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  • How shit was that advert

  • I thing god have to hire customer service- bcz none of ours prayers are answered XD

  • no one can prove that god made the world. But no one can prove that he didn't. Listin I do infact believe in god and that's my belief and I don't shove it in everyone's faces all the time. U athist can believe what ever u want but I'm so sick of all of u trying to tell me that what I believe isn't real. I am not judging u so why is it that you are repeatively judging me?

  • @Xx3r1ca13xX You might be one of the rare ones who don't, but I'm sick of all you christians trying to tell me what I believe is wrong and shoving your beliefs in my face all the time. Throughout time, religious groups kill and torture those who don't share their opinions. They torture innocent women outside abortion clinics. They hold signs at soldiers' funerals saying god hates them. You hate gays yet your leaders molest little boys. What do atheists do? We make smarmy videos on youtube.

  • The turd I just laid in the toilet is absolutely divine! It's the perfect shape to squeeze out of my ass, it is color coordinated with nature, it stinks so I won't mistake it for food, it's bio-degradable and best of all, it comes out from behind me so I don't even have to look at it...must be God's work!

  • @MegaSage007 You preach well. Next time you open your bible, start at genesis 1. When you get to the part where there are trees before there is a sun to allow photosynthesis, hit me up and tell me what was going on in your head as gou read that? Then open up to the book of numbers, where there are talking donkeys and talk of unicorns, and tell me what you are thinking then about your bible.

  • That button needs a comedic sound effect.

  • @Benchiladas What I'm attached to, has all the comedy I need - The Button

  • Appears to be have been put out by a homosexual lobby group. There's more important shit to worry in the bible than a couple anti-buggery (sodomy) passages. Most people who object to homo behavior do it because they're straight and find such practices disgusting. Not because an imaginary god tells them it's bad. If the bible condoned homo behavior most straight people would still view it in a negative way. And that's a fact.

  • @FaganRoberts actually I disagree, using the examples of ancient Greece and Rome seeing as homosexuality was pretty common. Not saying i disagree about your other comments, but there is a trend in popular culture when the bible is incorporated into it.

  • I wish there was a god , life would be so easy and death would be a new beginning , But alas its just superstition perpetuated by people who cant face their own mortality

  • the fool thinks there is a god, the wise know that god is nothing but bullshit

  • THE EXTRAORDINARY DESIGNS OF THE UNIVERSE REQUIRE AN EXTRAORDINARY DESIGNER.

  • @MegaSage007

    Extrordinary claims require extrordinary evidence. The burden of proof is on you.

  • @NUTCASE71733 Its not an extraordinary claim. Its an ordinary claim regarding an extraordinary Universe.

  • @MegaSage007

    Wrong, you claim to know god did it. Prove it. Put up the evidence you have of god doing this, or shut up.

  • @NUTCASE71733 You would have to join me on my daily ATHEISM IS A GIGANTIC FAIRY TALE video chat room to discuss your evidence of which you have none for a Universe coming into being on its own. I don't present evidence out here in Atheist infested waters.

  • @MegaSage007 And why would that be?

  • @MGMT1580 No God No Universe. Anyone who believes the Universe came into being on its own is illogical. THE EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED UNIVERSE REQUIRES AN EXTRAORDINARILY SUPREMELY INTELLIGENT DESIGNER.

  • @MegaSage007 Who created God?

  • @wesj1989 God cannot be God if He was created or there would be an infinite regression until there were no more a creator of the last creator. God is eternal. He has no beginning and no end. He inhabits the Eternity of endless time. He never slumbers or sleeps. He is the supremely intelligent Designer of the supremely intelligently designed universe with the omnipotent powers, omnipresence and infinite understanding to be the A and the Z of all things seen and unseen.

  • @MegaSage007 "He has no beginning and no end". Can't the same be said of the universe and everything in it?

  • @wesj1989 If you understand God is the supremely intelligent Designer of the Universe whose omnipotence and infinite understanding is evident in its magnitutde, longevity and superiority then you can proceed to His Book where He explains through St Paul "all things seen are temporary while all things unseen are eternal. And since gravity and other laws God ordained are eternal we know the Universe has always been with Him eternally, even though it ages and He replaces age parts in due season.

  • @MegaSage007 why dont you write a scientific pper about it. truly, if your data is correct, you will be responsible for a huge breakthrough. nobel prise material.

  • @avalsonline2 Thankyou for the encouragement but unfortunately I do not trust the scientific community to objectively consider what they should have already perceived for themselves by now.

  • @MegaSage007 AAAAAAAAAAAH, YES, OFCOURSE, ITS ALL A GIANT CONSPIRACY. if i had a nickel for every time a christian said that, i would be able to pay off my school expences. the reason the scientific community has not found this out is the same reason you cannot write a paper on it. while a fascinating hypothesis, there is absolutely 0 evidence for it. 0 experiments you can run. a scientists will say, " i do not know". a fanatic will say " this proves god". ill take the scientist, thank you.

  • @avalsonline2 Ahhhh yes, another Atheist lunatic ranting irrationaly about no evidence when the countless cosmic bodies of the universe are all on auto pilot for billions of years and you can't design and put even one in orbit. Rant on but know this for a fact. There is no fanaticism necessary to logically perceive the universe is supremely intelligently designed, therefore there must be a supremely intelligent Designer with the omnipotent power & infinite wisdom to have created it.

  • @MegaSage007 apparently the majority of the scientific community ,atheist and theist, disagree.

  • @MegaSage007 actually the majority of scientists are theist of some kind. in US itsmostly christian, 60% i believe. sorry. the manjority of scientists agree there is no evidence or your god. absence of an answer to a beginning of the universe is not evidence of god.

  • @avalsonline2 Don't apologize to me for the unbelief of others. Your Maker gave you intelligence to see He made the Universe of all things seen and unseen. You have no excuse for not seeing it. As for me and mine we will enjoy the goodness of the Lord.

  • @MegaSage007 i am not appologising you gave me a faulty staement that all scintists are godless/atheist. i proved that statement wrong. if god was self evident, there would be no need for faith. there would be differences in religious beliefs, people would not be fighting over whose god is right.

    alas, god is not self evident, and faith is required to believe in him. i see faith as a retardant for exploration and research. hence i do not choose to engage in this barbaric ritual.

  • @avalsonline2 I know how blind men see. I deal with Atheists every day on IS ATHEISM LOGICAL?

  • @MegaSage007 now, let us say hypothetically that somebody did discover irrefutable evidence that the universe was created by an inteligent entity. how do you make the leap from that to the christian god, one described in the bible. FAITH, dear friend, PURE FAITH. so, dont acuse me of being blind when you have to close your eyes to natural truths in order to believe in your god.

  • @avalsonline2 You act like you just proved my belief in the God of the Bible wrong by your unbelief. Once you have perceived the Universe is supremely intelligently designer which means a supremely intelligent Designer is required with omnipotent powers and infinite unerstanding to have established it - then you should begin searching among the deities known to this world to see if you can make contact with and prove such to be the Designer as I have done.

  • @MegaSage007 i did not prove oyur belief wrong, i just boiled it down to nothing more than FAITH.

    tell me, how do oyu differentiate a universe that is inteligently designed vs one that was not inteligently designed?

  • @avalsonline2 The universe operates like clockwork on auto pilot for billions of years. You don't need anyone to say anything more about supreme intelligent design. What you need to do is realize you are serving your flesh in rebellion against your surpremely intelligent Designer who requires obedience from his people.

  • @MegaSage007 we can observe laws of physics. we know the way gravity and evergy work. to say that these natural forces are the result of an inteligent being requires extraordinary evidence. to say that this designer requires my obedience is a GIANT step in a whole other direction, and based on what, i do not know.

    you avoided my question, masterfully, i must say. what does a noninteligently designed universe look like? how do you differentiate the two?

  • @avalsonline2 There is no unintelligently designed universe.

  • @MegaSage007 so, then you have no basis for asserting that this one was inteligently designed. natural forces like gravity, conductivity and others are constant. they do work for billions of years. how did they start? i dont know. that is the same answer you will get from every honest scientist, theist or atheist. YOU are consumed by faith. you believe not only in a designer, but the christian version of one. you have no evidence to base this faith on. faith is inadequate. you need evidence

  • @avalsonline2 The supernatural supremely intelligently designed Universe is my proof. You are the one with no proof. All that is in the universe was designed and created by Almighty God. You are the one with no proof. Just theories. As soon as you admit to the supremacy of the design, look for the Designer.

    Good luck.

  • @MegaSage007 so, your proof for an inteligently designer is and inteligently designed universe? how do you know the universe was inteligently designed? because only an inteligent designer could do it. that is circular reasoning if i ever saw one.

    i am not making a claim here. my answer is, along with every scientist, is that nased on evidence collected, WE DO NOT KNOW.

    youare the one making the claim. you need evidence

  • @avalsonline2 You are blind to the fact the universe is supremely intelligently designed. You have fed yourself on lies to where you can't accept the truth anymore. There is no circular reasoning in perceivng the universe could not have created and designed itself, but that the infinite wisdom and omnipotent power necessary to create and design the universe proves a Suprme Being did it. You just need to find out who. I already know him and have experienced his divine nature many times.

  • @MegaSage007 i never said that the universe designed itself. i just said that based on EVIDENCE available, i do not know how.

    inteligently designed universe is an assertion. please give me evidence.

  • @avalsonline2 Once you recognize the universe is supremely intelligently designed the logical thing to do is look for the supremely intelligent Designer. But if you refuse the evidence the Supremely intelligent Designer who is obviously omnipotent and omniscient will hold you responsible for not doing what is obviously logical which is to love your Maker and your neighbor as much as you love yourself. Atheism is the opposite of what God wants for the world. It is the Devil's cult.

  • @MegaSage007ok, one thing at a time. let us focus on an inteligence creating the universe. if this is true, there must be evidence to support this. "knowing" and "recognising" is faith, the very opposite of research. so, what is the evidence for an inteligence creating the universe?

  • @avalsonline2 You're just making excuses. Countless cosmic bodies operating in orbits for billions of years on auto pilot without refueling or maintenance and you want to believe dumb matter and dumb energy designed what you with intelligence cannot do? A fruit tree reproducing itself. Animal, fish, vegetation all reproducing themselves. Everything self sustaining in the Universe. Once you recognize the evidence you search for the Supreme Being to find out why he created you.

  • @MegaSage007 this is an argument from ignorance. the " I DO NOT KNOW HOW ELSE TO EXPLAIN IT, THEREFORE IT MUST BE GOD" argument is a valid one and would not be accepted by most scientific minds. the systems that exist are far from self sustaining. matter and and energy constantly change shape and form. biological processes are continuous only up to a point. furthermore, we know how they work and supreme beings do not see to be required. now give me actual evidence for CREATION.

  • @avalsonline2 All your arguments are from ignorance.

  • @MegaSage007 OOOOOOOH, name calling, nice. THAT will get us somewhere, i am sure. look up the term "argument from ignorance". it is not an insult it is an assesment. you constantly point out that we do not know how the universe began. then you assert it was from an inteligence. lack of evidence is not in itself evidence. NOW, give me evidence for your creator, please.

  • @avalsonline2 I don't need to look up your rulebook which you Atheists use to take control of the many debates you like to get in to. All your arguments are from ignortance. Your first illogical and ignoRANT act was to choose open rebellion against your Maker in becoming an Atheist. From there all you have left to do is make up pathological lies to defend yourself.

  • @MegaSage007 first of all, an atheist cannot rebel against something he does not believe in.

    second of all, i did not write the rule book for the scientific method. in order to demonstrate a hypothesis (eg. an inteligent creator) one must present evidence and create an experiment). you, my dear, HAVE NO evidence, just a tonn of assertions

    third, you have not established the existance of a creator, yet you have already assigned him the qualities of YOUR god. faith, dogma, arrogance. ur dun

  • @avalsonline2 first of all, a Supreme being is obvious to anyone with common sense. Second of all, you do not get to decide what kind of discussion you are having with me so there is no rule book applicable to it, third, I do not need to establish the existence of a Creator, the sun coming over the horizon does that for Him every day. Fourth ur dun. u have dun yourself in by poisoning your mind and are beyond help and will be a beast on two legs all the ays of your life. Bye now.

  • @MegaSage007 hahaha. wooooow, well, that was fun. the camouflage of reson has been shed, revealing the beast of dogma within. this is what happens when people like oyu get cornered. ask for evidence, and you melt on sight. you have my pity.

  • @MegaSage007 I think you do not understand what 'ignorance' is. Blindly following a story, while not only dismissing anything that contradicts your belief, but avoiding the evidence altogether, is ignorant. If 'God' is so good and forgiving, why does he want people to suffer in hell for all eternity just for having doubt? The reason you are not allowed to take an honest look at evidence out there, is because you would have no choice but to change your beliefs,that is, unless you are ignorant..

  • @MilkPickle Mike you are in a pickle jar. Sinners do not suffer eternally in hell. They PERISH. Go to my life is hid dot com first selection menu, and type the word perish in the electronic concordance of the Bible and read what comes up. Sinners are "brought to naught." They are "consumed." They go up like "smoke." As to my blindly following my Lord, I teach how to follow Him literally. The training is free if you are willing to obey the command to give God all you are back to your Maker.

  • @MegaSage007 You're not going to learn anything accurate from a 2000 year old book. A book written by a series of ancient people who didn't know what the fuck was going on. The bible is full of horse shit, especially since we actually know how most of the world works now.

    There is no proof for god, however, and following him is literally blind (and foolish, mind you.)

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  • @ChiChoo29 tHE UNIVERSE IS GOD'S PROOF OF EXISTENCE. AND THE INTELLIGENCE HE HAS GIVEN YOU. COME TALK TO ME ABOUT IT ON "ATHEIST THEOLOGY. Its a hoax folks. video forum. Bye

  • @MegaSage007 No one knows how the universe came to be, not even Christians. Have no answer? Don't assume God did it. You have no reason to express that he did.

  • @MegaSage007 plagerised from former faiths is the bible the quran and the torah thicko. still its your self doubt thats splashed on an atheist video. self deceiving fools like yourself will always be treated like little children when wearing the god glassess in my presence. what now eh, time to play the fool has said in his heart,card etc. fear and guilt son and youv bought right into the delusion. take a bow champ. [wink]

  • @MegaSage007 You are wrong the spaghetti monster created it and when u die he eats your soul to process the memorys and then splits the clean soul back into anew body free to make new experiences.

  • @Thelondonbadger I'm over on "GOD DEFINES ATHEISTS ~ in the Bible" video forum for the moment if you want to talk about it.

  • @ChiChoo29 It's odd so many people believe in an ancient text written by people who couldn't do basic arithmatic.

  • @MegaSage007 Atheists can't prove there is no god; all of our arguments are merely counterarguments for religion in order to make a conclusion based on the response of you theists. When I say this, I am probably speaking for a lot of people, I am an atheist because I believe there is a lack of proof of god. I believe that this reason is why there are many atheists in the world. This lack of proof for god is because of the arguments you theists pull out of your asses.

  • All Christians are idiots, so whilst this is satire, CultOfDusty is funnier. Don't stop though, I appreciate the effort.

  • "Deny yourself (totally) give all you own to the poor and take up your cross and follow me." Jesus

    Sound easy?

    Try it sometime. Then come back and tell me how you like going without food, water, shelter and money not to mention clean clothes, showers and transportation.

    Get it?

  • @MegaSage007 Then shouldn't you be denying yourself internet access (totally)?

  • @digitaljez I'm here in the devil's playground to advise those with ears to hear you are playing with fire.

  • @MegaSage007 You are not walking the talk then. The infrastructure required to support an internet connection is a far cry from Luke 9:3.

  • @digitaljez Its always ironic to hear a sinner calling a righteous man a sinner. Jesus went in among sinners. I have been going in among sinners for 30 years now.

    Hypocrite!

    Atheism is a totally bankrupt illogical belief in unbelief. If you believed and obeyed the holy Word of God, the Holy Spirit would rejoice to reveal all truth to you; but as it is; you are left with diabolical delusions of darkness.

  • @MegaSage007 Hypocrite is a word you should avoid using when preaching about giving all you own to the poor while sitting in front of a computer in a cosy room.

  • @digitaljez You struck out at the plate in front of a great crowd of witnesses on that one. You are talking to an elderly man who traveled on foot with a Bible in the poverty of Christ sixteen years ~ continued on with amplified vehicles until declining health forced me to use a computer. So you'll have to find another accusation. My website theological libary of faith contains photographic proofs of what I am saying. Do you ever look for evidence before slinging accusations & slanders?

  • @MegaSage007 Sorry, I didn't realise you just had to clock up a minimum number of years of devotion. I imagined it was a life long commitment. My bad.

    Don't you know anyone with some experience in web design who would 'donate' their expertise and do something about your web page?

  • @digitaljez Well with your not liking the Universe and life the way God made it, it doesn't surprise me you wouldn't admit you have erred and apologize for it ~ but thats the way it is with pathological liars. You argue to win arguments. Lovers of truth argue to get to the truth. Have a nice life's journey on the way to where you do not want to go.

  • @MegaSage007 I am not arguing. I just wondered why your actions don't match your words. I did not realize you only have to clock in for sixteen years and then Jesus' words no longer apply to you. I must have missed that verse.

    Where did you get the idea I don't like the universe? I don't remember denying any facts about it. It is not as if I don't accept that the Earth is billions of years old or don't like the fact we share a common ancestor with the other great apes.

  • @MegaSage007 "Have a nice life's journey on the way to where you do not want to go. "

    Nice way to threaten someone with hell in a totally non-obvious way, jackass.

  • Clever but, much like the Darwin fish on the back of my car, I think it goes over the heads of your typical christians.

  • hahahaa.

  • 0:07 Adam Sandler? Haaha! Wooww.

  • religion is HARD. do u have any idea how hard it is to believe in complete nonsense that contradict with reality on a daily basis for the rest of ur life?

  • @Samura1gamer Well, why do you think everyone who understands how the world works doesn't believe in a god?

  • @MaoiMeowi2 Well why do you think everyone who thinks they understand how the world works doesn't believe in a god?

    Answer: They are wise in their own conceit, and there is more hope for a fool than them. Proverbs

    Read the holy Book for counsel from God. Listen to Atheists for counsel from Satan.

  • @Samura1gamer thats were faith comes in.

  • yea religion make us not evolve

    

  • @DURACEL22 why do you want to evolve, if everything you need is the simple things in life.

  • Haha, that was pretty funny dude. Nice work!

  • Should have put the price as "10% of your family's gross annual income".

  • @TheWordsNotSpoken Only if your momo.

  • BRILLIANT! Wish it were of a higher quality, but you get a SOLID A for effort on this!

  • The insipid nature of this video has inspired me, a lifelong atheist, to go to church out of spite. 

  • Say what you must about God but I will always know who has saved my life

  • @AlyssaIsAlive yeah, if you're ever in an accident and your life is hanging by a thread, tell the doctor he knows nothing and it's really god saving you. haha, i bet his arm might just...Slip.

  • yeah \m/

    let's make a qur'an version. :D

  • too bad christians dont come with a mute butten lol

  • LOL, that just made: favourites!

  • LOL Perfect metaphor! God = ...

  • Lolololololololololololololol!­!!

  • That was G-R-E-A-T! Thanks very much!!

  • You could have at least bought the bullshit button for this commercial.

  • The first one is good to stop poeple from sitting on the coach and drinking beer on a Sunday morning! But I am an athiest myself and I agree with the others.

  • The bible is the easy button for people who refuse to look at facts.

  • @RedLeprachaun Which facts are you referring to?

  • @AlyssaIsAlive The speed of light is a fact. The theory of gravity, and relativity are facts. The human genome project is a fact. The truth is that science saved your life from dark aged diseases. Humans are classified as the 5th ape, its a fact, I am not a liberal fruitcake trying to deceive you, you asked me for some facts.

    Please, do not deny yourself enlightenment! Learn all that you can about the science vs creation debate,

    the theory of evolution gave us modern biology, embrace it!

  • @RedLeprachaun lol bzzztttt

  • What makes those god botherers think that the Greek pantheon isn't real?

  • God says: Evolution is not real, unless they manage to prove it, then it was my creation too XD

  • Do that with a koran near a Mosque,  i dare ya. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA !

  • its a good concept but you could have done better.... the audio was kinda crap and to make it more realistic you could have made it a faster pace, maybe a bit more exciting. Still pretty funny tho!!

  • @TheMasterHippy we agree - sometimes I want to pull our old stuff but it's still the ideas that count- this was shot in late 2005 for a video sketch night and we put it on here - at the time it was the best we could do... youtube partnership and three tv series later - we're getting a little better haha

  • @cynicallytested Why not redo it? Sure people would love a modern redo.

  • Imagine if this ad were run down here! The Xians would revolt! (I tried to come up with a "revolting" joke, I sad!) They have commericals, bus ads, subway ads, billboards and church signs! Those poor, perscuted bastards!

  • Frikin Hilarious

    I #LOL 'd 10 times

  • I would enjoy this if the guys voice wasn't so annoying...

  • id like it would be too easy, but its not to be a christian in a world of ignorance and (like people of this commercial) arrogance.

  • The fool believes, the wise knows.

  • @SciNonymous10

    The wise knows??

    You want to try that again?

  • @618033988749 I did, and I was correct.

  • @SciNonymous10

    Oh my god...

    It would be:

    "The fool believes, the wise man knows."

    or,

    "Fools believe, the wise know."

    What you wrote was retarded. I didn't have a problem with your sentiment.

  • @618033988749

    1) I am not an american, nor british. Therefore, my English is not first language.

    2) You are giving importance to the stupid grammatical errors, which everyone could have( that includes you).

    3) I don't give importance to my grammar in youtube as I wish to do different things in the computer and real life.

  • @SciNonymous10

    I had no idea. Please disregard my correction of your English.

  • @SciNonymous10 that's not the best thing to say for 2 reasons; 1. Many theists supposedly "know" that their god exists 2. There is no proof that god does not exist, so one (such as an atheist) cannot validly say they know that a god does not exist.

  • @MsHojat yeah dude, don't try to reason God's existance you'll just hit a dead-end. it's like saying you can't proof big-foot doesn't exist. you can't show something doesn't exist because there's nothing to show.

  • god is not a puppet that you can control at your will, we are here to do his will, not him ours. he was here 2000 years ago and even then few believed in him. there is actual proof that a man named Jesus, lived and died on a cross. think about this, if god does not exist. I have nothing to loose. however if he does . and I know he does.... many will be lost eternally...it won't be funny then will it..mighty big gamble anteing up your soul.... psalm 53:1

  • @dimension63 Have you any idea how many mans named Jesus lived in that time, it was one of the most common names. I feel sorry about you, believing in god because of fear.

  • @dimension63 I pray for you to convert to right religion. You decide. If you surrender and love the only true creator Invisible Pink Unicorn - you will be eternally blissed. If you deny Her, you must pay the in realm of total chaos. Actually you have nothing to lose - just accept Her as the only god and you are saved. Dont gamble with your soul! I will pray for you to recognise the only Truth. May She bring peace!!

  • The "problems" and "solutions" proposed in this video are a heretically false depiction of Christianity and God's word. This type of misinformation seems to be the most popular form of anti-Christian preaching these days... to mischaracterize faith and grace and then debunk it.

  • @lavideomania Actually the best way to deconvert from this ridiculous religion is to read the whole bible :-D As it happened to me! Then I found that atheists recommend this as a best cure LOL :-)))) I cant believe that I was such stupid to believe those fairytales, human sacrifices, genocides etc. to be true.

  • @J0EH3AD The only way to know and love God is to understand the Bible, not just read it. It's not enough to just "read the whole bible" and then reject it on grounds that are completely inconsistent with Christian teaching.

  • @lavideomania "It's not enough to just 'read the whole bible' and then reject it on grounds that are completely inconsistent with Christian teaching." So, how does one reject the bible on grounds that ARE consistent with christian teaching? I'm unsure of the point you're trying and failing to make.

  • @Ebzhent My point obviously has to do with rejection of scripture on the basis of misrepresentations. If you correctly understand Christian theology, but in your heart of hearts disagree with it, then that is a personal basis for rejecting the Bible. But if you misconstrue the meaning of the Bible, intentionally or not, and make false claims concerning Christian faith, that would be both fatally cynical and logically inconsistent.

  • @lavideomania "... fatally cynical and logically inconsistent." So you're saying that the bible is logically consistent in its entirety? And how would one be fatally jaded regarding the integrity and/or motives of others?

    I think sometimes you use big words when you don't completely understand their meanings. Does that make me fatally cynical?

  • @Ebzhent "So you're saying..." -- no, I wasn't saying anything about that one way or another. I simply pointed out the logical consistency of misrepresenting something and then attacking it as such--also known as a straw man fallacy. I didn't say anything about being jaded (which is not equivalent to cynical). You are welcome to draw your own conclusions on whether I understand the meaning of what I say. But I'm not interested in playing games.

  • @lavideomania First off, please give your definition of cynical. Second, what happens when a christian "misconstrue[s] the meaning of the Bible... and make[s] false claims concerning Christian faith" - are they also fatally cynical? Out of curiosity, to which sect of christianity do you belong? And I'm not asking you to play games, I'm asking you to defend statements you make in a public forum. As you said, "If you don't want to be bothered, the solution for you is simple: simply go away."

  • @Ebzhent You may assume a dictionary definition of cynical. All people (including Christians) are capable of being logically inconsistent, but misrepresentation of a faith's teachings is particularly cynical.  I don't belong to any "sect" of Christianity. Your sincere questions are more than welcome.

  • @lavideomania "jaded regarding the integrity and/or motives of others" is an acceptable paraphrase of what I consider the most relevant definition from dictionary,com - just wanted to know what your definition was. If you don't belong to any particular flavor of christianity, are there any sects that you think have their interpretation of the bible completely wrong? or do you base your beliefs from the bible and nothing else? I'm trying to figure out what type of apologist/literalist you are.

  • @Ebzhent I'm not interested in (nor would it be possible in 500 chars) dissecting sectarian differences here--I don't think it's relevant in a forum where such distinctions pale compared to the gross misrepresentations being offered. If you want to know on of my view of scripture and interpreting it, feel free to read my other commenst (already posted). I'm not inclined to push my personal interpretations as absolute, anyway, except to challenge the most gross misrepresentations of my faith.

  • @lavideomania "I'm not inclined to push my personal interpretations as absolute, anyway, except to challenge the most gross misrepresentations of my faith." You seem to be refusing to define your faith, then you get pissy when someone 'grossly misrepresents' your faith.

    So, specifics: view on homosexuality, requirements to get into heaven/paradise, and what other topics on this page are 'gross misrepresentations'?

  • @Ebzhent I haven't at all refused to define my faith. Read my other posts.

  • @lavideomania Again, please answer the question.

    specifics: view on homosexuality, requirements to get into heaven/paradise, and what other topics on this page are 'gross misrepresentations'?

  • @Ebzhent Just at the outset, to answer some ideas offered in this video: If someone's approach to a relationship with God is to go to church for social activities, or to seek eternal life without having to work at it, or use faith as an "excuse to hate fags," I would say their theology is way off. By presenting an "easy" button on top of a Bible and by iconic reference to Christianity, the implied message is that these accurately represent Christian doctrines. I disagree.

  • @lavideomania We both know that the video is a parody, and therefore can't be taken too seriously. As far as the social aspect, I know atheists that attend church services just to socialize with the people in their community. While there might be a minority that need religion as an excuse to "hate fags," there are a great many people that hate them for purely religious reasons. As far as I know, the concept of eternal life for the individual does not exist outside of religion.

  • @Ebzhent While it's possible to see the video as a parody of false religion, I think the net is cast too broadly (mischaracterization of genuine faith by omission). So I take it seriously.

    The fact that some people go to church for self-serving or contra-Biblical reasons doesn't change anything I've said about my own faith. And finally, the concept of individual eternal life is certainly not confined to religion.

  • @lavideomania "it's possible to see the video as a parody" well, I knew it was a parody because it said so in the description. You may want to look up parody, sarcasm, and caricature; these are elements of humor you sadly seem to be missing.

    "the concept of individual eternal life is certainly not confined to religion." Ok, the concept appears in some fantasy/scifi fiction also, but I can't think of any others. Please tell me any that I'm missing?

  • @Ebzhent I'm not particularly interested in answering factual questions I'm sure you're capable of researching yourself. As far as parody goes, I am entitled to my interpretation. Call propaganda whatever you want but it's still propaganda.

  • @lavideomania "doesn't change anything I've said about my own faith." But you really haven't said anything about your own faith. Going back through over a year of comments on this page, these are the comments I found that *somewhat* describe your belief system:

    "The only way to know and love God is to understand the Bible, not just read it." "I don't belong to any "sect" of Christianity."

    Maybe I'm missing something. Or maybe you're not interested in defining your belief system.

  • @Ebzhent My mistake, I thought originally you were posting from a different video page where I extensively described my beliefs. Point taken.

  • @lavideomania Please dont bother me with your primitive bronze age religion. And dont write to me. Thanks. Find folks of same ilk.

  • @J0EH3AD This is a public forum.  You responded to something I wrote... so I'll reply back if I choose to. If you don't want to be bothered, the solution for you is simple: simply go away. I understand that in your world, you would prefer to censor differences in point of view, or perhaps deliver your cynical attack and then act the part of a victim when someone rebuts your complaint. I'm sorry but that's not how I think. Praise God...

  • its not about religion..its about having a relationship with God. U can change your religion and beliefs everyday if u pleased but when you are in a relationship with someone its not that easy to switch the truth for a lie because u have gotten to know and Love them.

  • Wow, Christians sure do have a lot to say about their god. I wonder if their god will ever become able or willing to speak for himself.

    A mute god that hides is being promoted by people who just can't shut up about him. lol!

  • Well said sir! Well said!

  • Jesus fought the religious and made fools of them...dont turn to religion for answers, turn to God.

  • ChuckAllaway - If worshipping God isn't religion, then what is it? What do you call the act of worshipping god?

    It seems like lots of Christians know that religion is harmful, so they're trying to get away from it. What they miss is that their religion doesn't exclude God, it begins with God.

  • so your saying

    -Religion-the act of worshipping God? not a very good definition. And just the oppopsite, Christianity started as having a relationship with Christ/ the creator of the universe, and man has slowly turned it into religion. Not once in the Bible does anyone say to be religious, and like i said before,, Jesus attacked the religous ( pharisees) and made fools of them every time, never did He atack His followers, and believers, just the religious. Religion is man made.