TF2 Huntsman Hitbox Demonstration

[AirCooledMan2006]

Valve really needs to shrink the Fucksman hitbox. How intelligent do they have to be to get hitboxes right?

[juzzi2118]

@Draknfyre One rocket jump in and the sniper is fucked, unless he plays competitive in which case he could go for an aerial headshot. But a majority of the time even the likes of Justin, Mackey and Liquid can not land it, and will get juggled and killed, unable to scope in or fire arrows in mid air.

[juzzi2118]

@XxArrowBluexX Obvious troll is obvious.

[00Eregos00]

Hunt Hunt Hunt he's the Huntsman!!! Into action is his cry!

[massampage]

so, has this been fixed?

[Tiomasta]

@massampage Yes

[13LatinPride13]

Very well done.

Especially considering you didn't get paid or wasn't sponsored by anybody.

You deserve my thumbs up :D

[psychoandfbi]

At very close range (in front of your face), you can do 200dmg at headshot, killing a soldier instantly. It's always good to pair up your huntsman with jarate or smg to finish your enemies easier.

Spam at head levels and at narrow passageway. A good prediction, practices and a bit of luck will make you a deadly Robin Hood.

[VCRRecorded360]

Thanks for the info,I've been wondering about some of the shots I've seen.

and about the other comments,"why we cant have nice things"

The huntsman is difficult to use and anyone who has used it enough knows that its balanced,everything in TF2 is balanced when viewed objectively.

[egobot13]

@VCRRecorded360 this why we have 3 heavies and medic combos on servers :/

[VCRRecorded360]

@egobot13 spy.......see balance

[epicSMGfan]

ignore these yellow boxes THEYRE BLUE

[XxArrowBluexX]

Everyone who thinks Soldier is better is wrong the rockets are easily dodged and Huntman is faster then a rocket.

[Travianero94]

creepy song

[Burn700]

meanwhile at Valve...

[Danny123456789000]

what song was that?And why did it cut off at 0:12?

[Demalaxy]

The arrow when shot straight ahead perpendicular to a surface will always end up slightly to the right relative to the player. I have stood square at the wall and shot at pleanty of sprays to know the arrows ends up to the right of where the aim reticle is. Where is the character's head at 0:10? Slightly to the left, and therefore the arrow ends up in the head hit box which is slightly to the right. Your initial shot was not perpendicular to the wall. Nice try though.

[burnsy96]

Its bigger when your running

[b2o4e]

huntsman NEEDS this hitbox, without it it would be impossible to kill anything with it.

[RoosterCogburnPhD]

@b2o4e What about skill, man?

[b2o4e]

@RoosterCogburnPhD

hunts man is hard enough to use on its own. yea you can spam it into hordes of enemies and get kills but you can do the same thing with any other projectile weapons.

look at the direct hit, it EXPLODES on contact, isnt affected by gravity,dosent need to be charged, can crit,does more damage, can be shot while moving, and can be used to rocket jump.

soldier has 200 hp, is much faster, and has better weapons than the sniper.

only advantage huntsman has is headshots.

[Draknfyre]

@b2o4e

You think the Soldier is faster than the Sniper? The Soldier is the third slowest class in the game. The Sniper runs faster. Solider moves at 80% speed.

[b2o4e]

@Draknfyre

soldier can rocket jump and get to places faster than sniper AND can move while he shoots.

[Draknfyre]

@b2o4e

He still has a slower base moving speed than the Sniper. If that's the case then I can say the Heavy is fast when using the GRU, since he gets as fast as the Scout.

[b2o4e]

@Draknfyre

base speed dosent matter much when you have medics t hat can heal you and medkits.

the sniper can barely move when he shoots the bow and is a easy target.

and heavy/scout dont even matter.

so.

the soldier can move to combat faster AND is more mobile in combat while having a better weapon and more hitpoints

soldier wins.

end of discussion.

[Draknfyre]

@b2o4e

We're not talking about combat potential, I frankly don't give a shit if a Soldier can take a Sniper on head-to-head, face-to-face and win.

You said "is much faster than the Sniper". no, he's not. We're not talking about the Huntsman, we're not talking about a Medic combo, we're talking speed. You are comparing two different classes with two different purposes. Find that Sniper when he runs away from your ass around corners. Without the Equalizer and being hurt.

[ReesesChannel]

WAAYYY too many annotations!

[assasination0sam]

i love that :D it isnt even fixed

[Rawbutbull]

huntsman is like a rocket launcher for sniper, execpt for less ammo, no splash damage, 1 shot 1 reload, charge and sniper has lower health.

if there were no similar hitbox, (like the one in the video) the huntsman would be the worst weapon ever to kill with.

atleast for the sniper

[ENDORPHINSAM]

Maybe, because of lag, the arrow goes in a different place then the other players see. :00

[suggestions8]

"Ignore these yellow boxes"

Those are blue...

[AntiRiku9]

Oh god, the left-handedness

[flamecow]

no.. the arrow just shoots to the right at that close of range...

[HaaraaldEriksson]

I still don´t see any reason to prefer the huntsman against the good ol´ sniper rifle.

[coakster3]

Do people still play this on ps3?

[TheRomanPraetorian78]

@coakster3 some do on xbox. i'm guessing ps3 too

[RupertAndCheese]

Very informative!

[MrLulzPwned]

OUR ENEMIES HIDE IN METAL BAWKSES!!! sorry, Just wanted to say that...

[Irodio]

@MrLulzPwned TEH COWARDS!

TEH FEWLS!

[Tr0tim]

However, if the Huntsman uses projectile hitboxes, how do they know if it's a headshot? Do they just ask if the arrow hits the highest... quarter of the projectile hitbox?

[HvCTerr]

@Tr0tim :

Presumably, although there's nothing stopping Valve from having a second slightly-smaller "huntsman headbox" inside the main volume, and testing if the arrow would have entered it.

@sadysadycool :

Unfortunately they removed several of the commands I used to make the video, probably because people misunderstood what it did and (wrongly) complained that it showed the game had bad hitboxes. Try using sv_showlagcompensation and firing a single bullet while looking at a bot.

[mattbru2]

@Tr0tim

I would asume it would just check to see if its planted in a part called Head.

the player model has all the parts labbeled.

but I dont realy know

[sadysadycool]

how can i make to see the hitboxes in-game?

[luigiluigix2]

@sadysadycool lol that'd be a hack in itself using hitboxes in a game :P

[TheLazysketcher]

Just as the heavys ability to shoot through walls.

[Gargomon251]

and people still complain about the "lucksman"

[SnarfTheHoovySlayer]

I think huntsmens a pretty cool guy eh? Handicaps bad players and doesnt afraid of anything.

[Gargomon251]

@SnarfTheHoovySlayer doing it wrong. There is no question mark.

"I think huntsman is a pretty cool guy. Eh handicaps bad players and doesn't afraid of anything"

[ItamiBukoto]

EASY MODE!

[ifhgsfj]

LUCKSMAN

[lukey963]

cry some moarrrrrr........ so what if its a tiny bit out... it makes up for having to deal with getting killed by a random crit 2 metres away from a spamming soldier or demo....

[HeadphoneHalo]

So spamming is justified by the fact that other classes spam too?

[lukey963]

Yep!

[JAG82287]

God forbid the sniper has to aim right?

[muninen]

tell me,exactly in how many videos have you said the same thing?

[KawaiiBacon]

@lukey963 Aww them random crits, so cute in pub amirite?

[thebossfight]

i would guess the hitboxes moved since he became pinned to the wall.

[PhysgunMaster]

what console commands are these?

[legendofthefox]

sv_drawhitboxes 1 or something, sv_cheats has to be enabled

[Jijo233]

crickey

[teranyan]

its probably a server cvar stupid...

[JuhnaNemiko]

How did you swap arms for the Huntsman?

[Shotoran]

he didnt really swap

see right now

the huntsman is on the right side

but this vid was made in june

and like thats when the huntsman got realeased or something and valve made the huntsman on the left side but do to complaints about the huntsman on the left side they changed it after an update which is now

[Foogle6594]

flip view models, click the advanced in the multiplayer tab in options

[PresidentBagel]

Stupid noob comment.

[TheSchimmi]

People need to understand hitboxes more. Especially (sniper rifle + hitboxes) + (lag +moving into cover) = illusion of hacking

[dirtybirdy231]

should have known

i get headshotted as a scout with this thing wayyyyyy too often

[SuperDawgE]

thought so. thanks for the demonstration

[Mysterbyg]

That's some shawnky business right there...

[SirSalahad]

If this ain't sarcasm, you can now see youself hated by me.

[19911014]

Yep, sarcasm, if the last line wasn't obvious enough for some people

[arcticf0x8]

Hey! Your that one guy on the Steam forums :D

[BMXFiT2007]

sv_showhitboxes I think it is. I was using it the other day for the rifle.

[lazyleapstabbin]

what is the script or console commands to bring up the hitboxes, I know its sv_cheats 1, I would like to do more testing

[MessinWithSATAN]

that's fail, the hitboxes need to be reduced

[GhostZero887]

The hitbox is necessary because otherwise it'd be too hard to hit even at close range. The spamming arguement doesn't really work because you can't do a good shot without charging.

[Glacies12]

It takes 0.5 secs to charge a shot that will go strait. The hit boxes at close range should be reduced or the damage should be reduced at very close range.

[rofl208]

I hope you at least realize that, even tho the hitboxes work fine since the arrow is being considered a projectile, it should not work like that. You're not supposed to hit with arrows this easily, and this is easily proved in game where noob snipers like me can easily farm some points by either spamming arrows or having useless aim.

[SchoolhouseTechno]

I equate using the huntsman to doing nothing but going for bodyshots as a regular sniper. A player good with the huntsman will never be as good as someone good with a rifle.

The enemy can also dodge arrows. Maybe the huntsman needs to give a laser dot anyway, so that way people have a chance to know when they are being targeted and dodge arrows.

[ultraanime]

the huntsman is supposed to be the more challenging weapon for the sniper, the reason why the hitbox is that is cuz its a projectile and it would be way too hard to hit if it wasnt like that when i played with sniper rifle i got many headshots but when i try the bow i dont get as many headshots as then

[PwnPirate]

You mean aside from the fact that the huntsman has a much wider hitbox. Did you even watch the video?