Heavy Fire Conditions In An Attached Garage And House Fire

[Cand0002]

Just a couple of tips here, Big Fire Big water when you have a structure thats well involed pull a couple of 2.5s off the truck the 1 3/4 line aint going to do much, 2nd when you guys go up on the roof to do ventilation make sure you take an ax and sound the roof by tapping the roof to check for week spots, i hate hearing stories of fire fighters falling through roofs because they didn't check for weeks spots, Stay safe guys

[marcelrotgans]

@FyrFyter533 maby he lite those fires and wait a while to call 911 lol

[kodythepimp01]

just as long as all the mutual aid companies do the same thing i dont see a problem with it...

[haloginbar]

not everything has to be done by NFPA standerds

[kawasakikx250ff]

nice fire 

[rdm258]

Gary Fire did a DAM Good Job, as always.

[Downisup100]

First of all, great video! But I feel that a comment should be made on the PPE. Seriously if you don't want to have cancer in 20 years go on air for goodness sake. You're not impressing anyone by "eating smoke". On a lighter note I thought it was funny that guys who weren't even on air were running around with their BA's on. Fighting fire is hard enough, you might as well ditch the BA while doing overhaul. Keep up the good work and stay safe!

[hendricksjd8]

hell yea guys get some

[luckysod04]

looks like a deck gun job

[Hrledood911]

Deck Gun!!!

[wow1045]

been there

[8firekid]

need a bigger hose than that should of pulled a 2in

[mikeUSMC0311]

kicking major ass in the fire dept. means pulling out of the station quickly getting on scene quickly but in a safe manner and o shit there goes my tones

[capthook17745]

A couple of things...First - where were the big lines? big fire=big water It looked like everything was 1 3/4 lines.

Second - I thought you were supposed to cut the vent hole over the fire area. But, if the entire attic space is lit ......

Third - What the h#@& was that man doing on that roof with no SCBA??

Sometimes we have bad days....lets not make them worse.

[drewpers101]

I can disagree with the bigger lines in a fire that is this involved, what are you saving? So to make your water go farther its better to us the 1 3/4 plus its easier to move, Plus i know our dept has alot more 1 3/4 line then bigger line. Thats what i think.

[pyledriver33]

@capthook17745

I agree if I had a solid water source and no victims my first line would have been would have been 2.5. Good job though keep knocknem down boys!!

[tgifridays40]

bc their fire house is probably 25 miles away from civilization and the house burns down by the time they get there. nobodys fault. keep up the good work guys!

[rvpKellz]

haha...what sarcasm

[mabas21]

Dry wood, paper insulation, a lot of gasoline, I really don't know. More fire here in three years than I have seen in my whole life though. Insanity

[fireguye4]

@mabas21 can you say BAD economy? nice job here though. you guys are very aggressive

[mabas21]

@ngfd209 Seriously, are you retarded?

[lcfirefighter3]

if the horns are for water how do u know when its time to evacuate? just wondering

[mabas21]

Three rapid blasts is for water, four long blasts is for evacuation. Good question though, thanks for the comment

[kodythepimp01]

@mabas21 i thought three blasts are for evac... i thought that was an NFPA standard

[mabas21]

@kodythepimp01 Gary does 4 long solid blasts for evac and 3-4 rapid blasts for water. They don't do it by NFPA standards

[CTFD13]

@kodythepimp01 you'll come to learn that NFPA stands for "Not For Practical Applications". lots of NFPA standards are pretty dumb if you look at it from the front lines.

[ausdean3184]

i cannot believe that those guys are on the roof look at the smoke coming form the tiles and around the gutter its telling u that the roof cavity is on fire so easy to full through straight into the fire below but different country different tatics does againts all my training

[UtahMike41]

The fire in the garage was really stubborn. And those firefighters on the roof looked like they were cutting it rather close!

It looks like the firefighters did more damage to the house than the fire itself. I'm joking of course. Good job guys! Glad everyone was safe.

[pjthedj64]

I am glad everyone made it out ok and the Firefighters too.  I was getting concerned when I heard the evacuation horn on the truck go off and there were firefighters on the roof. Thanks for sharing!

[mabas21]

Everyone was o.k. The three horn blasts actually means water is coming, i.e. the hydrant is tapped. It did get a little nerve racking there on that roof, even for me! Thanks for the comment

[zip992]

Freakin Safety Sallys, we are just doin what we can with what we have. We must be doin something right, rarely do we injure firefighters, and we don't make parkin lots often !! Its different here than the rest of the world, as far as what we have, trust me!! Not braggin, just stating facts, over 7000 fire calls a year, not including EMS runs in 56 sq. miles. Average 500 working structure fires per year!! Again, must be doin somethin right !!

[mabas21]

I could not agree more and try to stick-up as much as humanly possible. Have to remember, there are a lot of people watching these videos who only see 2-3 fires a year and have the equipment they need. Oh, saw won't cut, buy a case of blades. What Engine 9 leaks, fix the seal now. If they only knew how it was. You already know how I feel, and stand by you guys 110%. May see you tonight, but not looking good. Stay safe Squad 2

[nickelaz]

Oh okay!

Man certainly did not look like a 2 1/2 stream...but I suppose it was dark and sort of skewd.

I forgot the PPE thing too:P buddy jump on the roof with no BA.

Stay Safe and excellent video!

[mabas21]

I agree, thought it was a trash line at first, lol. Thanks for the comment

[nickelaz]

1. Should attack from the unburned side

2. use a 2 1/2 inch line with that amount of fire, or 3 inch

3. Mounting the roof at that point provided no benefit, and actually aiding in the advancement of the fire.

4. When the horn goes off, get out or off the roof...do not keep working!

This could have been really bad!

[mabas21]

I asked and a 2.5 was used, in Gary the horn signifies water is on it's way, The roof I would have avoided, and the garage didn't have an unburned side. This was the only way they could actually attack the fire. The fire from the garage extended to the house causing the heavy fire conditions throughout.

[alexandermakrianis]

Holy crap, I can't believe soemone was home and made it out. They should have hit it with a master stream. Did they ever find the cause?

[mabas21]

The fire started in the garage and an explosion got the homeowner moving, Engine 12 which was first on scene had a little wait for assistance so they pulled the line hoping to get the fire in check. GFD is quite aggressive and they like to get in there. As far as I know, the cause was still under investigation. Sorry for the delay in the reply and thanks for the comment

[thehassell2]

good luck gary u guys deserve the best

[elementfreak1344]

hey mabas21, was there a car in the garage?

[mabas21]

hi thanks ed

[mabas21]

Yes there was, that thing was toast

[gfdsta1]

Thanks for your support; our union is trying their best. I think some things going to give soon I hope for the better.

[mabas21]

God I hope so, I want significant changes just as much as you guys. It would kill me if someone got hurt because of under staffing. The incident with Friday scared the shit out of me. If I can do anything for you guys I am always here and will do what I can

[smokejoker951]

i really would not say there were kicking ass...if they were using there head..they would have pulled a 2 1/2 or portable deck gun and got a good knock down...not with an interior 1/12 hand line like they are doing ! not to smart !

[bookaville]

gary does there damn best in fighting fires. i'm living proof sincerly, former gary resident from '74 to 2000. thanks guys for hard workmanship, G.F.D. rocks for life!!!!

[mabas21]

To 200chief, you are blocked and can not post to my videos any longer. And you are wrong asshole, I am 32 and volunteered for 7 of them. So just as I though, you have to be right or so you think. Good day

[GTRider245]

Just what would I learn that is so great if I did indeed "come to Gary and fight a Gary fire"? I promise you houses burn every day in other places but Gary.

I promise that 99% of veiwers would translate 2 sets of 4 horn blasts from 2 different trucks as evacuation signals. And you can say what you want, but being on the roof without being on SCBA for this fire was stupid. What was gained?

And as far as risk vs benifit, I'll put life preservation over property preservation EVERY CALL.

[mannythesox]

I must agree, until I read these comments I completely thought those horn blasts were evacuation tones. NOTE, NOTE, NON GARY FD EXPERT SAYING THIS-but it would seem to be more logical to use the radios to ask for water...thats why we have fire ground channels. Plus at a large fire, when you have multiple engines all hitting hydrants as they arrive...how can you be sure its your engineer thats ready for water?

[gfdsta1]

Yes you are correct it would be logical to use the radios for asking for water but when you work in a city that only provides one radio per rig you have to improvise. That is why we use the horn method; every Engine Co in the city has a different signal. It might sound confusing form the observers but we know what were doing. Also, this was not a large incident it was only a single family house fire. They probably used one hydrant maybe two.

[GTRider245]

Sounds like you guys have some interdepartmental issues with policy that are no fault of the guys on the trucks. Thats a shame. It will probably take someone getting killed to bring a change.

[GTRider245]

After reading the latest news on Gary cutting firefighter jobs, I reaffirm this statement more than before. Good luck with what you have guys.

[mannythesox]

after reading you have been staffed with 3 engines and 1 truck for the whole tour, i really wish you luck. wouldnt be there for all the tea in china (no offence)

[gfdsta4]

hay 200chief fuck you

[firetrukfixer]

that comment was directed at fi18re

[gfdsta1]

Well put sq2engr, these guys are the same ones that after the fire was over all they would have is a foundation. Good job with property conservation.

[sq2engr]

to gtrider245 thier was a 2-1/2 pulled on this fire awalk around and a size up. the horns 3 times is for the hydrant man to sent water. So if you don't know how things are done in gary it's wise not to say anyting at all

[fi18re]

As to date 46 LODD in the fire service. Very lucky this fire didn't add to the toll.

RISK VS BENEFIT??

[firetrukfixer]

Do you guys not put your fires out?

[GTRider245]

A few things. Upon the arrival of the first engine, there is no walkaround, no sizeup. They just begin fire attack, with a line that is way undersized for this fire. Pulling the 1 3/4" on this fire was a waste of time and a waste of water. The roof ops without airpacks is bad enough, but staying on the roof after the horns go off is even worse.

[firemike71]

Good video, keep up the good work!

[smoothbore2004]

Wow always somebody that reads all the books and watches all the fire videos he can so he can be the best of the best. But when you really do it for a living sometimes, well all the time its never like it should be. When you get to the point in your career when you can say we average a fire everyday then you will notice what I am talking about. Till then keep those training videos in your favorites and just imagine what it must be like.

[7089540230]

EXCELLENT COMMENT!!!

[7089540230]

now thats a fire!

[manteno]

Great work once again! Reminds me of a fire last year over in Miller, shortly after E-11 was put back in service!

[herndblr]

Great work once again man!!