This is always the same story with that classical guys. Why do they place these funny explainations to hold a guitar in that stupid "classical" position.
These are only dogmatic reasons.
If you watch real great guitar players, they all hold the guitar in the logical position - without unleveled shoulders.
You are right. a lot of pop music players do hold the guitar is strange positions, but the purpose of these videos is to save time for the beginners. It takes about 10,000 hours to learn the classical guitar; why stretch it out.?
@parkwaydrive25 My guitar teacher, who I received just 1 lesson from, sings lead in his band while playing extremely difficult guitar solos with the guitar behind his back. He usually has his eyes closed. He usually uses a foot stand.
I am a guitar teacher also. I say at least one hour of practice. Then one hour of freestyle. You can repeat this process as many times as you want. The brain can only digest so much new information so break it up. Freestyling opens up your ears to compositions based on scales and chords. Joe Satriani would practice technique for 1 hr in A.M. In P.M. he would jam with friends. But, Segovia practiced for many many hours a day so...
Too much practice can hurt hands so get correct position first.
I tried this way of positiong the guitar and my right foot is not stable because only the front part(fingers) is touching the ground.Anyone any idea of correcting this?
Though, as a steel stringed guitarist I've found while strumming harmonies/chords in rhythm guitar style, it's much better to rest the body of the guitar on my right leg (under my strumming arm) because then my left hand is free to just rest there and hold down chord fingerings. When playing melodies/scales in finger picking I find, at least sometimes, it's better to place the guitar in a classical posture. So, to be fair, I don't think you should discount other methods of holding the guitar.
You know, I'm 62 years old and have just taken up the saxophone and I'd like to know the same thing. How long will it take before I'm good? The secret is to get a good teacher and you will surprise yourself in couple of years.
If you practice at least 30 minutes a day everyday using good instructions, then you should start making respectable progress in a couple of years. Of course, if you did it like me, you could do it 5 hours out of every day for a year and probably make progress a lot faster than otherwise. Though, that might tire you out to guitar. But like Zombie said, it really all depends on your love and commitment to playing. You will not be a pro overnight, so it takes lots of patience and dedication.
I think a serious student needs to work very hard just to practice a half hour a day. Once this is accomplished, he can go to two, half hour sets. Over a period of a couple of years he can progress to three hours a day. Once you are up to three hours, the trick is to improve your practicing technique, not practice more hours.
If you ask me, if someone really wants it that bad, then sitting there and building your calluses, coordination, strength, and agility while painstakingly yet with earnest enthusiasm practice, practice, and practice, sitting there for even 8 hours is not something you need to work hard at. You commit to mastering the craft from the start and just do it, and that's the most important thing in my opinion. And then after the basics, yes, you start working more on perfecting technique and tone.
I have to say, that this is THE video that made me really GET the position.. I've seen the position in books and images, but it's hard to really get it before someone explains it like this! Huge help, thank you!
hi kent murdick, i am anthony from the philippines.nway i just want to ask how do you play the righthand planting technique? is it useful for the classical guitar music? thank you very much.god bless!
your right leg is bent, a german teacher told me that it`s not correct because the guitar doesn`t stand so well balanced on you...he told me to have that leg perpendicular to the floor too
It depends on your body type. The important thing is not the details but the final result. Can you cross the strings with the right hand without the forearem haning up? Can you reach the low and high notes without having to learn over? It's import that major muscle groups are not thrown out of position. Watch out for hunched shoulders.
Ugh! This helped me a lot, too. I'm studyin' classical guitar and i've tried to find a good position and it's true what they say: Just keep it simple! Thanks
Often, the electric guitar players have better postioning than the classical guitarists, but only when standing and using a strap. It is difficult to sit with most electric guitars due to their shape. BTW, classical guitarists are moving toward using a guitar strap as well. But the short answer to your actual question is "yes".
I am teaching myself electric guitar and I eventually went to this position as I found it easier to play and feel less tired after practice. It is the most comfortable position!
I am very glad I stumbled on this video. I have NEVER thought of trying to play the guitar with it resting on my left leg..lol. I have never had lessons before. I am hoping this will help me keep the neck more steady when I play. Thanks!!:D
Wow.. just adjusting your leg a little helped me out! :O I've always held the guitar the wrong way, at least now I'm going to look better, whilst still an amateur :P
1) you need to get the guitar neck up higher, then it will be easier to keep the thumb behind the neck.
2) with the right hand you need to tilt to the left slightly (definitely not to the right like you are doing). This will allow the thumb to follow through to the index in a staight line allowing you to get a more powerful P stroke.
Actually, if you tilt to the left, P must go off to the side. In the Shearer model (and this is just one model, remember). the 'a' finger is perpendicular to the string. This allows P to move in a straight line.
I am sure that this position works well for some people, but it never worked for me as for me it is not "very comfortable." In fact, it is very uncomfortable and causes back pain. Over many years, such a position tends to distort the spinal column. I would recommend using a Dynarette cushion or Gitano support instead of this very unergonomic traditional method.
Thank you for these lessons. Aaron Shearer really understood how to eliminate fatigue. I used to get back pain after a few minutes before I read his books.
A really good lesson! It help me re-enforce my knowledge and experience thanks!
I noticed that you didn't talked about having clothes all the way to the wrist of right arm. It helps as it's easier to move forearm over the guitar to get different tones. I'm basically just saying that skin against guitar is sometimes holding back right hand playing.
The end result is all that matters, IMO. Playing with a strap may provide the best postioning. I'ver never seen a Country Western strummer who had worse positioning than Carelvaro or Julian Bream.
I need to go back to the basics. I have never had lessons and cannot read music and I regret it. I Hope it is not to late to start again. Your videos are very apreciated. Thank you and Thanks to YOUTUBE!
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DealMartClassical 1 month ago
why is their hate, he is just tying to help? Everyone's so rude these days...
haannahgracee 3 months ago
This is always the same story with that classical guys. Why do they place these funny explainations to hold a guitar in that stupid "classical" position.
These are only dogmatic reasons.
If you watch real great guitar players, they all hold the guitar in the logical position - without unleveled shoulders.
That is nonsens!
hkostal 6 months ago
You are right. a lot of pop music players do hold the guitar is strange positions, but the purpose of these videos is to save time for the beginners. It takes about 10,000 hours to learn the classical guitar; why stretch it out.?
Lutemann 3 months ago
@hkostal classical position is not for dogmatic reasons, for example you can reach the higher notes better that way.
Pinsel486 2 weeks ago
Your Classical Guitar videos are great. Thank you!
jershhh07 7 months ago
I didn't know Colonel Sanders was a guitarist.
DannyZack7 9 months ago 5
foot stand.....reallly...?
parkwaydrive25 1 year ago
@parkwaydrive25 dude, gtfo
bhabooshka 10 months ago
@parkwaydrive25 My guitar teacher, who I received just 1 lesson from, sings lead in his band while playing extremely difficult guitar solos with the guitar behind his back. He usually has his eyes closed. He usually uses a foot stand.
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nice
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JuligJamghykth 1 year ago
I don't see the purpose of this position, could hold it like a traditional guitar if you are a very tall person with long arms and legs lol.
Agumon5 1 year ago
u know what.... from this momment i hate guitars
aghoster9 1 year ago
Perfect first lesson - just what I was looking for. Thanks.
cf725b 1 year ago
thank you
evnmck 2 years ago
very good first leson
colyzee 2 years ago
Really nice teaching videos. Clearer on the whys and hows than most I've seen. Good work, thanks.
Andsetinn 2 years ago
thanks mister....
you talking about the basic of basic classic guitar...
and i need it...
thanks again
tinjulangit 2 years ago 9
@tinjulangit Yeah me too i just got my classical so much to learn
fb101786 1 year ago
Mono was or stereo.. who cares!!?
The man making a fabulous efforts..
I salute you sir and thanks alot!
maximus83iq 2 years ago
Is it my headphone, or is the audio on mono?
vjfky 2 years ago 22
i had the same doubt but now i think is the audio and not my earphones uffff thanks God
hehe
blueguitar77 2 years ago 2
i guess mono :(
Grumme3 2 years ago
Well, if it was on MONO, it would actually sound the same on both sides... This is definitely on STEREO, but one side is empty... ;-
nachube 2 years ago 2
Same here. It's only coming out of the left side.
Kal99 2 years ago
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How fucking stupid!
homerboy488 2 years ago
It's good to hear from a believer.
Lutemann 2 years ago
you,re such a complicated man
alsayed20 2 years ago
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you're fucking stupid!
TheRealEricLester 2 years ago
I am a guitar teacher also. I say at least one hour of practice. Then one hour of freestyle. You can repeat this process as many times as you want. The brain can only digest so much new information so break it up. Freestyling opens up your ears to compositions based on scales and chords. Joe Satriani would practice technique for 1 hr in A.M. In P.M. he would jam with friends. But, Segovia practiced for many many hours a day so...
Too much practice can hurt hands so get correct position first.
stepminestepminestep 2 years ago
Despite different opinions, this video is useful to me.
hkbaby1985 2 years ago
I tried this way of positiong the guitar and my right foot is not stable because only the front part(fingers) is touching the ground.Anyone any idea of correcting this?
aytias69 2 years ago
Though, as a steel stringed guitarist I've found while strumming harmonies/chords in rhythm guitar style, it's much better to rest the body of the guitar on my right leg (under my strumming arm) because then my left hand is free to just rest there and hold down chord fingerings. When playing melodies/scales in finger picking I find, at least sometimes, it's better to place the guitar in a classical posture. So, to be fair, I don't think you should discount other methods of holding the guitar.
chinesemilkman 3 years ago 3
thanx that was amazing :)
Emomoz 3 years ago
You know, I'm 62 years old and have just taken up the saxophone and I'd like to know the same thing. How long will it take before I'm good? The secret is to get a good teacher and you will surprise yourself in couple of years.
Lutemann 3 years ago
i have a question i'm 13,i wan't to know how many years i have to learn guitar for being good at it???
hilan1973 3 years ago
Anywheres from 1 day to the rest of your life. Depends on your love/comittment
ZombieMoron 3 years ago
If you practice at least 30 minutes a day everyday using good instructions, then you should start making respectable progress in a couple of years. Of course, if you did it like me, you could do it 5 hours out of every day for a year and probably make progress a lot faster than otherwise. Though, that might tire you out to guitar. But like Zombie said, it really all depends on your love and commitment to playing. You will not be a pro overnight, so it takes lots of patience and dedication.
chinesemilkman 3 years ago
thanx
hilan1973 3 years ago
does anyone else get the feeling he just posted that comment so he could say "I practice 5 hours a day"?
metalmaniac767 3 years ago 2
No what he means is "Hey be like me, I love playing the guitar so I practice everyday and now I'm good. You should try!"
latenight003 3 years ago
dont worry i do :)
metalmaniac767 3 years ago
i used to practice 8 hours a day.
laptopshop 2 years ago
I think a serious student needs to work very hard just to practice a half hour a day. Once this is accomplished, he can go to two, half hour sets. Over a period of a couple of years he can progress to three hours a day. Once you are up to three hours, the trick is to improve your practicing technique, not practice more hours.
Lutemann 3 years ago
If you ask me, if someone really wants it that bad, then sitting there and building your calluses, coordination, strength, and agility while painstakingly yet with earnest enthusiasm practice, practice, and practice, sitting there for even 8 hours is not something you need to work hard at. You commit to mastering the craft from the start and just do it, and that's the most important thing in my opinion. And then after the basics, yes, you start working more on perfecting technique and tone.
chinesemilkman 3 years ago
thank you, you look very genuine
mentallyreality 3 years ago
I'm the real deal.
Lutemann 3 years ago
hey man, great lessons... thanks¡¡¡
agmm1985 3 years ago
Kent: Glad to see you're still teaching and playing. Wish I'd been a better student back in Fayetteville.
"Doc" Schultz
mrbodhranhead 3 years ago
i have a question can u use a pick when u play a classic guitar or just by hand?
SarkoHamaAmin 3 years ago 2
These are two different styles of playing, but to answer your question, yes, you can play pick style on the classical guitar.
Lutemann 3 years ago
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westside2000 3 years ago
I have to say, that this is THE video that made me really GET the position.. I've seen the position in books and images, but it's hard to really get it before someone explains it like this! Huge help, thank you!
moonunits 3 years ago
i would like to ask, is it ok to play an acoustic style on a classical guitar?
bunnychap 3 years ago
thanks , very good ...
xxxmiguelxxx123 3 years ago
thankyou. Philip
bodymindfitness 3 years ago 2
can i ask if i can put the guitar on my right leg instead?
blizzaraga 3 years ago
if you're left handed and got a left handled guitar maybe
CCTV9 3 years ago
You might need a tripod or a cushion type support instead of the foot stand.
Lutemann 3 years ago
thanks for your answer
shulitager 3 years ago
hi Kent i just watched the video and i have a little question:
can i play in that position even when i have a small sised body?
shulitager 3 years ago
Planting is useful as a teaching tool, but I don't use it as a basis for technique the way some teachers do.
Lutemann 4 years ago
hi kent murdick, i am anthony from the philippines.nway i just want to ask how do you play the righthand planting technique? is it useful for the classical guitar music? thank you very much.god bless!
tonnaval 4 years ago
It's made by a guy named James Fuller.
Lutemann 4 years ago
Your guitar looks exactly like mine? Is it a Raimundo guitar or all classical guitars look alike?
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xydiegoxy 4 years ago
your right leg is bent, a german teacher told me that it`s not correct because the guitar doesn`t stand so well balanced on you...he told me to have that leg perpendicular to the floor too
sadicool15 4 years ago
It depends on your body type. The important thing is not the details but the final result. Can you cross the strings with the right hand without the forearem haning up? Can you reach the low and high notes without having to learn over? It's import that major muscle groups are not thrown out of position. Watch out for hunched shoulders.
Lutemann 4 years ago
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muratar 4 years ago
Hope that you keep helping us out with the expert advise and you are a great teacher thank again
gibby6117 4 years ago 2
You can ask any question you like in this forum and I will try to get back to you.
Kent Murdick
Lutemann 4 years ago
Ugh! This helped me a lot, too. I'm studyin' classical guitar and i've tried to find a good position and it's true what they say: Just keep it simple! Thanks
Kapa53 4 years ago
May I ask ,is this a good position for the electric guitar also??
gibby6117 4 years ago
Often, the electric guitar players have better postioning than the classical guitarists, but only when standing and using a strap. It is difficult to sit with most electric guitars due to their shape. BTW, classical guitarists are moving toward using a guitar strap as well. But the short answer to your actual question is "yes".
Lutemann 4 years ago
Great posting!!!
Check my classical guitar videos and feel free to comment on whatever you may think needs work
Peace!
LocoPCtheoneandonly 4 years ago
You'll have to wait for someone else to do that.
Lutemann 4 years ago
How would you hold the guitar if you had a bad back - could you demonstrate with a A-frame or a Ergoplay support?
GuitarBenny 4 years ago
i got the same guitar yamaha
matic1718 4 years ago
I am teaching myself electric guitar and I eventually went to this position as I found it easier to play and feel less tired after practice. It is the most comfortable position!
TheOriginalEntz 4 years ago
Thats how I found it easy.
jess1541 4 years ago
I am very glad I stumbled on this video. I have NEVER thought of trying to play the guitar with it resting on my left leg..lol. I have never had lessons before. I am hoping this will help me keep the neck more steady when I play. Thanks!!:D
lilsmusic 4 years ago
Wow.. just adjusting your leg a little helped me out! :O I've always held the guitar the wrong way, at least now I'm going to look better, whilst still an amateur :P
LFCLuffy 4 years ago
1) you need to get the guitar neck up higher, then it will be easier to keep the thumb behind the neck.
2) with the right hand you need to tilt to the left slightly (definitely not to the right like you are doing). This will allow the thumb to follow through to the index in a staight line allowing you to get a more powerful P stroke.
Lutemann 4 years ago
I hope your back doesn't go out of wack with that footstool . . .
phishfollower 4 years ago
Me too. It hasn't so far, but that can happen to some using the foot stool. I just recommend the basic position, the foot stool itself.
Lutemann 4 years ago
Me too. I don't like th footstool.
Lutemann 2 years ago
Actually, if you tilt to the left, P must go off to the side. In the Shearer model (and this is just one model, remember). the 'a' finger is perpendicular to the string. This allows P to move in a straight line.
Lutemann 2 years ago
I'm a math teacher and I rarely teach the guitar anymore.
Lutemann 4 years ago
Do you still play the guitar? I hope so. lol
BTW, great lesson. I play classical but mainly classical stuff.
greentree24 3 years ago
I am sure that this position works well for some people, but it never worked for me as for me it is not "very comfortable." In fact, it is very uncomfortable and causes back pain. Over many years, such a position tends to distort the spinal column. I would recommend using a Dynarette cushion or Gitano support instead of this very unergonomic traditional method.
watcherxy21 4 years ago
Thank you for these lessons. Aaron Shearer really understood how to eliminate fatigue. I used to get back pain after a few minutes before I read his books.
PaulsTube 4 years ago
A really good lesson! It help me re-enforce my knowledge and experience thanks!
I noticed that you didn't talked about having clothes all the way to the wrist of right arm. It helps as it's easier to move forearm over the guitar to get different tones. I'm basically just saying that skin against guitar is sometimes holding back right hand playing.
GProMangore 4 years ago
I agree. I was making math videos when I made this video (I'm a math teacher), and there was some time left so I made the guitar video.
Lutemann 4 years ago
without using the hands at all the guitar should be supported in 4 places:
-resting on the left thigh
-leaning against the right inner thigh
-underneath the right forearm(just below the elbow)
-the guitar back leaning on the left side of your chest.
the left leg should make a vertical line and the right leg must make room for the instrument(but I don't like positioning it to the back )
guitar0707 4 years ago
The end result is all that matters, IMO. Playing with a strap may provide the best postioning. I'ver never seen a Country Western strummer who had worse positioning than Carelvaro or Julian Bream.
Lutemann 4 years ago
Thank you very much sir.
DelayLoy 5 years ago
Youtube is wonderful! Good Luck on going on your venture.
Lutemann 5 years ago
I need to go back to the basics. I have never had lessons and cannot read music and I regret it. I Hope it is not to late to start again. Your videos are very apreciated. Thank you and Thanks to YOUTUBE!
francoprs 5 years ago
hey these are great, im starting lessons next summer so these will get me started! thanks :)
tinopuisto 5 years ago
I'm glad you got something from these videos.
Lutemann 5 years ago