1999, the Mac's graphics card was clearly outperforming the the PC's; as was to be expected, since it was the first of its kind. March 2011, the best Apple can offer is an ATI Radeon HD5870, which was bested by the 5990 back in early 2010 and is now a generation behind the new HD6000 series cards. And this is on the "professional" computer; proof that Apple's gone from making serious machines to hipster pandering.
@jacketman22 Those "best" GPU's are more for gaming. The Mac Pro's aren't made for gaming, but workstation tasks, and most tasks don't require those kind of GPU's. Also, they're rather limited in what they can put in them because it's up to AMD and NVIDIA to make a Mac version (which should be more common fairly soon as GPU's are staring to come with EFI rather than just BIOS). Even with the workstation GPU's, it's again down to AMD/VIDIA to write the drivers for the Mac. Not really Apples fault
The voodoo card was never really great in openGL games (OpenGl mini-driver.), it was better when using glide. i wonder if they used openGL or glide for these tests.
People say that Macs aren't good for games at all, I don't understand why, mind you I'm not a gamer, but I've just bought the latest iMac with a 21 inch screen, it has the ATI HD graphics card in it and it has a 1 TB hard drive, on paper at least that should be good enough for most modern games, right?
@Lachlant1984 It's not that the hardware doesn't support it. I have a Mac so don't call me a PC fanboy. It's because of they don't have a larger share of the market for computers, developers don't make games for it. They want to reach out to the larger market cause they know their game will have a better chance there. And the cost it takes to hire people to convert games to Mac is expensive, so they just don't do it. What I did was use bootcamp and install windows on it to play games.
What is the fastest CPU for a G3 B&G? mine is the stock 400, and I think at least in G3 chips, it'll take 450, and what really is that in comparison with say, Pentium 3?? Forget Pentium 2, even though I have a few! haha
Why are people comparing to tech that's what, 10 to 20 years old now, I got my first PC in 2000, eMachines eTower 700, that was 256MB tops, 64 present, PCI in miniATX format and Windows ME on a 30GB drive, with DVD combo
In 1999? Multiple vid cards in one computer? Maybe independant, I can see Matrox leading the charge in the day. I read that LSI and VLSI were do-able in 1980 in fact!
No 3DFX made the Voodoo2 and they developed their own multy gpu solutions up till the VSA101 before being bought out in Dec 2000. When they were bought out Nvidia acquired all intellectual rights which included "SLI" which 3DFX had invented but the two are different in design. Modern uses eithe SFR or AFR while 3DFX did neither but instead line of a single frame or alternate before being sync and formed into a single frame.
I have (and used to play) Dark Vengeance on my 400 MHz Sawtooth. It was a decent game, but it kinda fell flat on the gameplay. Not to mention that some of the enemies had really cheap attacks, and it was incredibly buggy. It certainly wasnt as taxing as Myth TFL, which came out in 1997.
Hi! Its good to still see those who continue to make use of their power macs. I am not ready to go to intel as of yet. I have a G4 DUAL 1.25(close to 1.42) w/2MB L3 cache and its a BEAST! It flies, leopard flies on it! Do you both think my MDD will last me for a little while longer? Even the Apple Store near me told me that I should be fine with my powerpc 7455B G4.
Hey Nadav34, You got a tough computer and if you did the math i'd be equal to a 4 Ghz Pentium 4 if it could exist. You still got a tough machine. I'd say you have 2 years before needing to think about upgrading.
What is your max ram? 1GB? Also, with the OS, you add or lose some software function, maybe add a drive for more then one, or add three drives!!? Mine does have a SCSI drive, unlike the demo models here
I got oen fo $6 its a bit fo a mess but still runs fine. Only two things are broken on it. The rear stand/handle on the case(same thing on my g4 idk why lol) and an led on the logicboard is failing.
my powermac g3 gets 150-200 FPS
jjjjentges 7 months ago
16MB of graphics! That was pretty good back then. Now we get 1GB of graphics in the current Macbook Pro. Wow how times change.
bigmacdaddy31 8 months ago 4
My God, that game looks awful.
Tordah26 9 months ago
If I still played games like I did a few years back I'd have gone with the PC, but since I don't I prefer a Mac these days.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 10 months ago
1999, the Mac's graphics card was clearly outperforming the the PC's; as was to be expected, since it was the first of its kind. March 2011, the best Apple can offer is an ATI Radeon HD5870, which was bested by the 5990 back in early 2010 and is now a generation behind the new HD6000 series cards. And this is on the "professional" computer; proof that Apple's gone from making serious machines to hipster pandering.
jacketman22 11 months ago
@jacketman22 Those "best" GPU's are more for gaming. The Mac Pro's aren't made for gaming, but workstation tasks, and most tasks don't require those kind of GPU's. Also, they're rather limited in what they can put in them because it's up to AMD and NVIDIA to make a Mac version (which should be more common fairly soon as GPU's are staring to come with EFI rather than just BIOS). Even with the workstation GPU's, it's again down to AMD/VIDIA to write the drivers for the Mac. Not really Apples fault
TalesOfWar 10 months ago
The voodoo card was never really great in openGL games (OpenGl mini-driver.), it was better when using glide. i wonder if they used openGL or glide for these tests.
madmax2069 1 year ago
One guy used the Voodoo 2.
MrVinney96 1 year ago
People say that Macs aren't good for games at all, I don't understand why, mind you I'm not a gamer, but I've just bought the latest iMac with a 21 inch screen, it has the ATI HD graphics card in it and it has a 1 TB hard drive, on paper at least that should be good enough for most modern games, right?
Lachlant1984 1 year ago
@Lachlant1984 It's not that the hardware doesn't support it. I have a Mac so don't call me a PC fanboy. It's because of they don't have a larger share of the market for computers, developers don't make games for it. They want to reach out to the larger market cause they know their game will have a better chance there. And the cost it takes to hire people to convert games to Mac is expensive, so they just don't do it. What I did was use bootcamp and install windows on it to play games.
weinerschnitzelboy 1 year ago
@Lachlant1984 it will depend on the games requirements, and if it is available to the Mac, then yes u should be able too...
TheMac4010 9 months ago
Then we will spank it with rage 128 in CF
pioneerz450 1 year ago
voodoo2 in sli 2 cards will beat a ati rage 128 lol
SMASHITFORTHELULZ 1 year ago
65 fps!! Thats more than my PC can pump out
teckboy4 1 year ago
Try running WoW at this badass!
123halo97 1 year ago
1GB RAM
100GB Storage
4 Slots
Sounds like a barely acceptable choice for low-critical stuff (like browsing and light office work) by today's standards.
sulfura3 1 year ago
@sulfura3 It can run osx: try running windows vista or win 7 on a PC with 1gb ram.
MACOSXSL 1 year ago
OMFG they got hardware acceleration in 1999 lol
Desmonddd2002 1 year ago
I wish we could get a top of the line video card for $200 today..
NerdInHisShoe 1 year ago
I thought that old macs could go up 2 128GB HDD!
speedyeggbert2009 1 year ago
IBMs new 36GB and a ipod touch with 64GB only 9 years later lol
comneard2 1 year ago
@comneard2 yea but thats hard drives and the ipod has flash and look how fat those 36gb drives are
intelinsideTV 1 year ago
400MHZ single core... Wow look at what we have now...
Skylight00000 1 year ago
Man if only I had a nickel for every time Steve cleared his throat...
vidmaker48 2 years ago 25
@vidmaker48 ha if i did, i would be able to afford a new mac.
...sent from an ibook g3.
txprodigy95 7 months ago
omg... 1GB of ram, reaction: wooooo! 100 GB HARD DRIVE!: WOOOOOOO! technology changes so fast...
nightsaturn 2 years ago 32
@nightsaturn My computer from 6 years after this was shown had HALF that.
ZaydHumsy 6 months ago
What is the fastest CPU for a G3 B&G? mine is the stock 400, and I think at least in G3 chips, it'll take 450, and what really is that in comparison with say, Pentium 3?? Forget Pentium 2, even though I have a few! haha
MetallicBill 2 years ago
Why are people comparing to tech that's what, 10 to 20 years old now, I got my first PC in 2000, eMachines eTower 700, that was 256MB tops, 64 present, PCI in miniATX format and Windows ME on a 30GB drive, with DVD combo
MetallicBill 2 years ago 2
Hehe, phil sucks for videogames
JimmyJosafat 2 years ago
I think they used only a single voodoo2 in the pc instead what most did in those days sli.
oc5nsli341nforce4 2 years ago 3
@oc5nsli341nforce4
No, there was no SLI, and Mac has no AGP at this stage either, and the card is PCI, actually, not built into the mobo, as some PCs did, in fact
MetallicBill 2 years ago
@MetallicBill
Not on mac but PC there was and were very common for high end game rigs. Then there was quantum 3d simulators they used sli just google them up.
oc5nsli341nforce4 2 years ago
In 1999? Multiple vid cards in one computer? Maybe independant, I can see Matrox leading the charge in the day. I read that LSI and VLSI were do-able in 1980 in fact!
MetallicBill 2 years ago
PC back in the day with 3dfx had multiple cards just do a google search voodoo2 sli. If you are interested look up quantum 3d mercury.
oc5nsli341nforce4 2 years ago
SLI is nVidia copyrighted and they didn't make the Voodoo 2.
DeltaPhi79 2 years ago
No 3DFX made the Voodoo2 and they developed their own multy gpu solutions up till the VSA101 before being bought out in Dec 2000. When they were bought out Nvidia acquired all intellectual rights which included "SLI" which 3DFX had invented but the two are different in design. Modern uses eithe SFR or AFR while 3DFX did neither but instead line of a single frame or alternate before being sync and formed into a single frame.
oc5nsli341nforce4 2 years ago
Dark Venges, "mm, sounds err. dark" lol
rkukentertainment 2 years ago 3
I have (and used to play) Dark Vengeance on my 400 MHz Sawtooth. It was a decent game, but it kinda fell flat on the gameplay. Not to mention that some of the enemies had really cheap attacks, and it was incredibly buggy. It certainly wasnt as taxing as Myth TFL, which came out in 1997.
exPOnEntial7 3 years ago
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lol... WOW!! 36GB hard drives!!! lmao
elementality4me 3 years ago
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Marron077 3 years ago
Hi! Its good to still see those who continue to make use of their power macs. I am not ready to go to intel as of yet. I have a G4 DUAL 1.25(close to 1.42) w/2MB L3 cache and its a BEAST! It flies, leopard flies on it! Do you both think my MDD will last me for a little while longer? Even the Apple Store near me told me that I should be fine with my powerpc 7455B G4.
Nadav34 3 years ago 2
no because no powerpcs cannot have 10.6 and even the 1.67GHz the macbook 1 one standard had 1.67Ghz can have it i think its powerpc
diond408 3 years ago
what? all the macbooks are intel based.
windowspiratato 2 years ago 3
Hey Nadav34, You got a tough computer and if you did the math i'd be equal to a 4 Ghz Pentium 4 if it could exist. You still got a tough machine. I'd say you have 2 years before needing to think about upgrading.
meowser007 3 years ago
SO COOL, thanks so much for the upload, hopefully i'm about go get an old G3!!
retro8064 4 years ago 3
Do it! I've got a few of them at home here. I have a 400MHz with max RAM running my torrent downloads on 10.2. Great system.
thepiratemonkies 4 years ago
What is your max ram? 1GB? Also, with the OS, you add or lose some software function, maybe add a drive for more then one, or add three drives!!? Mine does have a SCSI drive, unlike the demo models here
MetallicBill 2 years ago
I got oen fo $6 its a bit fo a mess but still runs fine. Only two things are broken on it. The rear stand/handle on the case(same thing on my g4 idk why lol) and an led on the logicboard is failing.
DawVideos 3 years ago