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  • I am a FreeMason and like it a lot, it is a matter of finding good brothers, I have.

  • Wow, so much anti-Masonsa. Im not a Mason but believe everything made public that Masons stand for. I done a lot of research on the history of FreeMasonry and I suggest doing the same before you people open you mouth and slam something that you dont understand

  • Do members have to pay to advance?

  • I am a first degree and my friend is a 32 degree mason and we found no evil in our lodges. Nutcases think Lucifer is our god and he is in the lodge. Comes to think of it, he probably is lol. I had to scare all of you for a second! First of all, you people don't even understand what "Lucifer" means. Study it's meaning and history and all your fears will disappear and your fears about Feemasonry will also disappear.

  • I am a FreeMason. If we are soooooooo powerful then why am I so near losing my home because I cant pay the mortgage? If we are sooooo evil then why do we believe in God? If we there is a conspiracy to take over the world where is the proof. Dont tell me Im wrong...PROVE IT!

  • google cabal. peace

  • can some one please re-explain What do templars have to do with masonory

  • @ShreddyMan did you even watch this video???? it tells you the exact steps to the templars.

  • I LOVE IT...

  • 2B1 ASK1

  • Thanks for that, sir. I've been wanting to join for years now and I think it's time.

  • @rontrevy i just got word back that my application for the masons has been accepted, and that i will be initiated in a few weeks.. i am soo excited

  • Freemasonry is one of the GREATEST fraternities in the WORLD!!!!

  • I'm becoming a freemason when I turn 18

  • @MannyO1995 So am I :)

  • So...does this mean when the mason gets to a certain degree (order) he can have the ineffable name of God? You kinda blew right past that and that's HUGE!

  • @kellann55 Nope. He can DISCOVER the ineffable name of God. You kinda blew right past that yourself.

  • @kellann55 you, he must experience it, then he feels the name of god inside

  • fantastic video.. preach it kilox

  • The Ark and the Thora are in Tell Hesban close to mount Nebo.

    There are two pillars underground each with 13 stones....

    ).(

  • How can I be a mason? can someone teach me? Where to register? I'm here in Philippines.

  • @faithlessaura Locate your nearest lodge via phonebook or google.

    If I remember correctly The philippines do have lodges

  • @faithlessaura Though One thing to take note, Some lodges require a Fellow mason to ask if you can join.

    Look out for something similar to " ToBe1Ask1 "

  • @faithlessaura there are so many masonic lodges in the philippines, the grand lodge is the Graciano Lopez Jaena Lodge...most of our heroes are masons, like Rizal, Bonifacio, del Pilar, etc, in fact our KATIPUNAN is founded by 6 masons.......but since you are female, you must either join Rainbow or Jobs Daughters, its the equivalent of Order of DeMolay(they are all masonic); wive's of Mason sorganized themselves as Order of The Eastern Star

  • @goatherd666 Actually that is not true. There are women masons. It depends which order you are talking about...And if you travel outside US you will be very hard pressed to find Rainbow girls or Eastern Star. That is just the american version for women.

  • @sarissaki no, there are not women who are legitimate masons. there are female masons but they are not recognized by any official grand lodge. if you knew anything about masonry, i.e. the fact that it first and foremost a FRATERNITY, you would know it is impossible for a woman to be a mason.

  • @DeerParkNewsWire Well, what you call official Grand Lodge may not be recognized anywhere else. I found out that US masonry is quite different from Continental, in regards to race and sex. I have talked to some women masons, and from what I was able to find out, they differ in nothing from their american counterparts. They are legit eveywhere else.

  • @DeerParkNewsWire sorry it took me so long to answer this post. I checked with UGLE and some other organizations. What I got is that most orders or organizations, like UGLE, recognize these women as regular in their practice of the craft, but have no communication with then as this would oppose their obligations. Plus women do a lot of esoterical stuff that men here may not even be aware that is part of the craft. That said, I have applied for admittance to a european order.

  • god bless my fellow brothers .

  • After reading some of these comments I am surprised to see so many people who do not know history. To the people who believe Jacques De Molay renounced Christianity you would be wrong. The Pope signed his death warrant had him tortured and burnt at the stake just to please the French king. As for Catholics and masonry, I was raised a Catholic but when I found out the it is grave sin (no communion not excommunication) to be a mason I stopped practicing. Why be Catholic and not get communion?

  • @stitestj Where did Jesus ever say it wasn't OK to be a Mason?

  • Great explanation of the York Rite. Very informative for this newly made Knight.

  • Why does Erykah Badu have the Royal Arch Manson symbol on her chest & on the cover of her new album???

  • If YOU are a Freemason, please try to break your indoctrination, Everyone can be illuminated without the hierarchy control. What hierarchy brings: Fluoridation, GMO food, Armenian Genocide, Bolshivisim, WWI,WWII, Holocaust HOAX, Korean war, Vietnam war, JFK / RFK / MLK assassination, U.S.S. Liberty attack, Tavistock Institute to BrainWash the world, Fabian Society. *** A great movie tip: Dr. Strange Love - Stanley Kubrick.

    Learn the Trivium Quadrivium and wake up. best wishes...d

  • @letsgomd Yes, by all means, use Dr. Strangelove as a way to shore up your loony conclusions. Recall that Jack D. Ripper was insane.

  • @FrumiousBander I agree Jack thhe Ripper. Theres to many looneytunes on Youtube.

  • @letsgomd That is absolutely adorable.

  • @letsgomd If you want to know all you need is to join. You too can know these secrets. I can tell you, if you are looking for something “Hollywood’ish” and mystic you will go home disappointed

  • Great video, cowans and eavesdroppers will never understand

  • after i receive the sumblime ill be traveling to the red house June 28th will be my sublime! EXCITED

  • This info doesnt seem right..the knights of malta were a different order then the templars..and there is records that say they even engaged in combat from time to time,and another thing is grand master Jaques de molay renouced christianity and died for it...he was the last known grand master of the templars before they went into secrecy in 1307..i could go on about solomons temple but i rather not,it appears that theres a conspiracy going on within freemasonary which should disturb some members.

  • @BoutDatDolla he renouced christianaity or the catholic faith? two very different things there. they ar not synonomous. 

  • @BoutDatDolla Where do you get your "history?" You need to read some reputable sources. DeMolay did NOT renounce his Christianity. He renounced his tortured confession of heresy, and that's why he was condemned to death. It is true that the Masonic chivalric orders do mangle the actual history between the Knights of St John (eventually Malta) and the Templars. And there is no conspiracy within Freemasonry that disturbs it members.

  • Could those who believe Masonry is Jewish, why are there the Christian Degrees, such as Rose Croix, Knight Templar and Red Cross of Constantine

  • @swingfire0011 Blue Lodge Freemasonry is open to men of all faiths, as are the Scottish Rite, Royal Arch and Cryptic Council. Only the Templars require a belief in Christianity.

  • @FrumiousBander Will said Companion..From an English Conpanion

  • I am from Kuwait and I want to become a Freemason and I want one help me

  • @amoola2011 That will be very difficult in the Kingdom, I'm afraid. Islamic theocracies pretty much outlaw Freemasonry.

  • Great video! ^_^

  • I've always wanted to join the Freemasons. For the bast 4 years I've been looking forward to it. I have just less than a year to wait in order to join my local masonic lodge. But I've talked to my church about it and they've gone as far as to say they are devil worshipers. Which angered me because I have adult friends, who are like my brothers, who are mason and they are by no means devil worshipers. I'm afraid if I join the Masons I'll be excommunicated. What should I do?

  • @ItzMeCasey what church the catholic church no longer ex communicates Masons they used to along time ago though I have several catholic brothers

  • @ItzMeCasey Join them! No church can impose something if you know for yourself that what they say is not true. If you are a Catholic, you should know though tthat the excommunication order still stands. You have to decide

  • @sarissaki no it dosn't there are several Catholic brothers you are misinformed if you don't believe me don't look up some online garbage but rather ask a priest you will get your answer I know we have a priest in my lodge

  • @ItzMeCasey you have to make a very personal decision and no one on here can or should try to convince you one way or the other. i can tell you i was skeptical before i joined and took my time to learn all i could. coming up to my first year now as a master mason, i can tell you there is nothing in my lodge that compramises my faith at all. it really is nothing like anything you hvae joined but it is also nothing like these foolish people say against it either.

  • @ItzMeCasey

    Don't let ignorance of masonry stop you from joining one of the great fraternal organizations of all time. I'm reared a Catholic and enjoy the brotherhood tremendously.

  • @ItzMeCasey Any church that labels Freemasons as "devil worshippers" is just plain wrong. If it were me, I'd find a new church. Churches are human institutions, not divine ones. Find a new congregation that espouses the love of your faith, and does not perpetuate falsehood and hatred.

  • I have had all the light that can be conferred on me in the blue house, I am ready for more light in masonry, and this looks like the way to go. Thanks for posting this video wish there were more like it!

  • I want to be called super-excellent one day. :]

  • I haven't even petitioned yet and I'm already excited to join the York Rite.

  • This was absolutely Beautiful! Thanks! S.M.I.B. I am a young(er) mason (BroSec of a Blue Lodge), I was clothed a yr ago. I am continuing my travels east! Red house is next....This was more than informative! I will re-post this on FB for those Squares coming behind me!

  • @MEBiddy They made you Secretary after a year? That's cruel and unusual punishment, Brother, no matter how you slice it!

  • @FrumiousBander Wow our WB Sec has been there for 5 years and noone is stepping up to the plate.

  • @FrumiousBander Happened to me too!

  • @FrumiousBander in the same boat; i might be brother secretary after next year. 

  • Very informative

  • How comes the most powerful people on earth are Masons and are also known to manage their wealth egoistically and causing so much damage to the world?..obiusly the elite has ALL the means to create a better world...but they don't i am completly deceptioned with what I have seen in masonery.just some brotherhood and basic esoterical studies and yes many achieve personal virtues..but the worldy vaule is lost. I think they are used..I have studied Masonery several years now and in the end,no thanks

  • @astarotcito Interesting how non-Masons claim to have special knowledge and insight into something they have no firsthand experience with. If you can make the blanket statement that "the most powerful people on earth are Masons and are also known to manage their wealth egoistically and causing so much damage to the world," then you clearly do not know what you are talking about.

  • 'Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end "

    -Rabbi Isaac Wise

    "Masonry is based on Judaism.

    Eliminate the teaching of Judaism from the Masonic ritual and what is left?"

    -The Jewish Tribune of New York, October 28th 1927

  • @StSimonMartyr this is mostly true and your point is? as christians we read an study both the old and new testements. what's the problem???

  • @FrumiousBander FreeMasonry doesn't need to be defended Bro, it speaks for itself. Let the ignorants stay ignorant, the wonderers keep wondering, and the fearful, keep on fearing.

  • symbolism it's everywhere.

  • I'm sure most everyone has heard of the Knights of Columbus. I'm sure they have their RITUALS and secrets but you never hear much critcism about them...I just wonder why its ok to have secret rituals as a KofC but satanic or anti christ if you're a freemason. 40 years as AF&AM, KCCH, & KT. PM, and dog gone proud of it.

  • @Leaselw Pardon me, but aren't the Knights of Columbus a catholic organization? That is why you do not hear bad things. On the other hand, I believe free masons are persecuted because they will not align with a specific church. I am thinking of becoming one, because I believe in free thought.

  • @sarissaki

    The Catholic Church historically has been against its members joining the Masons precisely because it felt that Mason wold undermine papal authority because of its (Masonic) secrets. This is just not the case. There is no conflict with Masonry and being a believing Catholic.

  • Much appreciated, this is a great introduction for candidates!

  • lol. my great grandfather emigrated from york, and was a freemason... crazy. only found out after he left his safe full of records and medallions.

  • yea but

    we throw killer parties though

    

  • @bryanthebarber see my channel

  • while i am not in the york rite (yet), i can tell you as a master mason that there is nothing to fear from members of the FRATURNITY. it might sounds ultra-secretive and elusive but that is intended to keep with tradition. it is NO different than any other fraturnity or sorority in that it has traditions only the members are aware of. albert pike is NOT freemasonry, only someone who wrote out his own interpretation of it. have you seen how many people interpret books? are they evil?

  • Its good to see the masonic progression presented like this.

    As an English mason I am very aware of not seeing the full picture.

    Sincerly and fratternally I thank you.

  • Cool

  • i'm not good in english, so can some1 explain to me what Freemasonry is?

  • To the people who dont know what freemasonry is its a fraternity,it provides an opportunity for men to meet and enjoy friendly companionship.it encourages goodwill toward all mankind, It promotes self improvement.Freemasonry teach the basic principles of brotherly love, charity, and truth which Masons are encouraged to practice in their daily lives.

  • @niggahflip What language should we attempt to explain it to you in?

  • This seems like a very in-depth and interesting organization. I am curious to see its underlying purpose. Could someone please explain it to me?

    I'm don't do well with semantics.  I would prefer the explanation to be as frank as possible.

  • @3rdWorldUnite Read Chris Hodapp's "Freemasons For Dummies" or Brent Morris' "Complete Idiot's Guide To Freemasonry." Both are frank introductions to Freemasonry and its appendant organizations.

  • @FrumiousBander The Complete Idiot's Guide was one of the most interesting and informative reads on Freemasonry. Very Comprehensive and accessible

  • @3rdWorldUnite It's mostly a fraternity that seeks to do good. I swear that is the brunt of it. They strive to make good men better. The only secrets they have are modes of recognition... secret handshakes and such so that masons can recognize each other. Any other mysticisms that you may be worried about are only implied by people that have not looked into it and are jealous of the club. They don't realize that they could join themselves to see the truth.

  • @3rdWorldUnite We're a men's social and charitable organization that promotes morality, patriotism, faith, and tolerance through our rituals and degree work. In the past, in some countries, we were an extremely powerful political force -- we played major/leading roles in the Italian Unification, the French Revolution, and the American Revolution -- but these days we're apolitical.

    We're good guys who do good things. Nothing more and no less than that.

  • @richcapo Excuse me, I would like to make a comment. You certainly described US masonry accurately, but has it ever occured to you that things might be different around the world? Every mason I talked to in Europe, considers masonry a philosophical and esoteric system that has as its purpose the betterment of mankind. When I told them something like what you wrote, they looked at me like I was from another planet. What is going on? Why has it changed here?

  • @sarissaki The video was specifically created for the Grand Commandery of Knights Templar in Indiana, so it was designed to have a very narrow focus.

  • @sarissaki European appendant degrees developed differently. Thomas Smith Webb gathered the York Rite (or more accurately, the American Rite) from degrees that migrated here from Scottish, English and French sources. Some of the degrees also were altered and collected under the Scottish Rite here, eventually. In England. the Royal Arch degree remained as a 4th blue lodge degree. US Cryptic Council degrees are under the Mark Master series of degrees in England, and there is no separate Council

  • @richcapo

    That's it in a nutshell. All the Dan Brown hooey is just that.

  • @3rdWorldUnite find a Blue Lodge and petition, stick it out and then join the York Rite. We are not going to sit here and explain it all to you.  Once you join, you will learn all you wish to learn.

  • @3rdWorldUnite bassically back in the old old days the freemasons were a group of people who were so good with their masonary that they chose to stay a secret and comunicate with each other through symbols. 

  • @3rdWorldUnite in Freemasonry, there is the Blue Lodge, your 1st, 2nd, and 3rd degrees. The 3rd degree is the highest rank you can attain in Masonry. There are however appendant bodies (aka things you can do AS a Mason, but aren't Freemasonry itself) like York Rites, Scottish Rites, Grotto, Tall Cedars, Shrine (the last three are social clubs for Masons), and these appendant bodies basically offer more lessons through ritual and allegory (as with Blue Lodge Masonry)

  • All who have not gone this way, should prepare themselfs to go this way to complete his studyes and extend his travel to more light . PHP Van Slyke

  • that one word ruins it for me to be honest ..."ritual"

  • @rickwoodartist Oxford English Dictionary defines ritual as "a solemn ceremony consisting of a series of actions performed according to a prescribed order". This is disturbing to you?

  • @FrumiousBander liitle crazy huh, how that ruins it for him ..he probably doesn't have a daily ritual when he wakes either...pretty sad how people are quick write before they think...lol

  • @FrumiousBander People perform rituals every day. Showering, brushing their teeth, drinking their morning coffee, driving to work. Going to church every Sunday is a ritual, for the Christians here.

  • @rickwoodartist that ruins it for you? i got news for you. if you look at the devinition of a ritual youll see them all around you all the time. those rituals are actually passive (like christmas) whilest mason chose to perform them activly. nothing wrong with learning

  • @rickwoodartist I know how you feel. I have a bad reaction to words like "ritual", "church", "altar", etc. But they really are just words. Masonic "ritual" is just a ceremony with prescribed steps, that they do seriously and solemnly.

  • Good video Bro.

  • 自由、平等、博愛...

    LIBERTE・EGALITE・FRATERNITE

  • This can't be right. I thought the Knights Templars were demon and Satan worshipers. I saw that on TV so it must be true, and I watched and read Dan Browns FICTION Book and Movie The Da Vinci Code. So I know the truth!!! LOL! KIDDING!

    I have had people use that arguement and think they had some firm ground to stand on while trying to educate me on what they THINK is the truth. It is very sad indeed when most people can't carry on a conversation without talking about a TV show or movie.

  •  Its always the christians who judge the Masons. It says in the Bible " judge not les ye be judge." When the christians judge other people they are putting themselves above God. God told moses "thou shalt not put any other Gods before me" To judge (people) is a sin. Masons are always honest and always tell the truth. Christians put themselves above their God and believe he will forgive them. I would trust a Mason before I trusted a self proclaimed christian.

  • @wiremannotfireman wow that is deep...as a Master Mason I can truly appreciate your point of view

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  • Any Freemason interested in further light in Freemasonry, and on CHRISTIAN

    values should, and I encourage you to watch this video clip!!, consider your further Masonic development, and Brotherly love and friendship in joining the YORK RITE!!! IT is a JOURNEY YOU WILL NEVER REGRET!!

  • ANTI MASON NUTS! KEEP IT UP BECAUSE OUR MEMBERSHIP IS ON THE RISE BECAUSE OF YALL!!!!!! I HAVE ASKED SOME OF THE NEW PETITIONERS WHAT GOT THEM INTERESTED AND THEY SAID YOU TUBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAKE MORE VIDEOS! YOU ARE HELPING WAY MORE THAN YOU ARE HURTING! THERE IS NO BAD PUBLICITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!! WE LAUGH AT YALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REPOST IF YOU ARE A MASON!!!!!!! MASONS UNITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!

  • @steeler7475787905 It's funny that I knew about masons from "Anti-Masons" but I knew that they were good and aren't Lucifer worshipers. I did my research and found out that masons being devil worshipers is total bullshit. I really hate that "Anti-Masons lie and make stuff up and idiots believe them. I guess almost all people are idiots and not freethinkers. I would like to be a mason some day. I don't know what rite to join. I thinking about joining the York rite and them a Knight Templar. 

  • @MegaPeople45 You must be a 3rd. Degree Master Mason in an AF and AM Blue Lodge before you can take the York or Scottish Rites.

  • @MegaPeople45 The York Rite begins in the local Symbolic Lodge. To join a man must ask for a petition from a local/area Masonic Lodge. If you live in the USA, google the Grand Lodge of your state and G.L. will help you make contact.

  • @templar2b1ask Well, you see, that's where I got confused. There are many different orders and disciplines. Not all of them under the same GL. There are american and european orders, Prince Hall and mixed lodges, etc. How would you sort through all these?Not to mention, not all GL recognize each other. Which ones are legit?

  • if we equate hiram abiff to the jesus allegory, how can one dismiss the plea Is there no help for the widows son? -peace and love unto you

  • at last some sensible comments about masonry

  • hey,your channel is awesome ;D neo...

  • sir hi there.. i would simply want to know the full title of the book that was written by Albert Pike..

    @mads18 dude the man's right.. try to read it further.. but still, the luciferian doctrine became very close related to freemasonry because of the influence of distinguished people like jacques de molay and others.. LOL ^^

  • @kevinkevin04 "Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite Freemasonry" (1871) is the one usually referenced. Pike wrote prolifically. Look up "Bibliography of the writings of Albert Pike: prose, poetry, manuscript By William Llewellyn Boyden" for a complete list of his writings. It's 74 pages long.

  • @kevinkevin04 Jacques DeMolay was a Great and Honorable man who did not betray his brothers, he was just and upright. faithful to his convictions until the very end. as a Member of the Order of DeMolay, a Master Mason and 32* Scottish Rite Master of the Royal Secret i am well informed of the life of Jacques DeMolay.

  • @kevinkevin04 ucifer as a god came from Leo Taxil a known conman who made money making up stories to damage freemasonry, he was kicked out while in the 1st degree.

    He is the one who made up stories of a Baphomet to the pope back in the 18 hundreds to earm more from a gullibul pope looking for a reason to rob them of their property again.

  • why is it that the knights templar are bad? again? I forgot... something about Baphomet?

  • The Masons don't want men that can't think for themselves! Freethinkers that want to find out what they really are about and are not fooled by the conspiracy theorists or nuts are exactly the people they want. No need to respond to fools. The cool thing is that many new people are joining everyday.

  • @jdlr64 AMEN.

  • When I see anti-masonic literature or videos I am always reminded of two quotes in the Bible, "Ye shall know them by their fruits." and "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." Check out the charitable works done by Freemasonry and ask yourself, is that good fruit or evil? Is helping burn victims evil? Is being kind to widows and orphans evil? Helping dyslexic children read? It looks like good fruit to me.

  • there are no secrects,open your soul,move past your up bringing,and you shall see.Behind your eyes is where sight lies.

  • Interesting ... I've always been amused by the way that off-duty accountants and corporate middle-managers confer heraldic titles upon themselves and dress in chivalric regalia to which they have no entitlement. It's a bit like World of Warcraft for the middle aged, where they're constantly drawn further and further into it by the promise of revelation of deeper and darker secrets. I feel sorry for adults who feel they have to dress up and play-act.

  • @MrAlohashirt As opposed to dressing up in "aloha shirts"? Cynicism sounds so sophisticated.

  • @FrumiousBander - Fine, sometimes I wear Hawaiian shirts. But I don't have to call myself "Prince of Jerusalem" or "Knight of the Brazen Serpent" to do so. Go back to playing your silly games, little boy.

  • @MrAlohashirt Anyone who becomes a Mason who gets "drawn further and further into it by the promise of revelation of deeper and darker secrets", or gets a swelled head over vainglorious titles, has a complete misunderstanding of the fraternity's degrees. As you seem to have.

  • Can a non-mono-theological follower (e.g. a Taoist, Polytheists etc) become a Mason?

  • @Marenqo Yes. One must only profess belief in a Supreme Being. How you define that being is entirely up to you.

  • @Marenqo short answer: no, Masons must profess a belief in *A* Supreme Being.

    Long answer: maybe, if he believes in an "overall" Supreme Being. In India, for example, Hindu men have been joining lodges since the 1850s, their beliefs being that the various Hindu deities are really only manifestations of one Supreme deity. But Masonry doesn't interfere with candidates' religious beliefs, other than to ask if they believe in a Supreme Being. If he passes that litmus test, he could petition a lodge.

  • the scottish and york rites, a tough choice between two honorable paths. great video.

  • @ThecksOfImagination It's not a choice unless it's a time conflict. The Rites are not competitive or mutually exclusive.

  • there are no secrects...

    jus do a lil research and you can figure out anything..

    the whole eye thing is not from this or that but from every culture every religion..

    eye of Ra....Inazaga's right eye of Japan.sungod of the Aztecs.Ammon.Apollo etc. etc.

    ppl call them devil worshippers becuase there traditions predate zions/christains one god....and to them...if you worship other than there christain god...well its the devil.

    even buddist are called devil worshippers

  • good to see that there are normal, reasoning people

  • tell that to the luciferian Albert Pike whom created the 33rd degree, and that writes in his only book: "this is a luciferian doctrine", lol.

  • @mads18 "Morals & Dogma" was far from his only book. Pike was hugely prolific. He mentioned Lucifer precisely once in all of his writings, and he does not say anything about a "Luciferian doctrine." He simply pointed out that "Lucifer" in Latin meant "light-bringer" (NOT Satan), and that it was ironic that the word has come to mean "Prince Of Darkness." Next time, read the actual book, instead of copying drivel from the Internet.

  • I forgot the actual quotes atm, but as far as I remember luciferian doctrine blabla was part of it, and I checked that my source was reliable (that is, it was the whole book online from a reliable book-source, and found the quotes there)

  • @mads18 You remember wrong. I own the book. It isn't there. Again, don't get your research from the Internet.

  • @mads18

    Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

    Pro 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

    Actually the whole proverb is accurate in this case, but the lack of space prevents from posting it.

    Calling someone a Luciferian because they mention Lucifer in a quote is just as bad as calling someone a Christian, for mentioning Jesus in one.

    Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord,

    You know the rest

  • enoch did not die, but walked with god. juda thomas founded the true church of christ. the temple was wrought in twain, not by the cruxifission, or the 'sin' against the flesh of god, but by the will of man! the lack of spirit that once shined when we were still in His grace, but are no longer now. 'twas a man of Quality who said: Labor to keep alive in your breast that little spark of celestial fire called conscience. Lets do indeed. Long live the brotherhood, Nowekiam Manifest!

  • This was a very informative video about the york rite. I wish youtube had more like this and less anti masonic hogwash.

  • me too...light

  • One of the least advertised facts about Free Masonry and the Masonic Lodge is its Jewish origin and nature. The religion of Judaism based on the Babylonian Talmud and the Jewish Kabbalah formed the basis for the Scottish rites 33 ritual degree ceremonies.

    "Freemasonry is a Jewish establishment, whose history, grades, official appointments, passwords and explanations are Jewish from beginning to end."

    - Rabbi Isaac Wis

  • Yeah. So is the whole of the Old Testament. Christ was a Jew, as well. What are you getting at (as if I can't tell)?

  • @FrumiousBander

    Templar I assume?

    No particular reason. It is often talked about Freemasonry and its roots in the medieval craft guilds, and that the founding fathers of the US as well as the signers of the Declaration and the Constitution where Masons. The Jewish influence of this order is rarely talked about, as if it would be negative publicity.

    Iesus Habemus Socium. In Hoc Signo.

  • As I read this I constantly remind myself that people believe what they want to. And second, as a Mason I know that so much is lost in translation. For all you non-mason, please do your research and continue to read about who we are and what we represent. Open your eyes and mind to put information onboard, but don't come to a conclusion about what you read or about the Masons.

  • Yes, you eare right about etimology of this word. My dictionary gives exactly the same and few more (among them: 'not an insider', 'blasphemer') and right under there is "profanation" - desecration of place or object of a cult; violation, pollution of something that is worshiped. in my language this word is negatively coloured and describes a person who wants to invade the temple not a uninitiated one.

  • thanks for fast reply.

    You are right about the etymology of word 'profane', but profane is an english word with latin origin and the contemporary meaning is "not an insider", 'not initiated one", "blasphemer", 'ignorant', 'laic(according to my dictionary) and "profanation" means 'desecration/violation/polluti­on of the place of cult'. Mayby i felt offended because in my language word profane has strictly negative meaning.

    thanks for your time

    br

    PS. I am neither a friend nor an enemy of fmasonry

  • To Furmious:

    I heard a lot of good things about freemasonery (some bad things too), but I dont understand why you freemasons call ordinary people a profane? For me it means that freemasons are sacrum and non-freemasons are profanum. Are you sacred and we are blasphemous? In my opinion it is not kind to call people that way. Could you clarify?

  • Profane comes from the Latin pro fano, "in front of the temple", or "outside of the temple". If you get past the more common definitions of 'contempt for the sacred' and 'vulgar,' it also means "Not admitted into a body of secret knowledge or ritual; uninitiated." (American Heritage).

    The Oxford English Dictionary says much the same thing: "Not initiated into the religious rites or sacred mysteries; not participating in or admitted to some esoteric knowledge; uninitiated, 'lay', Philistine."

  • Frumious, please tell me why you (freemasons) call a non-freemason a profane? This is rude.

    For me it means that freemasons are sacrum and ordinary people are profanum.

    Are you sacred and we(non-freemasons) are blasphemous?

    I am not trying to attack your beliefs, I heard alot of good things about freemasonery (also some bad things), but in my opinion this is not kind to call people profanes.

    br

    PS. Sorry for my english

  • God's Will requires no defense.

  • MASON FROM FLORIDA HERE!

  • Hpefully the poster wont block my comments

  • No, I wouldn't block your comments. They are so appallingly ignorant, uninformed, imaginary, deranged, juvenile, paranoid and insulting, they need to be seen by everyone.

  • The truth Hurts dont it frumious? Hahaha

  • No, not a bit. And if there was any truth in what SoCalize was saying, I'd point it out.

  • The greatest secret of freemasonry is king solomon. There was no king solomon. What there was, was the kings of solomon. Sol is latin for the sun, and om is the old indian way for worshiping the sun, and on is the old egyptian city of on, the city of the sun. So sol-om-on means three kings of the sun god The treasures of solomon are the treasures of the kings of solomon. Three kings buried their treasures in bethlehem, the three wise men. This is the most closely guarded secret of freemasonry.

  • It's such a secret that no Freemason has ever heard this drivel.

  • @macktheknife888 Wrong....King Solomon existed and fell out of grace with God. simple.  stop lying or you are mistaken and should improve your researching skill

  • That's not the way God tells the story.

  • @macktheknife888

    Study the Legend of Hiram Abiff (the son of a widow and the chief architect of the King Solomon Temple) and the Egyptian connection, Osiris and the Tyrian Architect (Isianic Mysteries). One of the most guarded secrets is the Grand Masonic Word, or the name of God (the "ineffable name"), that is said to be "lost". According to the Cabala, when knowing a spirits true name, you can evoke it's powers, for example the Evil Eye (EnHara).

    I trust this comment will be removed.