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  • where are the wings of this plane????

  • I just had an eargasm!

  • Can you imagine having to drive one of these beasts? Good lord it must have been terrifying!

  • it took real driver to drive these care. 500+ hp and no electronics, im not saying its easier to drive today's cars, but it to real skill to drive the 1930 racers.

  • that´s some serious german car engineering!

  • You are ***ing kidding. AWESOME!

  • And its a replica made in england

  • I wonder what we would have seen in 1940-1941-1942 in Grand Prix racing had there never been a WW2.

    I have a hunch they might have developed stuff we didn't see until the 60's and 70's.

    Not until the turbo era in the 80's did we see this much power in Grand Prix racing. That era was specatacular too.

  • @AlexDeLarge90 Well, what you have seen in the turbo era in F1 would appear in the '40 in Grand-Prix racing. And after that we would literally see rockets with wheels on the racetrack.

  • OH MY FUCKING GOD. What a firebreathing monster this car is! Pre-war drivers were nothing but fucking HEROES.

  • Wow! - What music. I bet most of those mechanics from that era went deaf. Pre ear - defenders.

  • Fantastic!

  • Man that's a cool sound....when this old lady starts talking, listen up!

  • whoa that car is a monster!!!

  • my Aunt Analisa watched these cars race in the 30's at Neurbergring

  • Omg shes lucky really want to see them or the mercedes silber pfeil could be cool to see them in the in their own time

  • @moosiah sorry for correcting you but it´s called Nürburgring

  • Its not important who beats who.

    be happy to watch this great footage!

    no matter if mercedes win, the auto union car is still great engeneering!

  • Agreed.

  • magnifique sound..!!

  • awesome!! anybody know how to make that into a ring tone?

  • wooooooooooooooooooooooooooow!­!!!!!!!!!!

  • I am driving a AUDI S4+ i loved the V5 motors for AUDI but when i HEARED and SEEN this SUPER CAR in INGOLSTADT at 100 AUDI i had tears in my eays this is a must see for every car buff the you tube file is good but real live ooooooooooooohhhhh my god no words

  • you "heared" what?! the tears in your eyes were probably form "heareing" so much

    And another little detail: none generation of the S4 Audi had a V5

  • The Soviet Army, during their invasion of Germany in WW2, stole one of these cars & had it shipped back to the Soviet Union for reverse engineering. The Soviet engineers were no match for the German engineers though, & could not produce a similar vehicle. During the 1950's, when Audi wasn't selling cars to the public, they made their first all-wheel drive vehicle, German police cars. Audi's experience with that helped in developing the high-performance Quattro all wheel drive system in 1979.

  • well fact is Mercedes had already beaten Auto Union in 1937, 1938 and 1939 in circuit racing and arguably had the better cars

    as it was nobody really believed in the rear engined racecar after WW2, until Cooper were successful with them in F3 and later revolutionized Formula 1.

    since the Soviets hardly cared for motorracing at all, I find it hard to believe they wanted to reverse engineer an old Auto Union (instead of a Mercedes)

    rear engined cars are hardly practical, Tatra, Corvair..

  • I agree that Mercedes did win some races later in the 1930's.  But up to 1937, the Auto Union (Audi) racers were winning races against Mercedes and also broke the land speed record which stood for quite a few years.

    "rear engined cars are hardly practical"? You mean like Porsche? They don't seem impractical to me.

  • Yes they did, but the Auto Union C-type was tricky to handle to say the least, and some hillclimb races they used double rear tyres to get decent grip. Bernd Rosemeyer, a former motorcycle racer, was one of the few who could handle it, and maybe because he came from motorcycle racing and was used to little grip.

    Tatras were quick but were tricky in curves, and let's not mention the Corvair. Porsche 911 was indeed undrivable for ordinary drivers, and were "impractical". Rear engined cars are..

  • Porsche had some 40 years to hone the usually twitchy characteristics of their 911. The first one that was "civilized" enough to be driven by normal drivers was the 993 model of the mid 90's.

    There's a reason few manafacturers had rear engined cars. Mid-engines on the other hand seems to be the optimal configuration for supercars.

    The Porsche 928 was the first "practical" Porsche in my opinion, and it's still underrated.

    The Audi Quattro was a revolution in rallying all right.

  • Oh my god!!! I love these pre WW2 cars! A lot of cylinders, huge power and great sound ...

  • what a monssster!!!!!

  • if only those things could've had a better centre of gravity and make the car not so hard to drive. if they could've make the engine position work as it was clearly a genius idea, it could've thrashed mercedes...

  • Actually, the Auto Union Type C went on to dominate auto racing in the 1930's. They also set land speed records for their time as well. Ferdinand Porsche, developer of Porchse Automobiles helpled in building these cars. Ironically, VW's former Chairman (till 2002) & Audi's former Chairman is Ferdinand Piëch, the nephew of Ferdinand Porsche. The Porchse and Audi/VW families are very close, with majority of ownership of shares held by them, why Audi's & Porchse were sold together in the US.

  • It did for a while... despite the bad handling qualities.

  • I don't mean to be nit picky, awsome sound for sure. But shouldn't safety rules require that some-one be in the cockpit when the engine is started ?

  • they chalk the tires apply a brake and the car isnt in gear not danger of it moving and if it does the engine is in the back cant get run over by it.

  • Nuvolari was one of the greatest ever.

    Fangio was the man though.

  • One of those great if not the greatest Auto Union driver was Tazio Nuvolari.

  • i prefer Rosemeyer.

  • what a wonderful, awesome beast, it must have taken courage en masse to not only handle but drive it as fast as you could! No brakes, no tires, bad road-behaviour, lots of hp and torque - bravehearts behind the steering wheel.

  • man this is what i call a classic Supercar

  • It was a Grand Prix racecar of 1936 and although it still has better power-to-weight ratio than most supercars today it wasn't road legal in the 1930's

    still driving a 520hp V16 with drumbrakes,skinny 30's tires,wire wheels and no wings must have been scary to say the least

  • ...and dont forget no seat belts. If your gears locked up, you went flying out of the car.

  • yes, I've seen some nasty crashes with these GP cars in clips from 1930's races

    these Auto Unions were very tricky to drive and few dared pushing them to the limit,even among the fearless drivers of the era

  • @WASPTexas 580bhp.

  • @silverblackss 640 just before the war, the streamlined version would easily outrace a modern day F1 on the straights

  • @WASPTexas

    It was clocked at 432 KPH on the autobahn!!!

    It makes me wonder by how much has automotive engineering progressed since the 30's?

  • @rock3tcat: Really? Let's see what you would rather do on a straigh line... drive a "Bugatti" (Volkswagen) Veyron to 400 km/h or a 1930's Grand Prix car...

  • @argh1989

    If you're talking about safety or comfort then I don't see how your comment is relevant to my question, I was simply talking about pure performance. How much faster is a modern day supercar to a supercar from the 30's?

    Yes the modern ones are safer, lighter, more reliable, more efficient, etc. But in terms of speed, not much has progressed.

  • @rock3tcat: I think automotives could be much faster than that today but look at the circumstances. Most race tracks of the time were public roads closed for the event. There is simply not enough space to get to speeds well over 400km/h.

  • @rock3tcat the problem with cars from the 30's and today's is that the older cars had a lot harder a time transfering the power to the ground cause of the tires, etc. todays cars have diffusers, fat tires, spoilers, etc. back then all that mattered was huge engine in light car, period.

  • @rock3tcat Candidly, not as much as we would like to think. The only differences now are the advances in metallurgy and computer controls. Car and truck technology peaked in the 1950's. After 1957 when planned obsolesence was instituted by the government, the big advances in engineering and efficiency were stopped cold. I'll take a 50s automobile with a few upgrades over a modern auto anyday.

  • @WASPTexas Yeah. This was a car that could do over 200 at almost all the races it attended at speeds that are extreme even by today's standards.

    The only thing I can think of as a good comparison would be if F1 was based around cars like the Thrust SSC.

  • The guy on the throttle is trying to hold, the folks in the back are getting their shots, ... that was race car.

  • pity the audio is distorted

  • We will try to get a clip of the A-Type with better sound when we run it in a few weeks time...

  • Geiles Video.

    mehr davon.!!!!!!

  • One word... and that word is, "wow".

  • A 4 stroke V16 fires every 45 degrees of crnk shft rotation. Evenfire for the banks of cylinders is 45 or 135 degrees. Cadillac made both type angles OHV 16's are 45's & flatehead 16's. 720 degrees/16= 45.I do believe Marmon,Peerless, & the Auto Union are also banked at 45dgs. Cadillac for economic reasons (tooling cost) built OVH V12,370 cid, at 45 dgs. Not evenfire, but the power impulses made the smooth.

  • I videoed a Type C being started at Audi's Donau Ring Treffen in Ingolstadt.

    I got very lucky as they wheeled it right up to me & started it. I've tried to upload to Youtube but it keeps crapping out. I put it on my own server. 67Mb high quality.

    ww dt pgoffline dt com slash movies slash DR-040502-V16-startup dot mpg

  • firing on 2 cyl. at at time should make it sound like a Harley Davidson

  • AUDI FTW!

  • That is an Auto Union not an AUDI

  • Auto union and Audi are linked!

    I cant remember what the initials stand for but Audi stands for a number of companies including auto union. Bit of boring history for u there!!

  • It's pretty simple:

    Audi, DKW, Horch and Wanderer formed the Auto Union in 1932. That's when the four rings first appeared.

    Later Audi was bought and sold several times, until in the 60's VW (Volkswagen) put an Audi on the road. Again it had the four rings, but largely used Mercedes parts.

  • Audi used Mercedes parts?? You should try to get some more info on it.

  • The only thing wierd about the names is that that Audi (latin) and Horch (german) have about the same meaning. They mean something close to listen (I'm not an interpretor).

  • Is a cool engine sound; I heard that although it is a v16 it fires 2 cylinders at a time so in fact fires at the same intervals as a V8?

    It revs really high, is it in the region of 15,000 rpm- really advanced for the year.

  • these engines rev 4500-5000 rpm

  • They rev a lot higher than that!

    Look at the other videos!!

  • I built the car so I guess I probably know how they work.

  • idd!!! and then you are already in yellow or red...

  • 5000 RPM due to Porsche's low-RPM philosophy?

  • 5000 rpm because it was the 30's. Most engines struggled above 6000, and this supercharged beast had enough power.

  • The Mercedes-Benz GP car revved much higher.

    I believe I read somewhere that the supercharged V12 of the 1938 Type D could do 10k RPM!

  • Auto Union 45 deg V16 powered Type C.

    Bore X Stroke: 75 X 85 mm

    Year: 1936-37 Capacity: 6,006 CC

    Class: Grand Prix Power: 520 bhp at 5,000 rpm

    The V12 used in the Auto Union Type D made peak power at 7,000 rpm.

  • Oh well, live and learn!

    Maybe its the BRM that is the high revver?

  • Yeah, the BRM is a 1.5L 135 degree V16 that is claimed to make 600hp at 11,800 rpm with max rpm of 12,000. The specs were also at an astronomical 5.7 bar of boost.

  • see BRM V16 engine sound.

  • My friend I didn't mean to heart your feelings about audi...

    But you should know sth about Audi:

    It was just one of the four brands that formed Auto union and then in the late sixties audi stole the four circles.

    Auto union's racing history is far apart from audi

  • Hurt feelings?

    I must have missed something there!!lol..what does "sth" mean?

  • you are answering to me ironically, aren't you?

    I thought that we had a conversation about Audi's sign and not about the fact that I don't speak so fluent english and about my spelling...

    I bet that you also speak Greek fluently so we can continue our conversation in my mother language. I will be able to check your spelling too..

    Loipon ilithie malaka Agle pou nomizeis oti mporeis kai exeis to thrasosna sarkazeis tous allous epeidi ekanan ena orthografiko lathos ti exeis na peis tora?

  • No, I just could not find what u said that would hurt my feelings! I thought u maybe replied to the wrong person!

    Im never sarcastic and I really do not know what sth means! something?

    Ur spelling is better than most english peoples' so dont worry about that!

    The only Greek I know is cabab!! mmmm nice...

  • Horch, the founder's name, formed his first company in 1899, making it one of the oldest car companies. In 1909, due to being forced out of his company, Horch had to rename his new company to Audi. Horch is German for "to listen". Audi is the Latin translation of that. In 1928, Audi was acquired by DKW. In 1932, Horch, Audi,DKW and Wanderer merged to form the Auto Union affiliated group. The current Audi four-ring logo is the Auto Union logo that stands for the merger of this four brands.

  • Wow, you sound pretty intelligent until I realize that you just copied that from someone else and your name is "pussymaster".

  • My ID, pvssymaster, stands for Private Virtual Systems, which I'm considered a master in. It has nothing to do with some sexually ixplicit ID. And I'm quite familiar with Audi because I owned an 1983 Audi quattro UR (the original) and some DKW motorcycles in the past. I did some research on Audi long time ago and recall it quite well.

  • The most wonderful racing car ever!

  • true,but very few could handle it back then,it was a lethal beast

  • find the original video plus info on the rebuilding of the cars at the ianmacfarlane website

  • A real ground shaker!

  • WOOOOOWEEEEEEEE

  • It is like a Lion! the king!

  • Thats a big noise !

  • WOW!!!

  • Increible! Ese coche fue concebido en los años 30!! Hace 70 años que sobrepasó los 400 km/h y hoy en dia hablamos admirados de los MacLaren, Koenigseg, Ferrari... y ese coche tiene 70 años!!!!!

  • There are loads of morons on carsites that doubt the Auto Unions could reach those speeds.I enjoy bashing those morons.Morons give car enthusiasts a bad name.

  • Well, it obviously done at least over 240 mph because the pieces of the crashed Type C Stromlinie where found over 2 miles away which weren't that far if it were any lower.

    The only reason why we can't do it today is because our morality is subdued by rationality.

    Back in 1938 it was win or die.

    If you were performing under said expectations then only one thing awaited you...

    Execution by firing squad.

    Just like he (Hitler) did with his niece, and most of his staff.

  • I like your video clip and have rated it as awesome. Please check out mine on some 1930's motor car tobacco cards. Includes early Auto Union and many other makes.

  • While americans just had developed a V8 engine, europeans already had a V16...

  • to the above stupid comment: 1926 cadillac v-16 under development. douche!

  • Bugatti had a concept V16 built out of two V8's in 1916.

    The very same V8 that Duesenberg licensed to build from Bugatti.

    And I believe there were also developing the U-16 at the very same moment.

  • Um... Duesenberg built their own engines. And they weren't V-8s, but inline eight cylinders, displacing about two thirds what the Bugattis of the time did. S'pose you'll tell us next that Duesenberg was a German company?

  • No, I'm sorry you're right it was an I-16.

    Fred Duesenberg built engines using Bugatti technology, that's what I heard on a documentary on the Dutch TV.

  • And the Duesy had an I-8 engine.

  • Not quite. The Duesenberg brothers aquired a government contract to build the King-Bugatti H-16 (was essentially two of their straight-eights sharing a block, with two crankshafts geared to a single output)aircraft engine, shortly after moving their operation to New Jersey, at the onset of WW1. Their initial eights were inspired by Bugatti's layout (there was no inline-eight native to the US at the time), but were uniquely their own.

  • Ok, then that's correct I believe. ^^

  • So it reached 400 km/h?

  • Bernd Rosemayer was the first human ever reaching over 400km/h on a public road in a AutoUnion (Audi) race car. Mercedes beat his record with 432km/h (270mph) with the Mercedes W125 Rekordwagen, driven on the Autobahn A5 during the Rekordwoche (recordweek). At the same day Rosemayer try to get back the record ... because of blowing winds all said to him he should not drive... but he did it.. he lost controll because of heavy sidewinds at 440km/h (275mph)

  • There are many types of aircraft engines,this V16 was designed specifically for the racing car,and was inlarged and improved over the years.

    The UK firm Crosthwaite and Gardener MADE 6 repros of this car for Audi,they are stunning,this vid might even be one of them.

  • Amazing...

    Only the Germans could engineer such a thing back in the 1930`s. What a Car. I think Audi should put that engine back into production...

  • This engine and car were designed by Dr. Ferdinand Porsche.

  • no parece V16, mas bien parece L8...

  • Esto es un V16.

  • si pero no lo parece, se ve muy flaco el motor para ser un "V".. digo yo... xD

  • Sí, es porque el motor es muy bajo. ;)

    Esto es un dry-sump-motor, de modo que es más bajo.

    Para mejor estabilidad.

    Arrepentido si mi Español no es bueno. :P

  • no tan solo por eso, sino porq se ve muy angosto, los motores en "V" acostumbran a ser anchos.. tal vez la posicion de estos cilindros en V sean de un angulo muy cerradito =)

  • If I remember correctly, Hitler invited the driver of that car to attempt a world record speed run on the Autobahn, which turned deadly. I could be wrong.

  • Bernd Rosemeyer made 450km/h on the Autobahn when he was killed. they had then tuned the engine to 600+hp

  • For this the engine was fitted to a different Auto Union chassis, the Stromlinienwagen.

  • Wasn't the Stromlinienwagen simply an Auto-Union Type C with a different streamlined body?

  • Invited? :) By gun point :)

  • I would love to drive it. hmmz, but only 1 ore 2 left of these monsters. The engine came from a bomber airplane if i'm correct

  • This engine was built by auto union specifically for Grnad Prix and Hillclimb racing; it was never fitted to an airplane.

  • ok but wasnt it the same type of engine used in airplanes? thats what I was trying to say

  • I cannot identify an aircraft predecessor to this design.

  • These cars had 520hp in 1936.Imagine controlling it with those skinny tires and horrible brakes.Cool sound.The saying goes the more cylinders the better sound.

  • and they cold do 252 mph. wow.

  • only the streamlined version of it

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