John Adams - The Patriot - Marie Antoinette - Tribute to the Two Revolutions

[believinginluv]

Awesome vid 4 2 fascinating revolutions! Gr8 job! :)

[DarkLadyAthena1]

I like the song

[TheRobpattzlover]

I love both movies so much! Wonderful video, it really got me ready for the fourth now! It's an awesome day to celebrate being American. Happy July 4th!! *__*

[ladyvignette]

@TheRobpattzlover: Thank you! I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Happy Independence Day! :)

[LadyNeferankh]

Gosh! I was just thinking about the American and French revolutions and their similiarities and differences! Lovely vid!

I haven't read Jefferson's personal thoughts on the executions of the King and Queen, but I do know that he was dismayed by the increasing reports of violence his friend the Marquis de Lafayette sent him, and that another friend Tom Paine, argued for the exile rather than execution of the royal family, and that in later years, Jefferson condemned Robespierre in writing.

[ladyvignette]

@LadyNeferankh: I guess we must have been on the same wavelength this week! My mind just kept returning to the disastrous end of the French Revolution and I HAD to put Marie Antoinette into this tribute. So sad.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Jefferson... I imagine he was rather shocked to discover just what the French idea of liberty involved. I need to purchase the rest of his letters -- I own the volume of Adams' correspondence with him, but not the others...

[ladyvignette]

re: Jefferson's view of Marie Antoinette and her husband's death.

Jefferson concluded that the French people were not yet "virtuous" enough to accept a sudden republicanism after so many years of superstition and despotism and that Louis XVI could have been retained as a limited monarch, thus staving off "those enormities which demoralized the nations of the world, and destroyed, and is yet to destroy, millions and millions of its inhabitants."

[TheVampireLover1901]

Can't stand Miley but I can see why you chose the song. I love how you placed up this video, there aren't many tributes - that I've seen, anyways - that show the Revolutions that change the fate of two powerful countries. One ended with independence and freedom and the other the brutal murder of the innocent and the nobles - though some deserved death just not in that brutal way.

Anyways, thanks again for posting this and I enjoyed it :D

[ladyvignette]

@TheVampireLover1901: Glad you could enjoy it in spite of Miley. I figured that might turn some people off, but the song was too perfect to pass up -- and I have to have a beat to work with, and only a handful of songs with the word Liberty in them have much of a beat!

What happened in the French Court ten years after our Revolution was... horrific. I think the worst part is what happened to the royal children!

[MagicCrafter]

continued: ...fate of Louis and his family. Jefferson must have been horrified, as he was a big supporter of the French Revolution in the beginning.

[ladyvignette]

@MagicCrafter: ... normally, I do not listen to Miley Cyrus, but I liked the imagery of the song and how it could represent the Revolution, even if she intended otherwise. =)

I haven't read much about Jefferson's reaction to the death of the monarchy. I know he was an anti-monarchist in general, but he enjoyed his time in the French Court. I would love to know if their deaths horrified him. I hope so!

[MagicCrafter]

@ladyvignette I suppose faith did play a somewhat large role, though I generally dislike the argument that America is a "Christian nation"--that Christian morality went into the founding of our country, I can accept, but clearly the founders weren't going to force anyone to be Christian. (Not that you were saying they were!)

I hope so, although I haven't read any of his words on the subject, either. I meant that he was probably disgusted in a larger sense--that the French went the way of...

[ladyvignette]

@MagicCrafter: It was not the intention of the Founders to force anyone to be religious, no, but the majority of them were devout Christians, so it is natural that a certain amount of religious would go into the principles behind the war -- and all our national documents. (The two-least religious were Jefferson and Franklin, but Jefferson started the first church in the capitol building -- and permitted black men and a woman to preach... Franklin was also the one who called for a day of prayer

[ladyvignette]

... when agreement could not be reached as to the wording of the Constitution.)

Where Jefferson and the monarchy are concerned -- initially, he believed our revolution and the French revolution were the same, but I suspect that altered when the bloodbath escalated to the royal family. Given his sensitive nature, I suspect it disappointed and disgusted him very much.

I always enjoy discussion -- so you're not clogging up my comments. =)

[MagicCrafter]

@ladyvignette violence and anarchy rather than our fairly structured revolution! (I'm sorry to clog up your video's comments, by the way. ^^')

[MagicCrafter]

Maybe not the song choice I would have used, but I’m soooo glad to see you make something for the Fourth! The coloring is just perfect for the period. I love the whole thing…I can even deal with the Miley Cyrus. =]

It’s so fascinating to see one Revolution go so well (in the end, anyway) and one so horribly. Of course, if the colonists had been starving and ignored the way the French people were, things could have been different—though George was definitely far enough away to escape the...

[ladyvignette]

@MagicCrafter: The reason the French Revolution failed, in my opinion, is it was an atheist revolution, whereas the American Revolution was built on and around the principles of faith. Religion paid no part in the godless actions of the French, but paid every part in the prayerful decisions of the Founders. I do not believe even if King George had resided in Boston, they would have ever executed him.