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  • No proof of any kind of god exists. Period. If you want to believe based on faith, that's your choice -- but it doesn't make it fact. I could have faith that Poseidon or Zeus or Aphrodite or James Bond are real; Does that make them real factually? No.

    This song is fantastic! One of my favorite of the "later" Todd years.

  • Hi Todd fans. Check out my version of this song on my youtube page! Peace.

    youtubeDOTcom/morbidmanmusic

  • Twenty years on, the song is still apt and accurate. Just look at the teabaggers and their desire to seize power and eradicate anyone who doesn't share their narrow minded view.

    The only solutions religions offer are FINAL solutions.

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  • This put in such a good mood I had to replay :))))))

  • Yes, this song is a somewhat hidden gem on Todd's resume. Excellent song!

  • Can't even sing jingle bells without someone saying it's religeous...can't have that...no Christmas tree's, no crucifixes, nothing to do with Christianity...or we'll take it to the supreme court...Go somewhere else where the country isn't founded on Jesus ! Good Luck...LOL...better watch your back...in God WE trust...

  • @4PeterCan2 - "Better watch your back"? Why? Because fascist christians like you will either stab people in the back or bend them over to rape them?

  • @zxcv1234vcxz i think this applies to muslim extremists rather than christians.

  • Are you hearing what I'm hearing ? No...it's all personal interpretation Jesus is my King, and I love this song...

  • Tood is the only person I can deal with when he raps.

  • @DizziNY1 Seriously?! Can't handle any rappers out there? Not even Chuck D? Dude, Todd's my fave, but hearing him rap is excruciatingly embarrassing. He should have had someone rap it for him...or he should've put a minimal melody. He's got no flow in his rhymes. Ugh. It's the era of Todd's work that, for the most part, I'd like to forget.

  • All I'm saying is people over history, have used religion to suit their own needs and totally disregard the text which they follow. As far as the Huck comment, I know Todd speaks out about his beliefs and so does Huckabee but I don't recall him slamming Todd. People have their opinions but I personally believe until people meet face to face (which is becoming more and more a rare occurrence these days) they shouldn't slam others.

  • As far as Muhammad goes, that's a whole different nut there. The Quran as well as the Bible are written by the hand of man, not God. The ONLY thing purportedly written by the hand of God were the Ten Commandments Ironically, the Quran has they very same thing - worded slightly different. The bottom line? We're killing each other over a meteorite that fell beside Muhammed, and a wooden cross that a man was crucified on for spreading peace. Insane.

  • @MrCrowtown U think mohammad was peaceful? lol. tThe guy had sex with kids and killed others if they didn't convert to islam. Matter a fact, in the qu'ran it tells muslims to kill non-believers and that it is ok to rape women, and if the woman is raped they are wrong and they get stoned to death. So, please, don't compare Jesus to mohammad. Jesus NEVER said to kill others who do not convert. Neither has Buddah or any other of the REAL peacemakers

  • @MrCrowtown The basic text in the qu'ran is bad, it's foundation is hateful. The Bible on the other hand, doesn't tell u to kill non-believers, it tells u to love and pray for them. It doesn't hate homosexuals, it tells u to pray for them. If someone who doesn't understand this, ex:The Westboro Chrush, it is not a true representation of Christianity. Just like the Catholic church is not a true rep of Christianity. They twist the text to fit their agenda.

  • @DizziNY1 Read the ENTIRE book, not just the last half. NO ONE is told to kill anyone unless GOD is the leader of that nation. HE LEADS NONE right now because all asked him to butt out (I Samuel 9)

    Yes, all religions are fake because they re-write the book to reflect their warped agendas. DEEPER research is needed .The Truth is SOON to come. Be READY Gays, Bigots, Falsifiers, Murderers, and all who disobey god must REPENT. NO one is told to kill anyone. GOD will do it in fairness.

  • True Dat!!

  • Respond to this video... True Dat!!

  • Yeh DizzNY1, I know what Todd was doing here. He is constantly pushing the boundaries of people's thinking through his music. I've always liked his music but he is, sadly a flaming liberal hoping for a "Utopian" society that never will be. I began not attending his concerts because he made this comment "What the hell's a Huckabee?" Not that I'm a fan of Huckabee by any means, I just don't need the politics while I'm trying to enjoy the music. If I'd wanted to do that I'd have stayed home.

  • @MrCrowtown A Utopiam society will never be because of people's own self interests. It is sad but true. I don't agree w Todd on everything, but I do on most things. I don't agree w most Christians on things like vegetarianism, but I believ it is what God wld have us do. Our pipeline to God has been blocked up by stupidity. I love America but I do not buy into socialism, I do however buy into independence and helping others who truly need it. Teaching others to be independent is loving.

  • @MrCrowtown Why would u stop going to see him because he doesn't like Huck? I mean, Todd writes about everything an any fan knows he is into politics. I like the fact he is so outspoken on world affairs.

  • Jesus was more of a Socialist than a Fascist, but I can see where Todd is coming from with this song. He will disavow the right-wingers who claimed they followed him when he comes back saying "I never knew you. Get away from me, you evil people!".

  • @dariowestern Oh Bull, Christ was far from a socialist. He never said to take, steal, from others and redistribute the wealth. He said, to work and to be good to others. Social justice is NOT in the word of God.

  • @dariowestern Not only that but Jesus never singled out anyone, right, left, middle of the road. He said, the fake believers, so stop interjecting you pvt interpretation and opinion into Jesus' words.

  • @DizziNY1 PLEASE read the book, He singled out UNREPENTANT SINNERS, PHONY Believers, LAWBREAKERS, PHARASAICAL BISHOPS and PRIESTS, and anyone who did no live him by his definition. ANYONE WHO DID NOT KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. Check it for yourself. The libs AND the Cons (most should BE in jail) are wrong on this one. Research the book for yourself. FEW truly understand it.

  • It's an interesting observation. If Christ was or is a Facist, then what is Muhammad?

  • @MrCrowtown Todd is talking about the Catholic church. Todd is not against Jesus, he is saying that Jesus' words have been twisted to fit someone else's, the Catholic church's, agenda. He is saying somebody has gotten between man and God.

  • @MrCrowtown mohammad is a pedophile.

  • Just my own opinion...Todd Rundgren is the most articulate and listenable singer songwriter america has produced...from his "wall of sound" earlier recordings right through the 70s prog and 80s pop and the 90s & 00s high concept, the man reinvents the musical wheel as he sees fit, and im onboard for the ride...In England we dont have a "Todd", we have good musicians but not "ground breakers"...Thanks America for Utopia, Zappa and the Tubes...Mavericks All...

  • Todd was ahead of his time with his observations in this song. Read Chris Hedges' book 'American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America' for details of this proto-fascist movement that's been with us since the Reagan administration. Serious scholars of fascism point to its signs visible in the evangelical movement.

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  • @DizziNY1 Respond to what video?

    Why'd you remove your comment?

    Chiris Hedges is not a "liberal," fool. And even if he were, so what? Who the hell do you think you are telling anyone whom they should or should not read? Chris Hedges is a socialist, as am I.

    You, on the other hand, are a complete and utter asshole who is probably a follower of some fascistic psuedo-Christian church similar to those described in this song and video.

    You people are creeps.

  • @bapyou Why is it bad to be a liberal? Well liberals want to give away everything and redistribute other people's things, in other words stealing from others. Also, they support the New World Order, WAKE UP ALREADY.

  • @bapyou Funny how if someone has a diff POV you call them creeps and insult them. That is exactly what progressive liberals do. They can't handle truth. Just the fact that you curse and insult shows just how unintelligent you really are.`

  • @DizziNY1 "if someone has a diff POV you call them creeps and insult them."

    If all there was to evangelical Christian is the fact that they have a "different point of view," then I'd agree with your statement. Such is not the case.

    ECs are the vanguard of fascism in America. If you've read the serious scholarship on how fascist movements came about in Germany & Italy during economic collapse (as I have), the fact I call them names is the least of the issue.

  • @bapyou First off, you are catagorizing ME without even knowing me and that is generalizing which is wrong. I do not force what I believe on anyone. When someone asks you a question and you are blunt and honest with them, they can't handle it. As for name calling, no, you shouldn't do it. If you want to lower yourself you can, but as for me, I am better than that.

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  • @bapyou The other day I told this female I worked with that I was going to a Vegan Cafe', she stated soy is bad for you. I replied that's not true, the breast cancer rate in asian women is like 1.2% and when they move to America their cancer rates soar because they change their eating habits She got all mad, told my supervisor I was rude, and guess what, I got fired. Tell me this, do you think stating a fact is something to be fired for?

  • @DizziNY1 Any reason is a good reason for you to get fired. Besides, as your fellow "conservatives" never tire of telling me, "Go get a job you lazy hippie!" It doesn't matter if there aren't any jobs, your fellow idiot "conservatives" still tell me to get a job. Even though I have one.

    Anyway, I don't give a fuck about you. I only post comments on You Tube cause I'm bored sometimes. Most of the people on here (like you) are total idiots who couldn't fart sideways in a subway.

    War.

  • @DizziNY1 No. But processed soy is toxic. Asians don't process it as we do by irradiating it a heat levels that radiate it to toxicity. She was right, but probably was told by someone else and didn't really know how to tell you why. Also U.S soybeans are DNA spliced with Pig DNA as is corn to splice Pesticide into the seeds themselves. Sorry about your job, but her facts were right, but a disagreement should not have cost Your MEANS TO MAKE A LIVING. Woman's world. Todd nails it again.

  • @bapyou Essentially TRUE, Dat!!

  • Todd was so "on his game" during this period (late 80s to early 90s) of his career! I love pretty much all of Todd's stuff, but I have to say that Nearly Human, Second Wind, and No World Order (even though very different from those other records) are just completely phenomenal records!!! That's not to take anything away from any of Todd's other works - I love it all!!! However, for me, Todd just took it up another notch on these albums.

  • Brilliant video and ahead of its time-think election day, November, 2010. Big trouble when intolerant people get ahold of big power-see Chris Hedges...

  • THANK YOU for putting up this video!!! An incredible song by an incredible artist. It's also fantastic live, it'll have you up on your feet and screaming!!!

  • Who you think your'e messing with?

  • And all of those who have tried to separate us from God.

  • This song is chastising the Catholic church who has defiled the true Word of God.

  • @DizziNY1 As a Catholic, I would like to know how you draw that conclusion. 

  • @MrGenXer Spanish Inquisition, the Catholic church has helped Nazis, the church lies about just about everything and they want to come into your pvt life and tell u what to do...... Why do u thinl Todd references The Spanish Inquisition. If u listen, u will get it. The Catholic church is bad, very very bad. They came to be when early Christians compromised real Christianity and adopted pagan rituals and beliefs. Aka- Christmas the pagan Festival of Lights, the praying to statues, etc........

  • @DizziNY1 Which religion doesn't advise us on our personal lives?? Every single religion has its skeletons and its sins. I'm Catholic and I've never prayed to a statue and I was never told to pray to a statue. Have you been to a Catholic mass? Only God is prayed to and worshipped. What is the true Christianity? Oh, let me guess, YOUR Christianity.

  • @MrGenXer  I WAS BROUGHT UP CATHOLIC FOOL. I RAN when I saw the truth. Damn Nazi war criminal harborers. Don't try to bs me.

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  • @DizziNY1 I'm glad you left. And you sound like a real jerk, but everyone on the internet acts like a jerk because you can say things you normally wouldn't say to someone's face. I came on here to listen to Rundgren, but then I find you on here proselytizing. WHY??? Why do you care about a church you left and what difference does it make how people worship, unless it REALLY affects us like radical jihad? I don't get people who preach in public.

  • @MrGenXer LMAO I'm a jerk because I tell the truth about the evil Catholic church? What, you can't deal w the fact the church is evil and they force their ways on people and they helped Nazis?? You are a fool and a twit, you have your eyes closed and it's people like you that make it hard for others to live a normals life.And trust me, I have no fear to say all of this to your face.

  • @DizziNY1 You are a jerk because you called me a fool and now a twit. I don't bother anybody about religion. I make it hard for people to live normal lives?? huh?? Ok, now you are demented. Again, I'll repeat this. I don't understand why you are on here trying to ram your views on others. Who is actually the real twit here? And I'm wasting my time with you.

  • @MrGenXer BTW, Catholics are NOT Christians. They are misled by evil people. I feel bad for people who don't know any better because they are being lead down the wrong path thinking they are right.

  • @DizziNY1 Besides, as Christians, both you and I should be rejecting Rundgren's song jointly. He's talented but bitter in this case.

  • @MrGenXer Ah no cuz he tells the truth. Do u even READ my posts? I said, Todd is NOT against Jesus but the people who have twisted his words. You need to wake up.

  • c'est le maitre

  • I think this tune was all in all a misstep for him, one because it's overtly political and two because it's a rap song. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but loathing and contempt for religious nutters who feel the government is theirs to control at the exclusion of everyone else and think they have a God-given right to lord it over the rest of society. But I would expect better than this from a musical talent the likes of Rundgren

  • So loved this man,so sad to see him go this way.

  • 50 years ago this would have taken nerve: now it's a tired yawner. Why not target Islamic honor rapes, honor killing of women, maiming little girls in Afghanistan, weekly stonings, beheadings, genital mutilation of women, daily suicide bombings? EVERY DAY Muslims murder as Mohammad did. Cowards like you crucified Jesus; the turn the other cheek love your enemy crowd won't hurt you. Islam will kill you for drawing a single cartoon or sending a girl to school. thereligionofpeace dawt cawm

  • @muzicul

    Tell you what.

    I'll invent the flux capacitor if you buy the delorean, and together we'll send you back to 1992-1993ish when Todd was in the process of putting this song on his album, and you can deliver this newsflash to him.

    Give him a good finger wag, will ya?!

  • Thank you; been looking along time

  • BRILLIANT

  • Thanks algoraro for the share!

  • Your welcome! this was shared by someone else to me! I love the loop, so to speak!

  • I wish Todd would've made more music videos, all of the ones he's made have been so visually stimulating

  • this could benifit from another mix.

  • may offend some, but reallyyyy cool video.

  • I got this video whenever it came out, some 13 or so years ago, whatever it was. I was working with gang children at the time in LA. Showed it to them,this video, and expected them to revolt and run into their quarters, but instead, they told me this was pretty "tight ass shit", and had me show it them several times. Pretty cool.

  • ...great video ... a visual Francis Bacon

  • havent seen this one in years---thanks

    (todd fan since Nazz days)

  • "Fascist Messiah"? It is clear Todd Rundgren was talking about kool-aid drinking Bushbots.

  • to satansacolyte continued: His lyric says exactly what he wants it to, addressing with no punches pulled a social situation that absolutely deserves his "gloves-off" approach. It's not great poetic lyric, it's RAP for god's sake, if you'll forgive the pun. There is another of his anti-religious polemics you should perhaps take to heart when it says, "get over yourself."

  • to satansacolyte continued: I don't believe there is anything childish about this dark work. Just the attachment of the word "fascist" to the word "Christ" takes the entire song out of the realm of puerility. You forcefully encouraged boz6969123 to "Go back to school." I would suggest that you walk the talk.Todd Rundgren is using a popular idiom that is itself generally characterized by straightforward lyric.

  • To "satansacolyte" from a year ago. Sorry, no one here is a sycophant. They're just fans who love what TR does and are just less critical than you are. A sycophant is a person who engages in servile or obsequious behavior for personal gain. Nothing to be gained by ordinary fans for praising Todd for his work. Also, his lyrics may be simple and straightforward, and you may think they are "stupid", but puerile they are not. Puerile implies CHILDISH silliness.

  • Thank You for this video! X-D

  • He's a real artist!!!love his rap!!!

  • Impeach Bush! Put the radical right fascists back in the wood work where they belong.

    Todd/Utopia = great music.

  • Todd Rundgren is an influence to me and any other artist he gives confidence to that you can get up and perform your music by yourself.

  • OOO thank you very much i love his music even thoe i am a metal head and such buti was looking thru my todd folder and decided to look up some vids

  • Haven't heard this song since '93. Thanks for posting this.

  • dearest richardkorby:

    I believe the song is facist Christ, not facist God.

  • I was completely unfamiliar with Todd Rundgren when I found No World Order on cassette at a thrift store selling for $1.00 in San Antonio, Texas, along with some other stuff. Together with a cassette by Bob James called Restless, it saw an enormous amount of play. I had never considered rap a legitimate art form, but Rundgren's musical talent and lyrical integrity convinced me otherwise. From the first track (alluding to a pandemic) to the last ("Fever Broke") it's a thematic whole.

  • WE HAVE BEEN WARNED

  • The artist is not the one exploiting Jesus it is the neocon Republicans who have used religion to justify their unjust war and torture!

    Wonderful video!

    This song is from the TR1 No World Order album.

  • awesome, thanks for posting!

  • this is like a stryper video for marxists.

    he is trying to Rap? LMAO.

  • Fascist Christ video personifies Todd Rundgren as a true creative and visionary genius.

  • What album is this on?

  • I think it's either "No World Order" or "The Individualist," easily two of the three worst albums he's ever done. Only "With a Twist" was more insufferable. It's no wonder Warner Bros. let him out of his contract; they must've heard this album.

  • "Get your head straight." All three are totally brilliant works which ONLY Todd could pull off.

  • In what you see as "self-indulgent crap" I see absolutely brilliant conceptual art, political commentary, the expansion of a musical form and very much more. I do "get it".

    As to sales numbers... WTF does that have to do as far as any validity of the effort or the outcome? Nothing. Were it the true determination, Coltrane would have sold far more than The Spice Girls.

    You're allowed not to "get it", of course. Just don't complain that you don't. "Get your head straight."

  • @cubdukat If you don't like him, don't listen to him. You criticize him and yet you are in NO WAY as talented and successful as he is. Hmmmm. Now, go back to your $7 an hour job and be quiet.

  • Definately "No World Order." In case you didn't get the message from "Swing to the Right" which somebody seriously needs to find and post if at all possible.

  • i dont' see where bending a cross into a nazi symbol has anything to do with people who make money off christianity........ just seems like another shot at jesus(hey.......and i'm a todd fan) i think "he" takes to many hits as it is........peace

  • The use of the swastika in this video is not "another shot at Jesus." It explains how America uses Christianity as a catalyst in exploiting it's citizens to make more money and to gain more control over it's people. Much how the fascist regime of the Nazi Party used it's beliefs, war, and genocide to brainwash it's followers and make the economy of Germany flourish.

  • i liked it.

  • this song kick arse live

  • stupid song with stupid lyrics. Am I the only Todd Rundgren fan who isn't a sycophant. If he produces garbage, I'm going to say so.

  • im sorry in a word....... BRILLIANT!what do you mean "bad lyrics" WAKE THE F/.CK UP!!!!!

  • I have "woken the F-- up" as you so eloquently state it. In fact, I am quite lucid. The lyrics are puerile and so are you. Go back to school.

  • dude do you even know what this song is about? HELLO! its NOT samming CHRIST, its slamming people making $off him! (you being a tr fan, i mean cmon, im sure your cool!WHY CANT WE BE FREINDS?911=inside job!

  • Sure, we can still be friends. Maybe we shouldn't play this game anymore. Anyway, I know what the song is about. I have nothing against what is expressed in the song, I just think it was done poorly. If people are hoodwinked into giving money "for God", it's their own fault. I am a big Todd fan, that's probably why my criticism was harsh because I expect more. But it's cool, Todd fans shouldn't fight. Peace

  • Peace!!!(didnt know your a fan!!!!)Stupid me!!thanx for chatting though, how are you on the 911 issue? take care,boz

  • yes !!! 911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB

  • That white boy can rap!

  • Was TR raised Catholic? Just wondering.

  • I dunno, but I know he got into some Eastern religion in the late 70's.

  • Nope - Presbyterian

  • Not sure about that, but I have always thought this song is talking about the catholic religion.

  • All religions

  • Todd is smart. Intelligent lyrics. Yes, "seperate the church from the state" (don't make your 'beliefs' my laws) (and I am a believer in God).

  • Word up!

  • It certainly is better than 75% of rap out [especially of the " gangsta " variety. Or popular rock/rap-can you imagine something like this out of something like Limp Biscut [or however their name is spelled.]

  • What a brilliant mind and far ahead of his time. This song, like many of TR's songs, sends a very powerful message. Like the poster before me, I saw this concert in Memphis, Tn and folk went totally nuts when he belted out this one. Been a Todd fan for over 30 years. Always a thrill to see/hear him progress in his gifted field. Brought me much pleasure throughout my life and now my adult children are fans. Says a lot about the talent, don't ya think?

  • "No World Order". Saw the tour to this one. He had himself w/ 3 dancers. The music was pre-programmed with the exception of his guitar & keyboard solos. He threw condoms out in the audience every now & them .When Fascist Christ was played, the audience when ballistic. That was the 1st of 15X times i've seen him. But i can go back to Something/Anything and go from there. Especially his work w/ Utopia!!!

  • Mr. AlienRelics - yes, he made (at least) two videos with Amigas and NewTek Toasters. This one (the second) and the first one, "Change Myself" which I uploaded to YouTube some months ago. Search for it

  • Howdy, Mr Laser! Yep, I remember reading about "Change Myself" when he made it. Very cool.

  • I'm told he did this with an Amiga wth Newtek Video Toaster, using Lightwave for the 3D stuff.

  • Yes. He's quite an enthusiast. I met him at the Toaster/Raptor release party. He did much of the animation himself. This has long been one of my favorite videos.

  • Yeah, this was a pretty daring move for Todd. I remember this and 2 other videos from the "No World Order" disc getting banned almost immediately from MTV & VH-1. This was actually a great LP if you can find it-Highly recommended.

  • "It sounds almost like a rap video". Ya think?

  • Thanks for this gem!!

  • This is an interesting video from Todd Rundgren. It sounds almost like a rap video, just shows the versitility of this musician.

  • It is rap music/video.

  • Love the bending of the cross into a Schwastika!

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