Muslims think of non-muslims as dogshit under their feet, we are infidels that makes us less than human in their eyes.
We look at muslims and see ignorance and a caveman mentality and their sharia law in nothing less than barbaric and sadistic.
Muslims and other religions can not live side by side. Muslims will only get along with us when their numbers are small, the moment they grow to about 5%, they start with their demands.
@SonyPlaystationNL The internet is still a free speach place and I can go to whatever sites I please and say anything I wish.
I feel it is my duty as a human to point out that islam is a clear and present danger to all free countries of the world. Sharia law would put us back 1,500 years and kill all science programs and all advances in medicine. We sould not need oil as cars could and would not be invented by muslims.
@justanoldman1 1 thing that is only right in you're comment is that you are free to do whatever you please to do. But then you say that Sharia law will put us back 1500 years and kill science and the health care. There my friend you are fault. Sharia law is only gets involved when ever you go against it like in nowadays you got rules so does God has them. And he send it to the people to follow them and if you cross them you get a punishment.
@SonyPlaystationNL Shariah Law would destroy freedom. First, how dare you try to force your shit on other people.
Second, islam is from a monster that fucked a child, raped women, owned and traded sex slaves, wore little girl's clothing, had people murdered, beheaded people, made babies and little boys suck his tongue, etc, etc...and I want nothing to do with his evil.
Third, over 10 MILLION muslims have been killed BY OTHER MUSLIMS since 1948. I want no part of your violence.
@SonyPlaystationNL LOL my bad that comment was mint for the other guy. yes Islam Created one of the best civilization the world has seen at that time in Al Andulas the Christians and jews could not read when the moors got there, the moors let them keep there religion if islam was so hostile they could have wipe them out without braking a sweat.
@Qudra111 no problem and thats reality but people wont accept it. because before the moors arrived jews where opressed by the christians but they wont learn from their history...
@justanoldman1 Ok now on the science. Did you know that muslims invent the Math what people practice today in school. Muslims where the first that knew that we got the universe surrounded the earth you know why because of the Quran you can read it all.
@SonyPlaystationNL Total bullshit. I looked this up. The countries you invaded...you stole their property, land AND THEIR IDEAS. You claimed what THEY created.
Today?
Muslims are 22 percent of the world population and produce less than five percent of global GDP.
From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims only 7 have won a Nobel Prize.
From a pool of 12 million Jews an amazing 168 have won a Nobel Prize.
Muslims don't have the faintest idea about spiritual matters. They can only see the outer part of things, that's why they misinterpret what true religions teach.
Inferior dimensions can't understand superior dimensions.
islam is an entropic backward crazy suicidal system. Say no to islam!
@Hovers82: Surah Yunes, verse 99: "And had thy Lord willed, those who are on the earth would have believed, all of them, together; canst thou then compel mankind until they become believers?" There many verses like that about the freedom of accepting Islam or not, but she mixed truth with falsehood: Qur'an 3/85: "And whosoever will seek a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted of Him, and he shall be of the losers in the Hereafter."
@jhall38 Which is the equivalent of saying that this book, like all the other Abrahamic religious texts, contradicts itself in ways too numerous to count. In point of fact, it's impossible NOT to cherry pick these compendiums of superstition in order to support whatever 'flavor' of 'belief' their very adherents choose to adopt. She's doing nothing followers of the Quran (or the Bible) don't do every day.
@tezhowes On the contrary, Karen Armstrong's approach to the study of religion does not represent typical scholarly approaches. There are a variety of approaches, a fact over which your comment glosses. Considering texts critically as to literary type, history, relation to texts from the same period, textual transmission, theology, etc. are subjects scholars find worthwhile pursuing. Karen Armstrong is more of a creative storyteller with her own crusade to teach compassion.
@tezhowes Begging your pardon, your comment seems rather anti-intellectual. Aren't religious texts from ancient and medieval times worth investigating? Are all the schools of religion housed in major universities around the world wasting their time? Must all investigations involve "cherry picking"? Is it fair to draw the conclusion that all the literature of the world's religions are "compendiums of superstition"? Far too simplistic. The genre to be considered are rich and diverse.
im muslim and i agree with this womans point. as i continue reading the quran i do see that the message is that there are jews who unnderstand and christians whom understand and dont deny our revelations....amongst christians u have many denominations some believe in the trinity some do not and jews are not to be confused with zionists they are not one in the same. it also says that God will inform us all on that where we differed. BUT!....this ladys fingers still creep me out
Story of Islam: A crazy, insecure and horny man named muhammed creates 'allah', an imaginary friend. His imaginary friend tells him it's OK to murder people that make fun of him, marry and fuck little 9 year old girls, have slaves, demand submission and kill the Jews/infidels. So muhammed preaches evil and gathers up other asswipes and starts 'islam', where more and more crazy, insecure and horny men use the excuse of 'allah' to fuck children, rape, beat, terrorize & murder the infidel.
("Why do Submitters consider Muhammad (PBUH) literate when the Quran states otherwise?")
The answer is: because they think that him being illiterate is an insult, obviously they don't know the difference between illiterate and ignorant as literate people can be very ignorant and illiterate people can be highly educated, while the fastest and easiest way to gain knowledge is by reading, it is not the only way; you can gain knowledge by listening too.
Does Islam teach respect for other Religions? See Islamic majority country in the world, none restrict another religion to do their religious deed. Compare it to non-Islamic majority country, they will burn mosque if you build near them.
9:6- "If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge."
Does it cost you so much to read the next verse, which ruins your idea that we start a fight with non-muslims(not to mention this prohibition of starting wars in other verses also).
It's even obvious you've only read the translation... Do what you have to do, but it changes nothing really.
@Jessewb as i already explained sura 9:5 is a jidai verse,it was used to kill at least 70 million hindus/buddhists during the islamic invasion of hindustan,do you know what the hindu kush region means in translation?sura 9:6 says that if traitors seek asylum and want to become muslim then they are allowed to live,all the others are to be wiped out,it clear and simple to see what these suras mean,they=genocide of the unbelievers
@Jessewb i see you are a student i suggest you learn 2 things at college,1 human evolution,2 embryology then compare these facts with what it says in your quran and then you will know that you were lied to all your life
If wholesale across the board compulsory conversion to islam was forbidden, it would most probably have been because the arabs wanted to maximize their revenue collection from dhimmis (jizya) in order to fund further conquest and bloodshed. , It would not be as economically prudent or in the muzlims' interests if everyone they encountered had converted to islam.
pedophile muhammads allah says that he victimizes muslims and leads them astray(sura 14:4),this allah urges muslims to sin because he wants to fill hell with them(sura 7:178-179),then this merciful allah does satans work in hell unmercifully torturing his muslim victims(sura 4:56)
Jews see Arabs as "Amalek" עֲמָלֵק who are the ancient enemies of Jews & whom Jewish Law (Halakha) mandates much be "annihilated".
Israeli "academic" Hannah Kasher (Bar-Ilan Uni.) wrote in a paper called: "Rationales Justifying Collective Punishment of Amalek" *(ie: justifying killing Arab kids):
"Any person descended of Amalek (Arabs) has a death sentence over his head from the moment of his birth.... one does not refrain from killing women & children."
@SuperAntiZionist dude , jews ,arabs , persians, chaldeans, assyrians are all semitic tribes, while the word semitic is used modernly to only imply the jewish race, it used 2 mean something completly different how can the jews hate arabs when they are blood related?
@nabuchiznasar Jews hate Arabs? I should think you have it in reverse. Go to the borders of Israel with Arab nations. There is relatively NO military presence there (except when Muslims are planning attacks of Israel) since even Muslims know that Jewish people aren't "out to get them". However, as the whole world understands (at least the literate world that reads Islam's profane, anti-Jewish texts), the military presence on the Israeli side of its borders is immense. Muslims hate Jews.
Islam is rahter more a very backwards ideology, then a religion it seems to me and many people that they are living in the middle-ages, and they are some sort of proud on it, very rare to see in the modern world, even the rules are backwards like the way they treat women , or the sharia-law, even animals don't do that to eachother, well if Allah would really exists, then was Islam his best practical joke, if not , some fool earlier came up with this joke
If you had read the qur'an to read what comes before and after those verses, you wouldn't have been posting references to single verses without context, now would you.
You are the liar here. I don't need a reply from you.
Probably whoever reads this would check it up themselves in context and not be deceived by your idiocy... I say hopefully, not everyone will.
@Jessewb these suras are not out of context,sura 9:5 comes after the earlier suras telling muslims that they are not bound to any contracts with unbelievers,therefore muslims can break peace treaties and wage aggresive jihad,the later verses say that if unbelievers surrender and choose to accept islam then they can survive,sura 9:29 is also an aggressive sura and 8:39 says that all unbelivers must accept allah,if they make peace then they can survive,but only as dhimmis or converts to islam
@Jessewb you are a liar,it says allah is not bound by contracts to the unbelievers,it does however say if the muslims are allied to unbelievers then to keep these treaties until the time is up,when the time is up these unbelievers then fit into sura 9:5,wait for them,ambush them and kill them when the holy months are over
And no, you do not know if I will burn in hell, for all I know, you could burn in hell yourself.
Have you got some magical VIP card that gives you certainty?
You haven't got any certainty at all, just opinions, so come back to me when you have some actually evidence, specially if you are going to SHOW A MUSLIM HIS OWN BOOK OF GUIDANCE, do you think I haven't read it? -.-'
@Jessewb why does the true God of the heavens kill 1000s of muslims on their pilgrimage?read about the freak accidents known as the hajj disasters,why did the true God humiliate your muhammadian allah in 1941 kaaba flood?go look at the photographs of this event
There is no bias in God, and FYI, Allah means God.
There is no humiliation in death. If you even believe in a heaven, it makes the concept of "humiliation" by death even more ridiculous.
Everything happens the way it must happen, I have no idea how you are able to conclude what the purpose behind such events were, did you get this from God personally?
I'm just saying that so that you see such arguments are weightless.
@Jessewb before you go you should do a little bit of research into the origins of islam,i know you think that islam was the first to say that there is no god,but one god,you probably also assume that praying 5 times a day,salat,performing cleansing,fasting for 30 days,circling the hajj,lunar calender are all original to islam,however you are very much mistaken,all of these rituals are sabien and this monotheist religion predates both christianity and islam,it also exists to this very day
Actually I don't, because as a muslim a person carries the view that Islam is not just the name of a religion, it is an action "to submit to the will of God" and therefore, there have been similar acts before Islam(religion) because people did submit to the will of God.
Check the prayer of the Orthodox Jews, compare it to muslims.
If there is a true God, that God was always there, he didn't come later (and sacrifice himself in some cases).
@Jessewb how can you say that God has always being there?humans beings have being around for at least 100,000 years,the earth is 4.5 billion years old,the universe has being accurately measured to be 13 billion years old,the abrahamic god said he made all of creation including man in 6 days,the bible says adam existed 5000 years ago,this makes a lot of missing years,besides where was your allah during the 1941 flood?where was he when muhammad was choking on the poision at khaybar?
Oh sorry, I didn't know the basics about the universe -.-'.
Not surprised at your assumptions though, with creationists and young world believers around the world, but I do take offence to the assumption that I did not know, you could have asked.
If you understood that La ilaha il Allah , doesn't even have the verb "to be" as in English, because existing as in this universe does not apply to God, you'd understand that questions such as "when" or "where" to God are nonsensical.
@Jessewb La ilaha il Allah is copied from the sabiens as is praying 5 times daily,hajj,salat,abultion,fasting for 30 days,lunar calender,why do you muslims always copy others and then claim to be original?the sabian religion predates both christianity and islam,its no wonder why you are genociding the remaining sabiens in iraq,you dont want others to know that muhammad was inspired by them more than he was by an imaginary allah
@Jessewb your muhammadian allah is nonsensical,because he is non existional,1941 kaaba photographs prove this,you are just an indoctrinated brainwashed servant to a rock in the kaaba,i bet muhammad is laughing at you from hell,afterall sura 4:56 reveals that that is where himself and allah do their work
@Jessewb muhammad =pedophile,terrorist,false prophet that choked on the goat dish at khaybar,if muhammad was really a true prophet he would of made goat dishes haram and pork dishes halal,if satan exists then he surely misguides you sura 4:14,7:178,because he wants to fil hell with you surea 7:179,allah is not all loving or merciful if he guides whom he wills astray
@Jessewb if you say god has always existed,then why not say that the universe has always existed?why complicate things further by saying something even more complex than the universe exists?i believe in multiple universe,infinite cycles of big bangs,big crunches,many scientists have the same conclusion,its a straw man arguement to simply say there is intelligent design without explaining who or what created the intelligent designer,you know very little about islam,as i said its sabian influenced
Actually, God being more complex than nature is nothing more than assumption, that somehow God is mechanical and pushed through time in a mechanical way just like we are. The fundamental mistake of superimposing our experience of things on everything else.
The universe is cause and effect based, even if I were to suppose looped time, I cannot eliminate infinite regression and still respect unitarity which guarantees one future and one past to each state.
@Jessewb lol you are a blond haired muslim,i bet your mom was white christian and your dad an arab muslim,its a well known phenomena that muslim men go for white girls,especially if they are easy meat,then they get a european visa and breed more jihadis,its a win,win,win for the muslims,how is your mom?i bet she is a very unhappy woman now,but its too late for her already
@Jessewb it is not bigotry,its a well known fact that muslim men prefer non muslim women,also muslim women are not allowed to marry non muslim men,this is how islam spreads,if what you say is true then i know your parents most feel really bad that you have joined the enemy of european civilization,sura 5:51 and sura 9:29 goes to show me that you have contempt for your own parents
Please state where you get this data from, instead of pulling this out of where you pull the rest.
And again speculation has led you wrong, since islam shows me to respect my parents and if they need to go to their places of worship, I take them, but I do not pray with them.
You're trend of failing assumptions should eventually lead you to the conclusion that if the hypothesis does not fit the practical, the hypothesis is wrong.
@Jessewb what data do you need?also your quran commands you to disown family members if they are unbelievers,so enough of your lies,unlike you i have read the quran,even though it said quite clearly it was complete in sura 5:3 i still read all of the other lies in it too,then i binned it as a book of hate speech and islamic domination,muhammad done it all for 1/5 of warbooty and virgin young girls,i know blondes are dumb,but i never thought they would be dumb enough to become a muslim
I have read the Qur'an and I've given lectures on Qur'anic interpretation at my own university.
I don't think I need you coming here with not academic merit in the matter, not Islamic studies trying to pose as some sort of Islamic scholar who doesn't even understand arabic to interpret it.
You base yourself of a translation.
It's ok, if it makes you feel better, I'll let you ramble onwards in your belief that somehow a muslim must have some magical incoherent faith .
@Jessewb Sura 37:6-7 (Those Who Set The Ranks /Drawn Up In Ranks) "We have indeed decked the lower heaven with beauty (in) the stars, - (For beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious evil spirits," Sura 67:5 (The Sovereignty /Control) "And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones …"
67:5-And We have certainly beautified the nearest heaven with stars and have made [from] them what is thrown at the devils and have prepared for them the punishment of the Blaze.
The lowest heaven according to the description of the universe is taken as the Observable universe, what we can see.
When said that the moon is amidst the heavens, it still fits within the 1st heaven.
Specially when understanding the arabic.
Notice the connotations between yours and my 67:5.
I don't even argue intelligent design, evolution doesn't do away with anything, it's a by product of the universe's laws. It's how our bodies came in to being. I'd say it says nothing about God, but it actually confirms what the Qur'an says as "The subtle", "The evolver".
The argument of previous cultures is pointless if the source of some of the customs is the same God, and muslims know that, you're introducing nothing new here... I don't think you understand that.
@Jessewb according to islam,quran and authentic hadith,the first man adam was made from mud and was 30 meters tall,this would make him taller than the largest known dinosaurs,where are the fossils of these giants?where is your evidence?maybe because they were made out of mus they left no physical proof,do you really think we came from the incestous children of adam and eve?,its no wonder why you muslims do not make great contributions to modern science
According to Islam, there is not 1 creation, there is a creation of man in Jannah, which isn't these heavens.
And there is the creation by stages in this universe. The whole brought down story... do you think we expected some sort of UFOs to come drop us off and the rest of the creatures?
My astrophysics professor said very well, there are two types of people who like to speculate, he who knows very little, and he who knows a lot, your constant misses, show you fit the former
@Jessewb i am the one that uses facts,reason and logic,you are the one that believes in supersticious fairytales,the quran says that stars are for firing missiles at mischiefous jinn LOL,it also says that the world was created like a carpet spread out and that the sun sets into a murky pool in the west,LOL crazy assed muslims,i can understand muhaamad in the 7th century believing his own nonsense,but dude,c'mon you need to wise up eh?
Btw you are using nothing more than self-satisfactory interpretation without taking in to account the actual concepts and connotations of the words in their original language.
(a) Bringing up as an argument Djinn which neither prove or disprove anything.
(b) It was well known the spherical nature of the Earth, when speaking of spread out as a carpet, the connotations imply a safe guarding from a dirty/improper surface.
(c)Argument from ridicule is childish, not logical.
@Jessewb listen pal you are just a brainwashed rock worshipper,where is your feedback to me about the sabian religion?,don't you think that its much more of a coincidence that islamic rituals are ripped from the older sabian religion?,even the pagan meccans called muhammad a sabian,lets take the sabian ritual of praying 5 times daily,muhammad made the self acclaimed night journey through 7 heavens on the back of a flying donkey(buraq) in order to meet allah in order to arrange prayer times
@Jessewb allah demanded 50 prayers daily from the muslims,,however muhammad with the help of moses got a remission from 50 to 5,its seems your allah was open to persuasion by mere prophets,what an incompetent fairytale God to believe in and you call me childish LOL
@Jessewb you seem to ignore the many hadiths that involve demonic jinn,sura 7:179 says allah has created many men and jinn for hell,many hadiths say that invisible magical jinn stand on eachothers shoulders in order to eavesdrop on islamic heaven,where they tell lies to eachother as they pass down what they hear,so allah get stars to fire missiles at this jinn,whats the point of doing this if they are getting misinformation from eachother anyway?
@Jessewb stupid crazy childish fairytale anf you claim to be a student LOL,also muhammad did think the world was flat like a carpet spread out,he also claims mountains were like pegs firm and unmovable,which is a lie because teutonic plate movement creates mountains,the quran says the sun "sets" in a particular place in the west(the sun never sets on a global earth),the quran also says it rises in the deserts of the east
@Jessewb The quran demands all muslims to face the kaaba during prayer(impossible on a global earth),how does someone face mecca if they are on the otherside of the earth?basically they will have to bow to where their feet are posistioned,it is easy to ridicule your muhammadism,i suspect you are a pedophile,afterall islam does allow child marriage and command the rape of female captives,so maybe you have sexually perverse motives for your beliefs
The otherside of the Earth is in the center of The Pacific. Anywhere you are you can face Mecca. I don't see the issue, but besides that, you don't even seem to understand why we face Mecca.
Pedophile? Complain to nature, but oh wait.. nature doesn't give a fuck about human law, and how humans decide maturity based of how many times you went around the sun rather than when nature says a body is ready for pregnancy.
@Jessewb nature does not care for islams most sacred grounds,they were flooded in rain and sewer waters in 1941,nature also cares not for muhammad who died a slow and painful death after consumning the poision at khaybar,maybe he forgot to drink the camels urine as medicine LOL,read your hadiths you indoctrinated clown
@DuckingNDiving We don't really have such a thing as "sacred grounds", it's why we basically pray from anywhere in the world. Makkah is considered a holy place to visit, yes, but it's not like.. oooo, nothing can happen to it :O. Do You even know how many times the Kabbah has even changed shape.
But Mohammad(pbuh) did not die from poisoning, he died with his head on Aisha's lap.
Who feeds you this nonsense? Like, did you even bother to check with actual historians?
@Jessewb muhammad did die from the effects of the poision at khaybar,read your bukhari hadiths and stop telling lies,it is clear i know more about islam than you do,thats why i do not worship a rock
Do you need me to recite to you the whole Qur'an stating how the Qur'an equates men with women, saying "For the believing men and the believing women." and "Men and women are as garments for each other".
Do you even understand the Tafsir of 4:34, did you read the hadith on what Mohammad(SAW) said.
You understand my religion as much as a dog understands Calculus.
If you had even read sura 112, you'd see how idiotic the rock claim is.
@Jessewb sura 2:223 and sura 4:34 are quite clear that women are slaves to their male masters,the hadiths are even more antiwoman,in islamic countries today women cannot be leaders,judges and their word is only worth half a mans,go read the hadiths that say a woman is deficient in intelligence,in saudia arabia women cannot even drive cars,however western women can be presidents,judges and were even driving cars,flying aeroplanes and going to outter space before muslim men,thats why you hate them
@Jessewb i certainly know more about islam than you do pal,muhammad choked on the poision at khaybar and died a slow and painful death as a result,even angel gabriel prayed over him in an effort to heal him,but failed,read your hadiths,read about the sabians,look at the photographs of 1941 kaaba flood,i even read scientific tests on zam zam water that say it has dangerously high levels of arsenic,where is your muhammadian allah?
Dangerous levels are arsenic?! ZamZam water has most calcium and magnesium, with some fluoride, both Labs in Europe and Arabia confirm it's drinkable water. Are you ok..."pal"?
This is a pure waste of my time...
You go spread around whatever it is you enjoy saying. I can't be bothered wasting my time on nonsense, I gave you a fair enough quantity of attention.
@Jessewb BBC world service says that your holy water is poisionous,so go on drink some,don't blame me if you get poorly,it is you that is wasting my time with your childish beliefs in muhammadism,i bet you also believe he flew to heaven on the back of a winged donkey(buraq) on his self proclaimed night journey where he with moses help outsmarted allah and got a remission of prayer times from 50 to 5 LOL
@Jessewb grow up idiot,its no wonder why so many of you do suicide bombings,its because you realize you are idiots and cannot live with the shame and embarrassment that you have believed in such nonsense for most of your metally challenged lifes
@DuckingNDiving muhamad was raised by a christian clergy whom he killed afterwards and tossed in a dam which till this current day muslims throw stones in believing the devil lurkes there..christians priests and bishops were amongst the highest educated people and possibly the only people whom knew how to read and write properly.. its highly unlikely muhamad was illiterate how ever its added for its aesthetic appeall as offcourse its claimed the quran was recited and never written ..
@nabuchiznasar the bukhari hadiths of the pen and paper prove that pedo mo could write,at least near the point of his death,he even wanted to add more to his quran,however he was stopped by his companions at his bedside,because sura 5:3 clearly says that the quran was complete,muhammad was the sole author of his hate filled book,which was not properly compiled until caliph uthmans reign 20 yrs after mo's death,all the other versions were burnt at this time
@IRISHINFIDEL Where is your evidence for your claim that "Salahuddin killed way more Muslims than the Crusaders did"?? A claim not even made by Salahuddin's biggest enemies!! Why are you jumping from topic to topic. Where is your evidence???
@Jessewb as i said LA ILAHA ILL ALLAH and praying 5 times daily is from the SABIAN religion,try and prove me wrong,historical facts are on my side and rock worshipping is all you got pal,so carry on with your madness,europe will never be islamified into such a retarded culture
@DuckingNDiving lolz we muslims dont worship the "rock" as you say it. instead, it is the central point of concentration for all muslims when we engage in prayer. The "rock" doesnt carry special powers nor are we idol worshippers. and praying 5 times a day were instructions given to muslims from God through the prophet during al isra al miraj.
@saifMSK why don't you look at photographs of the 1941 kaaba flood,then you will see how the true God of the heavens humilated your muhammadian allahs most sacred grounds and please don't tell me that pedo mo flew to heaven on a flying donkey(buraq) on his much fabled night journey to outsmart allah and get a remission from 50 prayers daily to 5,we all know that pedo mo copied the sabians,they pray 5 times daily and perform abultion,salat,fasting for 30 days,lunar calender etc,pedo mo is a liar
@Jessewb as a portugese you should be more interested in the miracle of the sun in 1917 fatima portugal than what happened during 7th century arabia,at least in fatima there were witnessess,unlike muhammad in the cave getting apparitions that he originally claimed were satanic
Oh don't give me this rape business, honestly, how much of an imbecile do you need to make of yourself contradicting basic principle of freedom in Islam to someone who's read his holy book and studied not only the narrations, but also common interpretation, aside from actually having gone through the arabic.
It's a lot worse when you dance around people who know than people who don't. Honestly... how some people can do this is beyond me.. I'd be ashamed.
@Jessewb ok why do you not explain the rape suras to me?afterall the quran is open to interpretion,also why are women to be treated like fields to men and can be entered in any way a man chooses,also why is it permissable to beat up women if they do not obey their male masters?i can see how islam appeals to you,i think you want to beat women and marry child girls foe pedophilic sex,why else would someone worship a rock unless they had uncontrollable sexual deviant urges
The Qur'an states that to interpret it, you must interpret as a whole.
About the "women as fields" nonsense, have you ever heard of "Mother Earth", the similitude comes from the fact that women are the ones from which bloom the seeds of life. If you weren't so blinded by your hate, it'd be easy.
There is no literal beating of wives, did you read the hadith and tafseer? Obviously not!
The more I hear from you, the more I see you know nothing about Islam.
@Jessewb you muslims do worship a rock,bowing to mecca is what the pagan arabs did,you also go to a hajj to kiss/lick the kaaba or run around it pointing at it like mad men
@DuckingNDiving The kaaba was build by Abraham , and you must not tell us that we worship a rock and act like you know it all . first get some knowledge about islam than give a clear comment, because what you say only proves how dumb you are .!!!
Secondly she says that everyone doesn't have to be Muslim and if Allah willed everyone would have been, which is true, here Allah is addressing the notion of free will and human inclination, had Allah made everyone submit to his will (Islam) then it wouldn't be possible to judge who is the most deserving and rightious.
Whether you want to be Muslim is up to you, find out about Islam yourself from reputable sources, after all the question of hellfire and paradise is at question.
Muslims havent fallen into any trap and its not ego, she is right in quoting that "there is no compulsion in religeon" which is true, but what she wrongly concludes at the beginning of her speech and misinterprets is that the Quran confirms what little of Gods words is in the former scriptures and CORRECTS what wrong, if she truely has read the whole of the Quran she would know this and know its not ego at all.
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Muslims think of non-muslims as dogshit under their feet, we are infidels that makes us less than human in their eyes.
We look at muslims and see ignorance and a caveman mentality and their sharia law in nothing less than barbaric and sadistic.
Muslims and other religions can not live side by side. Muslims will only get along with us when their numbers are small, the moment they grow to about 5%, they start with their demands.
Separate swimming pools, prayer rooms etc.
justanoldman1 1 month ago
@justanoldman1 and you as a non muslim saying this proofing to me you contradict us so please go to you're forums and talk there please.
SonyPlaystationNL 1 month ago
@SonyPlaystationNL The internet is still a free speach place and I can go to whatever sites I please and say anything I wish.
I feel it is my duty as a human to point out that islam is a clear and present danger to all free countries of the world. Sharia law would put us back 1,500 years and kill all science programs and all advances in medicine. We sould not need oil as cars could and would not be invented by muslims.
justanoldman1 1 month ago
@justanoldman1 1 thing that is only right in you're comment is that you are free to do whatever you please to do. But then you say that Sharia law will put us back 1500 years and kill science and the health care. There my friend you are fault. Sharia law is only gets involved when ever you go against it like in nowadays you got rules so does God has them. And he send it to the people to follow them and if you cross them you get a punishment.
SonyPlaystationNL 1 month ago
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@SonyPlaystationNL Shariah Law would destroy freedom. First, how dare you try to force your shit on other people.
Second, islam is from a monster that fucked a child, raped women, owned and traded sex slaves, wore little girl's clothing, had people murdered, beheaded people, made babies and little boys suck his tongue, etc, etc...and I want nothing to do with his evil.
Third, over 10 MILLION muslims have been killed BY OTHER MUSLIMS since 1948. I want no part of your violence.
dominiquehoward 2 weeks ago
@SonyPlaystationNL u sound stupid google: History of Al Andulas and Timbuktu
Qudra111 2 weeks ago
@Qudra111 And most of them of the Al Andulas where muslim in the time of moors. Dont you know that?
SonyPlaystationNL 2 weeks ago
@SonyPlaystationNL LOL my bad that comment was mint for the other guy. yes Islam Created one of the best civilization the world has seen at that time in Al Andulas the Christians and jews could not read when the moors got there, the moors let them keep there religion if islam was so hostile they could have wipe them out without braking a sweat.
Qudra111 2 weeks ago
@Qudra111 no problem and thats reality but people wont accept it. because before the moors arrived jews where opressed by the christians but they wont learn from their history...
SonyPlaystationNL 2 weeks ago
@justanoldman1 Ok now on the science. Did you know that muslims invent the Math what people practice today in school. Muslims where the first that knew that we got the universe surrounded the earth you know why because of the Quran you can read it all.
SonyPlaystationNL 1 month ago
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@SonyPlaystationNL Total bullshit. I looked this up. The countries you invaded...you stole their property, land AND THEIR IDEAS. You claimed what THEY created.
Today?
Muslims are 22 percent of the world population and produce less than five percent of global GDP.
From a pool of 1.4 BILLION Muslims only 7 have won a Nobel Prize.
From a pool of 12 million Jews an amazing 168 have won a Nobel Prize.
\Islam = FAIL
dominiquehoward 2 weeks ago
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@justanoldman1 They are less than 1% in the USA and are starting with demands and suing companies that do not 'submit' to their demands.
Abercrombie & Fitch, Whole Foods, Hertz, American Bottling Company, Mc Donald's, and many more.......
dominiquehoward 2 weeks ago
ys we do Jews and Christians are respected as "People of the Book," but they have wrong beliefs and only partial revelation.
FLATRON20100 2 months ago
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Muslims don't have the faintest idea about spiritual matters. They can only see the outer part of things, that's why they misinterpret what true religions teach.
Inferior dimensions can't understand superior dimensions.
islam is an entropic backward crazy suicidal system. Say no to islam!
ThePunkLei 2 months ago
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IRISHINFIDEL 2 months ago
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IRISHINFIDEL 2 months ago
Nonsense...
Rahmendanel 3 months ago
Which surah was it from when she said "if Allah wills He would create the whole mankind in one religion?"
Hovers82 3 months ago
@Hovers82: Surah Yunes, verse 99: "And had thy Lord willed, those who are on the earth would have believed, all of them, together; canst thou then compel mankind until they become believers?" There many verses like that about the freedom of accepting Islam or not, but she mixed truth with falsehood: Qur'an 3/85: "And whosoever will seek a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted of Him, and he shall be of the losers in the Hereafter."
mbarnabeus 3 months ago
@mbarnabeus Shukran !! May Allah bless your good deeds
Hovers82 3 months ago
This woman is academically dishonest. She has cherry-picked the verses in Islam which support her thesis and ignored the ones that don't.
jhall38 3 months ago
@jhall38 Which is the equivalent of saying that this book, like all the other Abrahamic religious texts, contradicts itself in ways too numerous to count. In point of fact, it's impossible NOT to cherry pick these compendiums of superstition in order to support whatever 'flavor' of 'belief' their very adherents choose to adopt. She's doing nothing followers of the Quran (or the Bible) don't do every day.
tezhowes 3 months ago
@tezhowes On the contrary, Karen Armstrong's approach to the study of religion does not represent typical scholarly approaches. There are a variety of approaches, a fact over which your comment glosses. Considering texts critically as to literary type, history, relation to texts from the same period, textual transmission, theology, etc. are subjects scholars find worthwhile pursuing. Karen Armstrong is more of a creative storyteller with her own crusade to teach compassion.
jhall38 3 months ago
@tezhowes Begging your pardon, your comment seems rather anti-intellectual. Aren't religious texts from ancient and medieval times worth investigating? Are all the schools of religion housed in major universities around the world wasting their time? Must all investigations involve "cherry picking"? Is it fair to draw the conclusion that all the literature of the world's religions are "compendiums of superstition"? Far too simplistic. The genre to be considered are rich and diverse.
jhall38 3 months ago
im muslim and i agree with this womans point. as i continue reading the quran i do see that the message is that there are jews who unnderstand and christians whom understand and dont deny our revelations....amongst christians u have many denominations some believe in the trinity some do not and jews are not to be confused with zionists they are not one in the same. it also says that God will inform us all on that where we differed. BUT!....this ladys fingers still creep me out
imwatchuvideo 5 months ago
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Story of Islam: A crazy, insecure and horny man named muhammed creates 'allah', an imaginary friend. His imaginary friend tells him it's OK to murder people that make fun of him, marry and fuck little 9 year old girls, have slaves, demand submission and kill the Jews/infidels. So muhammed preaches evil and gathers up other asswipes and starts 'islam', where more and more crazy, insecure and horny men use the excuse of 'allah' to fuck children, rape, beat, terrorize & murder the infidel.
dominiquehoward 5 months ago
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The verse which says Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is said to be "illiterate" is that of 7:157 in the Holy Quran.
CHRISTIANABUSED 5 months ago
("Why do Submitters consider Muhammad (PBUH) literate when the Quran states otherwise?")
The answer is: because they think that him being illiterate is an insult, obviously they don't know the difference between illiterate and ignorant as literate people can be very ignorant and illiterate people can be highly educated, while the fastest and easiest way to gain knowledge is by reading, it is not the only way; you can gain knowledge by listening too.
CHRISTIANABUSED 5 months ago
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CHRISTIANABUSED 5 months ago
DuckingNDiving what an idiot who just hate.
CHRISTIANABUSED 5 months ago
Jesus Christ never got on cross according to the bible
BibleExposer 7 months ago
@BibleExposer he never died according to the bible- the sign of Jonah.
pantherlake2002 6 months ago
Does Islam teach respect for other Religions? See Islamic majority country in the world, none restrict another religion to do their religious deed. Compare it to non-Islamic majority country, they will burn mosque if you build near them.
DannyTheSeeker 9 months ago
9:6- "If one amongst the Pagans ask thee for asylum, grant it to him, so that he may hear the word of Allah; and then escort him to where he can be secure. That is because they are men without knowledge."
Does it cost you so much to read the next verse, which ruins your idea that we start a fight with non-muslims(not to mention this prohibition of starting wars in other verses also).
It's even obvious you've only read the translation... Do what you have to do, but it changes nothing really.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb as i already explained sura 9:5 is a jidai verse,it was used to kill at least 70 million hindus/buddhists during the islamic invasion of hindustan,do you know what the hindu kush region means in translation?sura 9:6 says that if traitors seek asylum and want to become muslim then they are allowed to live,all the others are to be wiped out,it clear and simple to see what these suras mean,they=genocide of the unbelievers
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb i see you are a student i suggest you learn 2 things at college,1 human evolution,2 embryology then compare these facts with what it says in your quran and then you will know that you were lied to all your life
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
Armstrong, you are a sad Dhimmie...a useful idiot.
johnhurren 10 months ago
If wholesale across the board compulsory conversion to islam was forbidden, it would most probably have been because the arabs wanted to maximize their revenue collection from dhimmis (jizya) in order to fund further conquest and bloodshed. , It would not be as economically prudent or in the muzlims' interests if everyone they encountered had converted to islam.
GorgeousGeorge108 11 months ago 2
pedophile muhammads allah says that he victimizes muslims and leads them astray(sura 14:4),this allah urges muslims to sin because he wants to fill hell with them(sura 7:178-179),then this merciful allah does satans work in hell unmercifully torturing his muslim victims(sura 4:56)
DuckingNDiving 1 year ago
Jews see Arabs as "Amalek" עֲמָלֵק who are the ancient enemies of Jews & whom Jewish Law (Halakha) mandates much be "annihilated".
Israeli "academic" Hannah Kasher (Bar-Ilan Uni.) wrote in a paper called: "Rationales Justifying Collective Punishment of Amalek" *(ie: justifying killing Arab kids):
"Any person descended of Amalek (Arabs) has a death sentence over his head from the moment of his birth.... one does not refrain from killing women & children."
From: watch?v=MY08-JuClb4
SuperAntiZionist 1 year ago
@SuperAntiZionist dude , jews ,arabs , persians, chaldeans, assyrians are all semitic tribes, while the word semitic is used modernly to only imply the jewish race, it used 2 mean something completly different how can the jews hate arabs when they are blood related?
nabuchiznasar 3 months ago
@nabuchiznasar Jews hate Arabs? I should think you have it in reverse. Go to the borders of Israel with Arab nations. There is relatively NO military presence there (except when Muslims are planning attacks of Israel) since even Muslims know that Jewish people aren't "out to get them". However, as the whole world understands (at least the literate world that reads Islam's profane, anti-Jewish texts), the military presence on the Israeli side of its borders is immense. Muslims hate Jews.
jhall38 3 months ago
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Islam is rahter more a very backwards ideology, then a religion it seems to me and many people that they are living in the middle-ages, and they are some sort of proud on it, very rare to see in the modern world, even the rules are backwards like the way they treat women , or the sharia-law, even animals don't do that to eachother, well if Allah would really exists, then was Islam his best practical joke, if not , some fool earlier came up with this joke
longsweep1 1 year ago
Interresting so you mohammedans have now "Christian" female Imams?
JohnConnorTM 1 year ago
@JohnConnorTM mohammedans lol its muslims ?!?!
MegaTraCkz 1 year ago
@MegaTraCkz
'Muslim' is a meaningless word. They blindly follow mohammed, therefore they are mohammedans. QED
Supajohnny
johnhurren 10 months ago
3:19 - Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him (Islam)
katalkhair 2 years ago 8
@katalkhair this lady is a liar and so is the quran,sura 9:5,9:29 and 8:39 all contradict this fool and the quran itself
DuckingNDiving 1 year ago
@DuckingNDiving
If you had read the qur'an to read what comes before and after those verses, you wouldn't have been posting references to single verses without context, now would you.
You are the liar here. I don't need a reply from you.
Probably whoever reads this would check it up themselves in context and not be deceived by your idiocy... I say hopefully, not everyone will.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb these suras are not out of context,sura 9:5 comes after the earlier suras telling muslims that they are not bound to any contracts with unbelievers,therefore muslims can break peace treaties and wage aggresive jihad,the later verses say that if unbelievers surrender and choose to accept islam then they can survive,sura 9:29 is also an aggressive sura and 8:39 says that all unbelivers must accept allah,if they make peace then they can survive,but only as dhimmis or converts to islam
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Sorry, but I must call bullshit where I see it.
It says muslims ARE bound by contracts, but that if others break their peace treaties do not hold back.
The surah's go further to state that if one person stops attacking, you must safeguard this "enemy" , regardless of faith.
Honestly, I'm a muslim, I know the Qur'an, read cover to cover more than any christian reads his bible, I know this as a revert.
Wtf is the purpose of lying to people, why do you guys do it?
Sigh... Oh well..
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb you are a liar,it says allah is not bound by contracts to the unbelievers,it does however say if the muslims are allied to unbelievers then to keep these treaties until the time is up,when the time is up these unbelievers then fit into sura 9:5,wait for them,ambush them and kill them when the holy months are over
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb you are the liar,islam is a lie,your muhammadism is from satan,he will lead you astray and then burn you in hell,suras 14:4., 7:178, 4:56
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Get a grip, no need to get all wild on me.
And no, you do not know if I will burn in hell, for all I know, you could burn in hell yourself.
Have you got some magical VIP card that gives you certainty?
You haven't got any certainty at all, just opinions, so come back to me when you have some actually evidence, specially if you are going to SHOW A MUSLIM HIS OWN BOOK OF GUIDANCE, do you think I haven't read it? -.-'
No point in arguing.
Assalamu Allaykum
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb why does the true God of the heavens kill 1000s of muslims on their pilgrimage?read about the freak accidents known as the hajj disasters,why did the true God humiliate your muhammadian allah in 1941 kaaba flood?go look at the photographs of this event
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
There is no bias in God, and FYI, Allah means God.
There is no humiliation in death. If you even believe in a heaven, it makes the concept of "humiliation" by death even more ridiculous.
Everything happens the way it must happen, I have no idea how you are able to conclude what the purpose behind such events were, did you get this from God personally?
I'm just saying that so that you see such arguments are weightless.
Peace ^_^.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb before you go you should do a little bit of research into the origins of islam,i know you think that islam was the first to say that there is no god,but one god,you probably also assume that praying 5 times a day,salat,performing cleansing,fasting for 30 days,circling the hajj,lunar calender are all original to islam,however you are very much mistaken,all of these rituals are sabien and this monotheist religion predates both christianity and islam,it also exists to this very day
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Actually I don't, because as a muslim a person carries the view that Islam is not just the name of a religion, it is an action "to submit to the will of God" and therefore, there have been similar acts before Islam(religion) because people did submit to the will of God.
Check the prayer of the Orthodox Jews, compare it to muslims.
If there is a true God, that God was always there, he didn't come later (and sacrifice himself in some cases).
You lack Islamic studies, hence error.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb how can you say that God has always being there?humans beings have being around for at least 100,000 years,the earth is 4.5 billion years old,the universe has being accurately measured to be 13 billion years old,the abrahamic god said he made all of creation including man in 6 days,the bible says adam existed 5000 years ago,this makes a lot of missing years,besides where was your allah during the 1941 flood?where was he when muhammad was choking on the poision at khaybar?
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Oh sorry, I didn't know the basics about the universe -.-'.
Not surprised at your assumptions though, with creationists and young world believers around the world, but I do take offence to the assumption that I did not know, you could have asked.
If you understood that La ilaha il Allah , doesn't even have the verb "to be" as in English, because existing as in this universe does not apply to God, you'd understand that questions such as "when" or "where" to God are nonsensical.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb La ilaha il Allah is copied from the sabiens as is praying 5 times daily,hajj,salat,abultion,fasting for 30 days,lunar calender,why do you muslims always copy others and then claim to be original?the sabian religion predates both christianity and islam,its no wonder why you are genociding the remaining sabiens in iraq,you dont want others to know that muhammad was inspired by them more than he was by an imaginary allah
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb your muhammadian allah is nonsensical,because he is non existional,1941 kaaba photographs prove this,you are just an indoctrinated brainwashed servant to a rock in the kaaba,i bet muhammad is laughing at you from hell,afterall sura 4:56 reveals that that is where himself and allah do their work
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb muhammad =pedophile,terrorist,false prophet that choked on the goat dish at khaybar,if muhammad was really a true prophet he would of made goat dishes haram and pork dishes halal,if satan exists then he surely misguides you sura 4:14,7:178,because he wants to fil hell with you surea 7:179,allah is not all loving or merciful if he guides whom he wills astray
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb if you say god has always existed,then why not say that the universe has always existed?why complicate things further by saying something even more complex than the universe exists?i believe in multiple universe,infinite cycles of big bangs,big crunches,many scientists have the same conclusion,its a straw man arguement to simply say there is intelligent design without explaining who or what created the intelligent designer,you know very little about islam,as i said its sabian influenced
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Actually, God being more complex than nature is nothing more than assumption, that somehow God is mechanical and pushed through time in a mechanical way just like we are. The fundamental mistake of superimposing our experience of things on everything else.
The universe is cause and effect based, even if I were to suppose looped time, I cannot eliminate infinite regression and still respect unitarity which guarantees one future and one past to each state.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb nature is more complex than your muhammadian allah,nature proved to be superior during 1941 kaaba flood
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb lol you are a blond haired muslim,i bet your mom was white christian and your dad an arab muslim,its a well known phenomena that muslim men go for white girls,especially if they are easy meat,then they get a european visa and breed more jihadis,its a win,win,win for the muslims,how is your mom?i bet she is a very unhappy woman now,but its too late for her already
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Actually, they are both western christians, the only thing you actually proved with this is your bigotry.
Don't bet on the lottery today. That's all I have left to say.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb it is not bigotry,its a well known fact that muslim men prefer non muslim women,also muslim women are not allowed to marry non muslim men,this is how islam spreads,if what you say is true then i know your parents most feel really bad that you have joined the enemy of european civilization,sura 5:51 and sura 9:29 goes to show me that you have contempt for your own parents
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Please state where you get this data from, instead of pulling this out of where you pull the rest.
And again speculation has led you wrong, since islam shows me to respect my parents and if they need to go to their places of worship, I take them, but I do not pray with them.
You're trend of failing assumptions should eventually lead you to the conclusion that if the hypothesis does not fit the practical, the hypothesis is wrong.
Honestly...
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb what data do you need?also your quran commands you to disown family members if they are unbelievers,so enough of your lies,unlike you i have read the quran,even though it said quite clearly it was complete in sura 5:3 i still read all of the other lies in it too,then i binned it as a book of hate speech and islamic domination,muhammad done it all for 1/5 of warbooty and virgin young girls,i know blondes are dumb,but i never thought they would be dumb enough to become a muslim
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
I have read the Qur'an and I've given lectures on Qur'anic interpretation at my own university.
I don't think I need you coming here with not academic merit in the matter, not Islamic studies trying to pose as some sort of Islamic scholar who doesn't even understand arabic to interpret it.
You base yourself of a translation.
It's ok, if it makes you feel better, I'll let you ramble onwards in your belief that somehow a muslim must have some magical incoherent faith .
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb Sura 37:6-7 (Those Who Set The Ranks /Drawn Up In Ranks) "We have indeed decked the lower heaven with beauty (in) the stars, - (For beauty) and for guard against all obstinate rebellious evil spirits," Sura 67:5 (The Sovereignty /Control) "And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven with Lamps, and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones …"
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
67:5-And We have certainly beautified the nearest heaven with stars and have made [from] them what is thrown at the devils and have prepared for them the punishment of the Blaze.
The lowest heaven according to the description of the universe is taken as the Observable universe, what we can see.
When said that the moon is amidst the heavens, it still fits within the 1st heaven.
Specially when understanding the arabic.
Notice the connotations between yours and my 67:5.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
I don't even argue intelligent design, evolution doesn't do away with anything, it's a by product of the universe's laws. It's how our bodies came in to being. I'd say it says nothing about God, but it actually confirms what the Qur'an says as "The subtle", "The evolver".
The argument of previous cultures is pointless if the source of some of the customs is the same God, and muslims know that, you're introducing nothing new here... I don't think you understand that.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb according to islam,quran and authentic hadith,the first man adam was made from mud and was 30 meters tall,this would make him taller than the largest known dinosaurs,where are the fossils of these giants?where is your evidence?maybe because they were made out of mus they left no physical proof,do you really think we came from the incestous children of adam and eve?,its no wonder why you muslims do not make great contributions to modern science
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
According to Islam, there is not 1 creation, there is a creation of man in Jannah, which isn't these heavens.
And there is the creation by stages in this universe. The whole brought down story... do you think we expected some sort of UFOs to come drop us off and the rest of the creatures?
My astrophysics professor said very well, there are two types of people who like to speculate, he who knows very little, and he who knows a lot, your constant misses, show you fit the former
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb i am the one that uses facts,reason and logic,you are the one that believes in supersticious fairytales,the quran says that stars are for firing missiles at mischiefous jinn LOL,it also says that the world was created like a carpet spread out and that the sun sets into a murky pool in the west,LOL crazy assed muslims,i can understand muhaamad in the 7th century believing his own nonsense,but dude,c'mon you need to wise up eh?
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Btw you are using nothing more than self-satisfactory interpretation without taking in to account the actual concepts and connotations of the words in their original language.
(a) Bringing up as an argument Djinn which neither prove or disprove anything.
(b) It was well known the spherical nature of the Earth, when speaking of spread out as a carpet, the connotations imply a safe guarding from a dirty/improper surface.
(c)Argument from ridicule is childish, not logical.
Wise up.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb listen pal you are just a brainwashed rock worshipper,where is your feedback to me about the sabian religion?,don't you think that its much more of a coincidence that islamic rituals are ripped from the older sabian religion?,even the pagan meccans called muhammad a sabian,lets take the sabian ritual of praying 5 times daily,muhammad made the self acclaimed night journey through 7 heavens on the back of a flying donkey(buraq) in order to meet allah in order to arrange prayer times
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb allah demanded 50 prayers daily from the muslims,,however muhammad with the help of moses got a remission from 50 to 5,its seems your allah was open to persuasion by mere prophets,what an incompetent fairytale God to believe in and you call me childish LOL
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb you seem to ignore the many hadiths that involve demonic jinn,sura 7:179 says allah has created many men and jinn for hell,many hadiths say that invisible magical jinn stand on eachothers shoulders in order to eavesdrop on islamic heaven,where they tell lies to eachother as they pass down what they hear,so allah get stars to fire missiles at this jinn,whats the point of doing this if they are getting misinformation from eachother anyway?
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb stupid crazy childish fairytale anf you claim to be a student LOL,also muhammad did think the world was flat like a carpet spread out,he also claims mountains were like pegs firm and unmovable,which is a lie because teutonic plate movement creates mountains,the quran says the sun "sets" in a particular place in the west(the sun never sets on a global earth),the quran also says it rises in the deserts of the east
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@Jessewb The quran demands all muslims to face the kaaba during prayer(impossible on a global earth),how does someone face mecca if they are on the otherside of the earth?basically they will have to bow to where their feet are posistioned,it is easy to ridicule your muhammadism,i suspect you are a pedophile,afterall islam does allow child marriage and command the rape of female captives,so maybe you have sexually perverse motives for your beliefs
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
The otherside of the Earth is in the center of The Pacific. Anywhere you are you can face Mecca. I don't see the issue, but besides that, you don't even seem to understand why we face Mecca.
Pedophile? Complain to nature, but oh wait.. nature doesn't give a fuck about human law, and how humans decide maturity based of how many times you went around the sun rather than when nature says a body is ready for pregnancy.
It's cold.. yes, but it's the truth nonetheless.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb nature does not care for islams most sacred grounds,they were flooded in rain and sewer waters in 1941,nature also cares not for muhammad who died a slow and painful death after consumning the poision at khaybar,maybe he forgot to drink the camels urine as medicine LOL,read your hadiths you indoctrinated clown
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving We don't really have such a thing as "sacred grounds", it's why we basically pray from anywhere in the world. Makkah is considered a holy place to visit, yes, but it's not like.. oooo, nothing can happen to it :O. Do You even know how many times the Kabbah has even changed shape.
But Mohammad(pbuh) did not die from poisoning, he died with his head on Aisha's lap.
Who feeds you this nonsense? Like, did you even bother to check with actual historians?
Oh well..
Jessewb 9 months ago
@Jessewb muhammad did die from the effects of the poision at khaybar,read your bukhari hadiths and stop telling lies,it is clear i know more about islam than you do,thats why i do not worship a rock
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Do you need me to recite to you the whole Qur'an stating how the Qur'an equates men with women, saying "For the believing men and the believing women." and "Men and women are as garments for each other".
Do you even understand the Tafsir of 4:34, did you read the hadith on what Mohammad(SAW) said.
You understand my religion as much as a dog understands Calculus.
If you had even read sura 112, you'd see how idiotic the rock claim is.
I can't keep entertaining you...
Peace.
Jessewb 9 months ago
@Jessewb sura 2:223 and sura 4:34 are quite clear that women are slaves to their male masters,the hadiths are even more antiwoman,in islamic countries today women cannot be leaders,judges and their word is only worth half a mans,go read the hadiths that say a woman is deficient in intelligence,in saudia arabia women cannot even drive cars,however western women can be presidents,judges and were even driving cars,flying aeroplanes and going to outter space before muslim men,thats why you hate them
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
@Jessewb i certainly know more about islam than you do pal,muhammad choked on the poision at khaybar and died a slow and painful death as a result,even angel gabriel prayed over him in an effort to heal him,but failed,read your hadiths,read about the sabians,look at the photographs of 1941 kaaba flood,i even read scientific tests on zam zam water that say it has dangerously high levels of arsenic,where is your muhammadian allah?
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Dangerous levels are arsenic?! ZamZam water has most calcium and magnesium, with some fluoride, both Labs in Europe and Arabia confirm it's drinkable water. Are you ok..."pal"?
This is a pure waste of my time...
You go spread around whatever it is you enjoy saying. I can't be bothered wasting my time on nonsense, I gave you a fair enough quantity of attention.
Assalamu Alaykum.
Jessewb 9 months ago
@Jessewb BBC world service says that your holy water is poisionous,so go on drink some,don't blame me if you get poorly,it is you that is wasting my time with your childish beliefs in muhammadism,i bet you also believe he flew to heaven on the back of a winged donkey(buraq) on his self proclaimed night journey where he with moses help outsmarted allah and got a remission of prayer times from 50 to 5 LOL
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
@Jessewb grow up idiot,its no wonder why so many of you do suicide bombings,its because you realize you are idiots and cannot live with the shame and embarrassment that you have believed in such nonsense for most of your metally challenged lifes
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
@DuckingNDiving no dumb ass your wrong
CHRISTIANABUSED 5 months ago
@CHRISTIANABUSED you are wrong,i have a video on my channel that proves that muhammads allah tells lies in the quran
IRISHINFIDEL 5 months ago
@IRISHINFIDEL yeah I'm sure you have videos but I don't believe lies and non sense.
CHRISTIANABUSED 5 months ago
@CHRISTIANABUSED yes you do,you believe in the quran don't you?
IRISHINFIDEL 5 months ago
@CHRISTIANABUSED you are wrong pedo mo was not an illiterate,go read the authenttic hadiths of the pen
DuckingNDiving 5 months ago
@CHRISTIANABUSED you are wrong pedo mo was not an illiterate,go read the authenttic hadiths of the pen
DuckingNDiving 5 months ago
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CHRISTIANABUSED 5 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Your off your head buddy, you really think that you know, but you know shit all.
hudfadz 4 months ago
@hudfadz go talk to an ant (sura 27:18),its you muslims that are crazy
DuckingNDiving 4 months ago
@DuckingNDiving muhamad was raised by a christian clergy whom he killed afterwards and tossed in a dam which till this current day muslims throw stones in believing the devil lurkes there..christians priests and bishops were amongst the highest educated people and possibly the only people whom knew how to read and write properly.. its highly unlikely muhamad was illiterate how ever its added for its aesthetic appeall as offcourse its claimed the quran was recited and never written ..
nabuchiznasar 3 months ago
@nabuchiznasar the bukhari hadiths of the pen and paper prove that pedo mo could write,at least near the point of his death,he even wanted to add more to his quran,however he was stopped by his companions at his bedside,because sura 5:3 clearly says that the quran was complete,muhammad was the sole author of his hate filled book,which was not properly compiled until caliph uthmans reign 20 yrs after mo's death,all the other versions were burnt at this time
IRISHINFIDEL 3 months ago
@IRISHINFIDEL Where is your evidence for your claim that "Salahuddin killed way more Muslims than the Crusaders did"?? A claim not even made by Salahuddin's biggest enemies!! Why are you jumping from topic to topic. Where is your evidence???
123kimbo123 2 months ago
@123kimbo123 here is your evidence,bukhari Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O
'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this
time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."now read sura 69:44-46
IRISHINFIDEL 2 months ago
@IRISHINFIDEL Still waiting.... evidence please that "Salahuddin killed way more Muslims than the Crusaders did" LOOOOOL
123kimbo123 2 months ago
@Jessewb as i said LA ILAHA ILL ALLAH and praying 5 times daily is from the SABIAN religion,try and prove me wrong,historical facts are on my side and rock worshipping is all you got pal,so carry on with your madness,europe will never be islamified into such a retarded culture
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
@DuckingNDiving lolz we muslims dont worship the "rock" as you say it. instead, it is the central point of concentration for all muslims when we engage in prayer. The "rock" doesnt carry special powers nor are we idol worshippers. and praying 5 times a day were instructions given to muslims from God through the prophet during al isra al miraj.
saifMSK 8 months ago
@saifMSK why don't you look at photographs of the 1941 kaaba flood,then you will see how the true God of the heavens humilated your muhammadian allahs most sacred grounds and please don't tell me that pedo mo flew to heaven on a flying donkey(buraq) on his much fabled night journey to outsmart allah and get a remission from 50 prayers daily to 5,we all know that pedo mo copied the sabians,they pray 5 times daily and perform abultion,salat,fasting for 30 days,lunar calender etc,pedo mo is a liar
DuckingNDiving 8 months ago
@saifMSK satan leads you astray sura 14:4
DuckingNDiving 8 months ago
@Jessewb as a portugese you should be more interested in the miracle of the sun in 1917 fatima portugal than what happened during 7th century arabia,at least in fatima there were witnessess,unlike muhammad in the cave getting apparitions that he originally claimed were satanic
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Oh don't give me this rape business, honestly, how much of an imbecile do you need to make of yourself contradicting basic principle of freedom in Islam to someone who's read his holy book and studied not only the narrations, but also common interpretation, aside from actually having gone through the arabic.
It's a lot worse when you dance around people who know than people who don't. Honestly... how some people can do this is beyond me.. I'd be ashamed.
Jessewb 10 months ago
@Jessewb ok why do you not explain the rape suras to me?afterall the quran is open to interpretion,also why are women to be treated like fields to men and can be entered in any way a man chooses,also why is it permissable to beat up women if they do not obey their male masters?i can see how islam appeals to you,i think you want to beat women and marry child girls foe pedophilic sex,why else would someone worship a rock unless they had uncontrollable sexual deviant urges
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
The Qur'an states that to interpret it, you must interpret as a whole.
About the "women as fields" nonsense, have you ever heard of "Mother Earth", the similitude comes from the fact that women are the ones from which bloom the seeds of life. If you weren't so blinded by your hate, it'd be easy.
There is no literal beating of wives, did you read the hadith and tafseer? Obviously not!
The more I hear from you, the more I see you know nothing about Islam.
Jessewb 9 months ago
@Jessewb you are the liar sura 2:223 and sura 4:34 are quite clear about how women are like cattle for men and can be beaten by their male masters
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
@Jessewb you muslims do worship a rock,bowing to mecca is what the pagan arabs did,you also go to a hajj to kiss/lick the kaaba or run around it pointing at it like mad men
DuckingNDiving 9 months ago
@DuckingNDiving The kaaba was build by Abraham , and you must not tell us that we worship a rock and act like you know it all . first get some knowledge about islam than give a clear comment, because what you say only proves how dumb you are .!!!
aziz79 9 months ago
@DuckingNDiving
Furthermore, worship a rock?
While on the topic of rocks, try and come out from under the one you're hiding and see what we really worship.
Honestly... Where do people get this crap from.
Jessewb 9 months ago
@Jessewb if you can find evidence that i am spreading falsehoods then come back with your own evidence,salam
DuckingNDiving 10 months ago
Secondly she says that everyone doesn't have to be Muslim and if Allah willed everyone would have been, which is true, here Allah is addressing the notion of free will and human inclination, had Allah made everyone submit to his will (Islam) then it wouldn't be possible to judge who is the most deserving and rightious.
Whether you want to be Muslim is up to you, find out about Islam yourself from reputable sources, after all the question of hellfire and paradise is at question.
katalkhair 2 years ago
Muslims havent fallen into any trap and its not ego, she is right in quoting that "there is no compulsion in religeon" which is true, but what she wrongly concludes at the beginning of her speech and misinterprets is that the Quran confirms what little of Gods words is in the former scriptures and CORRECTS what wrong, if she truely has read the whole of the Quran she would know this and know its not ego at all.
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