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  • hey, s-something just pop-up in my head, i-i-it´s not a point of view nor a "they must stop fighting" statement, well w-what i want to say, no, to ask is...why? why does kaguya fight mokou? it doesn´t make sense, and before any of you say anything, let me tell you we´ve never, NEVER HEARD, READ OR KNOWN OF ANY REASON FOR KAGUYA TO DO IT.

    It´s...just...that...she has no reason, and it can´t be self-defence, because we know kaguya sometimes is the one that attacks first, so...why? think about it

  • @sonofrose Well you know why Mokou fights, So I think it's really just to get Mokou mad, or sometimes self-defence

  • @AnimeKid121212 yeah...that doesn´t convince me, Kaguya is not exactly ms. good deeds but, that just doesn´t sound like it

    *sigh* this is going to cost me lots of sleepless nights

  • @sonofrose No, she pretty much screwed Mokou over so she's just defending herself, do you know how painful it is to burn to death? And besides, wouldn't you want to kill your arch enemy of past, present, and future? And she doesn't run as she initiates the fight sometimes, and P.S you'll be bored with nothing to do for eternity and having no one else to talk to. And P.S It feels good to know you won against your enemy.

  • @sonofrose Kaguya fights Mokou because Mokou is always trying to kill her over and over as both can revive and reincarnate due to the Horai elixir they both took.

    History: Kaguya refused to marry Mokou's father which pretty much screws over Mokou's entie life from there on and decides to take revenge and takes a horai elixir. She becomes immortal, and on the same level as Kaguya. However, she regrets it as everyone she loves dies. So she dedicates herself to killing Mokou.-Touhou

  • @tankOdrum2 P.S by Mokou I meant Kaguya at the very end and by everyone dying I mean out living them by IDK....an eternity.

  • @tankOdrum2 no, no, sorry but i, i just don´t think something like that it´s the reason, and besides i-haha-i kinda screw up my question what i meant was that kaguya doesn´t have a reason to hate Mokou, nor a grudge nor something like that so it doesn´t make sense that she fight with her on a near daily basis.

    again sorry, i´m probably getting into lots of peoples nerves by now.

    oh and when you write more than one ps it´s ps then pss and psss and just keep going like that.

  • @sonofrose Let me make it simple then. She's an immortal with a mind of a child, and what does a child do with an eternity? Gets Bored, so what does she play? Danmaku. The only one who is equal to her? Mokou. So they fight even though it will be a draw.

    Second reason: What do you do with assasins? Kill them. Is Mokou a assasin even though self proclaimed? yes. So what do you do? You defend yourself from Mokou's constant attacks.

    Third: Because this is F***king Gensokyo.

  • @tankOdrum2 What do you do in Gensokyo. You play Danmaku with a vampire trapped in a basement for 496 years, fight a maid who can control time, a demon who could eat your history if she chose to, a slightly insane mage, a broke shrine maiden, an embodiment of a phoenix, another shrine maiden and her gods, and a scientist who goes into Gensokyo to prove magic exists, and much more.

    Gensokyo: You don't need a reason to play Danmaku. Flandre proved it.

  • @tankOdrum2 hehe, yeah,you might be right and again sorry if i got into your nerves

  • @sonofrose Because Moukou is an earthling who dares accuse a Lunarian Princess of wrongdoing. And as much as Kaguya has come to like living in Gensokyo, the idea that a human (and an albino at that) might hold the moral high ground and have a legitimate grudge against her must drive her batshit insane.

  • @NutNapalm erhm,,,you know, i-i don`t think there is any difference between lunarians and earthlings, i mean the first lunarians emigrated from earth so...um...yeah...they´re...the­y´re both are human, and since she was exiled to earth her royal status is no more, and she was raised by an earthling bamboo cutter whom she is truly grateful and all that so...yeah...and another thing, i gave up after my last comment when tankOdrum2 suddenly changed the subject to danmaku fights and not death fights.

  • Endless nightmare: Battle of Centuries or

    War of eternity: Vengeance

  • Sakuya, would you kindly separate those two before they trash all of gensokyo!?

  • ah genial, hasta sus temas estan peleando

  • Eternal Hatred ~ Taketori Monogatari

  • Eternal Strife ~ An Endless Rivalry

    That sounds like a good title.

  • I have a question, how is it possible for them to stand together without trying to kill each other?

  • @tankOdrum2 Fanart. And the level at which they despise each other in fandom...varies. A =lot=.

  • @tankOdrum2 They just woke up.

  • I don't know alot about Touhou, so could somebody PLEASE tell me why these two are rivals?

  • @KooHooP Hmm, lol I'm not sure where to start but I will try.

    Kaguya, long black hair moon princess is the lady everyone on Earth wants to marry. Mokou's father being one of them. Kaguya has five "impossible" requests that whoever completes all of them she will marry. Mokou's father I guess died from attempting it and then Mokou hates Kaguya so much. They both got ahold of the Hourai Elixer(this thing that gives one eternal youth) so now they are both immortals and sworn enemies.

  • @tetrahydrocannibiful

    The bitter irony of it, is that if Mokou's father had completed the requests, Mokou would be calling Kaguya "Mom"...

  • @zebrin truly horrific.

  • @zebrin 0_0

  • @zebrin lol i posted these on D.A

  • @tetrahydrocannibiful THANK YOU!

  • @KooHooP Sorry for the late reply, it's like this, Kaguya (brunette) rejected Mokou's father marriage proposal in a way that was deemed humiliating and really hurt him (some variations include him committing suicide). Mokou vowed to kill her in revenge, which Kaguya found hilarious since she's cursed with immortality. And because she's a royal bitch, she decided to "share" her curse of immortality with Mokou, They have been mauling each other pointlessly ever since.

  • @rgzdev nope, the elixir was going to be destroyed but mokou wanted to get her family honor back, even if she'd have to spend her whole life on it, so she stole the elixir and ran away when no one was looking . then she drank the elixir and became immortal.

  • best song in mystical chain by far <3

  • the unwanted daughter and the abandoned daughter.

    unwanted, because that´s what she is a bastard child that never had love, she is using the vengeance as a excuse for trying to win the love of someone that even forgot she existed.

    Abandoned, because she could have been forgiven, with the "brain of the moon" they could have undo what was done, but she was labeled as a monster, executed till the executiones got tired and thrown away to the filthiest place they knew.

  • this video is the only thing linking the Mokou and the Kaguya fans.

    I decided to check the comments, and...well let me say...I LOVE THEM BOTH, no favorite, the "hourai sisters"(borrowing a nickname from a certain manga) are my favorite characters and no one will force me to chose one of them.

    Everyone sees only one side of either of them, some don´t even try to understand the one they hate.

  • @Furystar2 the duel of inmortals, like the final spell card

  • It's like, when two friends wont speak to each other and you have to go back and forth.

    "Tell Kaguya to SHOVE IT UP HER MER-BLANKET ASS!"

    "Tell Mokou to go suck an egg."

    "Ask Kaguya if that's really the best she can come up with."

    "Tell Mokou to STFU, and that she is a whore."

    ...I can so see this happening.

  • Hmm an never ending battle between these 2 -_- too bad you have to end their fight in the game T_T i love this theme..

  • One people went into the fight between the two. And died twice.

  • You know after playing this game myself and making it this far, this is possibly the funniest fight in the game. Because it isn't so much as a boss fight as it's more of you just getting caught in the middle of these two trying to maim each other. The attacks aren't even aimed at you either, it's just unfortunate if you get caught in the cross hairs.

  • MP3 plz

  • One of the most Epic battles in Touhou history... and oj, look! We are in the middle of it!

  • It just seems like Mokou and Kaguya are fighting each other in this boss fight.

  • Flight of the Moon ~ Lunatic Immortals

  • Someone NEEDS to do a 15 minute extension of this!

  • @SuperblueShell My thoughts exactly

  • and the epic final of this battle... xD!

  • Mokou's theme needs to appear more in this.

  • My favorite fight.

  • The inmortal ashes of the eternal bamboo burner

  • @Furystar2 Well excuuuuuuuuse me, Princess. >.>

  • I always fight Kaguya

    1. reason - I hate her

    2. reason - I fucking love Mokou

    3. reason - I love how Mokou laughs if you beat Kaguyas ass XD

  • @4everMidna those are excatly the opposite reasons why i hate mokou. XD

  • @ShasuroxMiku

    haha XD

    how can you not love my moko-tan? :P

  • @4everMidna ...I love them both? XD

    Still like Mokou more though.

  • @Furystar2 The Lunar Phoenix?

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  • Reach for the Bamboo, Immortal Lunatic.

  • Anyone else think there's too much of Kaguya's theme in this?

    I mean, don't get me wrong, I love them both, but...

  • long live mokou

  • I'm rooting for Moukou!!!!!  She needs some loving. :(

  • I loved this boss fight...awesome music, awesome battle...just a well done fight.

  • Are the mp3s that you have extended like this one, cuz the originals that I have are like half the length of this, which annoys me quite a bit

  • Flight of the Immortal, Lunatic Bamboo Cutter with a Smoking Problem

  • @Killabunny2 LOL, great name

  • @Killabunny2 THIS NEEDS TO BE THE NEW TITLE.

  • @Killabunny2 meh....you can come up with something better.

  • seriously this song is awesome!!

  • I loved the lvl of this song how you had to fight Kaguya & Moukou while they fight eachother ^_^

  • Aw, no clever tags. But the theme is cool!

  • reach for the bamboo cutter, Immortal Princess

  • I like how they don't even realize you're there.

  • pretty awesome, nice twist of the themes

  • It's like their themes are battling each other as well.

  • @themettking It's also like the characters are fighting each other as you fight them both.

  • @AjiraCtelin1993 They are

  • @koolkid1616 Of course.

  • @themettking Themettking has approved!!!

  • @themettking that wouldn't be surprising

  • @themettking that wouldn't be surprising

  • That picture makes me think of Higurashi...

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  • yay, kaguya is awsome! 8 somesay selfish, but... its the same)

    moukou... she is cool, the first touhou song i ever heard^^... but i think she is just frustrated ¬¬ (Dont kill meee!!!O_O)

  • This game has a freaking epic soundtrack. <3

  • MY TWUK!

  • This was epic.

    Fighting two people who are fighting each other.

    They don't exactly notice you're there, as long as they can kill each other. XD

    A Remilia/Flandre VS You/Another Char. would be cool, too.

  • @twentyfourpurple

    Mystical Chain actually does have Flan/Remi as a later bossfight.

  • @Magni56 I saw that.

    I found it awesome.

  • @twentyfourpurple there´s one of those too

  • Reach for the Princess,Lunatic Smoke

  • 2 of the best songs in IN combined. EPIC WIN!

  • best boss fight in the game no contest

  • I love this battle, especially when you beat Kaguya up and Mokou laughs. *Is a Kaguya hater, and Mokou fan*

  • @sarah1232343 NEET. LOL.

  • @ShadowkingSonic

    Yes, Kaguya am N33T o.e;;

  • @sarah1232343 Yeah.  You know where the joke is from?

  • @ShadowkingSonic

    Eeeh... Nope~ I don't like Kaguya because she's useless,

    So I don't really know anything about her :D

  • @sarah1232343 Well its from the wiki and I myself am neutral

  • @ShadowkingSonic

    Meh, I'm lazy :3

  • @sarah1232343 So do I, although it gets hard when Mokou does her flame kick and Kaguya dodges. Not to mention I also try to kill Youmu and Remilia too.

    *is a Kaguya, Youmu, and Remilia hater, and Mokou, Yuyuko, Flandre fan*

  • @GentlemanAeon777 What do you have against those 3? The others have obvious reasons to be liked but I dont see a reason to hate the others. Why?

  • @ShadowkingSonic First of all

    1. Kaguya is a mega bitch. She drank the Hourai Elixir for selfish reasons and pretty much dishonored many princes whos asked for her hand by forcing them to do an impossible task. She could have just said no and had given a reason.

    2: Youmu is the Sephiroth of Touhou games. I need no other reason.

    3: Remilia, where do I start? She pretty much locked up her OWN sister where Flandre would stay down there for possibly the rest of her life.

  • @GentlemanAeon777 I like them all equally. But you give a good point.

  • @GentlemanAeon777 ...I still love Kaguya though...

  • @GentlemanAeon777 My opinion:

    1- Granted, Kaguya is a selfish bitch.

    2- Treating Youmu as Sephiroth is kinda unfair, just because she wields a katana (not a nodachi) and has white hair. Personality-wise, she's a complete opposite.

    3- Safety measures, since Flandre is far too destructive and mentally unstable to be let out on the loose. Remilia is merely thinking about the safety of everyone in the Scarlet Devil Mansion. Plus, Flandre's free to roam the mansion's corridors, just not go outside.

  • @Jandeku Yeah. Thats what I was going at. Those are reasons we Love them! Yes. I love Kaguya BECAUSE she is a selfish bitch. And Youmu is half ghost, which is awesome! (Danny Phantom anyone?) Just a reference. And even the Wiki AND F**KING ZUN say Remi is just being a good sister/proprieter/whatever. And also, Im pretty sure Flan is periodically allowd outside, with supervision, at around midnight or so (forget what she said in the interview) Also, she has no problem with being locked.

  • Wuwuwuwait. How the hell is Youmu the Sephiroth of Touhou? There are almost no similarities between them.

  • @gyppygirl2021 She is F**KING HARD to kill.

  • @gyppygirl2021 who are you talking to ?

  • @Rennnix GentlemanAeon777.

  • @GentlemanAeon777 No, Reimu in IN is....

  • @gyppygirl2021

    No charisma.

    Has a sword.

    Etc.

  • Youmu has something that Sephiroth doesn't.

    AWESOME.

  • @gyppygirl2021 No, a ghost half that chases her around and helps her kick arse

  • I still say she's awesome and Seph isn't :P

  • @GentlemanAeon777 Kaguya is based of f of the princes in The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter, where the princes didn't want to be married, because she knew that the lunarians would come looking for her. On the other hand, if that didn't happen we probably wouldn't have Mokou so...

  • Reach for the Immortal Lunatic Princess

    Bamboo Cutter's Immortal Smoke

  • hm.... Reach for the Bamboo Cutter, Immortal Princess?

  • Reach for the princess, Immortal Lunatic

  • えーりん えーりん

  • i thought they hated each other?

  • @shymyn Yup, they are. In "Mystical Chain". You went right into their fight, and fight them. X3

  • @shymyn They fight each other while in their "invincible" status. The attacks usually miss and end up hurting you. And they laugh while you beat the other one up

  • Hmm Someone missed the like button.... w/e I love this theme =w=

  • sence when did mokou have a tie? have i just not noticed it?

  • can i get the mp3 for this plz

  • You can open .bgm files with vlc player

    in Resource\Bgm

    "02_2.bgm" The beginning of the song

    "02_2b.bgm" The song part is repeated

    These are the files for Kaguya's and Mokou's Battle Theme. Hope I could help.

  • This remix is even better than the original songs split up

  • Lunatic Phoeinx

  • You know...in this picture they look like they can get along! but...don't judge a book by its cover~~ ._.

    Most fav song out of the game~~~!!!!

  • @Darkside297 Mokou probably doesn't know Kaguya is behind her...and Kaguya is preparing to backstab her.......

  • The ending of the battle was just funny ^^

  • best boss battle evar!!!!! epic song mixed with epic fight = awesomeness!

  • By far, the most epic match in the demo...not that it's saying much....

  • Indeed. Fighting two bosses fighting each other. Can anything ever be more awesome than that?

    Most likely a lot of things...

  • How about cute vampire siblings playing around with you?

  • Hm... I still find the Kaguya vs Mokou battle more epic.

  • Vampires or Immortals, take your pick. XD

  • Both types fighint eachother and your fighting all of them.

    There would be massive chaos as there would be four bossess at once

    Epic enough, or would you want six meaning Reimu and Sanae, so it would be Vampires, Immortals, and Priestessess.

    Now is it epic enough for you?

  • Thinking about it, a Reimu/Sanae boss would've been awesome and kind of fit....no wait, Reimu/Yukari....better yet, all 3 Yakumo members, with Chen just being a little distraction running around chasing butterflies or something.

  • Yeah, or a boss royal with Reimu,Yukarri,Ran,Chen,Suika, and Yuka taking turns trying to kill you. That way you have a shrine maiden,an oni,two shikigami,a sage,and that strongest youkai in power.

  • @GeneralRatKingLord Now that is one overkill! Man! I think only those who have the reflexes and strength can dish it out.

  • @Archzenom I know what you mean. All three yakumo residents and Reimu fighting you one moment, then they switch to Yuka and Suika, finally when both teams are at half their lifebars they turn the battle to an all out brawl. And it's all on HELL MODE!!!

  • @GeneralRatKingLord Gracias! Indeed! can't even beat even one of them. Anyone else who joins the bosses to the ring can turn you and your heroines into a pulp in no time. Oh man! Just can't bear that one, even Yakumo is too much to be asked as one of the many Touhou gameplay videos had. It's beyond Lunatic, it's HELL MODE TO THE EXTREME!!!

  • @Archzenom Hell mode to the extreme!!! That's the level beyond hell mode which is the level beyond lunatic! It's the touhou apocalypse of Gensokyo. Holy shi- *beep**beep**beep* What the? O_O WHAT THE FFFUUUU_ boom

    Flandre Maniacally in the background

    Remilia:Now, now, no spoiling.

  • @GeneralRatKingLord I know that because I've seen the sadistic Scarlet sisters wherein either of them gave a bloody nightmare to the users uploading their saved videos to YT. YEESH! Even they are too harsh, how much more is Yukari Yakumo alone? She's probably TvTrope's Beyond the Impossible incarnation. She is one of those hard foes to beat as what I've seen in those videos. GRR! HMttE (Hell Mode to the EXTREME!) Good gracious! How about ALL VS YOU? Thats an ULTIMATE HMttE to the nth level.

  • @Archzenom Indeed, Apocalyptic Armaceddan Mode (AAM). But wait, EVERYONE!?!? That's OVEERRR OOOONNNNEEE HHHUUUUNNNDDDRRRREEEEEDDD characters.XD

  • @GeneralRatKingLord Yup! That is already the point where the player is getting the predicament of death in just 1 second, period.

  • @arashi618 fuck ya! x3

  • @Nesaru If it were me... I'd speed up the battle, make it a horizontal scrolling from right to left... make it so you have to input precise arrow key commands to land special hits... and try to put in music more epic than this... that last one might take a few years.

  • @Nesaru That would be a damn lot of bullets.

  • @MUGENanaya Yeah it would. Im going blind just thinking about it o.0

  • @Nesaru

    Most likely...

    Nothing.

  • cool!

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