I think he thinks he's being funny, yet he is trying to reinforce stereotypes on to a group to make him feel better about his own beliefs and feel like a part of the group. His remarks are tantamount to saying someone possesses certain behavioral traits because of the color of their skin (for example). I know a lot of vegetarians and vegans who eat what they eat because they believe it's noble and just feel it's right, not just for the sake of being different. It's very personal.
First of all, I eat fish and seafood. Yet, I still think his message is hateful. He goes on the attack by basically saying everyone who doesn't eat meat is ignorant, elitist and exudes a holier-than-thou attitude. People shouldn't be worried about offending other people by refusing to eat their meat dishes because you should never be forced to compromise your own beliefs. He's basically saying society's beliefs are more important than an individual's beliefs.
@bigshrimpn Spoken like a true rude selfish American. Ofcourse AMERICANS don't care who they offend because it's all about ME ME ME. In other NORMAL cultures around the world, people understand that we as humans live in a SOCIETY, where human interaction and "not" offending others is part of daily life. I challenge you to live in one of these NON SELFISH cultures for 3 months and then get back to me on how much you don't care if you offend other people.
With all the meat he eats, can you imagine how bad his breath is the next day while recovering from a hangover plus the stink in the bathroom while he strains a constipated meat BM. I feel bad for his wife lol
This is just plain ignorant. Just strictly from a food point of view, He could have just as easily passed up a great veggy dish because he took a meat dish instead. So this arguement is nonsense.
@TheMindfulOne I don't necessarily agree. I too find most vegetarians to be completely shrill and annoying. I know this is a massive, sweeping generalization, but it's based on my experiences going to an American Art college with people who have felt it necessary to politicize food. I'm also from one of the foreign cultures of which he speaks, and I have felt this way for a very long time, and would have never expected anyone, especially an American, to so perfectly phrase my own thoughts.
@dataslul Whether or not vegetarians are annoying or not was not my point. All I was arguing was that he could have just as easily passed up a great veggy dish because he took a meat dish instead. If your going to respond to my comment at least keep it about my comment.
@TheMindfulOne The annoying part was out of line with my thesis, and I apologize. I lost track by accurately stating that vegetarians are annoying. Aside from being totally obvious, it does nothing to further this high minded dialogue. But, since we're on the subject, Bourdain worked in professional kitchens for about 25 years. Don't you think he had at least one opportunity to sample vegetarian cuisine? Do you really think he hasn't tried almost anything there is to try?
@dataslul There are always new things to try. There's no way anyone has seen it all or tasted it all including AB. That's why he traveled the world to get a better understanding. But even he hasn't done it all and to think so is foolish.
@qoaa And you don't think that man vs food is a show for retards? And it's SO popular! Go to a convalescent hospital and check out all the aging meat-eaters who all fit-in with each other with matching depends diapers and then tell me who the retards are. Meat-eaters are carnitards in disgustingly large numbers, are destroying the environment, cause animal suffering, clog up hospitals, and are the annoying ones who take up too much time at the public toilet when I have to take a nice vegan shit!
@nairategev I would happily die of colon cancer or a massive red meat fueled hear attack if it means that I got to spend time eating tripe and calf brains with my dad, and talk about our culture and hear about the many generations of cattle ranchers that came before him. But I know it won't happen anyway. My grandfather lived till he was 100, and he ate meat until the very end. My parents are healthy 70 year-olds, and avid beef lovers. Get off your high horse, dude.
@dataslul ya and people have won the lottery and fallen out of airplanes without a parachute and survived. I'm a nurse and most of what I do is take care of aging meat-eaters and it's not a pretty way to go downhill so get on a higher horse you wanker. lol
@nairategev Members of my family lived in the hills and ate meat and typically lived longer than a majority of our country of origin and even the US in modern times. There are other lifestyle factors, you wanker. Better yet, I'd be more than happy to take your horse and braise it slowly. Horse is delicious.
@dataslul Ha ha ha you'll end up like one of my patients with some horse and other meat flesh stuck in his colon...bed sores, diapers, 20 different pills, a piss bag, possibly a colostomy bag, etc and die a slow painful death like the creatures you eat did and it serves you right! Genetic strength breaks down as it goes into future generations. Your parents won the genetic lottery...it doesn't mean you will. Unless you have a shitload of money for a caregiver like me, you'll end up in a "home".
@nairategev I'd prefer to die from painful colon cancer than to have to put up vegetarians for even a solitary second. Totally worth it, especially if I get to crap my pants and you have to clean it up and wipe my butt. A perfect fate for us both. Cannot wait. See you there.
it is possible to refrain from eating animals in the US and eat very well, there's really no reason to have to eat it here. I am veggie, but eat meat only while travelling internationally- it's important to truly experience a culture and not offend anyone. People can save animals from suffering on a regular basis and still experience life as a food lover.
@plugrapls Please don't consider yourself a vegetarian if you eat meat occasionally. It's pretty clear that you're not and it's offensive to those that are.
@Pertrosfoliea Sure, sad, but not offended. Refusing meat because of some ridiculous moralistic bullshit, on the other hand, be prepared for some comments. And no. I actually like eating some vegetarian dishes as an appetizer time to time--especially Korean Monk food. Great stuff. The results are often very interesting when you try to maximize the flavor profile of veggies.
@Pertrosfoliea Anyway, my friend has a peanut allergy and has emergency room visits to show for it. I'm sure he is thrilled to hear that his allergy is comparable to a voluntary lifestyle choice--vegetarianism.
@globalforce Sure, being your friend he probably wouldn't respect moral choices. My boyfriend is allergic to all nuts, some seeds, all furry animals and birds, yet he agrees with me... I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with saying no to food because you're allergic, I'm saying it's not wrong to say no to food because you stand for something!
@Pertrosfoliea "Sure, being your friend he probably wouldn't respect moral choices."
Sigh. How typical. Tell me, what part of your "morality" tells you to spout snide, personal insinuations about a person that you never had any sort of contact with whatsoever? At any rate, my point stands. Equating a health condition with a VOLUNTARY act is as ridiculous as... oh, I don't know, not eating meat because of "moral" reasons.
@Pertrosfoliea "Standing for something," you say. "Moral choice," you say. HA.
Maybe I should take a moral stand here too. Lets see. I hereby declare that, since God made us in his image, and we are, in nature, omnivores, that refusing meat voluntarily is a voluntary rejection of our very nature, and, furthermore, God's image, which our nature is based upon. Thus, vegetarians are a blight in defiance of God and nature, and their claims of being friendly to nature is nothing more than heresy.
@Pertrosfoliea Now, was that crazy? Yes. But since we are playing the "kowtow to any kind of stupid bullshit as long as someone calls it 'moral'" game, my "moral" bullshit should command equal amount of respect as your "moral" bullshit. Of course, in the real world, my "moral" bullshit and your "moral" bullshit should enjoy equal lack of respect.
Correction. You have the luxory of living as a vegan. A whole fracking lot of the rest of the world does not. Get off you cross. #Reason vegans are thought of as douchebags.
RUDE?!!! FUCKEM' IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND MY BELIEFS, MORALS AND ETHICS THEN TOO BAD!!! IT'S A 2 WAY STREET AND IT THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND IF I LIVE AS A VEGAN.
I agree that traveling and trying to blend into local food ways with vegans or vegetarians is the worst cultural slight once can commit. The no I can't, won't disdainfulness of those who are not open minded always bring shame to the rest of us who have eat and tried. And while I am not supporting dog as a protein, I do find vegans the hight of arrogance in places where types of food is not a lifestyle choice but a basic necessity.
I agree that traveling and trying to blend into local food ways with vegans or vegetarians is the worst cultural slight once can commit. The no I can't, won't disdainfulness of those who are not open minded always bring shame to the rest of us who have eat and tried. And while I am not supporting dog as a protein, I do find vegans the hight of arrogance in places where food is not a lifestyle choice but a basic necessity.
Yeah, okay, we have a limited time on earth, so let's make sure we kill and eat as many animals as possible. What bullshit. Vegetarians exist all over the planet and it has nothing to do with being a Western culture luxury. And it is not rude to anybody. Bourdain is just another asshole hypocrite. Slammed every celebrity chef there was--and then woke up one day and found himself a celebrity chef, and all of sudden he softens his views.
@Fantumh Vegetarianism in East Asia was pretty much confined to Buddist monks until a new generation of pampered children decided that they liked having "first world complaints" too. The prevailing attitude was and still is, "sure, if you are a monk(meaning, "a bit off"), you only eat veggies, but you only eat veggies as a secular lifestyle???"
I guarantee you. If you go to South Korea to eat and start spewing shit about "not wanting meat," the people in the establishment will be VERY annoyed.
@globalforce I'm not sure what you're point is. So what if traveling around Korea as a vegetarian is difficult. My guess you and Bourdain are the only ones VERY annoyed, whereas if said veg. is flexible and enthusiastic about what they will try, the people of Korea will be as accommodating as possible. As possible is no doubt the optimal phrase. It's not vegetarians who are rude and arrogant, but people like you and Bourdain.
@globalforce Maybe you're just jealous that vegetarians can think beyond their pampered, selfish little lives and consider the health of the earth....? Or are you resentful that they can be disciplined enough to follow a moral code when your only moral code is the hedonistic fulfillment of your desires...?
@Fantumh "the people of Korea will be as accommodating as possible."
As one of the "people of Korea," I will assure you that your assertion is simply not true--unless you go to monastaries and their food is quite nice.
Anyway, thanks, doctor Phill. Your last comment perfectly demonstrates why I cannot stand vegetarians like you. See, I have no problem people eating crappy food. What I do have, is a hatred against such "baffling" display of moral superiority and stupidity.
@Fantumh At any rate, the inevitable tendency of the likes of you to immediately resort to personal attacks and some cookie-cutter moralizing rhetoric to attack the others is both tragic, and very, very entertaining. I am starting to suspect that there exists a vegi-supremacist equivalent of Fox News.
Of course, I jest. But having sampled your kind's literature before, I am quite certain that there exists a religious, cult-like ferver in your community. "WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN?"
@globalforce I have a Korean girlfriend, and I was surprised at the culture's love affair with red meat in particular. I have been eating skirt steak at Mexican cook offs since I was a wee little boy, but I know firmly believe that Koreans by far make the best skirt steak. Before people make yet another simple minded assessment of what life is like in the far east, perhaps they should move to the Korean countryside and subsist mainly on kimchee.
@dataslul Haha, hear hear. Back home, just eating rice & kimchi is a regular practice, but no one ever really likes to do it if they have a choice. It's kind of like cheese sandwhich that way--"oh crap, I have no other food in the fridge" or "oh crap, I am broke as shit." It's also a classic way for parents to show kids that they have done something really bad--spanking is one thing, but to take away something from their diet? Oh, you better believe they did SOMETHING.
@MichaelPZeitgeist As opposed to what? Chasing ghosts? I am perfectly happy buying and enjoying nice things and having a ball of a time. You should try making some money.
This argument is ridiculous. He's using this very rare situation to bash on vegetarians and our "privilege" when in reality he is a privileged westerner who gets to travel to exotic locales and fetishize food.
My husband and I backpacked through Siberia. We camped at a lake and an obviously poor couple came over & kindly offered us cheese sandwiches & fish stew. We ate the broth & potatoes & avoided the fish. Easy. They were not offended and were totally understanding of our vegetarianism.
It's pretty arrogant (and ignorant) to say that the Vietnamese wouldn't get a person abstaining from meat and that they would have been offended and horrified. I've traveled extensively in Vietnam, and they have a ton of vegetarianism there (like any country with lots of Mahayana Buddhists)
He's wrong. There's nothing wrong with vegetarians 'cheating' every once and awhile for once in a lifetime experiences, but you can't live your life thinking "well I'm only going to live once so I'll just consume everything I can and fuck the rest".
Mankind has been eating red meat for an estimated two million years. The proteins found in bone marrow played a critical part in brain evolution. Truth is vegetarians are the backward savages.
@bryanjones007 Except civilization wouldn't exist with vegetables. Animals cannot sustain large populations of humans because they breed to little, produce little food and not enough meat. So you can't maintain a city with cows. You need agriculture to feed those cows. But why feed the cows when you can just skip that step and feed the city. Without massive populations, civilization wouldn't exist.
And proteins are found in a variety of other non-meat foods.
i feel vegetarians are spoiled, theyre like ok since im vegetarian your gonna have to cook differently for me, i just saw a video on a girl thats vegetarian and she said was like salad and other vegetarian options werent good enough for her, im like wth?
@Jesuslovespunks182 If you're a host, you should be willing to serve your guest accordingly. I agree it's stupid for a vegetarian to say "nope, not good enough for me". But if you know someone is Hindu or vegetarian you should aspire to not offend their moral and religious beliefs. It's like serving pork when having your Muslim or Jewish friends over. Yeah, you shouldn't be their slave to their beliefs. But it's still a dick move.
i know the kinds of sushi places he's talking about. used to get free tidbits all the time, because we were very excited about the experience, and were willing to try almost anything. and i know what he's talking about on vegetarians. any culture, no matter how poor, if they have an important guest will bring out all of their best meat dishes they normally couldn't afford. to reject the offering is unbearably rude. so if you CAN make yourself eat it, do so.
I don't care if you're a meat-eater, vegetarian, raw food purist, or whatever. It just annoys the shit out of me when people can't take spicy food, order a steak well-done, or say, eat sushi with only soy sauce and no wasabi. Have you eaten with these ppl? You want to smack them, shove a pvc pipe down their throats, and pour their "on the side" dressing into their disapproving faces. *I used to work in a restaurant.
Vegetarianism isn't simply a Western fad, I'm not vegetarian simply because I had some warped sense of moral superiority to everyone else and decided to stop eating meat. There are several traditionally vegetarian traditions out there, where vegetarianism stretches back literally thousands of years. I was born into this culture and have never eaten meat not simply as a matter of choice, but as a matter of cultural obligation. So does Tony hate all vegetarians, or just those who have converted?
@Dzongka Bourdain only holds this grudge against those who have converted, mostly those who have the 'privilege' to denounce meat. He is aware of religious/cultural traditions concerning vegetarianism and doesn't hold a grievance against that. A video found here on Youtube where he clarifies between the two is Authors@Google: Anthony Bourdain at time 35:30.
So what I am saying is that the majority of patients that are really ill are not vegetarians but meat eaters. I am not a vegetarian. And I see what is going on.He makes fun of vegetarians which is really stupid. Again the majority of patients we receive are not vegetarians. There must be something to what they are saying.I have been looking and was very suprised.I think that I will give it a try. It can`t hurt.
Also I work in one of the major hospitals in the United States,and I will tell you this , in the ten years that i have worked there and taken care of very sick patients, and I mean cancer patients, 99 percent of the patients are not vegetarian. In all of my years I have worked there I have taken care of about 10 vegetarian patients. And that is a small amount compared to the volume of patients we receive each week, which is about 16 to 18 a week. Time that by 52 weeks.
I have watched his shows and He looks very unhealthy. He smokes which is really stupid and eats anything . He needs to be careful of his health. I think he looks terrible. His diet is not helping him.
“In the early 1960s, I became a vegetarian, and stayed strictly vegetarian for almost two years. But I contracted hepatitis and I went back to my old regime.”
– The Dalai Lama, 2004
“Of all things the two most essential for human life are chlorophyll and blood.”
– Rudolf Steiner, 1924
My sister stopped being vegetarian after reading the following two pages: scribd.com/doc/29583992/Vegetarianism-by-Samael-Aun-Weor-1972
He's essentially saying eat meat to be polite...pretty lazy argument. Lifestyle, cultural, or religious, choices can be respected through cultural borders. Doesn't matter the reasons for someones vegetarianism or non-vegetarianism; to imply that two people can't sit down and get along because they live in different ways is ironic coming from Bourdain. I don't think his comment/humor was meant to be malicious but sometimes you have to agree to disagree. That being said still love his work!
@outerpol Erm, health is a great reason in itself, but taste, animal welfare and the environment are perfectly valid reasons as well, and none of these can be denied.
Why do some meat-eaters get so angry and defensive about vegetarians? People can eat what they want, for whatever reason they want. I haven't eaten meat for 16 years and I never will again, on personal moral grounds. That's my choice and no one else's business, just as I have never told anyone else they shouldn't eat meat. What is wrong with you people? Stop trying to interfere, let others do what they want according to their own consciences.
Vegetarians disgusts me for the sole reason that they are vegetarian because of how they depict animals are treated. Consume consciously, in moderation, pay your respect to the animals that died for your consumption, and live with it. Vegetarians are the reason why there is a over supply of unconsumed meat. Rather than being vegetarian, eat your damn meat so the animal didn't die for nothing.
That is the most stupidest, dumbest thing I have heard. I mean how in the world is vegetarians responsible for unconsumed meat. I believe that if you are going to eat meat then you should not waste it. But I do not understand why you say vegetarians are responsible for the over supply of unconsumed meat. I was not aware that was a problem. And the meat is not grown for their consumption. That is just a very stupid comment. I mean just stupid. Ridiculous
I would want to accommodate my guest and make them a meal they would honestly enjoy. Being a vegetarian, though, I could see how this argument could be turned against me. Would I make a dish with meat for someone? No, I wouldn't. But I would definitely ask what some of their favorite meals are that don't have meat and make them a fantastic meatless meal. Perhaps even splurge on some meatless meat (Quorn, Boca, Morningstar, etc.) and add it to the meal. I don't know. Am I missing something here?
I'm not sure what to think about the "You're dissing another culture if you don't eat what they make for you" facet of this argument. Let's say someone from another country with an ethnic/religious/cultural background that abstains from eating meat visits me in America. I make them a typical 'American' meal that has meat in it without knowing anything about them. They then tell me that they don't eat meat. I know not everyone thinks like me, but I wouldn't get offended.
@Iscah i mean, you wouldn't be offended, but imagine if you were poor or it was hard to come by meat and it was expensive and or it was an integral part of your culture and history, and you went out of your way to obtain it for your guest. And then imagine your guest had the good fortune to be brought up in a western society that is generally more affluent and has the choice of being choosy about not eating meat, and he/she refuses your offering. It gives off a 'im better than you' vibe to them.
@yishbot Hmmm, I never thought of cost being a factor. I can see where you're coming from. I can't help but think that there's one being that's not included in the equation, though, and that's the animal that was killed for the meal. I may offend someone by refusing their meal, but a creature was killed. Personally, the latter would upset me more. I suppose, though, it all comes down to how an individual perceives animals and their relationship to them.
@yishbot Whoever you are, thanks. You hit the nail on the head. I hate it when westeners can't respect other cultures and expect countries halfway around the wold to have the same etiquette that the West has.
@Torgo224 It's unfortunate that some people don't want to understand others' cultures. However, I disagree that abstaining from eating meat in another country (no matter who it's made by) is disrespecting that person's culture. I think that there can be understanding on both sides as long as both parties are willing to compromise with each other in a respectful manner.
@Torgo224 I don't think that in order to appreciate/understand/love a certain culture one has to partake in every aspect of it. I don't think that just because one abstains from something in a culture, that it's a disconnect or a slight to that person's culture.
@Iscah I agree, it's just annoying that some people have to force their ways onto another culture without trying to make a compromise. I have been to a few of these places and I haven't eaten everything because of my personal choices, but at the same time I try to respect it, the people I'm complaining about are the narrow minded people who have an "it's my way or the highway" complex
@yishbot as a vegan i agree, its just like that scene from temple of doom. id never do that in a foreign culture. to me its just a diet and not something i want to be defined by. as a counter arguement to meat eaters, (most) meat eaters are wrong in their disposition towards people who maintain diets, simply because it makes them feel different or inadequate, which they shouldnt. i have no problem with people who eat meat, and i understand why they like it. but the feeling should be mutual imo..
@Iscah A really close friend of mine is a vegetarian because of the treatment of animals in mass factory farming, and she spent the summer after high school working at an orphanage in Kenya, and she is going to Kenya again this summer, and then studying abroad and volunteering in Ghana for the fall semester. While she is in any America, she maintains her vegetarianism, but in Africa, she eats meat and has never refused meat from her host or orphanage for fear of being rude and offending them.
@yishbot It's one thing to talk about the situation, but another thing entirely to actually be in it. What would I do in this situation? I really don't know. I hate upsetting people, but I would also want to be true to myself. It would definitely be a tough decision for me.
@EchigoDragon She is when she's in the US. Its not like once you're a vegetarian you are never allowed to go back ever or switch at all. Its a life choice.
@NewYorkFlavour yeah, thats just her choice i suppose. she's a student on lots of loans/scholarships and is working tons, etc just to be able to go to college, so she can't afford pasture raised meat. Personally, I'm a happy meat lover with who is financially more stable and i make an effort to shop only at my co op and farmers market. It depends really on your situation, and location. Where I live we have an excellent co op and tons of well stocked farmers markets weekly, not so for her.
@Defleshuary She does. She's currently in Uganda. If you were in uganda living with host families and spending your days at understaffed health clinics, refugee camps, and caring for malnourished children, would you pass up meat if your hosts who don't even have running water managed to get a hold of meat for you? Nice to see that some people would let their convictions get in the way of perhaps some human compassion and understanding.
@yishbot Yes, I would pass it up without a second thought. Before they even became my host family it would be an understanding with the people I'm working with that I don't eat meat and if it were a problem I wouldn't go. I love that you throw in human compassion when not eating animals is also compassionate. Not eating animal products is a life long commitment I have made. It's not just a conviction, it's who I am.
@Defleshuary Sorry if i likened you questioning my friends's conviction to you having a lack of compassion or understanding. Its just a bit infuriating to see you question the strength of her convictions when she is on her third trip to africa (in Uganda) to work with children and refugees, just because its in her belief that she doesn't want to complicate a situation when she is there to help and learn. Just because her convictions aren't the same as yours doesn't mean they aren't strong.
What if there was a scientific study that proved plants were sentient beings? How would you vegans live with yourselves knowing you ate some poor sunflower's children? That you orphaned an apple by torturing his parents in front of him by slowly peeling off their skin before killing them? Eating has always been about consuming life to sustain yours. When I'm dead the earth will eat me, just as it will eat all of you. Don't waste your short life just so you can feel self-righteous.
@Galactic123 If you're trying to make a point don't just resort to ignorant "What if" questions. I'm a vegetarian and a comment accusing me of being a possible fruit-murderer won't change that.
Let me put it in a way you'll understand:
What if you could come to accept the fact that some people live differently to you and stop being such a fucking moron?
@UnlawfulCharmeleon BTW, my comment was in response to a vegan who posted a hypothetical. That person must have closed his/her youtube account which is why you don't see who I was talking to. I didn't just randomly put up a hypothetical. Also, I totally accept the fact that some people live differently than I do. It's vegetarians that seem to have problems with that concept. You're not better or smarter than anyone just because you're a vegetarian. You're just a vegetarian.
I certainly wouldn't call abstaining from contributing to a massive amount of suffering in this world to be wasting a life. Furthermore the notion that we should take seriously the possibility of the suffering of plants is absurd on its face if we know anything at all about the origins of experience. The problem is carrots and apples do not have nervous systems.
@Roenazarrek The comment you are replying to was a response to another vegan who posted a hypothetical where an alien species came down and treated humans the way we treat animals. That person has since deleted the comment and possibly their Youtube account so you can't see his/her name. I was just putting up another ridiculous hypothetical to match. And I wasn't saying all vegans/vegetarians are wasted lives. I said if you're doing it just to feel self righteous you're wasting your life.
@Galactic123 Ah that hypothetical was in an intro to philosophy book I read once If i'm right about what it was, to counter the notion that they should be thanking us for even being alive in the first place. Further though to suspect someone as going through all that trouble just to feel self righteous seems a strange concern to me.
If Mr. Bourdain had spoken about the fact that in some parts of the world, because of the type of environment or poverty levels, a plant-based diet may not be feasible for the native people, (think arid deserts or arctic climates), I would have had some respect for his point of view. But since he chose to focus on greedily stuffing our faces with everything we can just because it's pleasurable, life is short and to not do so may offend our host, this glutton makes me embarrassed to be human.
@mumpkinator Actually you have somewhat of a point. Most the world a pure vegan diet isn't feasible. Ironically the wealthy parts of the world that typically eat too much meat are the only places a pure vegan diet are also possible.
However, I think Anthony Bourdain was more talking about the pleasure of experiencing foreign cultures through food. Which happens to be a major component of any culture. Gluttony has nothing to do with it.
@AtheistConstantine I'm not trying to convince you to give up vegetarianism. I say "to each their own" as long as you're not hurting anyone else, you should do whatever makes you happy.
@AtheistConstantine I'm not trying to convince you to give up vegetarianism. I say "to each their own" as long as you're not hurting anyone else, you should do whatever makes you happy.
@AtheistConstantine That's like saying since there are muslim suicide bombers out there that every muslim I come across is going to explode? So I guess being a racist is not hard at all after watching videos of Saudi, Iraqi and Iranian suicide bombers exploding killing and injuring other people? Come on now. Things are rarely ever black and white.
@AtheistConstantine slaughtering animals doesn't bother me one bit. Torturing animals yes that bothers me but torturing is causing excessive pain to an animal beyond what is necessary to kill that animal. Pain and suffering is part of nature, just go ask the the millions of animals in the wild that inhabit this planet or ask any mother how childbirth feels. Yes there are people that treat animals badly and PETA would like to make us all think that everyone is like that.
@fourtywpm Human beings are predators, pack predators. We might be the most cowardly and aware predators, but we fit the profile: forward set eyes, sharp canines, large brain capable of advanced communication. Its important for us to accept part of that - unless we can't stand meat. That works. But if you don't, forget that many human "predators" are extremely dedicated to zero pain and suffering. Most natural predators dont' have that luxury -claws, fangs, venom, quite painful.
BOTTOM-LINE is both vegans and non-vegans eat LIVING things.,ok non-vegans KILL more living things because they eat ANIMALS and PLANTS.VEGANS kill only PLANTS.
We are as dead as the things we all consumed......Vegetarians are very beautiful people and i am so damn ugly.I guess i will continue eating dead meat.So Burger King here i'm come.
His whole take is if the food (whatever it is) either is well prepared or a not to be missed experience...then you are obbligated to eat it! So many food cultures out there,including the US (and I've insulted people myself), place so much importance on the host offering food to a guest and the guest feeling forced to eat it even if it is something they have "never" had before...it is called hospitality. There are unspoken rules about this, & haven't gotten to the fun of allergies yet.
@Skyrenx hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! dumbest thing i've ever had the pleasure of eating (see what i did there)....meat is by no means an unhealthy food product...there is a link between heart attacks and a diet high in cholesterol and saturated fat....vegans get no essential vitamin b12 and must supplement it into their diets....that sounds more unhealthy and unnatural to me than a lean piece venison packed with protein, minerals like selenium and iron, and all the B vitamins
I was a vegetarian for 14 years since birth, started eating meat 2 years ago. Anthony makes some great points here. Vegetarianism is a choice everyone should consider at least once, whether it's weight issues or just morals. Still, nobody should turn down any kind of homecooked food, vegetarian or not.
@sdguero28 Piss off, at least vegetarians are smart enough to stand up and know how Forrest Gump inbreds treat animals. Kill it, cook it, eat it turned me a vegetarian. And just because I wear nice Marks & Spencers smart clothes, does not make me up my own arse.
@cello19661 Hold on dickehead, just because I say I'm vegetarian, I'm an attention seeker? What the fuck are you talking about? Mate, just stop posting comments when your'e clearly full of fucking shit. Face it, you've lost, now do everyone a favour and fuck off now, your doing every ones head in.
@cello19661 Unfortunately, you are bang wrong, I've been vegetarian for nearly 5 years, and i have never ever tried to convert a single person, in fact, I discourage it, its unhealthy. So I win, you lose, deal with it. And further more, I don't mind preparing food for meat eaters. So just stop with your mindless fucking nonsense that is not true. I'm fair, I do not force my beliefs on anyone.
@28DLFTW The simple fact that you classify yourself as a vegetarian shows your holier-than-thou attitude. If you didn't think that way, you wouldn't use that classification and you would just say that you don't eat meat. Deal with it, vegenazi.
Yes, I know what you meant about the sausage and mayonnaise. Only a fruitcake would think that up. So, it's obvious what your sexual orientation is.
I dont know what kind of vegetarians mr. anthony had met but we are calm people we dont attack nobody we dont push ourselves on nobody,if somebody ask we kindly answer the same dumb and boring question,what do you eat,dont you know vegetables are alive too,awg so annoying,who ever want to eat meat eat it just be civilize and leave vegans alone,the most smartes people in history were vegetarians and they never attack nobody they live a dessent live.compassion for the animals go vegan.no shame
@cello19661 Using "nazi" and vegan is a bit much....especially as what meat eaters essentially support is the rounding up of millions of animals in horrible conditions, and slaughtering of them....the nazis rounded up millions of humans, treated them like animals and then slaughtered them.
@CompassionateChap Calling vegetarians/vegans nazis is perfectly appropriate because they want to force everyone else to stop eating meat. If they don't want to eat meat, that's their problem. However, they need to mind their own business.
Don't equate animals with humans. Animals are meant to be eaten.
@cello19661 Some vegans/vegetarians want to force everyone else to stop eating meat, not all. Just as some meat eaters are vile individuals who say ridiculous and insensitive comments. If animals are mean't to be eaten, then so are we.....in fact, it would be healthier to eat humans, as human flesh is a far more complete protein than that of other animals! Go tuck in!
@cello19661 hell yea, vegetarians are a bunch of arrogant obnoxious pricks who think theyre better than you just because of some choice that makes their life somewhat less convenient, theyre kind of like christians in that sense, very obnoxious and stuck up
@wohodude100 i'm a vegetarian and don't think i'm better than anyone else and i'm sure a lot of Christians don't either. so pull your head out of your ass and realize that everyone is different and no particular group of people act the same way.
@wohodude100 as a vegetarian and a christian, your comment doesn't offend me the slightest because ignorant people like you who say something at all about what they don't know abounds the earth like vegetation. but i'm commenting anyway to let you know that.
It's a basic fact of human existence that in order for us to live, something else is going to have to die. Every farm, even the ones that are "organic" or only grow vegetables represent a threat to animal life in the form of habitat loss, which not only means the loss of homes, but also of food source. Let's assume that there are 100 million vegans in the world (a modest estimate). That number is still a huge impact on animal populations.
@TADahar Absolutely, and even something as herbivourous as a cow, will accidentally consume insects, or even step on rodents whilst grazing. I guess the big point is that by becoming a vegan or vegetarian, you are vastly reducing your footprint on animal deaths. Also, remember that so many millions of acres of forest have been flattened to produce land for grazing livestock, and for crops for animal feed - that must be a huge death toll.
"..you are vastly reducing your footprint on animal deaths."
So life is only precious when it has eyebrows? There's good research that points at least to an awareness in plants when threats to their continued existence appear, an awareness that they relay to other plants that share their genus via a communication system akin to a neural network. If plants are shown to have consciousness, what are vegans going to do? Start eating air?
@TADahar No, because its our natural diet to eat plant food - we can't live without it, so we should eat it. Just as a lion must eat wild prey. We don't need meat, we need to eat plant life.
And yes, killing an animal is far more traumatic than killing a plant - a brain and central nervous system backs this up. Its pedantic people like you, who find the most absurd reasons to try and distract from the real issues.
Excuse me, but you're just as guilty of pedantry as I am. Every intellectual person who feels passion for the causes that move them indulge in a little bit of pedantry here and there. I say that I am being more realistic than you are. It would be a more achievable goal to gradually teach people to be more aware of their choices and more modest in their consumption than it would be to compell them towards a drastic diet change.
@CompassionateChap Your assertion that a vegetarian diet is natural to human beings at best arguable. You look at teeth and see herbivore, I look at teeth and see omnivore. Some studies have looked at chimpanzee diets in the wild and have tied that to what early humans were eating. I would agree, a diet with more plant material than animal protein is more ideal, but you would have to agree on the role of animal protein in the development of the human brain.
@TADahar Teeth vary so much between species, but the old pro-meat claims are that we have canines.....as do some herbivores. The teeth we have are not really suited to chewing and tearing meat, in particular raw meat which would be often problematic to tear through (let alone not great to digest....ever eaten raw chicken?)
As for your comment about animal protein - no I don't agree. Eating meat doesn't make a species smart, as many carnivorous creatures would prove.
Bourdain is right on the money. Vegetarians shouldn't be allowed to travel.
suction 3 days ago
this guy is a real clown. i mean, a neanderthal clown.
portair12 1 week ago
life is too short to make others shorter.
fuckingsickadventure 2 months ago
my jaw dropped when i heard about idiots putting their dogs on vegan diets!!!! vegan dog? i mean come on. pffft.
applecrumping33 2 months ago
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Vegetarians/vegans have an eating disorder. Period. BS on all the moral s**t.
htgriff 2 months ago
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htgriff 2 months ago
i'm a sushi chef and he hit the nail on the head. Omakase is such an intimate experience that i'm sad that not not everyone knows about it.
honger1 3 months ago
I think he thinks he's being funny, yet he is trying to reinforce stereotypes on to a group to make him feel better about his own beliefs and feel like a part of the group. His remarks are tantamount to saying someone possesses certain behavioral traits because of the color of their skin (for example). I know a lot of vegetarians and vegans who eat what they eat because they believe it's noble and just feel it's right, not just for the sake of being different. It's very personal.
bigshrimpn 3 months ago
First of all, I eat fish and seafood. Yet, I still think his message is hateful. He goes on the attack by basically saying everyone who doesn't eat meat is ignorant, elitist and exudes a holier-than-thou attitude. People shouldn't be worried about offending other people by refusing to eat their meat dishes because you should never be forced to compromise your own beliefs. He's basically saying society's beliefs are more important than an individual's beliefs.
bigshrimpn 3 months ago
@bigshrimpn Spoken like a true rude selfish American. Ofcourse AMERICANS don't care who they offend because it's all about ME ME ME. In other NORMAL cultures around the world, people understand that we as humans live in a SOCIETY, where human interaction and "not" offending others is part of daily life. I challenge you to live in one of these NON SELFISH cultures for 3 months and then get back to me on how much you don't care if you offend other people.
zzpianoman 2 days ago
With all the meat he eats, can you imagine how bad his breath is the next day while recovering from a hangover plus the stink in the bathroom while he strains a constipated meat BM. I feel bad for his wife lol
nairategev 4 months ago
@nairategev Uhm, have you EVER smelled a vegan's fart? I rest my case.
zzpianoman 2 days ago
This is just plain ignorant. Just strictly from a food point of view, He could have just as easily passed up a great veggy dish because he took a meat dish instead. So this arguement is nonsense.
TheMindfulOne 4 months ago
@TheMindfulOne I don't necessarily agree. I too find most vegetarians to be completely shrill and annoying. I know this is a massive, sweeping generalization, but it's based on my experiences going to an American Art college with people who have felt it necessary to politicize food. I'm also from one of the foreign cultures of which he speaks, and I have felt this way for a very long time, and would have never expected anyone, especially an American, to so perfectly phrase my own thoughts.
dataslul 4 months ago
@dataslul Whether or not vegetarians are annoying or not was not my point. All I was arguing was that he could have just as easily passed up a great veggy dish because he took a meat dish instead. If your going to respond to my comment at least keep it about my comment.
TheMindfulOne 4 months ago
@TheMindfulOne The annoying part was out of line with my thesis, and I apologize. I lost track by accurately stating that vegetarians are annoying. Aside from being totally obvious, it does nothing to further this high minded dialogue. But, since we're on the subject, Bourdain worked in professional kitchens for about 25 years. Don't you think he had at least one opportunity to sample vegetarian cuisine? Do you really think he hasn't tried almost anything there is to try?
dataslul 4 months ago
@dataslul There are always new things to try. There's no way anyone has seen it all or tasted it all including AB. That's why he traveled the world to get a better understanding. But even he hasn't done it all and to think so is foolish.
TheMindfulOne 4 months ago
fuck vegetarians
I like what Gordon Ramsay, Andrew, and Anthony say about them... perfect example of a retard
qoaa 4 months ago
@qoaa And you don't think that man vs food is a show for retards? And it's SO popular! Go to a convalescent hospital and check out all the aging meat-eaters who all fit-in with each other with matching depends diapers and then tell me who the retards are. Meat-eaters are carnitards in disgustingly large numbers, are destroying the environment, cause animal suffering, clog up hospitals, and are the annoying ones who take up too much time at the public toilet when I have to take a nice vegan shit!
nairategev 4 months ago
I can't wait for this idiot (and Andrew Zimmern) to get an animal product related health problem like parasites, heart attack, stroke, etc. lol
nairategev 4 months ago
@nairategev lol
paenitet7nullum 4 months ago
@nairategev I would happily die of colon cancer or a massive red meat fueled hear attack if it means that I got to spend time eating tripe and calf brains with my dad, and talk about our culture and hear about the many generations of cattle ranchers that came before him. But I know it won't happen anyway. My grandfather lived till he was 100, and he ate meat until the very end. My parents are healthy 70 year-olds, and avid beef lovers. Get off your high horse, dude.
dataslul 4 months ago
@dataslul ya and people have won the lottery and fallen out of airplanes without a parachute and survived. I'm a nurse and most of what I do is take care of aging meat-eaters and it's not a pretty way to go downhill so get on a higher horse you wanker. lol
nairategev 4 months ago
@nairategev Members of my family lived in the hills and ate meat and typically lived longer than a majority of our country of origin and even the US in modern times. There are other lifestyle factors, you wanker. Better yet, I'd be more than happy to take your horse and braise it slowly. Horse is delicious.
dataslul 4 months ago
@dataslul Ha ha ha you'll end up like one of my patients with some horse and other meat flesh stuck in his colon...bed sores, diapers, 20 different pills, a piss bag, possibly a colostomy bag, etc and die a slow painful death like the creatures you eat did and it serves you right! Genetic strength breaks down as it goes into future generations. Your parents won the genetic lottery...it doesn't mean you will. Unless you have a shitload of money for a caregiver like me, you'll end up in a "home".
nairategev 4 months ago
@nairategev I'd prefer to die from painful colon cancer than to have to put up vegetarians for even a solitary second. Totally worth it, especially if I get to crap my pants and you have to clean it up and wipe my butt. A perfect fate for us both. Cannot wait. See you there.
dataslul 4 months ago
@dataslul lol
nairategev 4 months ago
Hey, maybe we shouldn't have taken a moral stance on slavery either, because it might have offended slaveowners.
Godinme 4 months ago
it is possible to refrain from eating animals in the US and eat very well, there's really no reason to have to eat it here. I am veggie, but eat meat only while travelling internationally- it's important to truly experience a culture and not offend anyone. People can save animals from suffering on a regular basis and still experience life as a food lover.
plugrapls 4 months ago 3
@plugrapls Please don't consider yourself a vegetarian if you eat meat occasionally. It's pretty clear that you're not and it's offensive to those that are.
Defleshuary 3 months ago 3
What if you're allergic to something, would those koreans be sad if you said no thanks to those foods?
And why are there vegetarian resturants in these countries? I bet he didn't try out any vegetarian meals. HOW RUDE
Pertrosfoliea 4 months ago
@Pertrosfoliea Sure, sad, but not offended. Refusing meat because of some ridiculous moralistic bullshit, on the other hand, be prepared for some comments. And no. I actually like eating some vegetarian dishes as an appetizer time to time--especially Korean Monk food. Great stuff. The results are often very interesting when you try to maximize the flavor profile of veggies.
globalforce 4 months ago
@Pertrosfoliea Anyway, my friend has a peanut allergy and has emergency room visits to show for it. I'm sure he is thrilled to hear that his allergy is comparable to a voluntary lifestyle choice--vegetarianism.
globalforce 4 months ago
@globalforce Sure, being your friend he probably wouldn't respect moral choices. My boyfriend is allergic to all nuts, some seeds, all furry animals and birds, yet he agrees with me... I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with saying no to food because you're allergic, I'm saying it's not wrong to say no to food because you stand for something!
Pertrosfoliea 4 months ago
@Pertrosfoliea "Sure, being your friend he probably wouldn't respect moral choices."
Sigh. How typical. Tell me, what part of your "morality" tells you to spout snide, personal insinuations about a person that you never had any sort of contact with whatsoever? At any rate, my point stands. Equating a health condition with a VOLUNTARY act is as ridiculous as... oh, I don't know, not eating meat because of "moral" reasons.
globalforce 4 months ago
@Pertrosfoliea "Standing for something," you say. "Moral choice," you say. HA.
Maybe I should take a moral stand here too. Lets see. I hereby declare that, since God made us in his image, and we are, in nature, omnivores, that refusing meat voluntarily is a voluntary rejection of our very nature, and, furthermore, God's image, which our nature is based upon. Thus, vegetarians are a blight in defiance of God and nature, and their claims of being friendly to nature is nothing more than heresy.
globalforce 4 months ago
@globalforce That would make more sense if God actually existed.
Jonmad17 4 months ago
@Jonmad17 That statement was meant to be silly.
globalforce 4 months ago
@Pertrosfoliea Now, was that crazy? Yes. But since we are playing the "kowtow to any kind of stupid bullshit as long as someone calls it 'moral'" game, my "moral" bullshit should command equal amount of respect as your "moral" bullshit. Of course, in the real world, my "moral" bullshit and your "moral" bullshit should enjoy equal lack of respect.
globalforce 4 months ago
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@globalforce "Sure, being your friend he probably wouldn't respect moral choices." was obviously meant as a joke.
I'm sorry you're so angered by people not eating animals, that's all I have to say...
Pertrosfoliea 4 months ago
Where's a sniper when you need one.
chicksfeisty 5 months ago
this guy is a prick. so then shouldn't he hate muslims for not eating pork, thus offending countries with a lot of pork?
brzklt 5 months ago
@brzklt You mean how america look down on countries that eat dogs?
HCNguyen86 5 months ago
@mrbuster1964
Correction. You have the luxory of living as a vegan. A whole fracking lot of the rest of the world does not. Get off you cross. #Reason vegans are thought of as douchebags.
axkissxtobetray 5 months ago
RUDE?!!! FUCKEM' IF THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND MY BELIEFS, MORALS AND ETHICS THEN TOO BAD!!! IT'S A 2 WAY STREET AND IT THEY SHOULD UNDERSTAND IF I LIVE AS A VEGAN.
mrbuster1964 5 months ago
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I agree that traveling and trying to blend into local food ways with vegans or vegetarians is the worst cultural slight once can commit. The no I can't, won't disdainfulness of those who are not open minded always bring shame to the rest of us who have eat and tried. And while I am not supporting dog as a protein, I do find vegans the hight of arrogance in places where types of food is not a lifestyle choice but a basic necessity.
LeFeff 5 months ago
I agree that traveling and trying to blend into local food ways with vegans or vegetarians is the worst cultural slight once can commit. The no I can't, won't disdainfulness of those who are not open minded always bring shame to the rest of us who have eat and tried. And while I am not supporting dog as a protein, I do find vegans the hight of arrogance in places where food is not a lifestyle choice but a basic necessity.
LeFeff 5 months ago
Yeah, okay, we have a limited time on earth, so let's make sure we kill and eat as many animals as possible. What bullshit. Vegetarians exist all over the planet and it has nothing to do with being a Western culture luxury. And it is not rude to anybody. Bourdain is just another asshole hypocrite. Slammed every celebrity chef there was--and then woke up one day and found himself a celebrity chef, and all of sudden he softens his views.
Fantumh 5 months ago
@Fantumh Vegetarianism in East Asia was pretty much confined to Buddist monks until a new generation of pampered children decided that they liked having "first world complaints" too. The prevailing attitude was and still is, "sure, if you are a monk(meaning, "a bit off"), you only eat veggies, but you only eat veggies as a secular lifestyle???"
I guarantee you. If you go to South Korea to eat and start spewing shit about "not wanting meat," the people in the establishment will be VERY annoyed.
globalforce 5 months ago
@globalforce I'm not sure what you're point is. So what if traveling around Korea as a vegetarian is difficult. My guess you and Bourdain are the only ones VERY annoyed, whereas if said veg. is flexible and enthusiastic about what they will try, the people of Korea will be as accommodating as possible. As possible is no doubt the optimal phrase. It's not vegetarians who are rude and arrogant, but people like you and Bourdain.
Fantumh 4 months ago
@globalforce Maybe you're just jealous that vegetarians can think beyond their pampered, selfish little lives and consider the health of the earth....? Or are you resentful that they can be disciplined enough to follow a moral code when your only moral code is the hedonistic fulfillment of your desires...?
This hatred toward a vegetarian diet is baffling.
Fantumh 4 months ago 2
@Fantumh "the people of Korea will be as accommodating as possible."
As one of the "people of Korea," I will assure you that your assertion is simply not true--unless you go to monastaries and their food is quite nice.
Anyway, thanks, doctor Phill. Your last comment perfectly demonstrates why I cannot stand vegetarians like you. See, I have no problem people eating crappy food. What I do have, is a hatred against such "baffling" display of moral superiority and stupidity.
globalforce 4 months ago
@Fantumh At any rate, the inevitable tendency of the likes of you to immediately resort to personal attacks and some cookie-cutter moralizing rhetoric to attack the others is both tragic, and very, very entertaining. I am starting to suspect that there exists a vegi-supremacist equivalent of Fox News.
Of course, I jest. But having sampled your kind's literature before, I am quite certain that there exists a religious, cult-like ferver in your community. "WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN?"
globalforce 4 months ago
@globalforce I have a Korean girlfriend, and I was surprised at the culture's love affair with red meat in particular. I have been eating skirt steak at Mexican cook offs since I was a wee little boy, but I know firmly believe that Koreans by far make the best skirt steak. Before people make yet another simple minded assessment of what life is like in the far east, perhaps they should move to the Korean countryside and subsist mainly on kimchee.
dataslul 4 months ago
@dataslul Haha, hear hear. Back home, just eating rice & kimchi is a regular practice, but no one ever really likes to do it if they have a choice. It's kind of like cheese sandwhich that way--"oh crap, I have no other food in the fridge" or "oh crap, I am broke as shit." It's also a classic way for parents to show kids that they have done something really bad--spanking is one thing, but to take away something from their diet? Oh, you better believe they did SOMETHING.
globalforce 4 months ago
And now his wack ass is bashing paula deen for being too unhealthy? The fuck are you on bitch? Youre wack!!! Waaaaaaack
halifaxx55 5 months ago
It is pleasant for me so there is nothing more to think about.
I hope some day Anthony will see through this materialist hedonistic bullshit that he is presenting here. I really wish him that.
MichaelPZeitgeist 5 months ago
@MichaelPZeitgeist As opposed to what? Chasing ghosts? I am perfectly happy buying and enjoying nice things and having a ball of a time. You should try making some money.
globalforce 5 months ago
im offended that people were offended by this.
MrBubbaloo 5 months ago
@MrBubbaloo
Im am not offended that you were offendend, that people were offended by this.
greenwoodonearth 5 months ago
This argument is ridiculous. He's using this very rare situation to bash on vegetarians and our "privilege" when in reality he is a privileged westerner who gets to travel to exotic locales and fetishize food.
My husband and I backpacked through Siberia. We camped at a lake and an obviously poor couple came over & kindly offered us cheese sandwiches & fish stew. We ate the broth & potatoes & avoided the fish. Easy. They were not offended and were totally understanding of our vegetarianism.
thermoregulator 5 months ago
It's pretty arrogant (and ignorant) to say that the Vietnamese wouldn't get a person abstaining from meat and that they would have been offended and horrified. I've traveled extensively in Vietnam, and they have a ton of vegetarianism there (like any country with lots of Mahayana Buddhists)
greatbigatomicbore 5 months ago
Of course he hates vegans, he's a foodie. There's nothing vegetarians hate more than food, or human culture, or common decency. They are evil people.
kingboobs20 5 months ago 3
He's wrong. There's nothing wrong with vegetarians 'cheating' every once and awhile for once in a lifetime experiences, but you can't live your life thinking "well I'm only going to live once so I'll just consume everything I can and fuck the rest".
fizzypopism 5 months ago
Mankind has been eating red meat for an estimated two million years. The proteins found in bone marrow played a critical part in brain evolution. Truth is vegetarians are the backward savages.
bryanjones007 6 months ago
@bryanjones007 Except civilization wouldn't exist with vegetables. Animals cannot sustain large populations of humans because they breed to little, produce little food and not enough meat. So you can't maintain a city with cows. You need agriculture to feed those cows. But why feed the cows when you can just skip that step and feed the city. Without massive populations, civilization wouldn't exist.
And proteins are found in a variety of other non-meat foods.
fizzypopism 5 months ago
i feel vegetarians are spoiled, theyre like ok since im vegetarian your gonna have to cook differently for me, i just saw a video on a girl thats vegetarian and she said was like salad and other vegetarian options werent good enough for her, im like wth?
Jesuslovespunks182 6 months ago
@Jesuslovespunks182 If you're a host, you should be willing to serve your guest accordingly. I agree it's stupid for a vegetarian to say "nope, not good enough for me". But if you know someone is Hindu or vegetarian you should aspire to not offend their moral and religious beliefs. It's like serving pork when having your Muslim or Jewish friends over. Yeah, you shouldn't be their slave to their beliefs. But it's still a dick move.
fizzypopism 5 months ago
i know the kinds of sushi places he's talking about. used to get free tidbits all the time, because we were very excited about the experience, and were willing to try almost anything. and i know what he's talking about on vegetarians. any culture, no matter how poor, if they have an important guest will bring out all of their best meat dishes they normally couldn't afford. to reject the offering is unbearably rude. so if you CAN make yourself eat it, do so.
ajlee35 6 months ago
distracteddispatches owns a thesaurus
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offwiththehats 6 months ago
I don't care if you're a meat-eater, vegetarian, raw food purist, or whatever. It just annoys the shit out of me when people can't take spicy food, order a steak well-done, or say, eat sushi with only soy sauce and no wasabi. Have you eaten with these ppl? You want to smack them, shove a pvc pipe down their throats, and pour their "on the side" dressing into their disapproving faces. *I used to work in a restaurant.
dander337 6 months ago
Vegetarianism isn't simply a Western fad, I'm not vegetarian simply because I had some warped sense of moral superiority to everyone else and decided to stop eating meat. There are several traditionally vegetarian traditions out there, where vegetarianism stretches back literally thousands of years. I was born into this culture and have never eaten meat not simply as a matter of choice, but as a matter of cultural obligation. So does Tony hate all vegetarians, or just those who have converted?
Dzongka 6 months ago
@Dzongka Bourdain only holds this grudge against those who have converted, mostly those who have the 'privilege' to denounce meat. He is aware of religious/cultural traditions concerning vegetarianism and doesn't hold a grievance against that. A video found here on Youtube where he clarifies between the two is Authors@Google: Anthony Bourdain at time 35:30.
sanfrancisco24 6 months ago
Vegetarians who use drugs make me laugh....harder than I already do at them.
Alaska47Boy 6 months ago
its smart to HATE vegetarianism! Why tolerate when you can hate? stupid
musicvoho 7 months ago
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@musicvoho no, YOU'RE stupid.
chickenshitt 6 months ago
So what I am saying is that the majority of patients that are really ill are not vegetarians but meat eaters. I am not a vegetarian. And I see what is going on.He makes fun of vegetarians which is really stupid. Again the majority of patients we receive are not vegetarians. There must be something to what they are saying.I have been looking and was very suprised.I think that I will give it a try. It can`t hurt.
lola0600 7 months ago
Also I work in one of the major hospitals in the United States,and I will tell you this , in the ten years that i have worked there and taken care of very sick patients, and I mean cancer patients, 99 percent of the patients are not vegetarian. In all of my years I have worked there I have taken care of about 10 vegetarian patients. And that is a small amount compared to the volume of patients we receive each week, which is about 16 to 18 a week. Time that by 52 weeks.
lola0600 7 months ago
I have watched his shows and He looks very unhealthy. He smokes which is really stupid and eats anything . He needs to be careful of his health. I think he looks terrible. His diet is not helping him.
lola0600 7 months ago
“In the early 1960s, I became a vegetarian, and stayed strictly vegetarian for almost two years. But I contracted hepatitis and I went back to my old regime.”
– The Dalai Lama, 2004
“Of all things the two most essential for human life are chlorophyll and blood.”
– Rudolf Steiner, 1924
My sister stopped being vegetarian after reading the following two pages: scribd.com/doc/29583992/Vegetarianism-by-Samael-Aun-Weor-1972
(Zoom in to read)
I love vegetarians though! Nice people.
FIRSTconcentrate 7 months ago
He's essentially saying eat meat to be polite...pretty lazy argument. Lifestyle, cultural, or religious, choices can be respected through cultural borders. Doesn't matter the reasons for someones vegetarianism or non-vegetarianism; to imply that two people can't sit down and get along because they live in different ways is ironic coming from Bourdain. I don't think his comment/humor was meant to be malicious but sometimes you have to agree to disagree. That being said still love his work!
balooga999 7 months ago
I can't wait to give up vegetarianism. Only good thing about it is I have explored lots of food.
People who become vegetarians other than for health reasons are fairly stupid. I can elaborate.
outerpol 7 months ago
@outerpol Erm, health is a great reason in itself, but taste, animal welfare and the environment are perfectly valid reasons as well, and none of these can be denied.
CompassionateChap 7 months ago
@outerpol Please do elaborate? How would vegetarianism be stupid?
marciebeezy 7 months ago
Why do some meat-eaters get so angry and defensive about vegetarians? People can eat what they want, for whatever reason they want. I haven't eaten meat for 16 years and I never will again, on personal moral grounds. That's my choice and no one else's business, just as I have never told anyone else they shouldn't eat meat. What is wrong with you people? Stop trying to interfere, let others do what they want according to their own consciences.
Smartiepants70 7 months ago
Vegetarians disgusts me for the sole reason that they are vegetarian because of how they depict animals are treated. Consume consciously, in moderation, pay your respect to the animals that died for your consumption, and live with it. Vegetarians are the reason why there is a over supply of unconsumed meat. Rather than being vegetarian, eat your damn meat so the animal didn't die for nothing.
eknick 7 months ago 2
That is the most stupidest, dumbest thing I have heard. I mean how in the world is vegetarians responsible for unconsumed meat. I believe that if you are going to eat meat then you should not waste it. But I do not understand why you say vegetarians are responsible for the over supply of unconsumed meat. I was not aware that was a problem. And the meat is not grown for their consumption. That is just a very stupid comment. I mean just stupid. Ridiculous
lola0600 7 months ago
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CompassionateChap 7 months ago
@eknick but us vegetarians don't eat meat. are you stupid or what? you disgust me because you're stupid.
chickenshitt 6 months ago
Most vegetarians I know or have met eat chicken or fish. The true meaning of vegetarian seemingly is "picky eater".
EchigoDragon 8 months ago
@EchigoDragon they're simply not vegetarian, period. it's not in what you say, it's in what you do. and eat (or not eat).
chickenshitt 6 months ago
I would want to accommodate my guest and make them a meal they would honestly enjoy. Being a vegetarian, though, I could see how this argument could be turned against me. Would I make a dish with meat for someone? No, I wouldn't. But I would definitely ask what some of their favorite meals are that don't have meat and make them a fantastic meatless meal. Perhaps even splurge on some meatless meat (Quorn, Boca, Morningstar, etc.) and add it to the meal. I don't know. Am I missing something here?
Iscah 8 months ago
@Iscah and there are lots of faux meat or just plain vegetarian recipes online! ikr?!
chickenshitt 6 months ago
I'm not sure what to think about the "You're dissing another culture if you don't eat what they make for you" facet of this argument. Let's say someone from another country with an ethnic/religious/cultural background that abstains from eating meat visits me in America. I make them a typical 'American' meal that has meat in it without knowing anything about them. They then tell me that they don't eat meat. I know not everyone thinks like me, but I wouldn't get offended.
Iscah 8 months ago
@Iscah i mean, you wouldn't be offended, but imagine if you were poor or it was hard to come by meat and it was expensive and or it was an integral part of your culture and history, and you went out of your way to obtain it for your guest. And then imagine your guest had the good fortune to be brought up in a western society that is generally more affluent and has the choice of being choosy about not eating meat, and he/she refuses your offering. It gives off a 'im better than you' vibe to them.
yishbot 7 months ago 30
@yishbot Hmmm, I never thought of cost being a factor. I can see where you're coming from. I can't help but think that there's one being that's not included in the equation, though, and that's the animal that was killed for the meal. I may offend someone by refusing their meal, but a creature was killed. Personally, the latter would upset me more. I suppose, though, it all comes down to how an individual perceives animals and their relationship to them.
Iscah 7 months ago
@yishbot Whoever you are, thanks. You hit the nail on the head. I hate it when westeners can't respect other cultures and expect countries halfway around the wold to have the same etiquette that the West has.
Torgo224 6 months ago
@Torgo224 It's unfortunate that some people don't want to understand others' cultures. However, I disagree that abstaining from eating meat in another country (no matter who it's made by) is disrespecting that person's culture. I think that there can be understanding on both sides as long as both parties are willing to compromise with each other in a respectful manner.
Iscah 6 months ago
@Torgo224 I don't think that in order to appreciate/understand/love a certain culture one has to partake in every aspect of it. I don't think that just because one abstains from something in a culture, that it's a disconnect or a slight to that person's culture.
Iscah 6 months ago
@Iscah I agree, it's just annoying that some people have to force their ways onto another culture without trying to make a compromise. I have been to a few of these places and I haven't eaten everything because of my personal choices, but at the same time I try to respect it, the people I'm complaining about are the narrow minded people who have an "it's my way or the highway" complex
Torgo224 6 months ago
@Torgo224 Ah, I see.
Iscah 6 months ago
@yishbot as a vegan i agree, its just like that scene from temple of doom. id never do that in a foreign culture. to me its just a diet and not something i want to be defined by. as a counter arguement to meat eaters, (most) meat eaters are wrong in their disposition towards people who maintain diets, simply because it makes them feel different or inadequate, which they shouldnt. i have no problem with people who eat meat, and i understand why they like it. but the feeling should be mutual imo..
iamweapon 5 months ago
@Iscah A really close friend of mine is a vegetarian because of the treatment of animals in mass factory farming, and she spent the summer after high school working at an orphanage in Kenya, and she is going to Kenya again this summer, and then studying abroad and volunteering in Ghana for the fall semester. While she is in any America, she maintains her vegetarianism, but in Africa, she eats meat and has never refused meat from her host or orphanage for fear of being rude and offending them.
yishbot 7 months ago 21
@yishbot It's one thing to talk about the situation, but another thing entirely to actually be in it. What would I do in this situation? I really don't know. I hate upsetting people, but I would also want to be true to myself. It would definitely be a tough decision for me.
Iscah 7 months ago
@yishbot Then she's not a vegetarian is she???
EchigoDragon 5 months ago
@EchigoDragon She is when she's in the US. Its not like once you're a vegetarian you are never allowed to go back ever or switch at all. Its a life choice.
yishbot 5 months ago
@yishbot
But the solution is to buy pasture-raised meat, and support that industry, not to forego meat altogether.
NewYorkFlavour 4 months ago
@NewYorkFlavour yeah, thats just her choice i suppose. she's a student on lots of loans/scholarships and is working tons, etc just to be able to go to college, so she can't afford pasture raised meat. Personally, I'm a happy meat lover with who is financially more stable and i make an effort to shop only at my co op and farmers market. It depends really on your situation, and location. Where I live we have an excellent co op and tons of well stocked farmers markets weekly, not so for her.
yishbot 4 months ago
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@yishbot Nice to see your friend has strong convictions.
Defleshuary 3 months ago
@Defleshuary She does. She's currently in Uganda. If you were in uganda living with host families and spending your days at understaffed health clinics, refugee camps, and caring for malnourished children, would you pass up meat if your hosts who don't even have running water managed to get a hold of meat for you? Nice to see that some people would let their convictions get in the way of perhaps some human compassion and understanding.
yishbot 3 months ago 8
@yishbot Yes, I would pass it up without a second thought. Before they even became my host family it would be an understanding with the people I'm working with that I don't eat meat and if it were a problem I wouldn't go. I love that you throw in human compassion when not eating animals is also compassionate. Not eating animal products is a life long commitment I have made. It's not just a conviction, it's who I am.
Defleshuary 3 months ago
@Defleshuary Sorry if i likened you questioning my friends's conviction to you having a lack of compassion or understanding. Its just a bit infuriating to see you question the strength of her convictions when she is on her third trip to africa (in Uganda) to work with children and refugees, just because its in her belief that she doesn't want to complicate a situation when she is there to help and learn. Just because her convictions aren't the same as yours doesn't mean they aren't strong.
yishbot 3 months ago 6
Nice! What brand of cigarette lighter did you film this with?
syvergutten 8 months ago
What if there was a scientific study that proved plants were sentient beings? How would you vegans live with yourselves knowing you ate some poor sunflower's children? That you orphaned an apple by torturing his parents in front of him by slowly peeling off their skin before killing them? Eating has always been about consuming life to sustain yours. When I'm dead the earth will eat me, just as it will eat all of you. Don't waste your short life just so you can feel self-righteous.
Galactic123 8 months ago
@Galactic123 If you're trying to make a point don't just resort to ignorant "What if" questions. I'm a vegetarian and a comment accusing me of being a possible fruit-murderer won't change that.
Let me put it in a way you'll understand:
What if you could come to accept the fact that some people live differently to you and stop being such a fucking moron?
UnlawfulCharmeleon 8 months ago
@UnlawfulCharmeleon BTW, my comment was in response to a vegan who posted a hypothetical. That person must have closed his/her youtube account which is why you don't see who I was talking to. I didn't just randomly put up a hypothetical. Also, I totally accept the fact that some people live differently than I do. It's vegetarians that seem to have problems with that concept. You're not better or smarter than anyone just because you're a vegetarian. You're just a vegetarian.
Galactic123 8 months ago
@Galactic123 Oh right sorry. I just get really annoyed by those "what if" questions. No hard feelings bro'.
UnlawfulCharmeleon 8 months ago
@Galactic123
I certainly wouldn't call abstaining from contributing to a massive amount of suffering in this world to be wasting a life. Furthermore the notion that we should take seriously the possibility of the suffering of plants is absurd on its face if we know anything at all about the origins of experience. The problem is carrots and apples do not have nervous systems.
Roenazarrek 8 months ago
@Roenazarrek The comment you are replying to was a response to another vegan who posted a hypothetical where an alien species came down and treated humans the way we treat animals. That person has since deleted the comment and possibly their Youtube account so you can't see his/her name. I was just putting up another ridiculous hypothetical to match. And I wasn't saying all vegans/vegetarians are wasted lives. I said if you're doing it just to feel self righteous you're wasting your life.
Galactic123 8 months ago
@Galactic123 Ah that hypothetical was in an intro to philosophy book I read once If i'm right about what it was, to counter the notion that they should be thanking us for even being alive in the first place. Further though to suspect someone as going through all that trouble just to feel self righteous seems a strange concern to me.
Roenazarrek 8 months ago
I love this guy! Such a great TV show too!
rosepetal108 9 months ago
Just eat whatever the hell you want!! Bitching and crying about what others eat won't change a damn thing. Sheesh.
senstyles1 9 months ago
If Mr. Bourdain had spoken about the fact that in some parts of the world, because of the type of environment or poverty levels, a plant-based diet may not be feasible for the native people, (think arid deserts or arctic climates), I would have had some respect for his point of view. But since he chose to focus on greedily stuffing our faces with everything we can just because it's pleasurable, life is short and to not do so may offend our host, this glutton makes me embarrassed to be human.
mumpkinator 9 months ago
@mumpkinator Actually you have somewhat of a point. Most the world a pure vegan diet isn't feasible. Ironically the wealthy parts of the world that typically eat too much meat are the only places a pure vegan diet are also possible.
However, I think Anthony Bourdain was more talking about the pleasure of experiencing foreign cultures through food. Which happens to be a major component of any culture. Gluttony has nothing to do with it.
rosepetal108 9 months ago
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@AtheistConstantine I'm not trying to convince you to give up vegetarianism. I say "to each their own" as long as you're not hurting anyone else, you should do whatever makes you happy.
fourtywpm 9 months ago
@AtheistConstantine I'm not trying to convince you to give up vegetarianism. I say "to each their own" as long as you're not hurting anyone else, you should do whatever makes you happy.
fourtywpm 9 months ago
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If god didn't want us to eat animals, then why did he make them out of delicious, tasty meat?
throbule 9 months ago
@AtheistConstantine That's like saying since there are muslim suicide bombers out there that every muslim I come across is going to explode? So I guess being a racist is not hard at all after watching videos of Saudi, Iraqi and Iranian suicide bombers exploding killing and injuring other people? Come on now. Things are rarely ever black and white.
fourtywpm 9 months ago
@AtheistConstantine slaughtering animals doesn't bother me one bit. Torturing animals yes that bothers me but torturing is causing excessive pain to an animal beyond what is necessary to kill that animal. Pain and suffering is part of nature, just go ask the the millions of animals in the wild that inhabit this planet or ask any mother how childbirth feels. Yes there are people that treat animals badly and PETA would like to make us all think that everyone is like that.
fourtywpm 9 months ago 5
@fourtywpm Human beings are predators, pack predators. We might be the most cowardly and aware predators, but we fit the profile: forward set eyes, sharp canines, large brain capable of advanced communication. Its important for us to accept part of that - unless we can't stand meat. That works. But if you don't, forget that many human "predators" are extremely dedicated to zero pain and suffering. Most natural predators dont' have that luxury -claws, fangs, venom, quite painful.
SavageInsight 9 months ago
@AtheistConstantine I know not all are treated humanly.You can't say none are though, nothing is ever black and white.
fourtywpm 9 months ago
BOTTOM-LINE is both vegans and non-vegans eat LIVING things.,ok non-vegans KILL more living things because they eat ANIMALS and PLANTS.VEGANS kill only PLANTS.
syas13 9 months ago
I think Anthony Bourdain is awesome, period.
ezranavarro 9 months ago
We are as dead as the things we all consumed......Vegetarians are very beautiful people and i am so damn ugly.I guess i will continue eating dead meat.So Burger King here i'm come.
TOLTECAAZTECA 9 months ago
Nothing wrong with eating meat as long as the animals are treated humanly.
fourtywpm 10 months ago
His whole take is if the food (whatever it is) either is well prepared or a not to be missed experience...then you are obbligated to eat it! So many food cultures out there,including the US (and I've insulted people myself), place so much importance on the host offering food to a guest and the guest feeling forced to eat it even if it is something they have "never" had before...it is called hospitality. There are unspoken rules about this, & haven't gotten to the fun of allergies yet.
blueclstar 10 months ago
Why do meat-heads get so mad with vegetarians? That just means more meat for you guys, why are you complaining? Go have a heart attack all ready.
Skyrenx 10 months ago 3
@Skyrenx That statement was pretty stupid, and it made no sense.
420SmokeDatHaze 10 months ago
@Skyrenx hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!! dumbest thing i've ever had the pleasure of eating (see what i did there)....meat is by no means an unhealthy food product...there is a link between heart attacks and a diet high in cholesterol and saturated fat....vegans get no essential vitamin b12 and must supplement it into their diets....that sounds more unhealthy and unnatural to me than a lean piece venison packed with protein, minerals like selenium and iron, and all the B vitamins
hogtownbro 9 months ago
I was a vegetarian for 14 years since birth, started eating meat 2 years ago. Anthony makes some great points here. Vegetarianism is a choice everyone should consider at least once, whether it's weight issues or just morals. Still, nobody should turn down any kind of homecooked food, vegetarian or not.
sickmoooocow 10 months ago
Whoah. Some insecure omnivores on here.
bubbamittens 10 months ago
@bubbamittens more like stupid carnivores.
chickenshitt 6 months ago
@sdguero28 Piss off, at least vegetarians are smart enough to stand up and know how Forrest Gump inbreds treat animals. Kill it, cook it, eat it turned me a vegetarian. And just because I wear nice Marks & Spencers smart clothes, does not make me up my own arse.
28DLFTW 10 months ago
Haha. The uppity veggies on here. So funny. Vegetarianism is a religion, and (in Jesse Ventura's words) a crutch of the weak minded.
sdguero28 10 months ago
@sdguero28 Um, who the hell is Jesse Ventura?
Skyrenx 10 months ago
@cello19661 Hold on dickehead, just because I say I'm vegetarian, I'm an attention seeker? What the fuck are you talking about? Mate, just stop posting comments when your'e clearly full of fucking shit. Face it, you've lost, now do everyone a favour and fuck off now, your doing every ones head in.
28DLFTW 10 months ago
@cello19661 And you knew what I meant about the sausage and mayonnaise DICKHEAD!
28DLFTW 10 months ago
@cello19661 Unfortunately, you are bang wrong, I've been vegetarian for nearly 5 years, and i have never ever tried to convert a single person, in fact, I discourage it, its unhealthy. So I win, you lose, deal with it. And further more, I don't mind preparing food for meat eaters. So just stop with your mindless fucking nonsense that is not true. I'm fair, I do not force my beliefs on anyone.
28DLFTW 10 months ago
@28DLFTW The simple fact that you classify yourself as a vegetarian shows your holier-than-thou attitude. If you didn't think that way, you wouldn't use that classification and you would just say that you don't eat meat. Deal with it, vegenazi.
Yes, I know what you meant about the sausage and mayonnaise. Only a fruitcake would think that up. So, it's obvious what your sexual orientation is.
cello19661 10 months ago
@cello19661 Go and shove battered sausages down your mouth with extra mayonnaise on the end!
28DLFTW 10 months ago
@28DLFTW Mayonnaise doesn't really go with sausage, but a spicy mustard would. Mmmmmmmm.
cello19661 10 months ago
@cello19661 Fuck off you common piece of scum!
28DLFTW 10 months ago
@28DLFTW Eat your brussels sprouts and calm down, vegenazi.
cello19661 10 months ago
I dont know what kind of vegetarians mr. anthony had met but we are calm people we dont attack nobody we dont push ourselves on nobody,if somebody ask we kindly answer the same dumb and boring question,what do you eat,dont you know vegetables are alive too,awg so annoying,who ever want to eat meat eat it just be civilize and leave vegans alone,the most smartes people in history were vegetarians and they never attack nobody they live a dessent live.compassion for the animals go vegan.no shame
ruthomom 10 months ago
Vegetarians/Vegans are just holier-than-thou asses. I prefer to call them vegenazis.
cello19661 10 months ago
@cello19661 Using "nazi" and vegan is a bit much....especially as what meat eaters essentially support is the rounding up of millions of animals in horrible conditions, and slaughtering of them....the nazis rounded up millions of humans, treated them like animals and then slaughtered them.
CompassionateChap 10 months ago
@CompassionateChap Calling vegetarians/vegans nazis is perfectly appropriate because they want to force everyone else to stop eating meat. If they don't want to eat meat, that's their problem. However, they need to mind their own business.
Don't equate animals with humans. Animals are meant to be eaten.
cello19661 10 months ago
@cello19661 Some vegans/vegetarians want to force everyone else to stop eating meat, not all. Just as some meat eaters are vile individuals who say ridiculous and insensitive comments. If animals are mean't to be eaten, then so are we.....in fact, it would be healthier to eat humans, as human flesh is a far more complete protein than that of other animals! Go tuck in!
CompassionateChap 10 months ago
@cello19661 hell yea, vegetarians are a bunch of arrogant obnoxious pricks who think theyre better than you just because of some choice that makes their life somewhat less convenient, theyre kind of like christians in that sense, very obnoxious and stuck up
wohodude100 10 months ago
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cello19661 10 months ago
@wohodude100 i'm a vegetarian and don't think i'm better than anyone else and i'm sure a lot of Christians don't either. so pull your head out of your ass and realize that everyone is different and no particular group of people act the same way.
9494blahblah 9 months ago
@wohodude100 as a vegetarian and a christian, your comment doesn't offend me the slightest because ignorant people like you who say something at all about what they don't know abounds the earth like vegetation. but i'm commenting anyway to let you know that.
chickenshitt 6 months ago
It's a basic fact of human existence that in order for us to live, something else is going to have to die. Every farm, even the ones that are "organic" or only grow vegetables represent a threat to animal life in the form of habitat loss, which not only means the loss of homes, but also of food source. Let's assume that there are 100 million vegans in the world (a modest estimate). That number is still a huge impact on animal populations.
TADahar 11 months ago
@TADahar Absolutely, and even something as herbivourous as a cow, will accidentally consume insects, or even step on rodents whilst grazing. I guess the big point is that by becoming a vegan or vegetarian, you are vastly reducing your footprint on animal deaths. Also, remember that so many millions of acres of forest have been flattened to produce land for grazing livestock, and for crops for animal feed - that must be a huge death toll.
CompassionateChap 11 months ago
@CompassionateChap
"..you are vastly reducing your footprint on animal deaths."
So life is only precious when it has eyebrows? There's good research that points at least to an awareness in plants when threats to their continued existence appear, an awareness that they relay to other plants that share their genus via a communication system akin to a neural network. If plants are shown to have consciousness, what are vegans going to do? Start eating air?
TADahar 10 months ago
@TADahar No, because its our natural diet to eat plant food - we can't live without it, so we should eat it. Just as a lion must eat wild prey. We don't need meat, we need to eat plant life.
And yes, killing an animal is far more traumatic than killing a plant - a brain and central nervous system backs this up. Its pedantic people like you, who find the most absurd reasons to try and distract from the real issues.
CompassionateChap 10 months ago
@CompassionateChap
Excuse me, but you're just as guilty of pedantry as I am. Every intellectual person who feels passion for the causes that move them indulge in a little bit of pedantry here and there. I say that I am being more realistic than you are. It would be a more achievable goal to gradually teach people to be more aware of their choices and more modest in their consumption than it would be to compell them towards a drastic diet change.
TADahar 10 months ago
@CompassionateChap Your assertion that a vegetarian diet is natural to human beings at best arguable. You look at teeth and see herbivore, I look at teeth and see omnivore. Some studies have looked at chimpanzee diets in the wild and have tied that to what early humans were eating. I would agree, a diet with more plant material than animal protein is more ideal, but you would have to agree on the role of animal protein in the development of the human brain.
TADahar 10 months ago
@TADahar Teeth vary so much between species, but the old pro-meat claims are that we have canines.....as do some herbivores. The teeth we have are not really suited to chewing and tearing meat, in particular raw meat which would be often problematic to tear through (let alone not great to digest....ever eaten raw chicken?)
As for your comment about animal protein - no I don't agree. Eating meat doesn't make a species smart, as many carnivorous creatures would prove.
CompassionateChap 10 months ago