there are not many of him in Youtube.

[blugularis]

great Oyama!

[Ippondo]

Where is Big Willie ?? Trained with him back in the days in CT

[aki2815jp]

全盛期をとっくに過ぎているウイリーに、佐竹は大苦戦しているな­。。。それにしても、いつ見ても「正道」の選手のパフォーマンス­は鼻につく。利いてないよポーズやガッツポーズ。これは武道じゃ­なく興行！

[chavalote]

動画になっている時点で、もう興行になっているかもしれない。

[akextream]

osu!

[SenseiMazz]

Thx for posting. Interresting to see an old legend against a (relatively ) new legend