45 MPG Turbo Diesel with Hydrogen Injection

[discoverthetruth13]

I found this more hilarious than informative. LOL

[brianwesley28]

"My god. Why didn't they make this before?"

That's no shit, dude. You know why. Greedy shits. Yeah. That does sound like it is running pretty smooth. HHO is some pretty good stuff.

[MrHydroguy]

you can get insurance cheaper from Farmers insurance. YEAH!

[Casowsky]

There is no such thing as 'HHO' gas. Electrolysis of water produces H2 and O2, i.e. hydrogen and oxygen gases (neglecting random by-products). It always has and always will. The HHO configuration DOES NOT EXIST. How many times do people need to be told this?

[Begbucks]

@Casowsky Yet is works. Much like my subvocal speech which "doesn't exist"...

[legogunguy001]

@Casowsky HHO is not a compound, it is a mixture of gases. We call it HHO because during electrolysis, there is twice as many hydrogen atoms produced than that of oxygen. HHO is just the name of a mixture. (Reference for mixtures and compounds: my 8th grade science book)

[Casowsky]

@legogunguy001 That's fair enough, just that most people I have seen involved with this kind of stuff seem to think that a mixture of H and O (produced via electrolysis) is some kind of wonder-gas. Like you said, there is no such compound as HHO, and yes, the mixture produced is a mixture of hydrogen gas and oxygen gas in a 2-to-1 ratio, but it is not correct to call it HHO. We would call it H2 + O2. But I guess that is semantics. So long as we understand the principle of conservation of energy.

[Casowsky]

@Casowsky Ran out of characters in that last one. I meant the principle of conservation of energy in reference to people getting better mileage with a fuel and gas mixture - of course you are getting increased 'mileage' from your fuel, but it has not come from nowhere, you needed to split up that water at some point requiring some energy which you paid for in your electrical bill!

[neurocytohemotoxic]

Is the system reliable?

[urbex2007]

What are you using to decrease the diesel injection in proportion to hydrogen injection? Unless you tell the engine to use less diesel you will not see any difference whether you inject hydrogen or not - you could starve the engine of oxygen and cause problems. I think you and others need to learn the basics of how an engine works before bolting bits on. Why do it if you don't know what for! It's the latest way to con drivers by the look of it, some can't disprove it works. We know it's crap!

[dubzfry]

@urbex2007 Sorry I know that your post was over 2 months ago but surely if you had a ECU remap on your car to use less diesel in the engine. Also if you think that your starving the engine of oxygen you could just use an induction kit to make up for the lack of oxygen. I know that the remap and induction kit would cost around £300. When you have the above at the right settings would the hydrogen make any difference than the set up currently in this video and would it be worth it ?

[tpvalley]

@urbex2007

IF the hydrogen generator didnt use more energy than it gave back then hydrogen does add power to diesels; it does this as a diesel always runs in an excess air condition, that is u always have unused oxygen coming out of exhaust (or u would if CO didnt take it to make more CO2 as it does)- essentiall the only O2 used is that O2 that touches injected diesel, adding hydrogen uses up this excess air.

[wweenh]

next time you get a diesel do it right. cummins , duramax or powerstroke not some J Pan crap...

[uraldneprvw]

These systems do not work. A 1 litre engine @ 2000 revs per minute will suck in 2000litres of air or 33 litres a second. A HHO generator will produce about 1cc of HHO per second(if you're lucky) 1 cc of HHO in 33 litres will make zero difference. Now imagine a 2 litre car at 2000rpm. Thats 1cc of HHO in 66000ccs of air.I made 3 generators for a 1.9litre car. No increase in power or mpg. I ran it for 5 months+kept records.The generators do produce HHO but you would need maybe 300 or so for a car

[slade420]

theres lots of cells making 5-6 LPM litres per minute

[yanlapanic]

@uraldneprvw ....1cc a second? calculate like 1litre a minute mean 16.6 CC a second ... did you ever learn mathematic?

[uraldneprvw]

@yanlapanic Theres no way that u can produce 16.6cc's of HHOp/s from a generator like this.I've constructed 3 generators.Even 16.6cc of HHO in 3,300 cc's of air is not going to make any difference + that's in a 1 litre engine at 2000rpm. Imagine a 4 litre doing 2000rpm. Try it + see. I run my car on WVO. That IS cheap. Forget HHO + the people who would kid you on it doubles the mpg. Build 1 + publish data then. Washing my car seems to make it run better. It's called the placebo effect.

[yanlapanic]

@uraldneprvw I search internet and found that 1/4 to 1/2 of the CC of the engine is enough to make a différence ...

with 1.8 l engine , you would only need 900 ml of HHo in a minutes ,

Im not an expert , i Just found this statistic on internet

[uraldneprvw]

@yanlapanic. I went to an alternative fuel meet at Santa Pod race track. Bio-diesel, waste veg oil powered cars + motorbikes, alcohol fuelled cars + bikes. There were a lot of very knowledgeable serious intelligent people there. It was filmed for the BBC. I picked up some useful tips. When I mentioned HHO generators to these guy, the response was always the same. I gave up mentioning it as I was being laughed at for being mug enough to believe it. I still gave it a go tho'. But they were right

[uraldneprvw]

@yanlapanic Mais vous êtes corrects. Merci pour les informations. J'ai voulu dire 1 litre pas 1 centimètre cube. C'est pas grave. As we say here: To err is human but to forgive is divine.

[yanlapanic]

@uraldneprvw c'est correct mon ami , on est la pour s'aidé ;)

[uraldneprvw]

@yanlapanic I agree that if 25% of the air intake was HHO it would make difference. That still means a huge intake per minute. However even with 3 HHO generators +3 months of measuring mileage + fuel consumption, I found zero advantage to running 3 HHO generators.I simply could not produce the volume of HHO required. However, with propane there is increased power + much better mpg. If you want to save money then use waste veg oil in your diesel. I have run my car for over 30,000 miles on it.

[yanlapanic]

@uraldneprvw

You have 3 wet cell ? what was youre production (lpm) when cell was hot?

what eletrolyte did you used ?

How many amp did the cell draw when hot?

were you using EFIE , MAP/maf enhencer?

What is the size of the engine you use?

These are basic question I would like to know

[uraldneprvw]

@yanlapanic I have tried Na3P04, NaOH, KOH. I used 6 plate reactors running at between 5 + 8 amps.The amperage pulled depends on the strength of the electrolyte. I once ran one at 15 amps but that is a major draw on the alternator + produces a lot of heat. I was using them on a 1.9 litre turbo diesel. I didn't use a maf enhancer. I now have a 2.5 litre C250 Merc My running costs are 2p or 0.025 euros a litre on waste veg. Easier,cheaper.legal + doesn't invalidate the car insurance like HHO does.

[KB3MMX]

Wish we could get Toyota Diesels here in the socialist country of USA.

[bikeitup14]

Im puttin a 5 cylinder mercedes diesel in my 4 runner this year hopefully :)

[KB3MMX]

@bikeitup14 Awesome! I wonder if the 6 cylinder turbo version form a 300SD would fit?

[KB3MMX]

@bikeitup14 Awesome! I wonder if the 6 cylinder turbo 3.0liter Diesel from a Mercedes 300SDL would fit?

[easttexasballer]

wat the fuck is that a diesel mini van????? hahahahahaahah

[TBWdracula2003]

thats freakin great! " about my mileage i have no fucking idea" thats great

[yehudiadelphos]

What about Landrovers with TD5 engines? I'm very willing to try it out. I'm playing with the Joe cell stuff, haven't finished yet, but am conducting trial first on ordinary mechanical diesel injection with a rotary fuel pump. I'm interested to know how turbo diese injected systems work.

Sincerely, Yehudi

[borowsky28]

Mileage is easy. Fill the tank, drive (the larger the data the better the accuracy), fill the tank again. How many miles for how many liters or gallons.

[WaterFuelSystems]

check my site, these kits will work on any Internal Combustion engine, even turbo diesel.

Just make sure you inject the HHO gas before the turbocharger, not after.

[cuzdaGreat1saidso]

great job...is anything like this available for the VW golf TDI?