Eddy Merckx - 1974 Giro d'Italia - 03 Give me water.mpg

[gordenooo9]

i have just made 60 and back on the bike

[Trulyloyale]

Fausto Coppi the best ever , more class than Merckx , out of sprinting Coppi was superior in any other cycling skill . Coppi is the LEGEND of all times cycling , there's no question over it .

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale except the fact that merckx won 525 races and coppi didnt

[Trulyloyale]

@GiantDefy954 which obviously has a relevance only in elementary computation and instead it has none in cycling analysis in itself and in sports valueing .....

Asking help x arithmetic is the usual argument by Merckx fans, probably 'cos they have problems in finding

any else different , but what's even funnier is that it's also the weak and quite pathetic clichè quickly checked on the anglosaxon edition of wikipedia by majority of wasp people who notoriosuly are clueless

[Trulyloyale]

about cycling history and don't have a great knowledge in cycling sport !

Suiting such a bad , partial & crappy logic, then Epons Armstrong should be called the best ever in Tour de France , comfortably kicking ass of Merckx, Coppi, Bartali, Anquetil .....which is more than ridiculous, it's farcial ...!!!

It's widely known and quite recognizable by those who know a bit of cycling thatCoppi technically was weaker than Merckx only in sprinting and x all the rest he was 2 levels upper

[Trulyloyale]

of the Belgian .

Merckx was so lucky in never having even 1 big injury, Coppi instead had to stop x 5 years ( 1940-1945 ) and in meanwhile he got 2 times malaria as soldier in Africa ( the same illness that brought him to death on end of 1959 ), he had 6 bones fracture in his career so he was forced to rest many months in different seasons and he had problems and sorrows in his own life .

Merckx was nicked The Cannibal because he left no victories x his rivals , even in races of little

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale "merckx was lucky in never having even 1 big injury" uh yeh besides the fact that he crashed on the track in 1969 and displaced his pelvis and constantly had to change the height of his saddle when racing because it become to painful to ride,,,,oh yes and he was punched in the stomach on the puy de dome in 1975 losing time to thevent and finishing barely able to breath.... oh and finally HE BROKE HIS CHEEK IN A CRASH in 1975 tour and still carried on. Thats why he was better

[Trulyloyale]

importance, Coppi was just the opposite , known and celebrated to be the emblem of generous and the less unselfish outclass champ so he left his rivals many races of lessere importance of tour stages .

But let's check these stats so beloved by many clueless cycling fans : Merckx 525 wins out of 1800 in 17 years ALL wholy raced and riding vs nobody ( with exception of Gimondi who once in a while had the chance to beat Eddy ) ,

Coppi creator of moder cycling ( let's remember this last too )

[Trulyloyale]

122 wins on road competitions and 88 wins on track different specialties ) out of 666 in 14 ill-fated and unfortunate years : to those who know something of cycling and are not 1way blind fans these stats tell everything and they tell there's no comparison between the greatest and best of all times Coppi one Great Legend in cycling history and " Mr. complot in doping tests " Merckx , just two differewnt planets .

Not my fault if you're a clueless chatter who writes funny and bizarre bs

[Trulyloyale]

and posts asinine comments full of nonsensed statements and pointless idiocies having no idea of cycling .

As x the 1969 injuryon track you're dreaming on , unlike legendary Coppi Eddy Merckx didn't break or crash any bone , that was just a bruise and in any case it was at the end of season and not at start or middle of it as it happened for 6 ( six ) times to Coppi , as for the 1975 injury that didn't allow Merckx to join Tour, well Merckx was at fallin' phase of his career ,

[Trulyloyale]

so if he had partecipated to 1975 Tour , he would have smashed by his rivals as it happened with 1976 Giro when Gimondi beated Merckx fair & square .

So you'd better shut up and close your stupid mouth, 'cos you clearly have no idea of cycling and you're only spelling funny bs and farcical statements making everyone laugh with your stupid comments.

For all that Coppi is the best and the greatest ever in the history and also x him being the greatest climber ever differently from Merckx

[Trulyloyale]

who got his ass repeatly kicked in different seasons by Ocana , Galdos , Baronchelli ...and so on !!

Take this tip : leave cycling to those who know something about and get back to what you're more accustomed

in order not to make a fool of yourself longer , you're typing ridiculous bs and asinine comments with thettitude of a 5 years old little boy ....!!

Omg clueless jackasses and reatrds of web, how typical .....!! ))

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale you spelt retards wrong......

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale At the end of the day it is purely down to opinion. I think Merckx was better because he won more and displayed a dominance that coppi didnt. I respect your opinion so there is no need to get nasty about it, im entitled to my opinion, i agree that coppi was one of the best, but not the best so you dont have to come up with loads of facts about coppi because merckx achieved more and alot of other cyclists consider him the best for example Hinault, Indurain,Armstrong

[Trulyloyale]

@GiantDefy954 " At the end of the day " ( typical wasp way of saying ...) it's purely down to knowledge of cycling just to not make a fool of yourself by pretending to debate about a sport you clearly are embarrassingly clueless about ...!! No matter what a typical british thinks of the greatest cyclist in the history ( obviosuly i'm talking of the ONE legend of cycling Fausto Coppi ) , I've expalined to you enough of the many reasons why the Italian is reputed by majority of people

[Trulyloyale]

REALLY expert of cycling greater and far better than Merckx, not my fault if you not only are a pathetic clueless multinicked troll but also are a poor idiot as you can't understand my good & skilled comments !!

I told to not spell bizarre bs over a subject you have no idea about 'cos you only make people laugh , u dumb : out of Gimondi , in those years Merckx fought vs nobody 'cos Fuentes was only a good climber ( not one of the greatest, you clueless moron , Polydor was a cunt ,

[Trulyloyale]

zoetemelk a bit better than poulydor and more specialized in the one day races ( at least do your searches on junk wiki a little better, you brainless jackass ...) lusi ocana was a very good climber only at Tour and in any case he was not one of greatest ....

No matter how long I can go on and win the debate , YOU put in your empty and wooden minded head that Coppi is the ONE legend of cycling , far superior and greater than Merckx in all skills except sprint and that all the bs of a stupid

[Trulyloyale]

ignorant brit child brain who pretends to spell his idicoies on cycling can't change such a holy truth stated in the HISTORY of cycling !!

Ps : and try harder with your bullshiting stupid comment and your wasp rubbish , try stronger lies 'cos Hinault like ALL french knew Coppi so well and they have always said that Coppi is the greatest cyclist of all times , Hinault on a Giro stage in 1980 was in escape when the road crossed Coppi's mausoleum, he stopped and stayed x 1 min praying in front

[Trulyloyale]

of Coppi's grave . After he won the stage he said in a TV interview he had to honour the memory of Coppi " Il Campionissimo " , the greatest champ in cycling history ( you can check it all in wherever site you want, you pathetic dumbass .....) , the same x the Spanish who have alwasy said Coppi is the greatest cyclist ever and as for Epons Armstrong King of dopped cheaters and shameless cheating clowns, he's a stupid and clueless american, so he's even more ridiculous as cycling "expert"

[Trulyloyale]

than he was when he used to play his role of enhanced pathetic clown in the ONE race he joined on the season in order to minimize any risk to be cuaght positive at doping test , so who cares of the funny bs and clueless idicoies of the worst doped cunt in cycling history ??

And now cut it off, I've shut you and made you look fool enough and you're really annoying me with your trolling stupid comments full of nonsenses and childish bs : i don't care a fucked nothing of the idicoies

[Trulyloyale]

I don't care a fucked nothing of the idiocies of a clueless brit who has as #1 favorite the farcical video on a farcical typical brit doped cunt who was nobody in cycling , Miss Philippa York , once upon a time robert millar , which says enough of your ignorance of cycling and your thiny brain !!

Post more, you retarded troll ....!!

Grow up, you really need it and leave cycling, you're too poor minded to understand something about ....

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale You sound pathetic with your 2000 word replies, trying to justify the reason that you prefer coppi over merckx. I honestly dont give two shits about your opinion your just really a sad person who has to like something different to everyone else because you think it makes you stand out. Why dont you leave cycling you piece of shit, you clearly have know knowledge and right a load of shit thinking that you sound intelligent when you really sound like a little pussy. COPPI WAS A CUNT

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale "Robert Millar was nobody in cycling".... he won multiple stages, climber jerseys and finished on the podium in 3 grand tours and you say hes nobody... (more successful than a pathetic little prick troll called Carlos who thinks he an expert). Your the only one who is a fool, "Luis ocana wasnt one of the greats"- HE WON THE FUCKING TOUR AND VUELTA,- stupid piece of shit. Oh AND COPPI ACTUALLY SAID THAT HE WAS TAKING DRUGS ALOT OF THE TIME so id say hes a doped cunt as well SHITHEAD

[Trulyloyale]

@GiantDefy954 Oh shut up, you clueless jackass, you have no idea of cycling and you're keeping no making everyone laugh with your huge amount of asinine comments, funny bs and ridiculous nonsenses !!

Mr. Philiippa York was a nobody in cycling despite he was a doped cunt but he was too crappy even to win something by fiillin'himself with steroyds and any sort of enahncing substance !!!

Unlike what you dream on like a 7 years old little boy, philippa york NEVER got to podium

[Trulyloyale]

in final classification of Tour and Giro , he only won 3 stages at Tour and got 2nd in Vuelta when he was a doped comedian , at least learn to copy and paste from your wiki, you clueless jackass !!

And Luis Ocana is not one of the greatest of all times , due both x his lacks ( he was really good only as climber ) and x his short palmarés ( he had many troubles in his career and life ) 'cos " HE NEVER WON THE FUCKING TOUR " and the Vuelta is not comparable to Tour de France and Giro ,

[Trulyloyale]

so on at least learn to do your copy&paste from wiki which is all such a clueless and pathetic jackass as you knows of cycling !!

And the ridiculous dumbass are only you, who can't get even one of my correct and skilled " 2000 words " about cycling , a sport you have no idea about !!

COPPI IS THE GREATES OF ALL TIMES and Merckx compared is an underdog pussy who feared to join the 1975 Giro 'cos there were too hard climbs x him ( check this las too, you trolling idiot ) .

[Trulyloyale]

And now get it over, cluless jackass and retarded troll , you really annoyed everyone with your pathetic attitude and the multiple ridiculous impressions you collected till now telling a huge amount of farcical bs and bizarre nonsenses !!

Grow up child brain , you really need it and get back to yuor customable, cycling is not for you and you won't ever understand anything of it , no matter you start learning basics now to next 100 years , you're too stupid and jackass , a typical brit one !

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale Millar finished on the podium 2 times in the vuelta and 1 time in the giro and won the KOM in all the grand tours i know because i witnessed it first hand unlike you who was still sucking your mums tit. Your the one searching wikipedia because your not old enough to have experienced it, now please go fuck yourself, and coppi you sad excuse for a human being. And luis ocana won the tour in 1973 so get your facts right LITTLE BOY. Coppis a little pussy just like you, LITTLE PUSSY.

[Trulyloyale]

@GiantDefy954 Ps : and try harder with your asinine comments and your kid's lies, 'cos Coppi was no Epons Armstrong or Philippa York or bradley wiggins or any pathetic farcical british / american dped cheat, unlike Merckx who took some doping at end of 1960s, COPPI NEVER TOOK ANY DOPING IN HIS CAREER ,

NOT ONLY HE NEVER SAID HE TOOK DOPING BUT ALSO HE COULD HAVE NEVER SAID THAT

SINCE DOPING DIDN'T EXIST IN 1940s , 1950s and 1960-67s , you chose wrong source this time if you checked quickly

[Trulyloyale]

on junk wikipedia anglosaxon edition , 'cos personal opinions of clueless ignorant wasp people ( which is all what wikipedia is made of 'cos it has nothing true and scientific ) are just the opposite of true history and true facts !!

Got it clueless dickhead and ignorant britton ??

COPPI NEVER GOT DOPED , DOPING DIDN'T EVEN EXIST WHEN HE WAS A CYCLIST

HE IS THE EMBLEM OF CYCLING RAIDER ( of course you don't know it since you're a clueless brit )

and HE'S THE GREATEST CYCLIST

[Trulyloyale]

OF ALL TIMES , HIS VICTORIES and HIS LIFE ARE THE ONE REAL LEGEND OF CYCLING AND THEY WERE BOTH CLEAN and FAIR, thanks God he was no Merckx running only ag Gimondi and nobody else and he was no philippa york or one of these american / british pathetic doped fagotts who are only ridiculous craps any time they get on a bycicle and play their farcical comedies like drugged clowns, as it has always been ....!!

Post more brainless and clueless trolling idiot

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale You call me a troll if you look at your first comment you insulted me and then kept harassing me. Coppi did dope because they used these things called AMPHETAMINES (they used them during the war) so yes there was such thing as doping you brainless, halfwit idiot keep up your bullshit seen as you cant write anything else. And its just common knowledge the things i know about cycling whereas all you do is oppose anything i say and you dont even know if your right or wrong TROLL

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale You call yourself a nice guy and all you do is shout racist shit at me. So why dont you go fuck the pope you stupid italian piece of shit, your nation is made up of hypocrite catholic scum. Your cyclists are all dopers for example Marco pantani, riccardo ricco FAUSTO COPPI, Vincenzo nibali, danilo di luca, franco pellizotti.Leave cycling as you obviously know nothing and you are making everyone laugh with your lack of knowledge you ignorant italian childbrain TROLL

[Trulyloyale]

@GiantDefy954 No brainless idiot , YOU stupid and clueless british scum fuck yourself along with your trolling shit and your repertory of asinine comments and bizarre bs , only a retard can pretend to debate over a subject he has no idea about making everyone laugh x his childish ignorance and stupidity like YOU have done till now with cycling !!

Get back to what you're more accustome 'cos till now you have been able only to spell out kid's lies and to invent funny bs !!

[Trulyloyale]

Only a clueless wasp idiot and an ingorant trolling child brain can be so jackass , so stupid and so clueless to mix up pantani with riccò ( apart the abyss in class since riccò unlike pantani was only a poor prick ) and di luca with Coppi who rode 50 years before and he NEVER TOOK ANY DOPING SINCE ( I repeat once more, let's see if this time you're goona understand what I'm trying to tech, you wooden minded pathetic anglosaxon jackass ) DOPING DIDN'T EXIST 60 or 50 years ago !!

[Trulyloyale]

And I'll also repeat once more : Coppi, the onle one true legend and the greatest cycling in history , was no Epons armstrong , no bradley wiggins or Miss phiklippa york ( robert millar ) , definitely he was just from another planet compared to these american / british doped faggots and pathetic clowns and Italy is no shitty US or UK cheat , our victories are all clean and fair and not dirty and totally robbed from some pathetic wasp druged cheaters and enhanced cunts.

[Trulyloyale]

That's why USA DELIBERATELY NEVER checked and tested their doped clowns x decades and the same is keeping on doing UK with all their cheat faggots of track / road cycling at bejing 08 , differently from Italy that is probably the best and most severe country in fighting doping , in doing antidoping tests and in checking their athletets , NOT COVERING UP ANY DOPING SCANDAL or ENHANCED SUBSTANCES INVESTIGATIONS , differently from what the dirty anglosaxon cheaters use to do ...!!!

[Trulyloyale]

Post more and keep on dreamin' on philippa york alias robert millar great successes 'cos that 2nd palce in Giro d'Italia 1987 was a fake and totally cheated one and it has been wisely cancelled some time ago by Pro Tour assoc. due to his massive , infinite and certidfied use of steroyds ( woa, a wasp faggot who got doped , what news ...!! PP ) .

As x Luis Ocana I said and I repeat he was a good climber, but he was not one of greatest riders of history since he was good only on climb

[Trulyloyale]

but he was not the one who feared and snashed Merckx on climb , as said even Italian climber Baronchelli crushed and made the belgian eat dust on tough climbs x several times, another added evidence of why ALL

PEOPLE EXPERT of CYCLING ( and people from speaking english countries definitely are not among them )

say Coppi was far better than Merckx and he's the greatest of all times.

Ocana won the Tour 1973 but, as I said in my prev comment , no matter he's in the Hall

[Trulyloyale]

that Tour may not be considered a true one 'cos Merckx ( I repeat once again, at least learn to do your searches

on google, u clueless jackass ) didn't partecipate that year , so ....!!

Got it now, retard ??

And now stop botherig us all with your huge amount of asinine redundant comments full of bizarre vs and nonsensed statements, 'cos every time a stupid wasp jackass tries to talk of cycling , no matter he's a troll

he makes laugh due to his idiocy and clueless attitude !!

Post more

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale Why do you type 2000 word comments to get your point across, can you not see that i dont care about the repetitive shit that you type, heres some advice .Get. A. Life. and stop posting pointless comments you waste of space turd. No one else gives a fuck about you either you argumentative atention seeking troll

[Trulyloyale]

@GiantDefy954 I've yet replied to such a weak, pathetic and pointless argument, but as usual you're showing to be a retarded jackass and a ridiculous child brain .

I shut your kid's mouth 2000 times with 2000 good and skilled words to teach you any basics of cycling and related history, but of course you haven't got anything 'cos one thing you can understamd and do , which is how to make a fool of urself and how to make laugh with your amount of bullshiting comments and trolling idiocies !!

[Trulyloyale]

I told you so many times and now I'm gonna repeat that : GO POST YOUR TROLL'S SHIT ELSEWHERE

AND PICK ANOTHER SUBJECT DIFFERENT FROM CYCLING MORE FAMILIAR TO YOUR THINY BRAIN

and YOUR CHILDISH STUPID ATTITIUDE !

This video is x skilled people who really know cycling and its history and can appreciate all the beauty and poetry in it , everybody in here hates your infinite stupidity and ignorance

along with your 4000 asinine comments and bizarre bs so typical of any clueless troll !

[Trulyloyale]

Wash your empty head and fill it with some brain ....you pathetic dumbass !!

Wasp retards , how typical , what an idiot ...!!

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale your such a genius, you said i have a "thiny brain" and "stupid attitiude" by trying to insult me you have indeed embarassed yourself, please, to risk further embarassment use a dictionary cos your "good and skilled words" dont make sense when they appear as misspelt shite. Leave Cycling as you obviously have no knowledge of the sport and have to support the underdog to be different from everyone else. PS use different insults as "asinine and bizzare" are getting boring TROLL!!!!!

[Trulyloyale]

@GiantDefy954 Cut it off now , ignorant and retarded clueless troll, you don't have any idea of cycling

( I'd say of all sports ....) and your redundant shit cloning and stepping my comments is as pathetic and childish as weak and boring !!

Pass on and go post your troll's bizarre bs on another subject different from this one here about which you make even full stops laugh due to your asinine attitude and stupidity !!

Worry of your beloved english / american doped fagotts

[Trulyloyale]

who are the joke of cyclism and can only do on thing , which is getting doped and cheating like those pathetic clowns they are , this video is about old time cycling so its not the rite place x such a clueless dumbass as you .

Greet x me ur beloved US / UK pumped cunts and ur great " champ " Miss Philippa York , another typical brit doped comedian & slimy cheater who was a man as long as his own daily dose of steroyds allowed it ..! )))

Grow up and post more brainless idiot & dummy troll

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale yawn...

[Trulyloyale]

@GiantDefy954 Grow up retarded brit child brain, you really need it and stick to yuor home stuff & doped shemales , 'cos you are embarrassingly and pathetically ignorant of cycling, just like 99.99% of british morons !!

[GiantDefy954]

Riding against nobodies? Lucien Van Impe( 6 time KOM winner+ 76' tour winner), Raymond Poulidor (2nd + 3rd 8 times also won vuelta), Jose Manuel Fuente( one of the best ever climbers), ,joop zoetemelk(1980 tour winner and handful of 2nd +3rds also 1979 vuelta), luis ocana(1973 tour winner and 1970 vuelta), bernard thevenet (1975,77 tour winner). Also Merckx won more grand tours than he lost, coppi lost more than he won. I think its funny how you call them nobodies when you couldnt beat them

[GiantDefy954]

Coppi had less careers wins than merckx, less world championship titles, a slower hour record, less classics, his grand tour speeds were slower, and yet you still argue coppi was better. Get it in your head HE WASNT. Also merckx won every competition in the 69' tour. Just face it Coppi wasnt as good as Merckx, Merckx opponents were actually fearful of how strong he was and he beat them so often that they said they were all riding just to keep up and this is grand tour winners speaking

[GiantDefy954]

@Trulyloyale well all of the bullshit you just said aside the reason he is remarked as the best as he beat coppis hour record, won the tour with higher average speeds every year and to be frank was just a stronger rider with a better will to win also how many stages did merckx win of the tour... oh yeh 35... coppi uhhh quite a bit less

[dralfonzo]

what is the name of the angry guy at the start?

[MinGyuShin]

@dralfonzo

haha~ He's Vicenzo Torriani, most famouse director of The Giro's .. ^ ^*

[ZAOUWV]

Eddy Merckx The best ever! No doubt about it.