historically this is all wrong.GEORGE ARMSTRONG CUSTER, was born in SOUTHEASTERN OHIO not MICHIGAN .troops he led in the civil war were from OHIO not MICHIGAN. most of the troops during his indian battles were from OHIO..CUSTER like FLYNN was not a noble soldier. he schemed his way to the top to become the youngest general during the civil war. his main objective, wipe out the indian nation. the movie "LITTLE BIG MAN" shows more of the real GEORGE ARMSTRONG CUSTER.
people who like Stones stuff will like anything: at home with the AFI crowd. I shudder at what Stone would consider the greatest films of them all. Stones commentary on Executive Suite for instance is vapid and one cliche copulating with another. O where have all the Polankis gone who could really make movies, pederast he may have been but he knew what he was doing behind a camera. Just ponder what Stone would have done to Chinatown. That's a real nightmare for you.
oliver stone is tough with a historical sensibility???LMAO...Stone is a LIAR..if anyone twisted the facts about history more its Stone..thats one reason Stone's father thought so badly of his son..bet your fathers thought the same of you..manifest destiny and machoism??..LMAO..the battle between europeans and indians is the STORY of MANKIND..every group of people in history has taken turns as either victor or victim..if you hate america so much..move to france..they like whimps like you two..lol
Does anyone really know what happened? Custer being dead, made a perfect scapegoat for his rivals,and enemies? Did Reno, and Benteen use Custer's death to cover up their own failures at The Little Big Horn? Many of Reno, and Benteen's men thought they did. Was Custer's reputation purposely destroyed by the War Department, the Army, and his rivals to cover up their own blunders? Will we ever know the truth?
We know for a fact Custer saved the Union by stopping JEB Stuart cold at Gettysburg.
Matt Zoller Seitz, you should read some historical books. Flynn's scene with the Indians was inspired by an true meeting in 1869. Walsh did not change Custer's personality.
@custerdivision He did leave out Custer being court-martialed for dereliction of duty and his role in the Kidder Massacre and the attack on the encmapment of the peaceful Black Kettle at the Washita River, none of which were to Custer's credit. I like a lot about this movie but making Custer into a hero is not truthful.
Can't argue with your explanations on the technical draw-up of the scenes. But, you are so off on your conjecture regarding Walsh. It's been documented elsewhere, as I remember from taking Historical Perspective film courses in the early 1970's, that Warner Bros was pushing manifest destiny and patriotism getting the movie go'ers ready for eventual war with the nazis by the late 1930's. This was not auterism in action but front office proclamation.
bigre997: "This was not auteurism in action but front office proclamation."
Actually, it was both.
Sure, Hollywood issued a mandate to sell citizens on the rightness of getting involved in WWII, plus other American values that were widely believed to be just, including Manifest Destiny. But the "unacknowledged schizophrenia" of Walsh's approach to Custer is there onscreen, it's characteristic of Walsh throughout his career and it certainly wasn't superimposed on Walsh against his will.
Maybe there was some opinionating by Walsh, but most people at that time looked at Custer as a luckless hero and not the stubborn go-for-the-glory General he turned out to be.
And the action at the Little Big Horn did end up putting the Indians in retreat and defeat.
This is excellent and I recommend to watch this...those who like Raoul Walsh directing, Steven Spielberg, Martin Scorese etc...well done.
nemeckathleen1 1 month ago
historically this is all wrong.GEORGE ARMSTRONG CUSTER, was born in SOUTHEASTERN OHIO not MICHIGAN .troops he led in the civil war were from OHIO not MICHIGAN. most of the troops during his indian battles were from OHIO..CUSTER like FLYNN was not a noble soldier. he schemed his way to the top to become the youngest general during the civil war. his main objective, wipe out the indian nation. the movie "LITTLE BIG MAN" shows more of the real GEORGE ARMSTRONG CUSTER.
801liveable 6 months ago
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topolino2 8 months ago
people who like Stones stuff will like anything: at home with the AFI crowd. I shudder at what Stone would consider the greatest films of them all. Stones commentary on Executive Suite for instance is vapid and one cliche copulating with another. O where have all the Polankis gone who could really make movies, pederast he may have been but he knew what he was doing behind a camera. Just ponder what Stone would have done to Chinatown. That's a real nightmare for you.
doctornoooo 1 year ago
oliver stone is tough with a historical sensibility???LMAO...Stone is a LIAR..if anyone twisted the facts about history more its Stone..thats one reason Stone's father thought so badly of his son..bet your fathers thought the same of you..manifest destiny and machoism??..LMAO..the battle between europeans and indians is the STORY of MANKIND..every group of people in history has taken turns as either victor or victim..if you hate america so much..move to france..they like whimps like you two..lol
SONOFHERO52 3 years ago
Does anyone really know what happened? Custer being dead, made a perfect scapegoat for his rivals,and enemies? Did Reno, and Benteen use Custer's death to cover up their own failures at The Little Big Horn? Many of Reno, and Benteen's men thought they did. Was Custer's reputation purposely destroyed by the War Department, the Army, and his rivals to cover up their own blunders? Will we ever know the truth?
We know for a fact Custer saved the Union by stopping JEB Stuart cold at Gettysburg.
Grimmest117 3 years ago
Matt Zoller Seitz, you should read some historical books. Flynn's scene with the Indians was inspired by an true meeting in 1869. Walsh did not change Custer's personality.
custerdivision 3 years ago
@custerdivision He did leave out Custer being court-martialed for dereliction of duty and his role in the Kidder Massacre and the attack on the encmapment of the peaceful Black Kettle at the Washita River, none of which were to Custer's credit. I like a lot about this movie but making Custer into a hero is not truthful.
44032 7 months ago
Can't argue with your explanations on the technical draw-up of the scenes. But, you are so off on your conjecture regarding Walsh. It's been documented elsewhere, as I remember from taking Historical Perspective film courses in the early 1970's, that Warner Bros was pushing manifest destiny and patriotism getting the movie go'ers ready for eventual war with the nazis by the late 1930's. This was not auterism in action but front office proclamation.
bigred997 3 years ago
bigre997: "This was not auteurism in action but front office proclamation."
Actually, it was both.
Sure, Hollywood issued a mandate to sell citizens on the rightness of getting involved in WWII, plus other American values that were widely believed to be just, including Manifest Destiny. But the "unacknowledged schizophrenia" of Walsh's approach to Custer is there onscreen, it's characteristic of Walsh throughout his career and it certainly wasn't superimposed on Walsh against his will.
insomniacdad 3 years ago
Maybe there was some opinionating by Walsh, but most people at that time looked at Custer as a luckless hero and not the stubborn go-for-the-glory General he turned out to be.
And the action at the Little Big Horn did end up putting the Indians in retreat and defeat.
bigred997 3 years ago
Excellent video and comments, I`d like more about all FLYNN `s films
lilyflynn55 3 years ago
Excellent. More of these, please. The insights on the visuals were quite interesting.
cquincy 3 years ago
thanks - pls give this clip a rating if you will - the sole rating so far was by a troll. thanks.
alsolikelife 3 years ago
i enjoyed this very much
arp717 3 years ago