Nibiru debunked: Part 3: Nibiru should be detectable since 2000!

[JinnyMic]

Stop scaring everybody. In revalation, it states that NO MAN will predict the end lf the world, only God can know.

[Gay4U1979]

While I do not subscribe to the Nibiru end of the world babble, I must say that your videos are BORING.

[sniper71267]

This video proves absolutely nothing to me but everyone can draw their own conclusions. What difference does it make anyway if its real or not. Knowing will only make you worry about something you have no control over. Enjoy life, its very short sometimes and can end in a flash.

[obaeyens]

@sniper71267

"What difference does it make anyway if its real or not"

The difference between someone committing suicide or getting depressed because he thinks this is all true and scared to actually have to live through it.

[sniper71267]

@obaeyens Ok then Ill pretend its not real like you do. Wouldnt want to see a bunch of people kill themselves early now would we. But what about the ones who would not panic? They dont deserve the right to prepare because a bunch of government assholes want to protect their tunnels that run under many homes in the USA and could easily be breached by digging. As long as the retarded greedy rich people survive right? Too late I released the truth and it will be viral soon.

[obaeyens]

@sniper71267 Prepare? Yes you could prepare to have the lawsuits you will get because you wrecked families in promoting this hoax and nothing happened. You could also prepare for the people laughing at you at 22 December 2012 for the next 10 years. The 2012 claims are just impossible.

[sniper71267]

@obaeyens LMFAO what a joke. Like I fear you stupid ass law suits. HAHAHAHA good luck with that one ok.

[Waroftheworlds112]

@sniper71267 Okay fine, fuck the lawsuits. What about having hundreds to thousands of pissed off people wanting yours and everyone else's heads that made this bullshit theory up because someone in their family killed themselves? You think that they would just let you go and live on with their lives? I'd love to see you stand in front of them and laugh and call it a joke. You and everyone who has nothing better to do than make up these ridiculous stories are a waste of life and space.

[sniper71267]

@Waroftheworlds112 I know this video is going to be hard for you to comprehend but please watch it. This is what happens when the funding of a Union organization is cut they spill the beans.

/watch?v=6b2Rzy0wUNA

Now pay particular attention to what is said in the very beginning about the war time effort going on in space against something that is causing the problems on earth and then at 5:27 into the vid. Then tell your scared people to hunt them down as well.

The weak can fuck off.

[Waroftheworlds112]

@sniper71267 Well, I guess you're classified as one of the weak ones. Do you honestly think that every video up on youtube is unedited? Don't you think someone has the skills and know how to make a seamless edit you a video? There isn't a war going on in space, if there is then I'm Jesus Christ. There is nothing causing problems on Earth except Pricks like you who like to start up panic, you know attention whores? You and them can fuck off down into a six foot hole.

[sniper71267]

@Waroftheworlds112 Dude you are a complete idiot and this is exactly what happens when the union dont get their way. They become little snitches and stop doing their work. You see that was a blackmail video from a bunch of union workers who are not getting their way. Either give us our funding or we will spill the beans is what you can call it. Most of the stupid people will not even understand the video but the smart ones do. Now I am an attention whore who does not seek attention.

[sniper71267]

Cont... Now I see you resorted to the name calling because you dont have anything else to destroy the credibility of this video. Wouldnt an attention whore be looking for attention and my anonymity would kind of blow that out of the water as well. Now weak I think not because I have no intentions on killing myself because I am scared. Must kill you that you are not capable of thinking on your own and need orders to do such a thing. Dont blame me because you cant see or think straight.

[Waroftheworlds112]

@sniper71267 I'm not capable of thinking on my own? And how would I be destroying the credibility of this video when I'm also working to debunk this? The only reason I resorted to name calling is because it seems to be the only way to shut people like you up. I can see everything perfectly fine, its lunatics like the people who started this whole Nibiru, Planet X bullshit that cant see straight. Now, how am I weak?

[sniper71267]

@Waroftheworlds112 Never said you are weak you said I was. Name calling will not shut me up. I dont fear much. Noticed a typo in my last comment. Must kill you was suppose to be must tell you. So I never threatened anyone but you would like to see me 6 feet under. Now I proved there is something in space in this video

/watch?v=6b2Rzy0wUNA

Now prove its not NIBIRU. They blatantly said it sometimes brings life to this planet and also responsible for the extinctions on earth.

Im done here.

[Waroftheworlds112]

@sniper71267 Prove its not Nibiru? Okay, Nibiru is ancient Sumatran for Ferry or, Jupiter. Now, has Jupiter moved to the outer reaches of the solar system and gradually made its way back, screwing with the planets orbits? The person who started the Nibiru BS was a SELF-TAUGHT scholar by the name of Zecharia Sitchin, who knew nothing of ancient Sumatran languages. Common sense says that he is the conductor of the BS express. Yeah, there is something out there, its outer fucking space.

[obaeyens]

@sniper71267

"Now weak I think not because I have no intentions on killing myself because I am scared."

How would you react that your little sister or even mother killed herself because they actually thought that this were true? Do you realize that 9 year olds, 13 year olds are scared to death when stumble on these claims? Do you realize that young mums live in fear not to be able to care for their babies any-more?

[sniper71267]

@obaeyens First off you will have to find a Jew that would take the law Suit for free because you cant get blood from a stone and they wont sue anyone if insurance is not involved because they must get their third + court cost. If they did sue me for free it would prove my case 100% because its never been done in history unless the complainant paid for the lawyer up front. Now that everyone has been purposely made broke by the Elite I will not have to worry about that either now will I?

[obaeyens]

@sniper71267

"Now that everyone has been purposely made broke by the Elite I will not have to worry about that either now will I?"

Only if you survive the end of the world.

But why a Jew?

[benskin79]

@sniper71267

Umm... I have seen scads of videos and photos of underground bases, and not a single one of them would be "easily" breached- that's the point of their construction. Doesn't make much sense to spend trillions on a D.U.M.B. if some redneck can rent a backhoe and crash the party. Also, humans can't survive at the extreme depths that would be deep enough to avoid annihilation from a planetary collision, if such depths even exist. 2012= Govt. disinformation, aka Kansas City Shuffle.

[TimingIsEvrytng]

nah this thing will come in a second. like if a truck drives past you. we will get hit by the winds behind it

[obaeyens]

@TimingIsEvrytng

"nah this thing will come in a second. like if a truck drives past you. we will get hit by the winds behind it"

I want to see your math and numbers in your claim.

[obaeyens]

It might come to a surprise but this is really the only orbit I found that has the least influence on any of the planets and might sneak up at earth!

Some claim it will pass between Mars and Jupiter making it less eccentric but that would mean is has a slower speed at it's closest point which means far longer attraction forces on all planets influencing even worse. This orbit is basically a hit- and-run. Planets barely notices that something happened.

[sturgish]

@obaeyens Wow!!!!!! the bottom line sir .... there is no nibiru coming on 2012?

[obaeyens]

@sturgish

"Wow!!!!!! the bottom line sir .... there is no nibiru coming on 2012?"

There might be something coming in the future but it won't be Nibiru and it won't be in the next 20 years and it would be a single event.

[TimingIsEvrytng]

wtf is this. how can u know how fast it goes or how big the cycle is????

[obaeyens]

@TimingIsEvrytng

Well they claim that the orbit is 3600 years.

The rest is just basic maths in order to get an orbit that is as big as 3600 year period.

The mass is estimated between 1 Earth mass and 5 Jupiter Masses, so you have your boundaries that fits physics.

Orbital calculations is pretty simple calculations. The speed and its mass including the mass of the solar system of the object travelling determines the orbit that is all there is to it.

[TimingIsEvrytng]

@obaeyens well sure. i know. but if the cycle is huge then the speed of this thing could be incredible

[obaeyens]

@TimingIsEvrytng

"well sure. i know. but if the cycle is huge then the speed of this thing could be incredible"

Only 42 km/s if it gets as far as Earth. As far as Mars would be even lower.

The thing is that Nibiru influences Earth, and earth influences Nibiru even though it is massive. A mere 0.1 km/s change in Nibiru's speed changes it's orbital period and can actually Nibiru eject it outside the solar system. When I find time I want to calculate these real numbers.

[lzoli18B]

oh, you may like this. It's called the Nemesis theory and was proposed by a team of astronomers in the 80's. They suggested a low mass brown dwarf with a 20 million yr orbit, i think, which would explain all the comets and other debris that erraticaly travel from the Kuiper belt & the Oort cloud to the inner solar system.It has nothing to do with the latest nibiru hysteria, and It's suprising the nibiru fanatics never mention it. It's probably defunct by now, but i thought it might interest you

[obaeyens]

@lzoli18B

I have one Nemesis -Nibiru simulation planned! I did this one a year ago and boy does that orbit s***s really bad!

So far there is no real evidence of a Nemisis. I think it would be noticeable in the wobble of the Sun by now if it were a single mass. There might have been something out there that had passed us but so far no suggestion of an orbiting mass.

[lzoli18B]

thank you uploader. all the astrophysics aside, what most of these nibiru loons lack is common sense and critical thinking. If nibiru has a 3600 orbit and where to strike or come close within 2 years, then where is it? why hasn't any astronomer ever seen it? Oh, I know - It's a giant cover up! Nasa must have altered every telescope on the planet to prevent astronomers from seeing nibiru! otherwise, where the eff is their mistery planet?!

[obaeyens]

@lzoli18B

If you look in this simulation, at 4:32 then you will see the distance from the sun it should be at current date and all dates until 2012. Even if the orbit is not perfect and pointed to another direction the distance should be valid for any orbit. Just look at the numbers table on the row Nibiru 9th column. This number is even nearly independently from the mass.

Right now it should be at 8.4 AU from the sun!

[JUSTuntil2012]

further Nibiru debunkings.....? ::::yawn:::: > southern approach orbit, not on the elliptical..you'll see.....

[obaeyens]

@JUSTuntil2012

This IS an souther approach.

Unless you have another orbit then I will happily create a simulation for that.

This orbit is the only one with the least effect on our planets and could sneak on up on us. yes I did simulate other orbits too.

But give me the orbital elements of your southern orbit.

[JUSTuntil2012]

@obaeyens I mean, dont take my word for it, go look at the MAIN 3 (Google Earth/Sky, WikiSky and WWT) and see what patch of sky ALL 3 have conveniently blacked out, and plot the course as you see fit through a hypothosis. Trust me, I dont want it to be real as much as the next guy, but now there are several things falling into place that simply makes that not possible. Also, check up on SPT...

[obaeyens]

@JUSTuntil2012

Why look at google sky if you just take a pair of binoculars go out and see for yourself that there is nothing out there? You can even hire robotic telescopes all around the world to see for yourself, including Infra red!

[docatomics]

...this program doens't appear to account for the influence on this solar system as a hole, return it from whence it came

~small wounder those little guys crashed into my planet !

[obaeyens]

@docatomics

On the contrary it is taking into account every mass. It is even taking the gravitational forces into account acting on Earth by the other planets. The planets like Earth is not calculated according to some orbital formula like Starry Night or Stellarium would do, but based on the vectorial speeds and vectorial forces.

The influence of the solar system as a whole is only when it is wayyy past Pluto's orbit.