exploring life extension part 3 caloric restriction

[4everkeim]

This video has 2 stars?

[666norton420]

my channel tends to focus on atheistic topics, so i keep getting vote botted by religious morons.

so ya.

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[4everkeim]

yeah that sucks, I got a few theists going on my channel telling me I am going to hell. Thats one of the big things that bothers me with religion, it slows progress and tries to retard science. ):

[cheemooo]

aging being called a disease seems exaderated, would this mean that if aging genes are turned off that one would never die? The epistomological element of all this makes it out of reach for humans. I believe aging can be slowed but to say aging is a disease and that it can be stopped sounds unlikley, if this were true the human body would never die.

[666norton420]

you've obviously taken someone's words too literally.

yes, they feel aging is a disease and they'd like to cure it... other than that, use common sense.

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[symbian7]

If aging is a disease, than death is a disease. Without death there is no evolution because there would be overpopulation, and old dogs who can't learn new tricks in control.

[666norton420]

hate to break it to you, but we haven't been evolving for some time.

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[sdrawkcabgnipytmi]

@666norton420

Actually that's not true at all. Evolution is based on differential reproduction, which is still going on. Natural selection doesn't kill the badly adapted, rather it rewards those that breed more.

That said, symbian7's argument is mute. We would continue to evolve by modifying ourselves.

What I don't understand is why there are so many opponents to the idea of living longer.

[666norton420]

@sdrawkcabgnipytmi yes, i understand how evolution works.

the only change biologists have noticed is a slight reduction in our brains sizes, due to domestication. that's it.

without any real pressures, we are not evolving. mutations may be occurring, but there is no way to increase their numbers.

we are stagnant.

also, genetic manipulation, while it would change us, would not be considered evolving in the biological sense.

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[sdrawkcabgnipytmi]

@666norton420

Mutations are not the primary diver of evolution. For example, up until very recently for first world countries, and still going on in many third world counties, many many people have died/are dying of disease. Differences in their immune systems were/are selected for. An example would be a selective pressure for Sickle Cell Anemia in malaria prone countries (it makes you resistant to malaria). This counts as evolution.

[sdrawkcabgnipytmi]

@666norton420

There are numerous ways in which we're evolving that are not necessarily visible.

A reduction in brain size also counts as evolution (evolution doesn't move in one direction).

Evolution is the change in the inherited traits of a population of organisms through successive generations. This is still going on.

[666norton420]

@sdrawkcabgnipytmi our brains shrinking isn't necessarily a bad thing, if that's what you were hinting at with the "not a one way" remark. it's about how efficient it is.

and while people pass on changes through their kids, they're not becoming prevalent in our population and i see no natural way they would be able to.

just passing on changing genes isn't evolving, it's just existing. ;)

i could technically be wrong, but i don't think so.

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[sdrawkcabgnipytmi]

@666norton420

You're right about the brains shrinking. But our brains have generally been increasing in size over evolutionary time, I just meant that it could also go the other way through evolution.

Technically, evolution is the change in allele frequencies in populations over time. You aren't going to find any biologist who will agree that this is not going on with modern humans.

[sdrawkcabgnipytmi]

@666norton420

The fact that people form India, have higher reproductive rates than whites an other example of human evolution (change in allele frequencies over time).

[cpisretartedmuch]

i have a question...

suppose they update our bodies so we only need 150 calories.

if i eat 2000 callories will i become fat or some sht?

[davefs25]

I thought L.E was just a large pharmaceutical company.

this is a nice scoop

[rendek]

the key is not eating less calories but eating one meal every 24 or 48 hours a day so your body can adjust to less calories. And another important factor is the digestive system, the less u use it the longer you live.

[666norton420]

"but eating one meal every 24 or 48 hours a day"

i think you need to examine a clock again.

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[rendek]

@666norton420

it's really this simple, the longer you can abstain from eating, the longer you live, food ages us.

[rendek]

@666norton420 LOL, you really don't understand, when you eat one meal every 24 hours, 48 or 72 what happens is you're digestive system and all the work your body uses including enzymes are not bieng used, so you appear young, you don't age, have gray hair your growth is stunted because of the calorie restricted diet. Food is what keeps you here and takes you away. There are people living on this earth that have been here since christopher colombus dicovered america, and during slavery.

[rendek]

@666norton420 Read, "How to Eat to Live" by Elijah Muhammad

[izzysmart]

I on etherium gold, and black, sharmir and aulterra, (monotomic stuff) i don't eat much at all dont get mucnhies as much any more lol i eat 600cals a day if that and work a physical job everyday.

[madman0000004]

Being hungry is just a sign that you don't get good nutrition. Your stomach has the capcity to enlarge and shrink depending on your diet. Caloric restriction is gradual and you have a chance to get used to filling your stomach less without being hungry.

[izzysmart]

heard this before there a man in scotland who only eats when hungry he very very very fit and healthy.. he only eats fruit and veg to i beileve. he does not consume much a day at all

[izzysmart]

wow yeah man that so true

[rnistuk]

I never took supplements when I was doing it. But I did choose my food very carefully, to ensure that I got everything I needed.

[winrx]

Great, just what we all need - flaky pseudo-intellectual beatniks to be around longer LOL

[barnabas5]

I see! So you can not imagine optimal nutrition without taking pills. I have a news for you: it is possible, however not easy. First of all you must have a good picture (I mean up to date scientific knowledge)of the nutritional requirement of your body. Read about the CRON diet, publicized e.g., by Roy Walford, and study the future trends: nutrigenomics in Nature, Science, PNAS, etc. Try to find out your deficits by using the Interactive Diet Planner.

[barnabas5]

Caloric restriction means restriction, i.e., consuming less than the usual equilibrium setpoint by about 10 - 25 % calories. The point is that while doing this, you have to avoid malnutrition, e.g., vitamin deficiency, protein deficiency, etc., which is not easy at all.

[trianglechoke7]

Intermittent fasting does the same thing as caloric restriction. Why on earth anyone would want to do CR over IR, and become a skinny and pathetic shell of a life, is beyond me.

[rnistuk]

I followed Roy Walford's calorie restricted diet for about a year. I got to a decent weight, started wieght-lifting and Aikido. I never felt more healthy than I did during that period. Unfortunately, it was a lot of work to prepare the meals! So I went back to my bad eating habits, but kept up with the weight-lifting and Aikido for a long time after.

I'm seriously considering giving it another go.

Just my own personal reslults, however.