Davy Graham - She moves through the Fair (1962)

[RichWrightFloyd19]

Page put some speed to this song, he made it so much better. I love White Summer bettter than she moved through the Fair. Page added a lot of his own skill to the song and plus he never played this song the same way twice. We also have to remember that he never released the White Summer track until the 1994 box set, although it was recorded before that.

Love the 1970 Royal Albert Hall version of White Summer, Page at his best.

[RussianBabyExcercise]

*retard voice* DUHHH, DIS GUY COPIED JIMMY PAGES SONG FROM DUH SEVENTIES! AND BERT JANSCH STOLE HIS BLACK MOUNTAIN SONG

[gremby]

AMAZING,LSD.

[sunlitporch]

@booksteve Martin Carthy excepted. I'm still a fan of J Renbourn and B Jansch. I've seen and heard lots of their recorded concerts but there's usually either vague or lack of mention of Davey, the one who really inspired and educated those cats in many ways.

[morse1883]

I don't know who 'stole' what from whom, but Davy Graham was certainly [I believe] in a class of his own...a musical genius who made making beautiful music seem so effortless.

[Aviv52]

Some misinformation here. Jansch and Renbourn ALWAYS credited Davey Graham. On the other hand Jimmy Page ripped off DG, Jansch, Willie Dixon Anne Bredon et al. Paul Simon credited Davey Graham with Anji, but ripped off Martin Carthy's arrangement of Scarborough Fair.

[sunlitporch]

@Aviv52 Ture, Jimmy was a more serious offender in this regard..but all the lads you mentioned put their own name to Davey's version, whether we like it or not.

[sumerisle]

the best of the best , total musical voyage , sounds almost oriental at times , god like

[sunlitporch]

They stole it all from Davey Graham, Jansch, Page, Renbourn, Paul Simon, et al. None gave him credit, especially when hard times befell Davey - none gave a damn. But Davey Graham was the one who came up with DADGAD and transcribed all those perennial pieces from Celtic and British folk for guitar, and Davey came up with the fingerstyle technique which defined the Folk Baroque movement of the 60's. to his credit, Martin Carthy also stands out as original and sincere.

[stiffex]

@sunlitporch sorry to disagree with you m8 but you can remove Bert Jansch from your list because he told stories of Davey Graham and fully respected his influence on his own style by crediting him every time he played a piece of his. Ive seen Bert Jansch a number of times and Davey Graham was always credited during the session.

Davey Grahams hard times were self inflicted, in fact all these guys had demons, Jansch chose grog while Graham chose scag. Jansch also helped promo his recent comeback

[stiffex]

@stiffex Bert Jancsh credited Davey Graham as being his biggest influence even relating stories of being taught how to play by Davy`s sister.

Now that Bert and Davey have passed away within a couple of years of each other, they will add to the heavenly chorus no doubt.

R.I.P both of them .......... Bert died a couple of days ago very sad...

[sunlitporch]

@stiffex thanks for filling in the gaps..do you know where i might find a concert recording or video with Bert crediting Davey for his authorship of his idiosyncratic arrangements of those pieces, such as She Moves Through the Fair?

[stiffex]

@sunlitporch A Bert Jansch documentary about 10 years ago called `Dreamweaver` gave some detail of DG s influence. I dont think BJ is the sort of person to just go ahead and rip off someone elses stuff because these guys all had a reverential respect for each others work, so etiquette would ensure they asked and gave permission to each other. BJ certainly didnt like it when Paul Simon nicked one of his tunes.

[sunlitporch]

@stiffex Thanks very much for tip - I look forward to checking out out the documentary. At the end of the day, Bert Jansch, Davey Graham, John Renbourn, Martin Carthy have all made monumental contributions to the world of music, and their musical genius will continue to inspire others for generations to come.

[welcome2myhell]

@sunlitporch yeah and he stole it from the Middle eastern musicians. Whaddyagonna do eh?

[sunlitporch]

@welcome2myhell Davey Graham transcribed and arranged this from other ethnic sources, then created his own version on guitar by developing an open tuning guitar hitherto unknown..that's not the same as copying someone else's arrangement note for note and calling it one's own.

[welcome2myhell]

@sunlitporch I understand what you're saying but Page didn't rip anything off my essentially sampling a few bars here and there of classics. Hell from some of the comments on this thread you'd think Zep recorded an entire song with no credits smh

[186kms]

@sunlitporch You know of what you speak…

[RumbleFiish]

Jimmy Page stole this too..? :(

[rudygetsplenty]

@RumbleFiish Stole the thought out of my brain. I've loved White Summer for years, sigh...

[dmaavrigdo]

A brain the size of a planet!

[fivethumbsfrank]

This guy was a genius way ahead of his time, He stands alongside the likes of Robert Johnson for His groundbreaking unique use of the guitar, incredible when you consider this was 1962!

[5hawnK3lly]

so happy i found this place.