she already competed @ the american cup and a 4 country meet. marta had to give the other girls chances to compete for experience. plus the other countries here didnt bring their best athletes
shawn has already competed twice with the national team this year, marta has to give other girls experience. besides shawn is a lock for beijing and everyone knew the us was gonna win the TF, even with a team of 6 jrs.
Sometimes I just don't care for her gymnastics at all. She is elegant yes, and her technique is good, but not powerful at all. She's not dynamic. I don't get excited to watch her perform.
What a stud! I saw the bent knees on the pak! She needs to connect the tkatchev with the pack and rais to 17.9! She is incredible! Still she's tired at the end of that routine! She could toss that dismount up a lil higher and cleaner as she get's use to this long routine!
yeah i agree. i wonder if she is training that connection (tkatchev to pak). that would make thise routine so amazing it would almost be unbelievable!
I think that could definitely explain the trouble she has had on that skill at this event and even at the American Cup. It is a logical upgrade for her to make. Both Valeri and Nastia have indicated that they aren't done on bars yet.
unlike everyone else i kinda hope that she doesnt get new music. it takes a while for a new choreo and music to 'grow' on me and if she were to get a new one i feel like ppl wudnt have enough time to learn to like it b4 the olympics
I am not 100% up on the technical side of gymnastics at this level but logically, if she is swinging out of a tkatchev she is going to have to give her pak more push to get it around than out of a straight giant swing. She overcooked her pak both days in San Jose which suggests to me that she has been working the move in combination in training and pushing it the extra she will need to get it around.
How was that worth a 16.650? She bent her knees on the pac and took a step on the landing. Its not even the best that I have seen her do that routine.
what the hell are you talking about??? her only flaw on this routine was the end of the pak salto. the rest is minor things that are nearly impossible to fix. i suppose the step on the dismount wasn't to good either but thasts it. the pak salto was a fluke. and besides when yo ucan do what she does then you can start judging her.
Did you watch the rest of bars workers at this meet? Even Shapiro who was next best doesn't show the quality and technique Nastia does on this aparatus.
like vanessa ferrari... sorry if there are any fans of her (seriously, i'm sorry for you! only kidding). Everything vanessa ferrari does is so ugly but she has the diffculty. Definitely the leader of the chucker pack. Steliana nistor, also a big chucker, although for some reason i'm very fond of her and am rooting for her to medal. I want it to be Nastia gold, Steliana silver, and shawn bronze but i'm 80% sure it will be shawn because of her diffulty, especially if she gets the 2.5 yurchenko.
I don't know... I think it there will be a very good field in the AA at the Olympics... but I think that if Nastia can stay healthy she will beat Shawn, maybe just because she has more experience. Althugh where Shawn is is strong on 4 events, Natia is strong on one (vault) and VERY strong on the others.
Nastia is weak on floor , has a cheap beam (though well done) good uneven bars with a lot of form problems but a high A score to get a crazy score anyway and is a bad vaulter.
Shawn is a decent vaulter, great on beam, horrible leaps on floor but a very good tumbeler and her bars is blah but gets in the 15's.
If Nastia did not have such a high A score on bars she wouldn't be in the AA medal hunt
I don't see how you see that. Yes, Nastia is not a strong vaulter, but I don't see how you could think her bars have alot of form problems... the only consistent problem is the slightly bent legs in the giants. I also don't see how her beam is "cheap". She is EASILY the one of the best, if not the best, dancer in the world right now, and her tumbling has greatly improved in the past couple of years.
I think she would definitly be in the medal hunt, even if her A score on bars wasn't as high.
ok, first of all, an opinion is never factual. it is an opinion. and i never said she didn't have any form problems, i said the only CONSISTENT form problem on BARS was the hooked legs on the giants.
and about the dancing, she does more dance and does it more gracefully and has better presentation than just about any other gymnast in the world right now. in MY opinion.
yes, she can dance. where in the hell are you getting that she can't dance? look at her and tell me she isn't graceful, because when she executes her routines, her grace and rhythm are impeccible. Nothing can beat it.
@crazy4gymnastics4224 - Nastia Luikin is graceful compared to most gymnasts today, but she doesnt compare with the classical gymnasts of the 70's and 80's......
you really have no idea what you are talking about. gymgirl61 is totally correct in her "opinions", and you are basing your information on bullshit. Nastia's beam routine is not "cheap" as you say it is. that is BULLSHIT! BOTH nastia and shawn are amazing. there is no way of telling who is better yet, so just stop trying to be a know-it-all, because you aren't.
@FireDannyAinge No, she keeps her knees straight throughout the routine (minus the pak) and then possibley her knees slightly bend past the low bar when she goes into her gienger, and also when she is setting up for the blind change dismount. But her work is AMAZING!
@willsbob123 Thisvideo is messy but if you seriously can't see her bad form on her giants going into her horrible form in her dismount adding into account her leg separations in every handstand then I think you need glasses and I am serious. I am not trying to be mean.
people bug me so much on critizism. they are so annoying. i can't believe people acutally say that nastia sucks. she doesn't suck at all. she is one of the best, if not the best in the world right now.
her handstands look really good from this angle.
aly47 2 years ago
wow soo much height on the double front! I don't even know why a step was necessary
alexgym09 2 years ago
not sure i have seen her mess up her pack too many times
roger555 3 years ago
How come Shawn Johnson didn't compeate in the meet?
ladyfallsalot 3 years ago
she already competed @ the american cup and a 4 country meet. marta had to give the other girls chances to compete for experience. plus the other countries here didnt bring their best athletes
mistybabe5489 3 years ago
nastia has more experience that any of the contendors of the olympics....just saying. i dont think that's why shawn didn't compete here.
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago
shawn has already competed twice with the national team this year, marta has to give other girls experience. besides shawn is a lock for beijing and everyone knew the us was gonna win the TF, even with a team of 6 jrs.
mistybabe5489 3 years ago
i believe shawn and nastia have equal chance of making the team.
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago
shawn nastia and alicia are the 3 locks for the team if they make it to trials w/o injury.
mistybabe5489 3 years ago
anyone else notice the vaulter in the background starting at around 0:57.... LMAO!!
BarSwinger2011 3 years ago
yaaa..PAHAHAHZ
that was sooo hot!
dannyradar 3 years ago
yaaa..PAHAHAHZ
that was sooo hot!
dannyradar 3 years ago
What was the score? and the thing i just said was 2 crazy4gymnastics4224 sorry i go 2 reply and when i post it it goes 2 the top 4 some reason!!!!
liukin95 3 years ago
Scary pak... kinda nasty looking... uncharacteristic
Tkachev562 3 years ago
Sometimes I just don't care for her gymnastics at all. She is elegant yes, and her technique is good, but not powerful at all. She's not dynamic. I don't get excited to watch her perform.
danzincharlotte 3 years ago
Her dismount must be deducted 0.7 .
redliang 3 years ago
Does anyone know when she is getting a new floor routine?
Bejingolympian 3 years ago
GRATE JOB NASTIA.. EXCELLENT RUTINE
carsan85 3 years ago
The double front-half is growing on me.
levlava 3 years ago
I know what you mean. I hated it at first, but it is getting a lot better and I like it so much better than the plain double front.
gymgirl61 3 years ago
Did Nastia get a new floor routine yet? if not. when is she getting one
Bejingolympian 3 years ago
What a stud! I saw the bent knees on the pak! She needs to connect the tkatchev with the pack and rais to 17.9! She is incredible! Still she's tired at the end of that routine! She could toss that dismount up a lil higher and cleaner as she get's use to this long routine!
Timtation69 3 years ago 3
yeah i agree. i wonder if she is training that connection (tkatchev to pak). that would make thise routine so amazing it would almost be unbelievable!
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago
I think that could definitely explain the trouble she has had on that skill at this event and even at the American Cup. It is a logical upgrade for her to make. Both Valeri and Nastia have indicated that they aren't done on bars yet.
seethesun08 3 years ago
thats cool. i hope not. she's so good on bars and beam. even her floor is improving. is she goign to get different music before the olympics?
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago
ya i think so some people r saying she is and some r saying she isnt so i think she is we will have 2 wait and see
liukin95 3 years ago
yeah if she is i cant wait!
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago
yeah if she is i cant wait!
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago
unlike everyone else i kinda hope that she doesnt get new music. it takes a while for a new choreo and music to 'grow' on me and if she were to get a new one i feel like ppl wudnt have enough time to learn to like it b4 the olympics
gymnast08ia 3 years ago
seethesun, can u explain why it wud make her do the pac worse wen its alone??
gymnast08ia 3 years ago
I am not 100% up on the technical side of gymnastics at this level but logically, if she is swinging out of a tkatchev she is going to have to give her pak more push to get it around than out of a straight giant swing. She overcooked her pak both days in San Jose which suggests to me that she has been working the move in combination in training and pushing it the extra she will need to get it around.
seethesun08 3 years ago 2
well all i have to say is that it was pretty abvious she was going to win the AA.
eMthegymnast 3 years ago 2
wow..she hits the handstands really well. LOL not that i'm too educated in gymnastics..
luvsasha2 3 years ago
How was that worth a 16.650? She bent her knees on the pac and took a step on the landing. Its not even the best that I have seen her do that routine.
tjones29 3 years ago
The perks of a starting from a 17.7....
80sgymfan 3 years ago
yea shes doin better. at the american cup she put her hand down on her dismount
mistybabe5489 3 years ago
Looks like Nastia has joined the chuckers club. Forget form and technique as long as you can chuck the skill go for it. Your A score will hold you up.
I am not blaming Nastia. Blaming this retarded code.
To many gymnasts are kept in AA's because of routines like this and the sport is dying because of it.
FireDannyAinge 3 years ago
what the hell are you talking about??? her only flaw on this routine was the end of the pak salto. the rest is minor things that are nearly impossible to fix. i suppose the step on the dismount wasn't to good either but thasts it. the pak salto was a fluke. and besides when yo ucan do what she does then you can start judging her.
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago
Did you watch the rest of bars workers at this meet? Even Shapiro who was next best doesn't show the quality and technique Nastia does on this aparatus.
seethesun08 3 years ago
like vanessa ferrari... sorry if there are any fans of her (seriously, i'm sorry for you! only kidding). Everything vanessa ferrari does is so ugly but she has the diffculty. Definitely the leader of the chucker pack. Steliana nistor, also a big chucker, although for some reason i'm very fond of her and am rooting for her to medal. I want it to be Nastia gold, Steliana silver, and shawn bronze but i'm 80% sure it will be shawn because of her diffulty, especially if she gets the 2.5 yurchenko.
lepetitpoulet 3 years ago
I don't know... I think it there will be a very good field in the AA at the Olympics... but I think that if Nastia can stay healthy she will beat Shawn, maybe just because she has more experience. Althugh where Shawn is is strong on 4 events, Natia is strong on one (vault) and VERY strong on the others.
gymgirl61 3 years ago
Nastia is weak on floor , has a cheap beam (though well done) good uneven bars with a lot of form problems but a high A score to get a crazy score anyway and is a bad vaulter.
Shawn is a decent vaulter, great on beam, horrible leaps on floor but a very good tumbeler and her bars is blah but gets in the 15's.
If Nastia did not have such a high A score on bars she wouldn't be in the AA medal hunt
FireDannyAinge 3 years ago
I don't see how you see that. Yes, Nastia is not a strong vaulter, but I don't see how you could think her bars have alot of form problems... the only consistent problem is the slightly bent legs in the giants. I also don't see how her beam is "cheap". She is EASILY the one of the best, if not the best, dancer in the world right now, and her tumbling has greatly improved in the past couple of years.
I think she would definitly be in the medal hunt, even if her A score on bars wasn't as high.
gymgirl61 3 years ago
She has not danced in years and you need glasses if you can't see the legs seperating.
Nastia fans are blinded by their girl crushes. My opinion are factual on the sport.
Look up how much her B score was deducted for her form problems then tell me she has none
FireDannyAinge 3 years ago
ok, first of all, an opinion is never factual. it is an opinion. and i never said she didn't have any form problems, i said the only CONSISTENT form problem on BARS was the hooked legs on the giants.
and about the dancing, she does more dance and does it more gracefully and has better presentation than just about any other gymnast in the world right now. in MY opinion.
gymgirl61 3 years ago
yes, she can dance. where in the hell are you getting that she can't dance? look at her and tell me she isn't graceful, because when she executes her routines, her grace and rhythm are impeccible. Nothing can beat it.
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago 3
@crazy4gymnastics4224 - Nastia Luikin is graceful compared to most gymnasts today, but she doesnt compare with the classical gymnasts of the 70's and 80's......
garyj79 6 months ago
Open your eyes. Are you a retard or something?
FireDannyAinge 3 years ago
you really have no idea what you are talking about. gymgirl61 is totally correct in her "opinions", and you are basing your information on bullshit. Nastia's beam routine is not "cheap" as you say it is. that is BULLSHIT! BOTH nastia and shawn are amazing. there is no way of telling who is better yet, so just stop trying to be a know-it-all, because you aren't.
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago 2
d skills, d skill, d skill, d skill BLAH blah blah blah.
There is nothing but some connected d skills
FireDannyAinge 3 years ago
@FireDannyAinge There is everything! Exceptional toe point, straight knees (not in pak)
This routine was 7.7 A!
willsbob123 2 years ago
Straight knee's? Are you serious.
FireDannyAinge 2 years ago
@FireDannyAinge Ermm, yes.
willsbob123 2 years ago
ermm no. Try again.lol
FireDannyAinge 2 years ago
@FireDannyAinge No, she keeps her knees straight throughout the routine (minus the pak) and then possibley her knees slightly bend past the low bar when she goes into her gienger, and also when she is setting up for the blind change dismount. But her work is AMAZING!
willsbob123 2 years ago
@willsbob123 Thisvideo is messy but if you seriously can't see her bad form on her giants going into her horrible form in her dismount adding into account her leg separations in every handstand then I think you need glasses and I am serious. I am not trying to be mean.
FireDannyAinge 2 years ago
people bug me so much on critizism. they are so annoying. i can't believe people acutally say that nastia sucks. she doesn't suck at all. she is one of the best, if not the best in the world right now.
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago 2
well next yr they r changing the cop to the 8 hardest skills and the b-panel is gonna b tougher on form
mistybabe5489 3 years ago
If only they were the only deductions they took. They took more than a full point in deductions from this routine.
seethesun08 3 years ago
Well, at least she hit her HB sequence this time.
uwoeric 3 years ago
do u have any other events??
gymnast08ia 3 years ago
Nah sorry - I got the event that was clearest and unfortunately that was only bars.
80sgymfan 3 years ago
big thanks for the posting!!
aaamf18 3 years ago
I agree, thanks. Pity about the break on the Pak Salto. xx
Lilia96 3 years ago
You rock, thanks for posting all these videos!
elong10 3 years ago