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  • 3000gts r not garbage. dude raced a sl. go up against a vr4 dude. or stealth rt tt.

  • Haha 3000 gt's are garbage.

  • Everyone saying a GTP couldn't smoke a 3000GT is fucking retarded. A Pontiac Grand Prix GTP has a Eaton M90 supercharged 3.8L 240+ HP sidewinder engine. I had a GTP when I was 16 and it smoked the shit out of these little shits and still sat comfortably until I could afford an even better car. Also fuck your Hondas, your Neons, and your Eclipses. Get a real fucking car if you're going to put wide mouth exhausts and shitty chinaman parts all over it. You just look like a fucking faggot.

  • Smgmp7A1 - correction, 260hp 280tq

  • @ShaLikeAh correction he is correct for series II which is in the vid but for es III it is 260 and 280.

  • @alexzanderpickel series *

  • @ShaLikeAh

    For the 2004+ GTP models

    The 1997-2003 models had 240hp

  • must have a decent T.A. if it could take a VR-4, even if stock.. I love AWD.. solution to that is just slap some more HP in there, 'Friends dont let friends drive Stock'

  • thats a mimic.. race a true VR-4.. not that youll win tho...

  • @Draven3000gt depends...i raced a VR-4 in my 96 Trans am auto i had. only mod i had was a K&N drop-in and he was the only car to ever get me off the line. my car had cooper cobra tires which launched very nicely...even beat a first gen STI off the line but the VR-4 had me by about 3 cars off the line but i caught him around 80 and i let off at 110 and had about 3 on him. dont know what year his was tho. AWD is great for launches but more stress on the motor compared to a RWD w/ slightly less HP

  • beautiful what mods do u have?

    

  • Yeah, my buddy bought a 94 VR4, and it eats STI's all day....so you need to actually race something worth racing.

  • Setting the records straight: The 3000GT is a 2ng generation (94-96) no-turbo. Had 220hp 24v 3.0L V6 engine. Drivetrain is front wheel drive. It gets out of its own way but not 'fast' by any stretch of the imagination.

  • so i'm guessing this is a 97 3kgt. i'm assuming that due to the fact the 97's had 160hp stock. so 160hp vs 240hp 280ft lbs. My friend has a GTP, I beat him with my bone stock 1988 RX7. and I beat him with my bone stock 92 3KGT. I mean I could be wrong, he could just be a shitty driver.

  • haha! that's not a Vr4... it's an SL 220hp. Race a vr4 next time and pray he doesn't have a manual boost controller

  • @19danflo I'm pretty sure that its not the 220hp. it's probably a 97, so 160hp. theres no way a gtp can take a 220hp 3kgt that hard

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  • @RINDALGTA you are right, i totally forgot about the base model 3000gt. what a fail, he probably wouldn't of been able to pull on an sl let alone a vr4.

  • @RINDALGTA off the start it will its supercharged. gtp has acceleration not top speed

  • @darthnater22 I know its supercharged, my friend has one. and I beat him off the line with both my bone stock 1988 RX7 and my 1992 3KGT.

  • @RINDALGTA have to call BS on this one.

  • @RINDALGTA i own a 3.4 gtp and i cant even go all in untill 15-20 mph or else i start burning rubber so thats why u beat him off the line.

  • @RINDALGTA I do agree that it is hard for a GTP to take a VR4 that hard. But the GTP have at the crank 240hp and 280trq. Source; I own a 00' GTP.

  • wow. Im a pontiac fan but i really didnt thinkit would end that way. I thought the 3000gts were quicker. that is a vr4 right?

  • @35RSkyline nope 100% not a vr4

  • @35RSkyline my guess it that the 3kgt is a 97 base model. 160hp. slowest year for the 3kgt's. a VR4 would have destroyed the gtp without any problem. 320hp on 3200lbs vs 240hp on too heavy. the 3kgt in this is a base model single cam

  • Is that a stock GTPO?

  • i have a GTP daily driver and a Stealth RT/TT(same as VR4) weekend monster :)

  • There is no way in hell anyone can say by the way that 3000gt's tires were spinning that its a VR4 because your only fooling the red necks and idiot ricers( ;

  • that dude nees a VR 4 with that AWD and twin turbo then the silly rRcers would'nt get a big head( ; gtp is not even a sports car!LMAO VR 4 = vet killer... put your money into a real car... at leasta 1G DSM has AWD!!!RICERS!!!!!!!!!

  • @420katieklown420 the GTP is actually a pretty cool car.. own a 99 camaro SS procharged with over 500hp and i do have to say..i kinda would'nt mind having another GTP..my camaro is stupip fast and fun..but the GTP's have alot of potential..to get 300HP out of them all u need is an 80$ S/C pulley...and there are tons of videos of them on here where they beat all sorts of bad ass impots and muscle cars...they are kinda like a Termi Cobra...a few small mods goes a long way on a S/C car

  • wow bro pllzzz doo somethin bout those rims man (3000gt)

  • nice race, shame it was a sl model, you can see the spoiler at 14 sec. if you guys know the sl and vr4 spoiler differences, good race anyways.

  • @alex01978 ehh idk, ive seen multiple stock wings on VR4s theres a couple different ones i believe?

  • had a hard launch him sine u were the horn...

  • Nice run man, but no way you can beat a VR4 unless maybe if heavily modified. Mustve been a base model.I know you didnt say it was a VR4 but some may assume you did due to lack of info.

  • That was either a base model 3000, or the sl. If it was the VR-4, then you wouldnt see the front tires peel out and smoke, it would of launched and left that Prix, the only way the Prix would be able to catch it stock for stock is if the 3000 ran outta fuel...lol

  • i think the dude in the 3000gt found out that gtp's are fast!!

  • obviously wasn't a vr4, epic fail. btw vr4s run in the 13s stock :p

  • vr4's r only supposed to run 14.2 with a good driver. plus if the car was hurting. i run 14.1 in my gtp.

  • @wlmrt6 All stock 02 and earlier gtps Ive seen run 15.0-15.5 stock depending on options/year

  • @wlmrt6 In regards to your vr4's r only supposed to run 14.2 with a good driver post. Good drivers will run high 13's 1st gen and mid 13's 2nd gen. I ran a 13.4 with just an intake & 13.1 with just intake & downpipe. If you run a 14.2 in a VR4, then it's not being launched correctly. And yes that includes all the magazine times in the early 90's when there was really no other high performance awd cars available. Even today there are pro drivers that don't know how to drive awd cars properly.

  • hahah funny video here lol. thats prolly a base model. the vr4 has more horsepower torque plus the all wheel drive it will spank a gtp lol.

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  • I killed a vr4 back when i only had an intake n all i got is an 05 gtp.

  • @wlmrt6 haha bullshit.

  • @lilguitarist4 I agree... vr4's are wel known to dip into the 1380-1390 range(same as dodge stealth rt turbo) GTPs run 15's- whole different league stock

  • @series1riv

    GTP= mid-high 14's Stock

    Source- Clubgp.com

  • @2kGtP

    Nope my friends 99 gtp with an intake ran 15.5.

  • @696969Brian696969 ha it depends on the driver and what intake its all factors such as elevation and temperature and many others and still a gtp stock has a faster 1/4 mile so yeaaaa

  • @ThriftyCougar

    Yes but a 5 speed non turbo 3000gt can do it in low 15s with a good driver. Auto is 16s full second slower this 3000gt looks like its auto.

  • @696969Brian696969 15s really? The best Ive seen a Non turbo fwd 3000gt run was like 17.60 it was a stick., he got beat by my buddy in a 318 Dodge Durango. And i find it hard to believe an automatic would be a full second slower considering most of the time an automatic is faster

  • @GMdrivingMOPARguy

    Well its true. Most autos are stuck in the 16s. If one ran a 17 must of been running bad or was a sohc auto. I know one guy if you search his name on youtube stealthee3k he ran 16.02 stock in his 5 speed sohc and dohcs have an extra 30 horsepower or so which is why they run 15s. He also ran 15.78 just by removing the cat.

  • @696969Brian696969 Ok if the standards have more power then i can see why they are faster, i dont know a whole lot about these cars i just think they are good looking. In regards to the guy i know that ran 17s, it was an SOHC car but is in fact a manual (this verifyed by the fact he killed it the first time he staged it lol). I heard he did have the heads ported and is in the 16s now

  • @GMdrivingMOPARguy

    The autos do make less power and on top of that the tall gears and not much power hurts. The DOHC n/a auto shifts at 7000+ rpms so it reaches 60 mph in first gear the sohc redlines at 6200 so thats when the auto sohc shifts at around 45 ish. The standards have shorter gears so they have to shift to second around 30-35ish.

  • @GMdrivingMOPARguy was that the only 3000gt sl you've seen race then, stock automatics run 16.4's it depends on the year as well. the newer ones got slower

  • @RINDALGTA Yes it was the only one ive seen run. All i knew about the car was it was a single cam 12 valve 5 speed and it was white. I think it was a mid-ish 90s model

  • @wlmrt6 Haha bullshit. No way it was a VR4 then, or he wasnt racing you lol, and no way only an intake takes 1.5 seconds off your quarter mile >_<. Just sayin :)

  • @wlmrt6 05 gtp is series3 with a m120 right? they are faster- and a poor driver could easily botch a race in a vr4.... the car in this vid is a 02 or earlier

  • @series1riv

    05 GTP= Series 3 (Gen 5) M90 / 260HP

  • @wlmrt6 you are saying that a heavy FWD family sedan beat a Twin turbo AWD monster? 270 FWD<320 AWD Horeses

  • Good point i guess.

  • lol yall are all so fucking mad. a gtp should beat a base/sl 3000gt any day so get over it. a vr4 is a really high 13 second car at best so it isn't a wonder a gtp could take one with a few bolt ons and a smaller pully. I have a regal gs and have owned a vr4, both are ok cars that require alot of cash to be considered fast at all.

  • wow you guys lol. this is my car which i no longer have and the kid thought he could beat it. it was for fun not for everyone to get all pumped up and pissed about!

  • Ok the only reason that any accord might be able to beat a gtp is cuz it has a 5-speed so they don't have the downshift delay

  • @frojo1994 Don't forget that the weak Jap engines need really low gears, GTP 2.93 Accord 4.64...

  • at a 60 roll my bros accord can beat a gtp

  • Haha so much talk on this video lol... a bunch of haterz on both cars lol... Owell you love what car you love... I just simply like the fact that you dont see a 3000gt vr4 on every block as compared to a gtp lol

  • gtp is a sports car lol funny

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  • ur a fucking fag. u must really like GTP's the only think those cars are good for are scrap metal. this is 2010. LMAO

  • @ss420bulldog yea some scrap metal that will put your shitty ass car to shame

  • I have more fun with all the gtp haters lol on the comments just accept it the gtp 2 or 4 door is a pretty fast car, just cus its not a v8 or has some dumbass jap 4 cammer in it does not mean it will eat you, VR-4's SUCK MY C#$K ahahhahaha alll

  • Why is this video on youtube

  • Great race...I'm going to race a stealth r/t with no mods tonight and I got a 99 regal gs with cai, res delete, 180 tstat, and autolite 106 plugs. I'm really curious to see how this goes!

  • @gm628 how did it go?

  • i just bought a caddilac throw some d's on that fuck!

    is what i say to everyone below me :) fighting over their precious car toys mothers say that unless your willing to time the fight the only one who wins is the clock.

  • Well once again I can say you guys are in over your head. Yesterday I raced one of these pos's and beat it. Hmmm yeah my vr4 is realllllllll slow??? XD stupid hicks

  • I drive a 04 gto

  • for being a family sedan, GTP's are pretty nice.

  • Gtps are hunks of garbage

  • @02camarosst and what do you drive?

  • I own a stock vr-4 and would guarantee it would take any stock GTP

  • @jhowe0919 you also have AWD and about 70 more HP so i hope your little twin turbo could beat a gtp. Thats like me saying i could destroy a stock civic. i love both the gtp and vr-4 but thats not really a fair fight on that one.

  • also the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 is twin turbo, but i forgot GTP's are "trash" when the guy who holds the world record has a GTP. 160 mph @ like 9.XX seconds. just saying. now, i'd be curious to see who would win in that race..

  • @tyl3rjon3s The world record for the fastest front wheel drive was actually a Grand Prix GT...

  • @Pracerdohczx2 ehh i dont know about that. i just double checked and i am pretty sure it is a GTP. now i may be wrong but i am pretty sure it is a GTP.

  • @tyl3rjon3s where did u look?

  • @Pracerdohczx2 on here, the 9 Second GTP is the guy with the W/R right? am not really sure. i thought it was a GTP?? it doesnt say on the vid.. it just says grand prix... haha idk i really wanna know... i may be wrong but it is a sweet car..

  • @alwaysaswish just bcuz it isnt turbo or s/c doesnt mean anything. i think the point he is trying to make is that his family sedan beat a sports car. which is crazy. for being a (family SEDAN GTP's) GTX's and GXP's are fairly quick, specially being that it is indeed a Family Sedan.

  • If everyone is going to throw around ridiculous times then I will join in the fun. Someone said a stock GTP runs mid 14's. Just because one car does, doesn't mean all of them will. What was the elevation, temp, and was it on street tires. The fastest stock 3/S TT was 13 flat. A well driven TT 3/S will run mid 13's. A well driven GTP will run low 15's. That's a far cry from being in the same league. Once your modified it's anybodies race & comparison becomes skewed with morons.

  • @96stealth Um where do u see a TT 3/s do 13s flat?

  • @Pracerdohczx2 A guy did it in a silver 96 Stealth. If you look hard enough, there is a video somewhere on the net. He beat a C5 vette in the video.

  • i hate commentary...jus shut up and let the cars talk!!!!

  • lets try again. my comments dont seem to be posting.. *vr4: hp at wheels and so on ~at the normal 24% drivetrain loss, 300*.76 = 228hp am i close?

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  • haha its funny seeing all the gtp fanboys in here get all happy about seeing a supercharged vehicle beat a smaller engine with no turbo/supercharger.... Ahhh pathetic they have to grasp on to nothing... knowing the fact they cant beat a vr4

  • as a matter of fact i did beat a vr4.

    there fuckin slow.

    so before you start talkin shit.

    get it right.

  • hahaha fucking slow??? please tell me your a comedian... if not your just fucking idiot...

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  • @88forddude That's an asinine statement. Then what are GTP's? OH that's right, a fwd four door sedan. And who's talkin shit? You actually think a GTP is better than a 3/S. That's laughable. If you did beat VR-4, you are far from stock. Do you think you deserve a medal for probably beating a ragged on 18 yr old stock car with your modified GTP. Please, stop talking big like you have the greatest car on earth. There are plenty of other cars out there that would completely destroy you.

  • @96stealth Lol @ you thinking Vr4's are fast. This is why people laugh at you ricers. The Vr4 is an unrestricted sports car. The GTP is a computer limited Sport/Luxury, they aren't fast, but yes they do still beat Vr4's. You can deny it all you want but numbers don't lie.

  • @TiKondaRoga Are you kidding me. Your more retarded than 88forddude. Everything you just said is completely wrong and bias. #'s don't lie, VR-4's are faster than GTP's in stock form. Luxury? I don't think so. How many stock cars in the mid 90's were running 13's? More Jap cars than American ones. Anything can be made fast, but the fact that they are fwd is the only reason I need to tell it's a garbage platform.

  • They're.

  • @88forddude lol i can smell the bull from here..cuz i have a 93 vr4 that would run u any day of the week vr4 would take the launch and youd never keep up

  • @88forddude hahahaha are you retarded man? whatever dude.

  • @88forddude

    how is a vr4 slow are you retarded?

  • @88forddude

    lol no you didnt.

    2000 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 0-60 in 6.8 1/4 mile in 15.1

    1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 0-60 in 4.8 1/4 mile in 13.6

    unless you are mod’ed, and raced a stock vr4, and did it from a roll so he didnt kick you in the nuts, sorry raisins, off the line you have never come close to a vr4 or stealth tt.

  • @88forddude \Hi all. My buddy has a stealth runnin around 14 pounds and I beat him twice and kept pulling away with a regal gs with just exhaust and HAI but I'm sure it would've been WAAy closer If he knew how to launch correctly lol.

  • @88forddude vr4s are not slow. >_< lol they are faster then gtps stock for stock any day anytime. Plus that vr4 should have wasted you off the line. He doesnt know how to launch at all.

    And mind me asking How do you know its a vr4?

    So what do you have done to your car because its obviously not stock.

    And props to one gtp in 200,000 to beat a vr4 :D. 3000s are way cooler anyways and not every other person on the road has one like they do grand prixs.

  • @lilguitarist4 fanboy alert lol.

  • @lilguitarist4 I agree with you.dont the VR4 have 300-320HP they are twin Turbo I know the Non-Turbo have 222HP and Im not to sure what year the GTP is The GTP only has 240HP with a superchargar. Now that could all depend on how much mod are done tothe GTP.. Now if were talke bone stock for both car. HANDS DOWN THE 3000GT WOULD SMOKE YOU..

  • He wishes he could beat a vr4 :)

    If he says those cars are "slow", then hes obviously never been in one, or raced one.

  • @alwaysaswish Its funny you spent that much time thiking about what to write to insult a better overal car. Thank you.

  • @alwaysaswish its funny u say tht. i have a 4 DOOR Honda Accord 4 Banger and i can beat a turbo Jetta. JUST SAYING. thing is, i know my car isnt the fastest car out there, but for the weight of the car, and being very lightly modified it is pretty fast, specially since it is faster than a turbo.

  • @alwaysaswish The sad thing is, is there are a lot of 3000gt base owners who think those cars are fast, it's VR4 or go home, can't really expect to beat much without the boost and AWD.

  • @alwaysaswish vr4's are slow as balls. A basic 3.4 pullied GTP can take one. Do some research you fuckin tool bag.

  • @VerzGP Another stupid ass hick huh... Well dude Its odd how I just got done kicking a gtp's ass 2 weeks ago man... And not to mention is an Evo slow? hmmm no I dont think so and I am beating Evos... How about you Do some research you dipshit.

  • @alwaysaswish Yes the new EVO's are slow you fuckin ricer. They trap like 100 mph haha. a GTP was not intended to be a race car either. The GTP you raced was probably stock haha. The GTP comes stock with 6 lbs of non IC'd boost. And The fact that it beats your Twin Turbo'd vr4 with minimal mods is sad. Both of my GTP's will rape a vr4. I said it once and i'll say it again, do some research before opening your mouth you ignorant fuck.

  • @VerzGP Wow you are a fucking idiot man... If I would have known we are going to go all technical here on a fucking youtube video then you should have just said. And to say that a GTP is not a racer then tell me why are all of you dumbass's out there trying to race the pieces of shit.

  • @VerzGP And when I said technical here I thought about it and laughed considering your talking out of your ass as well buddy. You keep saying my gtp will kick your vr4's ass blah blah blah... shut the fuck up. Minimal mods my ass who gives a fuck about your piece of shit buddy.

  • @VerzGP If you want to get on technical terms and show that your not so ignorant and have a decent converstation about the specs and modifications to each vehicle then lets have it. Going around and proving your ignorance will not get you anywhere stupid fuck.

  • @alwaysaswish A 3000GT vr4 only puts down around 270 whp and it's a lot heavier than a GTP you idiot. A simple 3.4 pullied GTP puts down 240-250 whp. The fact that your POS needs TWO Turbos to make only 270whp is a joke. Do some reasearch too bag.

  • @VerzGP lmao quit getting your information from wikipedia dude 3.0 L DOHC 24-valve, twin-turbocharged, twin-inter cooled V6, the VR4 produced either 300 BHP at 6000 RPM and 307 lb-ft. of torque at 4500 RPM (10 pounds/square inch of boost in the 1991 to 1993 models), or 320 BHP at 6000 RPM and 315 lb-ft. of torque at 2500 RPM (12 pounds/square inch of boost in the 1994 to 1999 VR4s) but you were correct about your gtp with the supercharger 240hp but once it gets to the ground im guessing 210bhp

  • @dangertheplain Umm...i said a basic 3.4 pulley swapped GTP with a canned tune and exhaust will make around 240-250 HP to the GROUND. And snce the GTP is about 400-500 lbs lighter it will have no probably beating your Twin Turbo'ed sports car. And that's still NON intercooled with 10-11 lbs of boost. LOL @ the 3000gt needing 2 intercoolers for 12 psi. The 3800 engine is way out of your league dude.

  • @VerzGP needs 2 intercoolers? have you ever heard of side mounted intercoolers?

    and lets put this whole thing to an end, the vid clearly was him racing an NA FWD...in his moms 4 door GTP :P VR4 = low 13 second car stock, GTP super charged = 14s. DONE

  • @x2percentmilk stock vr4's are lucky to see mid 13's, and what do they trap? Like 100 mph? lol...if it weren't for their AWD they would be 14 second cars stock too dumbass. A basic pulley swapped GTP and small supporting mods is enough to take one down. Switch the GTP's blower with a Turbo and forget about it lol..

  • @VerzGP That fact that you're admitting it takes a modified GTP to beat a TT 3/S makes you look like a fool. There's a big difference between 1st gen to 2nd gens. 300hp-320, 150lbs lighter and a better geared 6 speed. I've seen $15 manual boost controller cars run high 12's. Lets see a GTP with a $15 mod even break 14's. GTP's are family sedans. The brakes, suspension, fwd, interior, build quality......all suck. You are in denial. Your not living in the real world. Time to grow up.

  • @96stealth I want one of those 15 dollar boost controllers :)

  • @96stealth dude quit trolling on all these GTP vids ya fucking nerd. BTW my H/C/I c5 corvette with smoke whatever you own. My daily driver 02 GS regal with 3.0 pulley, headers, custom tune. intake, plugs thats it runs 12.88. my brother's RT stealth with a boost controller (LOL) that isn't 15 bucks by the way faggot cannot get below 13.5, he has exhaust too. my 4 door granny car with less than 500 in mods smokess your piece of shit stealth/3000gt all fuckin day, as im sittin on heated leather

  • @treyofour I can't believe how many GTP fanboys are out there. You don't know what your talking about at all. I don't believe that your brother owns a Stealth & if he did makes you look like more of a fool. TT 3/S's are faster than GTP's. There's no debate. It's a fact that you fanboys can't deal with. Oh and just because you car has mods doesn't mean you can get down the 1/4 at optimal time. My friends H/C/I exhaust car ran 13's & I have proof of it on my channel. $15 bleeder valves do exist.

  • @96stealth your stupid i've seen you posting on other shit too, YOU are the one thats clueless, these 3800 s/c cars are fucking STRONG, with500 bucks my car runs 12's all fucking day while i sit on heated leather seats, have a back seat, a large truck and will SMOKE you ugly ass, heavy stealth RT (yours prolly isn't even a RT LOL) , you don't know what your talking about if you call me "fanboy". lol its my daily driver bitch im no "fanboy"  , ill get my H/C/I C5 vette out for speed douche,

  • @treyofour You're a waste of time. My car is currently in 11 sec form. I also have a friend who is afraid to race me with his 99' ACR Viper, because he knows he will lose even though I don't care who wins. You don't have anything to back up your claims on your channel. Supposedly your Vette runs high 11's with 125 shot of nitrous. Didn't any one tell you bottles are for babies. It's also illegal on the street. You're still to immature to talk. Children should be seen not heard.

  • @96stealth lol yea that vette USED To be stock on a 125 shot and run 11's now it's a heads, cam, intake car with headers full exhaust , your piece of shit stealth would get hafltracked in drag, auto cross, you fucking name it bitch....and the funny part is you have NO aurguement, call me a child LOL last time I checked a child don't drive a corvette....my point was my fucking grocery getter buick GS runs fucking 12's so keep talking shit you cocksucking douchebag. stealths/3000gts are JUNK

  • @treyofour Here's why you are still a child. You call me names from bitch to faggot without knowing me. Your overly judgmental. You randomly capitalize words. Your arguments are the my dad can beat up your dad mentality. What point are you trying to make? Any car can be made fast. FWD is the last platform anyone would choose to use. Which would you you rather have & mod? Any rwd sports car or a GTP? A GTP is a daily driver. I would much rather have a Mercedes or BMW sedan than a GTP or Buick.

  • @96stealth here's why YOUR a bitch....you call me a GTP "fanboy" because i said my fucking DAILY DRIVER GS BUICK will stomp your ugly ass, heavy ass, stealth. I NEVER said it was better than a RWD car, where did you even get that from kid? Your fucking DUMB as hell. I HAVE a RWD C5 vette I know what a sports car is jackass, where do you get off callling me a "gtp fanboy" when I don't even own a fucking GTP you ignorant fuck. Your trying so hard to sound like you know shit when you DON"T

  • @96stealth 3000 GT's are complete JUNK, or stealth's, They break ALL the fucking time. The 3800 S/C engine will go 200k plus. show me a stealth with 200k LOL yea fuckin right, they require sooo much maintenance it ain't even funny, if you own one you should know this. They aren't fast, they're heavy, ugly, hard to work on, break down constantly, expensive to work on, FUCKING JUNK... like i said my grocery getter daily driver buick will smoke your piece of shit any day, and still get 28mpg

  • @treyofour You need to come back into the real world. 3/S's are just as reliable as any other car if properly maintained. How is something that is expensive to fix junk? How is your 12 sec Buick going to beat my 11 sec Stealth? My Stealth has also gotten 30mpg hwy and I to can get groceries. If your not a GTP fanboy then you're a GM fanboy. How do you know wether or not i've owned a GTP? Your making assumptions. You need to use profanity to make a point. You don't get respect that way.

  • @treyofour

    Your full of it. Guy on 3si is putting cams in a SOHC that has 180k miles and still not burning oil, etc. I'm putting cams in mine and it has 131k miles no worries. Here's a video of a stealth with 283k miles original engine and still going. youtube.com

    watch?v=8BlxqooN7zQ

  • @alwaysaswish Keep in mind the price difference lol.

  • @alwaysaswish its true, that 3000 was the non turbo..a vr-4 would smoke this car, and i'd beat money that this dude in his gtp has not beaten a vr-4..dawg my stealth is the non turbo and I gaurentee that it would beat your car..hands down

  • @alwaysaswish vr4.... I literally loled to that bud

  • @gtpsleeper Well I use to be one of the haterz on youtube but it just got old really quick and pointless arguing. I do somewhat have a valid point lol but still... just thought I would mention that lol

  • rofl, thats a beast lil GTP

  • gotta love that low coolant sensor b.s.

  • to vic3000gt. I'll have to disagree with the fact that the 3000gt is more durable than the L32/L67. It's not to often that you find a high mileage 3000gt, stealth with high miles and no problems unlike the 3800's you can purchase with 160,000+ miles on them and have alot of internal life left.

  • gtp all day fuck a vr4

  • there's no way that's a vr4....

  • alright everyone calm down, he does mention its a 3k not a VR4, because we know he would not keep up, that 3k lost too much time spinning when that would NOT happen with the VR4

  • Um thats an 3000GT SL with 212 HP...race the Vr-4 and you would get raped!!!

  • @BassnEclipse

    If you''re going to try to act cool like this you might want to get your facts straight, its 222hp

  • buddy needs to take that bitch bra off his 3000 gt

  • are you guys talking about a vw jetta 1.8t? lol they shit. 150ish hp with a turbo. that sucks i spanked one in my honda!

  • Yeah I can tell even from exterior of the car that's Not a VR4 edition. Since 3000gt was running gas pump GTP won. Both cars are good, but I would stick to 3000gt they are much durable then GTP.

    I would like to see remach with a 3000gt on race gas!

  • how do you figure? i have a 3.8 with 302K miles

  • @vic3000gt 3000gts are shit compared to a GTP... How are they more durable? GTP has heavy duty internals that could hold up alot more power then that of a 3000GT, and it has wayyy more potential without spending so much to make it faster.

  • @Pracerdohczx2 There's no way in hell a GTP can support 500-600 at the wheels with stock internals.

  • @96stealth, there are plenty of parts and mods available for GTP that its so easy and cheap to make this car fast. Its cheaper to build, and more durable then a 3000GT. 3000GTs are known to "spun" a bearing. I got a 98 GTP, spend about 1900 in parts, did the labor myself, and did a best of 12.98 seconds on the 1/4 mile ( 93 octane, low profile tires ), at englishtown, NJ. And yes, stock GTP can hold 500 hp on stock internals, its been done using a turbocharger, and a strong head.

  • @Pracerdohczx2 I agree that GTP's can be made fast, but comparing the two cars is a joke. 99% of spun bearings are do to dented oil pans, not because there just unreliable. If you take care of the car it's just as reliable as any other car. I've had mine now for about 4 years running high 11's low 12's with really a mild set-up. 1 wheel bearing is the only thing I've replaced. I've done over 50+ 6k launches with no tranny issues. 3/S's also brake, handle and look better. They're worlds apart.

  • i beat vr6s in mine and there aint a hole lot done to it. vw suck dick

  • VR6 what are you talking about? VR4 is the all wheel drive twin turbo version of the 3000GT

  • Had a 98 Firebird with the 3.8L and I had a 95 3kgt sl and now I have a vr4. The GTP wouldn't stand a chance against the SL without the supercharger and it just wouldn't stand a chance against the vr4.

  • Amen borther!!!