The only good thing that came out of Bill looking like an ignorant racist fool is that it brought free advertising for one of the best restaurant in all of NYC.Go to Sylvia's at Lexingtoin Ave and 126th, its always the first place I go to when I visit NYC. Mrs. Woods herself is often in the restaurant and is a very kind and warm person.
@ConciousHipHop - I used the word "ain't" in an ironic way. To say something "ain't" something is a very old saying. You are pointing out the misuse of language by misusing language. It's a form of irony.
@ConciousHipHop "ain't" IS indeed a word, and a very interesting one. It's about 400 years old and it's used in many different dialects. Nowadays, whether we like it or not, even "gotta" and "wanna" could be considered words. Still ... do you care? Probably not, eh? lol
The media perpetuates and promotes stereotypes with Black people acting like idiots on music videos, and movies(criminals), and then get on people LIKE Bill O'reilly about being surprised. IT the MEDIA itself that makes blacks look a certain way. It's not just an embarrassment to Himself, but also for the MEDIA's betrayal of black people!
So he was suprised that the blacks acted civilized. Proving he previously thought of them as possibly barbaric, rude, loud mouthed, and vulgar. (Vulgar hint his Motherfucker get me some tea comment).
Before I dug into this topic I dismissed it as the media overblowing something and I had Bill already declared innocent in my mind, but now I see the truth.
Problem with the Italian Restaurant is that it is "the Olive Garden" Owned by a corporation that is run by wasps that control over 90% of the wealth in the U.S.
I guess Bill should've waited for the New Black Panthers' King Semir Shabazz's lecture at Sylvia's. He's hammering away at Fox and the Jews. Check out the video here on YouTube. ;-)
The people commenting on this video are morons. Amy is not a "self-hating black person" simply because she's intelligent enough to understand that O'Reilly, with whom she has spent time with (as opposed to Madcow), is not a racist. The guy was simply pointing out the fact that black stereotypes are not true. Anyone who actually watches his show regularly would know O'Reilly cannot even be considered racist. All of this is absolute nonsense.
@getdjman: well i do watch his show regularly in order to have something to make fun of and the things he's said about Arab-Americans, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans and Jews is verging on racist. he's just smart enough to make it subtle. get real! bill o'reilly is as racist as they come.
What does he think, blacks are hanging from the roof and screaming. He's an idiot. I've been to restaurants in Italy (sometimes people are loud, sometimes they're not.)
Why wouldn't eating at Sylvia's be like eating at any other well run restaurant in the United States? Bill O'Reilly is clearly out of touch. This is evident by his own words. I don't think he even realizes his mistake. Obviously he has no idea how real people behave and has been content to believe and promote negative stereotypes.
I hope Amy Holmes wasn't thinking for herself and she was just supposed to say that stuff. If O'Reilly had said oh Amy when I met you I expected you to have 2 babies on your hip and demand that Soulja boy's music be played in the background during our talk, maybe she would have thought THAT was racist.
Bill O'Reilly was totally racist. There's no way you can defend that, and I can see Bill O'Reilly defending himself. But Amy Holmes needs to open her eyes.
It's a damn shame when a yt woman can see how stupid and prejudice Bill O's comments are. Yet some snooty ass black conservative makes excuses for his ass!!! But go figure that is what I expect from Amy Holmes (rolling my eyes).
O'Reilly put his foot in his mouth all the way up to the ankle. I don't think he's a racist, "soft bigotry of low expectations" hits it right on the head. Maddow needs to mellow out a little bit.
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wow the level of stupidity of this dumb moronic liberal known as rachel maddow has no limits the more i watch her the more i wish some one would just wrap tape around her mouth and throw her in the trunk of a car.... there's a difference between being racist and proving a point its so simple what doesnt she understand about it so is joe b, racist as well lets go of on him stupid cunt stf up
hahaha . wow..are u really a o reilly fan.. or are u juss tryin to make o reilly fans look retarded.. by writing a stupid ass comment? i noticed how u dont like people talkin about the TRUTH.. what if i said. I went to camping in the woods.. and i saw a group of white people.. and i saw a black man walkin by the road... and these white people.DIDNT lynch him and hang him. i was sooo suprised.. none of the white people even yelled out "HEY NIGGR"or nothing like that. how nice of these whities..
i forgot what it is i wrote and no im not an oreily fan .... but ok you stupid liberal point is rachel maddow is a dumb ass who hangs of obama nutts and would love to take a shot at bill oreily i mean this benefits her .... oreily said the truth simple as that and like he said msnbc far left propaganda
YES... O RILEy wasnt LYING..thats the fucken point...the point that O reilly REALLY expected... to see some crazy black people...going all monkey crazy.. in some crazy black resturant... but when he found out... tat black people are actually PEOPLE.... And isnt going all crazy... he was SUPRISED as FUCK.... TATS whats RACIST.. if u dont understand why tats racists... its prolly cause ur ignorant...or racist....
If you actually listen to the ENTIRE tape - Bill is condeming racism as being stupid and ignorant. His point was that had he had a grandmother who was a biggot and afraid of black people and his observation was that her views were illinformed and ignorant and stupid and that if she had ever spent time with people of color she would see how wrong she was because as Bill observed being in sylvias was no different than being in any other restaurant. He wasnt surpirsed by it, he denounced racisim
what the hell are u talkin about.. he was suprised by how a black resturant isnt all in chaos and shootings..he COULDNT get over the fact... that sylvias was the same... as any other..(white) resturants in newyork.... and he thinks he was paying black people a compliment.. u probably do to...but the fact that he expected to go into a black resturant. and expect it to be way different from any of the white resturants he has been in. is ignorant in itself.. racist? iono.. but sure damn ignorant.
You probably didn't listen to the enitre tape and even if he did you would not keep an open mind - you're like many, not all, but many liberals who claim to be so tolerant and for the people but god forbid someone disagrees with you, you label them as racist. He was denouncing bigotry and racism - listen to the tape his actual words - not other people's interpretation of what he said. He was commenting that there is no difference - he was making the point that racism is wrong.
Again - if you are objective and listen to the ENTIRE tape - there's only one conclusion. If on the other hand you are a Bill O hater and you only look for him to say wrong things than you're going to come up with the opinion that you have - but most fair minded people who listen to the ENTIRE tape would say Bill was denouncing racism and bigotry. As far as your "u proably do to" commment proves my point that anyone who disagrees with you gets called racist. We just have a different POV
yea there is only one conclusion.. and its that bill is a ignorant taard... people who asked him logical and very good questions that would prove him wrong.. he usually just gets mad.. and trash talks.. ignorance... he dosent look for the truth.. he just tries to make u look wrong.. obviously ur juss a riley fan... and ur trying to defend him..
I like Bill, sure, but I'm not a kool-aid drinker - if he said something racist I would be the first to call him on it. He never said he was suprised, he never said that he was expecting it to be different - you're interpreting what hesaid as surprise and that he actually expected those things to be happening because you're blinded by your hatred of him. Instead of interpreting what he said you're interpreting what you think he meant.
" there wasnt.. one person.. in sylivias.. yelling... mfer.. i want more iced tea..."
"and there wasnt any kind of craziness at all"
"i couldnt..get over the fact... that sylvias was the same as any other resturaunt in new york city"
are u fucken kidding me? i dont kno what quote u heard.. but tats ignorant as they come... and tis guy heads a serious TV show? u gota be fucken kidding me...
Remember that conversation about race Obama said we never finished. Bill O tried to have a conversation about race in a positive way by denouncing biggoted and racist stereotypes and he gets killed for it. We'll never finish that conversation as long as it is a fixed deck where people are so afraid of being "perceived" to have said the wrong thing that they wind up not saying anything at all. Bill went on the air and said we're all the same and racism is wrong and hes demonized for it.
thats the only thing i listend too.. i never even heard of somone elses comments about his comment.. " he was commenting there is no difference" < you said that.... but the fact that he was expecting somthing different in the first place... is ignorant.. obviously u dont get that... the fact.. that he was SUPRISED... to find out.. there was no difference.. in a black resturant..ignorant... and if u dont get that.. it because of ur own ignorance...
okay... ur anti obama.... and so am i.... but WHY are u against obama ? is it juss because ur a republican... or because obama basically is continuing what stupid ass bush has started... and even though obama promised change... so far it seems like he is another BUSH.... tats why i hate him... if u hate him cause ur republican... it dosent even make sense.. cause he is basically doing everything Bush would want him to do...
o no being republican has nothing to do with it because even as a republican i didnt support of what bush did i can admit he was a horrible bigot president .... but my dislike of obama has to do with the facts that so many people drink the kool aid he serves and lie after lie comes out of the mans mouth his no better then bush.... he lied his way in to presidency he promised change etc etc. i mean i can just keep going and going
LMAO at this dumb broad. SHE'S supposed to represent the argument from the BLACK persepective? lol Maaaan....She's like the snake version of that Ruckus dude from the Boondocks cuz her punkass tryna coon around to make Bill-O the clown look like a victim. Just goes to show the world how Fox Noise be feeding their audience toxic shit.
Rachel is sitting there bewildered that she doesn't feel there is a twinge of racism in his comment. Racism is based on ignorance Amy. They are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
I feel bad for Amy because she seems very intelligent, well articulated, and in my opinion has a clear view of justice and everybody has to call her dumb or stupid because of her color specifically. Hypothetically if you disagree with her why do you even have to mention her color. Also in my opinion that Rachel Maddow is completely emotional she's barely keeping her composure and exaggerating every point she makes.
DTDB1225: How can anybody hate Rachel Maddow!? She's reasonable in this video segment, she brings up good points even if you don't agree with her opinion, it's good to have her as part of any conversation involving media or politics
I feel bad for Amy because she seems very intelligent, well articulated, and in my opinion has a clear view of justice and everybody has to call her dumb or stupid because of her color specifically. Hypothetically if you disagree with her why do you even have to mention her color. Also in my opinion that Rachel Maddow is completely emotional she's barely keeping her composure and exaggerating every point she makes.
A lot of the time when i hear Bill O'Reilly report on something about gay rights, or something about black people, or "The Liberals"; There's some morally bankrupt person out there just like him saying to themselves: "Thank you Mr. White Mail Reality!".
Just for perspective to all those saying that Amy Holmes is some kind of a traitor, please understand that she isn't descended from African-American slaves. She was also raised primarily by a white parent in a very white city. She is not of the mainstream black American culture. So, while I don't agree at all with her comments, I think some black folks need to tone down their vitriol. She's not nearly as much of an Uncle Tom as Clarence Thomas.
rachel is so right, her analogy to the women and math proved her point; once again she makes the people around her look incredibly unintelligent, gotta love her and gotta give her credit for looking super cute while doing it!
i dunno, i think the comments were more stereotypical than racist. and what gets me is that howard kurtz says that o'reilly was making a comparison to rappers, gangsters and thugs and the way they act in public...i'm still looking for the part of the statement where o'reilly himself makes that comparison. i hadn't heard it or read it anywhere. please someone let me know where i can find the entire soundbyte.
Amy Holmes is hard to listen to. I actually feel sorry for her. She reminds me of abuse victims, who keep making excuses for their attacker. "He really didn't mean it that way."
Well, Bill O'Reily may not have meant for it to be racist, but it still doesn't change the fact that it was.
I hate how black conservatives play house nigger to these white conservatives like little monkeys. It's a damn shame that Rachel Maddow had to argue with this house nigger that what he said was racist. Why are all black conservatives house niggers? I have yet to see one black conservative that doesn't act like this. They're like the new age slaves. A white man could call her nigger to her face and she would probably stand there and say, "yes massa".
You know, I think you have touched on something important, and that is that just like Bill O'Reilly's expectations were racist because of his assumptions about African Americans, we shouldn't assume that every black person has the same point of view. As Amy Holmes said herself, she thinks that O'Reilly is just unfamiliar with the "black middle class." I think we need to understand how race and class, and even gender, are all intimately intertwined issues. That said, Go Rachel!
rachel maddow is so much more intelligent and articulate than amy holmes. but really how could anyone argue that o'reilly's comments weren't racist. I mean just admit it.
Amy Holmes is a conservative Republican and we all know that Bill O'riely and Fox News are the epitome of conservativism. Of course shes going to come to the aid of Bill O'riely and downplay the the severity of his, in my opinion, racial remarks.
I personally think shes a little disilusioned but thats just me....
Yeah because if they are poor and African American they can't possible run a restaurant and patrons can only swear when ordering their food. Is Amy out of her mind? I've been to local eateries all across the US and in several socio-economic areas and what I've seen is politeness is the norm, and people are there, for the most part, to get good service and good food. Unbelievable. Talk about making excuses for stupidity and ignorance.
Rachel Maddow was definitely on point. Bill O'Reilly's comments showed that he is totally clueless and ignorant and I don't think he even realizes the degree/extent of his buffoonery. How can anyone like him have a national TV and radio show. Definitely not based on merit. Scary!!
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rachel makes a good point and she's spot on with everything she said. amy is just a black face put on by CNN to to defend o'reilly's statements and try to counter rachel's points, which she failed to do. i don't think Amy's even been around too many african-americans.
Thanks to Rachel for being an advocate for common sense. She is obviously on point and clear about Bill O's "state of mind" which is the entire issue at large. If he's thinking this way and speaking this way, then he's also influencing this way. The racist, disconnected way. Everything past that is AFTER. AFTER BILL already made the mistake; AFTER someone in the press picked it up and ran with it. And this had nothing to do with a smear campaign. He was trying to save his ass.
yeah, life's hard. Im no more stoic than you, i end up muting and changing the channel frequently. He doesnt have any new tricks, so ive tried checking out other conservatives, like glenn beck.
I never thought I would "defend" O'Reilly but if you assume he was being sarcastic and just making fun of racists than it really would have been taken out of context. On the other hand: This would imply he actually has some sense of humor.
amy holmes is another house negro. why did she bring up the black middle class? oreilly said BLACK people not middle class so considering all the elite blacks that he's met as she said it doesnt matter what class black u are. i get sick of these wannabe included, got my degree negros who feel the need to separate themselves from other blacks. so you mean lower class blacks cant be classy?
because its inherently racist, i may agree to the general point, but you can criticize someone w/o taking away there racial identity. its a cheap shot from a cheap person. like bill.
its not a cheap shot shot if its the truth. what about her comments as to say bill wasnt talking about middle class blacks? she is saying that middle class blacks are better than lower class blacks. thats a cheap shot cuz bill said blacks period.
Amy Holmes is dick! NPR turned down President Bush because it has rules/principles that must be followed even at the cost of an interview. Something Amy and her right wing assholes would not know anything about. Principles come first or do they only matter when you're in the church JesusFREAKS! Geesh!
Howard Kurtz is a hack. Why is he still on the air? He's now defending Bill O'Reilly and trying to lessen the incredible damage he is doing to the country. It won't be long till this loser will be on Fox News, its where he belongs.
The only good thing that came out of Bill looking like an ignorant racist fool is that it brought free advertising for one of the best restaurant in all of NYC.Go to Sylvia's at Lexingtoin Ave and 126th, its always the first place I go to when I visit NYC. Mrs. Woods herself is often in the restaurant and is a very kind and warm person.
baritonebynight 4 weeks ago
I think Bill O Reilly just watch way to much BET.
Firstblk 2 months ago
MOTHER FUCKER I NEED MORE MUTHA FUCKIN ICED TEAAA BITCHHH
Macaframa1 4 months ago
@ConciousHipHop - I used the word "ain't" in an ironic way. To say something "ain't" something is a very old saying. You are pointing out the misuse of language by misusing language. It's a form of irony.
wetlazer 5 months ago
Amy, incentivize ain't a word.
wetlazer 5 months ago
@wetlazer neither is "aint" lol
ConciousHipHop 5 months ago
@ConciousHipHop "ain't" IS indeed a word, and a very interesting one. It's about 400 years old and it's used in many different dialects. Nowadays, whether we like it or not, even "gotta" and "wanna" could be considered words. Still ... do you care? Probably not, eh? lol
isbourne 1 month ago
I think Rachael would rock Amy's world. Be a hot video.
wetlazer 5 months ago
woah fancy that O'reilly, balck people sitting in a cafew without killing eachother! almost human hey?! amazing!
i think its hilarious how astonished he is that people with a darker skin pigmentation can sit and enjoy a coffee.
DemoraX 5 months ago
The media perpetuates and promotes stereotypes with Black people acting like idiots on music videos, and movies(criminals), and then get on people LIKE Bill O'reilly about being surprised. IT the MEDIA itself that makes blacks look a certain way. It's not just an embarrassment to Himself, but also for the MEDIA's betrayal of black people!
Creationcreed 6 months ago
rachel maddows a fucking dyke go fuck urself u over educated lesbo
pecker101010 6 months ago
@pecker101010 "u over educated"..I love your sarcasm, I mean being "over educated" is a bad thing !! Very funny, thank you.
I'm sure you don't think that "uneducated" is a good thing.
bakersteven3 6 months ago
Juan Williams isn't at NPR anymore! Bazinga!
warjikin 7 months ago
This all stems from his choice of the phrase "I couldn't get over the fact..." That's it. No "surprise" etc.
He condemned racism, but used phrasing that shows a racist impulse AS A WRONG IMPULSE.
Sheesh.
This is exactly as stupid as O'Reilly condemning Sherrod as racist, when ultimately that wasn't the point.
So nobody can honestly admit prejudiced impulses AS WRONG.
Just pass judgement on the POINT of the story told, not the middle part that represents flaws to be overcome.
redbulldog 11 months ago
So he was suprised that the blacks acted civilized. Proving he previously thought of them as possibly barbaric, rude, loud mouthed, and vulgar. (Vulgar hint his Motherfucker get me some tea comment).
Before I dug into this topic I dismissed it as the media overblowing something and I had Bill already declared innocent in my mind, but now I see the truth.
ProRanting 1 year ago
I feel like Rachel is looking at her with a very strong desire to punch her in the face. I don't think I would have that much restraint.
chevon1920 1 year ago
This Amy person is an IDIOT, and an APOLOGIST. Rachel Maddow has more guts to speak out on O'Reilly's RACIST REMARKS.
I hate how Amy confines her remarks to "the black middle class". What is her problem? Who is this woman??
She seems extraordinarily FEARFUL to speak the TRUTH.
Blactor 1 year ago
Why is Amy kissing Bill's ass?
MrChristmas365 1 year ago
she quoted George bush......................that alone should tell you how reliable she is....
caciquepadilla 1 year ago
Problem with the Italian Restaurant is that it is "the Olive Garden" Owned by a corporation that is run by wasps that control over 90% of the wealth in the U.S.
KozmoJ68 1 year ago
I guess Bill should've waited for the New Black Panthers' King Semir Shabazz's lecture at Sylvia's. He's hammering away at Fox and the Jews. Check out the video here on YouTube. ;-)
Sorry4DoublePosting 1 year ago
You got to admit it.
Bill is very smooooooooooooooooooooth.
He can call your mother a fat ugly whore righ to your face and you wouldnt even notice it.
redman7771red17 1 year ago
I despise Bill, but I don't think he's a racist. But he did f@&k up and try to cover for it by using his Bully tactic on other networks.
Hey Bill, you made a mistake, just admit it already.
anthonynguyen2007 1 year ago
The people commenting on this video are morons. Amy is not a "self-hating black person" simply because she's intelligent enough to understand that O'Reilly, with whom she has spent time with (as opposed to Madcow), is not a racist. The guy was simply pointing out the fact that black stereotypes are not true. Anyone who actually watches his show regularly would know O'Reilly cannot even be considered racist. All of this is absolute nonsense.
getdjman 1 year ago
@getdjman: well i do watch his show regularly in order to have something to make fun of and the things he's said about Arab-Americans, African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans and Jews is verging on racist. he's just smart enough to make it subtle. get real! bill o'reilly is as racist as they come.
MsDDiddy 1 year ago
What does he think, blacks are hanging from the roof and screaming. He's an idiot. I've been to restaurants in Italy (sometimes people are loud, sometimes they're not.)
Amy is an idiot ! Rachel is awesome. BRAVISSIMA
allegromarcato 1 year ago
This is hilarious because Rachel Maddow is supporting the black community and the Amy who is black isn't.
rajsuckslikehell 1 year ago 3
I'd rather go to a black restaurant than an Italian one.
Italians are usually loud,dumb, and obnoxious.
geekstar9 1 year ago
@geekstar9 you sir, are an asshole
singer101 1 year ago
I love how Rachel thinks it's racist yet Amy doesn't. Amy comes off like a self-hating black.
vdub350 1 year ago 3
Why wouldn't eating at Sylvia's be like eating at any other well run restaurant in the United States? Bill O'Reilly is clearly out of touch. This is evident by his own words. I don't think he even realizes his mistake. Obviously he has no idea how real people behave and has been content to believe and promote negative stereotypes.
MlleButterfly 1 year ago
Bill O'Reilly is a Racist, Decrepit, Insular, Maladroit, Smoldering Pile of Feces.
AnonymousWhitePerson 1 year ago 3
Rachel Maddow is so Awesome.
AnonymousWhitePerson 1 year ago 5
@AnonymousWhitePerson And so cute!
Boobalopbop 1 year ago
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AnonymousWhitePerson 1 year ago
Bill O'Reilly is a Racist Piece of Shit.
AnonymousWhitePerson 1 year ago 3
I hope Amy Holmes wasn't thinking for herself and she was just supposed to say that stuff. If O'Reilly had said oh Amy when I met you I expected you to have 2 babies on your hip and demand that Soulja boy's music be played in the background during our talk, maybe she would have thought THAT was racist.
Bill O'Reilly was totally racist. There's no way you can defend that, and I can see Bill O'Reilly defending himself. But Amy Holmes needs to open her eyes.
Bravo to Maddow. She's so awesome!
angelchild829 1 year ago 4
It's a damn shame when a yt woman can see how stupid and prejudice Bill O's comments are. Yet some snooty ass black conservative makes excuses for his ass!!! But go figure that is what I expect from Amy Holmes (rolling my eyes).
Ediva75 1 year ago
O'Reilly put his foot in his mouth all the way up to the ankle. I don't think he's a racist, "soft bigotry of low expectations" hits it right on the head. Maddow needs to mellow out a little bit.
pworam68 2 years ago
All I gotta say is......... Mothafucka where my iced tea at?!
bronxknight 2 years ago 3
Bill O'Faggot is a racist, retarded, douchebag.
onereallybadgirl 2 years ago
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wow the level of stupidity of this dumb moronic liberal known as rachel maddow has no limits the more i watch her the more i wish some one would just wrap tape around her mouth and throw her in the trunk of a car.... there's a difference between being racist and proving a point its so simple what doesnt she understand about it so is joe b, racist as well lets go of on him stupid cunt stf up
aviles1323 2 years ago
hahaha . wow..are u really a o reilly fan.. or are u juss tryin to make o reilly fans look retarded.. by writing a stupid ass comment? i noticed how u dont like people talkin about the TRUTH.. what if i said. I went to camping in the woods.. and i saw a group of white people.. and i saw a black man walkin by the road... and these white people.DIDNT lynch him and hang him. i was sooo suprised.. none of the white people even yelled out "HEY NIGGR"or nothing like that. how nice of these whities..
tigerjonn 2 years ago
i forgot what it is i wrote and no im not an oreily fan .... but ok you stupid liberal point is rachel maddow is a dumb ass who hangs of obama nutts and would love to take a shot at bill oreily i mean this benefits her .... oreily said the truth simple as that and like he said msnbc far left propaganda
aviles1323 2 years ago
YES... O RILEy wasnt LYING..thats the fucken point...the point that O reilly REALLY expected... to see some crazy black people...going all monkey crazy.. in some crazy black resturant... but when he found out... tat black people are actually PEOPLE.... And isnt going all crazy... he was SUPRISED as FUCK.... TATS whats RACIST.. if u dont understand why tats racists... its prolly cause ur ignorant...or racist....
tigerjonn 2 years ago
If you actually listen to the ENTIRE tape - Bill is condeming racism as being stupid and ignorant. His point was that had he had a grandmother who was a biggot and afraid of black people and his observation was that her views were illinformed and ignorant and stupid and that if she had ever spent time with people of color she would see how wrong she was because as Bill observed being in sylvias was no different than being in any other restaurant. He wasnt surpirsed by it, he denounced racisim
docdave20 2 years ago
he was speaking to people who are bigots or racists and saying - "you're wrong and you're stupid
docdave20 2 years ago
what the hell are u talkin about.. he was suprised by how a black resturant isnt all in chaos and shootings..he COULDNT get over the fact... that sylvias was the same... as any other..(white) resturants in newyork.... and he thinks he was paying black people a compliment.. u probably do to...but the fact that he expected to go into a black resturant. and expect it to be way different from any of the white resturants he has been in. is ignorant in itself.. racist? iono.. but sure damn ignorant.
tigerjonn 2 years ago
You probably didn't listen to the enitre tape and even if he did you would not keep an open mind - you're like many, not all, but many liberals who claim to be so tolerant and for the people but god forbid someone disagrees with you, you label them as racist. He was denouncing bigotry and racism - listen to the tape his actual words - not other people's interpretation of what he said. He was commenting that there is no difference - he was making the point that racism is wrong.
docdave20 2 years ago
Again - if you are objective and listen to the ENTIRE tape - there's only one conclusion. If on the other hand you are a Bill O hater and you only look for him to say wrong things than you're going to come up with the opinion that you have - but most fair minded people who listen to the ENTIRE tape would say Bill was denouncing racism and bigotry. As far as your "u proably do to" commment proves my point that anyone who disagrees with you gets called racist. We just have a different POV
docdave20 2 years ago
yea there is only one conclusion.. and its that bill is a ignorant taard... people who asked him logical and very good questions that would prove him wrong.. he usually just gets mad.. and trash talks.. ignorance... he dosent look for the truth.. he just tries to make u look wrong.. obviously ur juss a riley fan... and ur trying to defend him..
tigerjonn 2 years ago 2
I like Bill, sure, but I'm not a kool-aid drinker - if he said something racist I would be the first to call him on it. He never said he was suprised, he never said that he was expecting it to be different - you're interpreting what hesaid as surprise and that he actually expected those things to be happening because you're blinded by your hatred of him. Instead of interpreting what he said you're interpreting what you think he meant.
docdave20 2 years ago
" there wasnt.. one person.. in sylivias.. yelling... mfer.. i want more iced tea..."
"and there wasnt any kind of craziness at all"
"i couldnt..get over the fact... that sylvias was the same as any other resturaunt in new york city"
are u fucken kidding me? i dont kno what quote u heard.. but tats ignorant as they come... and tis guy heads a serious TV show? u gota be fucken kidding me...
" and i couldnt believe how
enough said.....
tigerjonn 2 years ago
Remember that conversation about race Obama said we never finished. Bill O tried to have a conversation about race in a positive way by denouncing biggoted and racist stereotypes and he gets killed for it. We'll never finish that conversation as long as it is a fixed deck where people are so afraid of being "perceived" to have said the wrong thing that they wind up not saying anything at all. Bill went on the air and said we're all the same and racism is wrong and hes demonized for it.
docdave20 2 years ago
thats the only thing i listend too.. i never even heard of somone elses comments about his comment.. " he was commenting there is no difference" < you said that.... but the fact that he was expecting somthing different in the first place... is ignorant.. obviously u dont get that... the fact.. that he was SUPRISED... to find out.. there was no difference.. in a black resturant..ignorant... and if u dont get that.. it because of ur own ignorance...
tigerjonn 2 years ago
okay... ur anti obama.... and so am i.... but WHY are u against obama ? is it juss because ur a republican... or because obama basically is continuing what stupid ass bush has started... and even though obama promised change... so far it seems like he is another BUSH.... tats why i hate him... if u hate him cause ur republican... it dosent even make sense.. cause he is basically doing everything Bush would want him to do...
tigerjonn 2 years ago
o no being republican has nothing to do with it because even as a republican i didnt support of what bush did i can admit he was a horrible bigot president .... but my dislike of obama has to do with the facts that so many people drink the kool aid he serves and lie after lie comes out of the mans mouth his no better then bush.... he lied his way in to presidency he promised change etc etc. i mean i can just keep going and going
aviles1323 2 years ago
msnbc and cnn all the same its a dam shame cnn has fallen so low ....
and last that idiot rachel maddow is a stupid liberal and i mean stupid ... i would love to see her go up against bill she would get completely owned
aviles1323 2 years ago
(said in Mortal Kombat tone) "Rachel Maddow Wins....Flawless Victory."
backfatforyou 2 years ago 6
Amy Holmes, WHAT THE FUCK?! Rachel Maddow is running circles around her, and it's sad.
p44rty 2 years ago 5
LMAO at this dumb broad. SHE'S supposed to represent the argument from the BLACK persepective? lol Maaaan....She's like the snake version of that Ruckus dude from the Boondocks cuz her punkass tryna coon around to make Bill-O the clown look like a victim. Just goes to show the world how Fox Noise be feeding their audience toxic shit.
NMiLLZ 2 years ago
Amy is embarrassing herself.
Rachel is sitting there bewildered that she doesn't feel there is a twinge of racism in his comment. Racism is based on ignorance Amy. They are not necessarily mutually exclusive.
HabitualNightOwl 3 years ago 21
I feel bad for Amy because she seems very intelligent, well articulated, and in my opinion has a clear view of justice and everybody has to call her dumb or stupid because of her color specifically. Hypothetically if you disagree with her why do you even have to mention her color. Also in my opinion that Rachel Maddow is completely emotional she's barely keeping her composure and exaggerating every point she makes.
Crbsee 2 years ago
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i hate rachel maddow
DTDB1225 3 years ago
DTDB1225: How can anybody hate Rachel Maddow!? She's reasonable in this video segment, she brings up good points even if you don't agree with her opinion, it's good to have her as part of any conversation involving media or politics
buckleycloud 2 years ago 6
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racist my ass... racheal is full of shit
thomasTANKbaber 3 years ago
wow, amy holmes is an apologetic black stepford-barbie republican self-hating tool. poor thing.
bluegrrl70 3 years ago 20
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I feel bad for Amy because she seems very intelligent, well articulated, and in my opinion has a clear view of justice and everybody has to call her dumb or stupid because of her color specifically. Hypothetically if you disagree with her why do you even have to mention her color. Also in my opinion that Rachel Maddow is completely emotional she's barely keeping her composure and exaggerating every point she makes.
Crbsee 2 years ago
A lot of the time when i hear Bill O'Reilly report on something about gay rights, or something about black people, or "The Liberals"; There's some morally bankrupt person out there just like him saying to themselves: "Thank you Mr. White Mail Reality!".
Angelflesh 3 years ago
Just for perspective to all those saying that Amy Holmes is some kind of a traitor, please understand that she isn't descended from African-American slaves. She was also raised primarily by a white parent in a very white city. She is not of the mainstream black American culture. So, while I don't agree at all with her comments, I think some black folks need to tone down their vitriol. She's not nearly as much of an Uncle Tom as Clarence Thomas.
ardiar2011 3 years ago
rachel is so right, her analogy to the women and math proved her point; once again she makes the people around her look incredibly unintelligent, gotta love her and gotta give her credit for looking super cute while doing it!
paipai913 3 years ago 5
i dunno, i think the comments were more stereotypical than racist. and what gets me is that howard kurtz says that o'reilly was making a comparison to rappers, gangsters and thugs and the way they act in public...i'm still looking for the part of the statement where o'reilly himself makes that comparison. i hadn't heard it or read it anywhere. please someone let me know where i can find the entire soundbyte.
kenpachi3733 3 years ago
Amy Holmes is hard to listen to. I actually feel sorry for her. She reminds me of abuse victims, who keep making excuses for their attacker. "He really didn't mean it that way."
Well, Bill O'Reily may not have meant for it to be racist, but it still doesn't change the fact that it was.
Athenaswind 3 years ago 8
Amy Holes is a racist amonst black people cause she hates her black side. she should be executed!
Phizer33 3 years ago
I hate how black conservatives play house nigger to these white conservatives like little monkeys. It's a damn shame that Rachel Maddow had to argue with this house nigger that what he said was racist. Why are all black conservatives house niggers? I have yet to see one black conservative that doesn't act like this. They're like the new age slaves. A white man could call her nigger to her face and she would probably stand there and say, "yes massa".
efeez1986 3 years ago 4
You know, I think you have touched on something important, and that is that just like Bill O'Reilly's expectations were racist because of his assumptions about African Americans, we shouldn't assume that every black person has the same point of view. As Amy Holmes said herself, she thinks that O'Reilly is just unfamiliar with the "black middle class." I think we need to understand how race and class, and even gender, are all intimately intertwined issues. That said, Go Rachel!
brwnpaprbg 3 years ago
agreed! that bitch is racists herself! biracial self hyatred. trust me..I know! lol
Phizer33 3 years ago
go rachel!
cocolahtay 3 years ago 3
Rachel always has her head on straight.
Bravo to NPR.
Amy Holmes is an elitist black, she has no
objective view to offer.
valjt6 3 years ago 5
What did she say about whit people behavior? The apex?
Visfen 3 years ago
rachel maddow is so much more intelligent and articulate than amy holmes. but really how could anyone argue that o'reilly's comments weren't racist. I mean just admit it.
jntco 3 years ago 7
Amy Holmes is a conservative Republican and we all know that Bill O'riely and Fox News are the epitome of conservativism. Of course shes going to come to the aid of Bill O'riely and downplay the the severity of his, in my opinion, racial remarks.
I personally think shes a little disilusioned but thats just me....
ZingZee123456789 3 years ago 2
Yeah because if they are poor and African American they can't possible run a restaurant and patrons can only swear when ordering their food. Is Amy out of her mind? I've been to local eateries all across the US and in several socio-economic areas and what I've seen is politeness is the norm, and people are there, for the most part, to get good service and good food. Unbelievable. Talk about making excuses for stupidity and ignorance.
LazarusDurden 3 years ago 3
amy holmes is actually stupid, i heard spike being critical of her but now i understand that she is really stupid and bamboozled!
olkainflex 3 years ago 3
Black republicans are confused, sad motherfuckers.
ESCOXTC 3 years ago 2
You're just another typical fuucked up "MOTHERFUCKER" yourself for saying that.
Blogdub 3 years ago 3
Nice hack job by CNN. Totally played the clips out of order
kirbymaster5 3 years ago
For a thesbian, i must say i like looking at ms Maddow, But im simply in live with Amy Holmes. She is the finest female ever.
dellwon 4 years ago
wow this amy character is quiet something...
no comment lol.
messierishome 4 years ago
Rachel Maddow was definitely on point. Bill O'Reilly's comments showed that he is totally clueless and ignorant and I don't think he even realizes the degree/extent of his buffoonery. How can anyone like him have a national TV and radio show. Definitely not based on merit. Scary!!
DivaNLA 4 years ago 6
Amy Holmes is hot. At 23, I would easily be the youngest date she ever had, but I'd totally be up for it.
allstar919 4 years ago
Me too. In more ways than one.
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ONEBADMO 4 years ago
rachel makes a good point and she's spot on with everything she said. amy is just a black face put on by CNN to to defend o'reilly's statements and try to counter rachel's points, which she failed to do. i don't think Amy's even been around too many african-americans.
ajre82 4 years ago 2
Thanks to Rachel for being an advocate for common sense. She is obviously on point and clear about Bill O's "state of mind" which is the entire issue at large. If he's thinking this way and speaking this way, then he's also influencing this way. The racist, disconnected way. Everything past that is AFTER. AFTER BILL already made the mistake; AFTER someone in the press picked it up and ran with it. And this had nothing to do with a smear campaign. He was trying to save his ass.
relentless 4 years ago 3
its a bit rude to take away someones ethnicity because you expect something different from them.
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago 2
understood. but Fox clearly put her up there to defend their point, and they chose her specifically to give their argument more weight.
ajre82 4 years ago
um hmm, no reason to trust fox. i just watch it for fun. and its good to know what the enemy thinks.
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago
valid point
but still i can't comfortably watch it
ajre82 4 years ago
yeah, life's hard. Im no more stoic than you, i end up muting and changing the channel frequently. He doesnt have any new tricks, so ive tried checking out other conservatives, like glenn beck.
he's like an evil yogi bear.
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago
Rachel Maddow is an idiot. Until she quits her lesbianism she has no right to call bill o'
Reilly a buffoon.
TheTristMan 4 years ago
what the fuck are you talking about? she cant really stop being a lesbian, but you Could stop being a bigot. no point expecting that, though.
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago 6
I never thought I would "defend" O'Reilly but if you assume he was being sarcastic and just making fun of racists than it really would have been taken out of context. On the other hand: This would imply he actually has some sense of humor.
wittyvegan 4 years ago
amy holmes is another house negro. why did she bring up the black middle class? oreilly said BLACK people not middle class so considering all the elite blacks that he's met as she said it doesnt matter what class black u are. i get sick of these wannabe included, got my degree negros who feel the need to separate themselves from other blacks. so you mean lower class blacks cant be classy?
oaktownA 4 years ago
please dont say "house negro", at least not in public.
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago
i can say whatever i want. if thats what she is then thats what she is. did i say nigga, no i didnt so what the hell is your problem?
oaktownA 4 years ago
because its inherently racist, i may agree to the general point, but you can criticize someone w/o taking away there racial identity. its a cheap shot from a cheap person. like bill.
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago
its not a cheap shot shot if its the truth. what about her comments as to say bill wasnt talking about middle class blacks? she is saying that middle class blacks are better than lower class blacks. thats a cheap shot cuz bill said blacks period.
oaktownA 4 years ago
Amy Holmes is dick! NPR turned down President Bush because it has rules/principles that must be followed even at the cost of an interview. Something Amy and her right wing assholes would not know anything about. Principles come first or do they only matter when you're in the church JesusFREAKS! Geesh!
WTFisWrongUSA 4 years ago
I love how media matters simply puts up direct quotes of him and THAT is what makes them a "slime machine".
Fact if, he doesn't want to be held accountable for the shit he says.
InTheCompanyOfMorons 4 years ago
Many thanks to duckofprey! I'm cable-challenged and often your kind postings are the only way I can get my Rachel on the TV Machine fixes!
ShelaghCol 4 years ago
Glad to help!
duckofprey 4 years ago
Howard Kurtz is a hack. Why is he still on the air? He's now defending Bill O'Reilly and trying to lessen the incredible damage he is doing to the country. It won't be long till this loser will be on Fox News, its where he belongs.
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