For reasons why it ain't necessarily so & top philosophy of religion & sceptical analysis of Bible try Robert M Price, John W. Loftus, Dan Barker, Victor J. Stenger. E.A.Wallis Budge translation of, 'The Papyrus of Ani',D. A. Mackenzie,' Egyptian myth and legend', James G Frazer, 'The Golden Bough', Thomas Paine, Joseph Wheless, Robert Ingersoll, C.Dennis Mckinsey, Bart Ehrman, ZomGitsCriss, Christopher Hitchens, Valerie Tarico, Ken Humphreys, Israel Finkelstein , Richard Dawkins
This interpretation touches me like no other sermon - preached from any pulpit - has ever touched me. All the sermons from pulpits just made me feel dizzy, when i was a child. ... I had to quit church (honestly !) in order to gain some fresh air. All these (almost ! Haha !) saintly priests would think twice about their sermons, and probably drop it, if they'd not be paid for it !
@lilmerali As jesus said: it will happen to you according to your creed ! So according to your creed you will be judged and (maybe) put to WHERE ? (you name it !)
@Littlewhitelephant Jesus did say that but you're taking it in the wrong concept. This is real life not cartoons, so if even I say "I don't believe in gravity" and I throw myself of a cliff I'll fall and crash. So even if you say "I don't believe in hell" if hell is real, And I know it is, you will still end up there even if you don't believe in it. It's just reality.
@lilmerali Well, tell me, Who was the first telling us that there is hell ? Whosoever that is - should claim a copyright for that idea.
According to archeologists and historians the Bible has many unknown authors and was written mostly in the time of king josia 700 bc.
Eternal (!) hell is an invention of the catholic church, correct me if i'm wrong, earning the church a lot of funds due to widows wanting to get a front seat in heaven.
@Littlewhitelephant (2) Theologicians still doubt, whether jesus's counsel to people to throw away the eye when noticing the want of a woman was really the word of jesus.
Because frankly, that doesn't really comply with jesus's generally tolerant treatment of sinners.
Jesus was a friendly eschatologist who died as we will die, but believed that the end of the world was near (and it wasn't).
Paul reinvented the church preaching original sin being wiped out when baptized believing in christ.
@Littlewhitelephant You're talking about purgatory, which is not hell, research it. The Catholic Church invented it to sell indulgences and they threatened that their dead will eventually slip from purgatory to hell.Hell has always been inthe Bible on places such as Matthew 5:29-30; Luke 16:23-24 and many more. Those verses were written a lot of years before purgatory was invented by the Rooman Catholic church.
@lilmerali Yes, you are right and i was wrong about the author. But who is the author of the NT then ? many UNKNOWN authors ! And in Luke 16.23 ff JESUS surprisingly expressed the idea of Hell as consequence. But IT AIN'T NECESSARILY SO !:-) And THAT'S the GOOD NEWS !
Love this. I personally think the jazz/soul style suits the music for Porgy and Bess much better than opera...but then, what do I know, I'm no aficionado.
I miss jazz interpretation of songs like this one. A lost art ,and I'm sad to think...rarely remembered by our society. Thanks for the memories texpaco! WONDERFUL! 10+ stars.
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For reasons why it ain't necessarily so & top philosophy of religion & sceptical analysis of Bible try Robert M Price, John W. Loftus, Dan Barker, Victor J. Stenger. E.A.Wallis Budge translation of, 'The Papyrus of Ani',D. A. Mackenzie,' Egyptian myth and legend', James G Frazer, 'The Golden Bough', Thomas Paine, Joseph Wheless, Robert Ingersoll, C.Dennis Mckinsey, Bart Ehrman, ZomGitsCriss, Christopher Hitchens, Valerie Tarico, Ken Humphreys, Israel Finkelstein , Richard Dawkins
zytigon 4 months ago
Ray ! Ray ! Ray !
Ram ! Ram ! Ram ! :-)
Littlewhitelephant 6 months ago
This interpretation touches me like no other sermon - preached from any pulpit - has ever touched me. All the sermons from pulpits just made me feel dizzy, when i was a child. ... I had to quit church (honestly !) in order to gain some fresh air. All these (almost ! Haha !) saintly priests would think twice about their sermons, and probably drop it, if they'd not be paid for it !
Littlewhitelephant 7 months ago
Porgy and Bess is in my view wrongly treated as opera topic.
It is a musical ! and with great songs like this one !
Since this song isn't dealing with love or it IS dealing with the bible and the church in a critical way it's sadly enough not played very often.
Littlewhitelephant 7 months ago
The politician totally sounds like Joe from family guy!!! Thumbs up of you agree?
BingBingKaChing 1 year ago
I think it is necessarily so
lilmerali 1 year ago
@lilmerali As jesus said: it will happen to you according to your creed ! So according to your creed you will be judged and (maybe) put to WHERE ? (you name it !)
Littlewhitelephant 7 months ago
@Littlewhitelephant Jesus did say that but you're taking it in the wrong concept. This is real life not cartoons, so if even I say "I don't believe in gravity" and I throw myself of a cliff I'll fall and crash. So even if you say "I don't believe in hell" if hell is real, And I know it is, you will still end up there even if you don't believe in it. It's just reality.
lilmerali 6 months ago
@lilmerali Well, tell me, Who was the first telling us that there is hell ? Whosoever that is - should claim a copyright for that idea.
According to archeologists and historians the Bible has many unknown authors and was written mostly in the time of king josia 700 bc.
Eternal (!) hell is an invention of the catholic church, correct me if i'm wrong, earning the church a lot of funds due to widows wanting to get a front seat in heaven.
Littlewhitelephant 6 months ago
@Littlewhitelephant (2) Theologicians still doubt, whether jesus's counsel to people to throw away the eye when noticing the want of a woman was really the word of jesus.
Because frankly, that doesn't really comply with jesus's generally tolerant treatment of sinners.
Jesus was a friendly eschatologist who died as we will die, but believed that the end of the world was near (and it wasn't).
Paul reinvented the church preaching original sin being wiped out when baptized believing in christ.
Littlewhitelephant 6 months ago
@Littlewhitelephant You're talking about purgatory, which is not hell, research it. The Catholic Church invented it to sell indulgences and they threatened that their dead will eventually slip from purgatory to hell.Hell has always been inthe Bible on places such as Matthew 5:29-30; Luke 16:23-24 and many more. Those verses were written a lot of years before purgatory was invented by the Rooman Catholic church.
lilmerali 5 months ago
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Littlewhitelephant 5 months ago
@lilmerali Yes, you are right and i was wrong about the author. But who is the author of the NT then ? many UNKNOWN authors ! And in Luke 16.23 ff JESUS surprisingly expressed the idea of Hell as consequence. But IT AIN'T NECESSARILY SO !:-) And THAT'S the GOOD NEWS !
Littlewhitelephant 5 months ago
@Littlewhitelephant so what Jesus says is not necessarily true... Fine be that way! if I were you I'd escape from hell...
lilmerali 5 months ago
Love this. I personally think the jazz/soul style suits the music for Porgy and Bess much better than opera...but then, what do I know, I'm no aficionado.
This is a great tune, I love this cover.
orbitalspeed 1 year ago
this is not "by" ray charles - it was written by george/ira gershwin
xooster 2 years ago
by is an umbrella term. get over it.
AllKindsaGirls 1 year ago 2
Music such as this is deserving of every last superlative! It will live when all else is dead and forgotten.
Mrtriumphchopper 2 years ago
Thanks for posting. I love the album of them doing the entire show. Wish I had it, actually. . .
ffattdad 2 years ago
Quite nice. Although the Ella Fitzgerald/Louis Armstrong version is far greater than this. That combination was magical.
EmpirePersian 2 years ago 3
@EmpirePersian That's the best version but no one has posted a ninja copyright violation version of it yet.
hymnofashes 1 year ago
@EmpirePersian i can't find that version :(
i bet it's great.
jazztrumpet87 7 months ago
@EmpirePersian Don't forget the Cab Calloway version.
Littlewhitelephant 6 months ago
There oughta be a way to actually give 10 stars for something like this !
cal88george 2 years ago 2
I miss jazz interpretation of songs like this one. A lost art ,and I'm sad to think...rarely remembered by our society. Thanks for the memories texpaco! WONDERFUL! 10+ stars.
jsbach15 2 years ago 10