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  • apologize to butthurt faggots

  • NOBODY CHOOSES TO BE GAY JESUS CHRIST

  • Bill Clinton was not impeached because he had an affair, he was impeached because he lied under oath about said affair. These guys are morons.

  • Liars tell false information, theives take ur shit, adulterers sleep with your wife/gf/husband. and what do homosexuals do? Listen i know u think 2 guys fucking eachother in the ass is bad but tough fucking shit. What if u had a foot fetish? can i say your pathetic because i think its nasty? they keep their sex lives to themselves.

  • CHRIS31088,while put off with all that ass fucking you champion & promote I couldn't help but notice the play on your words," wouldn't 2 guys fucking each other in the ass be the exact opposite of a tough shit? I love pretty feet,they are on last part of a women.most time if a women takes great care of her feet everything else is great as well. but on the unlikely oft chance If I ever wanted to fuck feet they would only be nasty if shit was left on my dick & the feet belong to my buddy MARK. :(

  • Well you think its nasty, as i said b4, tough shit. O and i do not "champion" butt fucking, i even think its nasty if us males do it to females, but i still think it should be allowed between 2 consenting adults. So i am left wondering where do u stand on the issue? because it seems that u commented on my play of words and saying shit on ur dick is nasty.  So please elaborate.

  • as I said before ,the play off your words( and now to remedially elaborate) , to take a shit ,no longer would be a " tough shit " if your ass walls are wore out from cocks,now would it? seems to me shitting then would be the least toughest thing you can do? you mentioned "nasty".I said what's more nasty than "shit". why is this clear concise english so hard for you to understand? if you must know,procreation's future &"death std's " comes to my mind when I give the issue thought .

  • Boy u really are an asshole, who said i didnt understand ur play on words that u made up in my own paragraph? o well, i guess it's too much to ask for a "clear and concise answer" from you other than me assume based on "the future of procreation"

  • CHRIS,how would U not expect me to now tell you to go fuck yourself ,if your gonna call me an asshole? but I digress & refuse to stoop to that low with you. your question simply read as if you didn't understand my comment. seeing how it was written to be understood with ease,I was frustrated repeating myself,I wasn't a prick or an asshole.sarcastic at best, perhaps.+ don't assume you know,it's a trait that clearly embodies being an asshole. if you wanna know try asking with a bit of class.peace.

  • bahahah ooh did my asshole-like behavior offend ur asshole-like behavior? If i ask what ur ur stance i want a direct answer i.e. Yes i do not want gays to marry, or no i would like them to have that right. instead u said : "if you must know,procreation's future &"death std's " comes to my mind when I give the issue thought" that makes me assume u are against gay marriage, where as i fucking wanted a direct answer. Fucking hell good riddance.

  • Sorry , but NO, your being an asshole only reflects on self it doesn't affect me in the least bit. I just enjoy exposing idiots & taking the high road in the process of doing so. I'm only shocked & taken aback when most aren't assholes. after filling in punctuations for you I clearly came to know what you thought you were expressing.+ you indirectly asked & I answered accordingly. opting to leave it short & sweet b/c too figure out what your hoping to express bores me ,which makes a debate moot.

  • bahahahaha, sure whatever makes u sleep at night buddy, at least i have the balls to say im an asshole. O and im still wondering why u still think ur taking the high road while doing ad homonim attacks against my spelling, as if that counted. o well have a nice life ya prick.

  • CHRIS31088,I don't pick on the mentally unarmed. I'm a asshole when the competition is warranted. If you can't spell & punctuate to express what your trying to say , who has the patience to deal with you then? how is your short comings my fault? peace genius, and try to cease with the lame emails, take a well written hint, you've been dispatched,dismissed & all ready officially told to fuck off. I'm sure anyone else reading your mindless febal diatribe would concur. get a hobby LAME.

  • Like i said b4, have a nice life ya prick.

  • You really took the high road here by calling him an idiot. This isn't even a debate it's just two morons who can't just say what they mean ("I want to have sex with you, let's meet") and instead you two pretend to debate about a non issue. Gay marriage should be legal because the only real argument against it is religion and my rebuttal happens to be the 1st amendment. "Procreations's future"? Yeah because surrogacy is impossible and gays are out to convert everyone to stop having children.

  • MSMAGPELICAN, 2months ago might tell most that this is now a dead issue.how that escapes U,is beyond me.

    who said it ever was a debate?looks like 2 pple leaving comments to me. so go fuck yourself faggot. I don't care what U think the real issue on gay marriage is.the mere thought of it is disgusting & illegal. your dad must be heart broken to know that he didn't produce a real man. shame on U for that. now U want to make more freaks by paying some lady to have U a baby?that's selfish & cruel.

  • Actually gay marriage is legal in a couple of states and you think it's disgusting. It's not disgusting objectively. I don't know why you feel the need to call me hateful names (it sounds like someone is insecure) but just so you know I'm straight but I support equality for homosexuals. Even if I was gay, I wouldn't give a fuck what my dad thought about the issue. Shame on me? How is it selfish of someone to ask (or pay) a surrogate to have their baby? How is it cruel?

  • MsMagnPelicn,WTF part of I was done w/ this BS 2mnths ago so fuck off,are you having trouble with?

    don't play that bitch victim soft roll w/ me. you sent me a fucked up message so you felt my wrath. deal w/ it.

    U can tell yourself whatever U need to. every child deserve a happy healthy life & the choice to agree w/ taking it up the ass. you wanna buy a child & deprive it of not having to deal w/ that ridicule & shame is down right selfish & cruel. people aren't meant to be payed for. THE END X

  • My hypothesis is that you have a sub-average sized penis and therefore must call me names like bitch and faggot and say things like "you felt my wrath, deal with it" and also (as far as my understanding of your comment goes) create lies about how homosexual parents will sodomize their children. I agree that every child should be provided with a healthy life that will provide them with a modicum of happines and I don't see any reason that a same sex couple can't provide this.

  • People weren't mean to do anything but survive. Since prostitution is widely considered the oldest profession I would have to say that our thought process has brought us to the conclusion that we will sell ourselves if we find that the benefits outweigh the costs.

  • we're happy for ya.

  • meant*

  • how can you compare homosexuality to thievery ?!

    on what ground are the two the alike ?!

    one is a CHOICE and the other is part of you which you're born with

    Ignorancy is everywhere -.-

  • ignorancy? I agree with you, but what the fuck?

  • South Carolina, it's time to clean up your act, and bounce this trash you STILL have the nerve to call governor!

  • The Young Turks tell it like it is. Congrats. The religious right wing is just crumbling before our eyes. No loss.

  • Mark Sanford is a hypocritical bastard and I suspect so are all right-wing Christian Coalition idiots.

  • Question: which is worse--

    A) Gov. Sanford's failure to remain faithful

    or B) my homosexual, but faithful, relationship with my partner of 4 years? I pray for Gov Sanford and for his wife and kids. No one is perfect, least of all me, so I'm in no position to judge. I wish the Sanfords and all the people of the great state of South Carolina lots of healing in the tough days ahead.

    David Jay Patterson

  • My vote goes to Cenk for Governor of SC!!!1

  • sanford is a creepy weasel. He keeps digging himself deeper. He needs to move to Argentina for good.

  • "Republican" is English for "hypocrisy".

  • Liberal, a seven letter word is short for gay, a three letter word.?

    I don't understand your logic.

  • seriously?

  • No,you're just stupid

  • Thank you.

  • bill clinton gets cock sucked in the white house and not the first time he cheated on the hag hillary tell me about libbers family values

    oh and let not forget john edwards and his loooooove baby

  • damn i dont give a damn

  • Are people so blind? Both parties are full of money power hungry hypocrites. Obama says he wants gov. health plan but wouldn't use it (just like public schools for his girls)? Does no one see hypocrisy there? Watch youtube. Anyone who cheats on their spouse is wrong. Instead of listening to what men say, read what Jesus actually says John 8:7 --"If any one of you is without sin let him be the first to throw a stone at her" That goes for everybody, every sin.

  • Very astute. The hypocrisy is astounding.

    Wonder what message he sent to his four sons about being a husband and father. Especially on Father's Day. At least Democrats don't wear their morals on their sleeves.

  • u shud apologize for writing this stupid ass comment that nobady wants to see

  • there is nothing inherently sacred about marriage. if any proof of this is needed you need look no further than the high divorce rates, the tv shows where people compete to marry millionaires, or even the continual and inevitable reoccurence of scandals like this one. all proof, mounting proof, that there is nothing there for gay people to 'undermine' in the first place.

  • I'm a lesbian from SC and though Sanford has stood up for us in the state, he has been a great Governor, except for abusing his office for personal e-mails and using our taxpayer $ to see his mistress, though he said he was going to pay it back. But he's been a bad husband. As I stated I am a lesbian, but I would like to see the hostile gay group that went into churches and threw condoms on the floor, harrassing church members and disrupting church service, apologize to those churches.

  • There's a group that does that? Yeesh, what on earth are they trying to prove? Surely that would hurt the gay rights movement a heck of a lot more than help it.

  • I read the story on aol and it showed them outside the church, laughing and looking smug. There was about 8 of them. When gays and lesbians cop an in-your-face-attitude and do these like this, is it any wonder why straight folks don't accept the lifestyle. They are part of the problem. When Perez Hilton called Will I. Am a thug, GLAAD did chastice Perez. I can't can't Perez. But anyway, notice gay rights parades and the attitudes.

  • I think Bill Clinton is a bag of shit for lying to the nation. I think Bill Clinton is a bag of shit for cheating on his wife. I think Bill Clinton was a great president and America was lucky to have him in charge.

    I think Sanford is worse because he is a hypocrite, an adulterer, and a liar. Seriously, if you want to be a moral authority be sure you promote the morals that you have.

  • You are right on the money but the prick will never go that far;to apologies to the gay community ,I'll not hold my breath.

  • Exactly what I'm thinkin', dude.

  • really?

  • Marriage is nothing more then a legal contract, when will people see that?

  • i love TyT my favorite youtube show.

  • cenk keeps harping on "gay issues" b/c a certain group of people rely on a fucking book written 4,000 years ago to subjugate and reject civil rights for a group of human beings

    god, if you think that everyone who believes in gay rights has to be a homosexual, you really are a neanderthal

  • FANTASTIC research on this. Looking forward to this right-winger doing the right thing.

  • HEAT! That's fucking crazy - I didn't even see this video and I watched Heat the yesterday day! In fact this is one of the few videos I didn't watch - It's like some weird ass psychic ESP type shit!

  • I bloody love Heat!

  • hypocrisy of a politician as shown through video. another republican that supposedly takes the high road but ends up "being gay", "liking prostitutes", or "having affairs".

  • Gimme a Break!

    Everyone knows Politicians are bastions of hypocrisy & corruption! Sheesh!

  • What Sanford did was horrible in a lot of ways, and in some ways worse than Clinton. But its not the same Clinton slept with a college intern a subordinate in the oval office. As far as I know there are laws against this but I could be wrong. It was wrong what Clinton did. The Republicans ran amok with it politically as they tend to do . I think that is one of the biggest reasons why Gore lost the election is because he was synonymous with Clinton's affair. Fairly or unfairly.

  • hypocrite

    One entry found.

    Main Entry:hyp·o·crite

    Pronunciation:\ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\

    Function:noun

    Etymology:Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritēs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai

    Date:13th century

    1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion

    2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings

    — hypocrite adjective

  • being american should be illegal, u are fucking warcriminals and terrorists, go and hang yourself

  • who are you to judge, mother fucker!

  • what great country might you be from?

  • Do you have a comment about the clip? Okay, you do not take a liking to the U.S. But do you have anything relevant to say about the clip?

  • Listen to this fucking Sanford....Just another typical fucking hypocritical GOP bastard. And he still thinks that he deserves to be Governor! Good God! And it is not even the devistation to his wife, what message is he sending his 4 sons. Off with his balls!

  • Wow. Go fuck yourself you racist asshole.

    And BTW, Bush Hussein Hitler would go better, seeing as Bush took away your rights, just like the other two did to their own people.

  • yea sanford is just another stupid american

    be anti-american, be anti-warcriminals!

  • Haha, the internet. Giving idiots like xjv8 a voice for over a decade.

  • americans are a bunch of warcriminals, no1 has commited more warcrimes, the united disgrace of america is destroying our world, and they wont stop, we need to wake up and give them what they deserve! be anti-america be anti-warcriminals and massmurderers

  • Yes, I agree, pointless babblings from some kid who knows shit about politics, history and human nature IS the best way to help save the world. Keep fighting the good fight.

  • the united disgrace is the biggest warcriminal, stop lying about it, stop lying to yourself, u are worse than nazis

  • the main media is the US, they spread their lies and ignorance all around the world

  • True... Very true.

  • The mainstream media? Have you ever watched a clip of any of NBC's or ABC's newscasts? They are not only unbiased, they always back up their stories with proven facts and a variety of opposing and approving viewpoints. The only media that is obviously spreading lies and ignorance is FOX channel, and the totaly biased liars they hire as pundits, which (I am not exaggerating) can brainwash people into believing just about anything, all because they want better ratings and bigger paychecks.

  • All Networks on main television are owned by these Zionist Jews part of the Illuminati, who form these secret societies.. WHICH BTW you probably don't know shit about, and thus making this character you adore so much be hated by realist like my self, for not speaking to the public about the truth behind the curtains of government. YOU SERIOUSLY THINK YOUR ELECTED LEADERS CAME ABOUT BEING IN THE POSITIONS THEY ARE IN BY THE the people's choice... To start, the choice was never the people's..

  • People are so gullible to think our so called elected leaders are out to take care of our needs, when we work and work to pay off these monsters who only get fatter and fatter, richer and richer off our hard working money.. You find the money you make being taxed to be placed back in circulation, to then be be taxed some more, placing us in a higher debt we'll never get out of, UNLESS we place our children in debt making them slaves of who? US? NO MOTHER FUCKER THEM! those monster behind gov.

  • You are an idiot who was obviously brainswashed by idiotic super conservatives to think that the media somehow has a liberal bias, THEY DON'T! For every one of his videos, Cenk exposes the reality of conservatives, liberals, and the media. He is not only honest but he is a positive influence on americans.

  • you're a scam

  • ...you sound really educated

  • The argument Cenk presents doesn't hold up. If you do one thing it doesn't necessarily make another thing untrue even though they seem to cross in his personal case. Like if Sanford had said "the koran says kill the infidels" and he then himself killed a jew for being jewish, his first statement would still be true.

  • pwned

  • why apologize now? IF you lie,insult and degrade someone, you should apologize. Hell, you Shouldn't do it in the first place!!!

  • funny, cuz many other nations and a few US states have gay marriage, yet they're doing just fine. In fact, they have better healthcare,education and economy. It would seem that having gay marriage Helps a nation. But hey, don't let the truth and facts change your ignorant, hateful and simply Wrong preconceptions. Stay Beautiful America!

  • How do you figure? Adultery is in the 10 commandments whereas homosexuality is not.

  • If you had proof of the existance of god, I might agree.

  • First of all, I hate how lunatics make out God to be a lunatic just like them. Second of all, this isn't about whether or not an affair is bad, it's about the fact he used taxpayer money to fund his little sojourns, not to mention outright abandoning his state.

  • well said ExtremeAvalanche..

  • I am not a liberal, I hate to see my tax dollars being wasted on welfare programs, I think that there should be minimum flat rate tax for everyone regardless of income tax bracket and etc.

    But I'd rather vote for dems then for these hypocrite republicans. One day I watch a video about a member of a faith commitee republican politician being a pimp, next day I read about another republican licking a whip cream off of a hooker's breast, and now this Sanford guy. Wow. Just wow.

  • *than

  • You're exactly right. If republicans want to protect the institution of marriage, they should be focusing on illegalizing divorce and adultery.

    And gay sex in airport bathrooms while married.

  • Has anyone else noticed the incongruity that while Sanford thinks he has a duty to the people of South Carolina to remain in office he also thought it was OK to disappear for a week without even telling his second in command that he was out of the country. Maybe he believes in Bible logic just as he believes in Bible science.

  • Mark Sanford : "Do as I say, not as I do"

  • THis remind sme of that old Cosby SHow bit, in which Theo is telling lies, and Cliff gets up and moves away from him, saying something to the effect of, "I don't want to be near you when the lightning strikes."

    I'd advise the same for anyone near Mark Sanford right now.

  • Wow, what an obscure reference. Not that I disagree at all.

  • Thanks. I specialize in the obscure. And no, I'm not named Jude. ;-)

  • Gay people are almost always better people than these evil, hypocritical, rightwing assholes.

  • Sanford didn't do the same exact thing as Clinton did. Clinton committed perjury.  That's the difference.

  • hahaha....is that your response to me? Really?

    I don't know, but with a response like that, I don't think I'm the idiot.

  • Sanford's affair was happening from at least a full year ago. According to him his family has known about it for most of this year. Strictly speaking, he has been lying about this for quite some time. Your perjury difference really amounts to the fact that liberals are not puritanical witch hunters. If he is put on impeachment trial and tenaciously questioned about his trail hiking lie, would he commit perjury or come completely clean?

  • First of all, what Sanford did was wrong...completely wrong. I won't defend him one bit. And what brings his affair into the political spectrum is that it did affect his job performance. You just can't leave for a few days like that. And he has been lying, you're right, but he hasn't been lying under oath in court. So while what he did was absolutely wrong, it's not nearly the same as committing perjury. If they choose to impeach him, you won't hear much argument from me.

  • I want to add, I'm not defending Clinton getting blowjobs from a college intern. It is a serious abuse of authority and a potential danger to the office. Obviously, Sanford is in a similar boat: not with abusing his authority, but definitely compromising his office. Both men horribly insulted their wives.

  • And I don't know if he'd commit perjury or come clean in the trial. I don't see how he'd stupid enough to lie when everyone knows the truth, but hey, it's happened before.

  • I commend you in being straight up with your reply. Why is that so rare?

    Sanford seems to not want to lie, but he is not being fully honest. If he had more integrity he would resign his office. That is the fact that makes me think he is not so different from Clinton. Clinton's perjury was in defense of his office, he fooled no one. So I disagree with you in thinking this is about stupidity or cleverness. If perjury would keep him in office perhaps Sanford would do it too.

  • haha....some people are just too childish to be able to have a discussion with someone they disagree with. I appreciate your respect and I respect your views.

    I wasn't referring to Clinton when I said "it happened before." But you bring up a good point about the reason for perjury, and I agree with you.

  • For Sanford to sincerely apologize to all the people he owes it to would require him to develop a level of moral responsibility that he has never shown previous to this scandal.

  • Sanford told his wife and kids already you dope!! Be honest!

  • He should be apologizing to the citizens of South Carolina for wasting their tax dollars on his "trips" to get some side action in a foreign country and abandoning his state without even telling his freakin lieutenant governor.

    Discuss.

  • "He should be apologizing to the citizens of South Carolina for wasting their tax dollars on his "trips""

    Apologize my ass. This goes are *well* beyond apologies. He should resign, pay back the money, and possibly be prosecuted for misuse of state funds.

  • Word.

  • i love the irony.

  • Amen lol

  • Amen & amen

  • amen!!!

  • oh my god i love this vid we should push this guy to say he is sorry

  • its a free country, stop trying to make people apologize for stuff.

  • The hypocritical-ness is oh so delicious!!

  • hypocrisy*

  • haha...I know thanks.

  • 4 words bill clinton elliot spitzer

    you cunt liberals stop whining

  • lol are we the party of so-called "family values" are we the ones keeping gays from getting married because it might destroy marriage? even though this idiot governer doesnt think having an affair might destroy marriage... listen dumbass no ones whining.. they are simply pointing out typical right wing hypocrisy. thats all.

  • i love this story!!!

    i cant get enough lol.

  • Puts me in mind of an old sun lolly advert...

    "We don't undermine marriage. You do! You do! You do!"

  • WTF PWNED. I am so ashamed of the fact that he is my governor.

  • Oh I love watchin this conservative gettin exposed for the hypocritical scumbag he is. I like how he is talkin shit about politicians havin affairs YET he eventually did the same shit AHAHA!

  • Sandford has strongly opposed gay marriage because he believes marriage should be between one man and one woman...and...er...eh...and...­eh...one mistress.

  • it was said on the video

    -sandford said that gay marriage undermines marriage but he goes on and has an affair

  • Because Sanford says Gay marriage ruins the sacriety of marriage. Then he goes out and cheats on his wife. The hypocrisy is what connects the 2 situations.

  • Since you're so confused I'll explane...The big reason he gave us for being against gay marriage was that it undermines the sanctity of marriage. Then he undermines his marriage by cheating, proving that he's not actualy concerned with the sanctity of marriage. This insight shows us that the sanctity of marriage thing is just an excuse and a talking point and not something truly believed by the hypocritical bigots like Sanford that use it to deny gay people the right to marry. Got it now?

  • indimusiclover, You are totally right. Gay marriage should be legal. And whats with these anti-drug laws. Hell yea, all drugs should be legal. And prostitution should also be legal. Its a victimless crime. And I should also be allowed to have 3 wives if I choose. And whats this crap about gun control. Whats with all these moralizing self-righteous hypocritical bigots who are denying us our rights. I want, no I demand, justice now. Wow, thanks, I have seen the light. I got it now.

  • If you want 3 wives and they all agree they can share you equally and they all sign that contract... I give my blessing fully. Prostitution is considered the world's older profession. I mean you can go out with someone... have a meal and go home and have sex. The only difference between this and prostitution is money is exchanged.

  • I agree with your sarcasm to an extent. Gay marriage should be legal, as long as no fag touches me i'm cool with it. I can see legalized weed too, i've never done drugs but i've seen alcohol and cigarettes destroy more lives than weed every will. Poligamy isn't cool though, we don't need these mormons getting out of hand....(i live in utah, wasn't born here, quite a culture shock) LOL

  • i agree indimusiclover

  • He's SO done.. Nutcase or just another lieing politican?

  • Yup! Gay marriage would SO ruin the sanctity of marriage! There's nothing more holy and sacred than fucking around behind your spouse's back and abandoning your kids to get some fresh pussy!

    ...That comment made me sad. I'm going to another country to cry for several days.

    -Tabris

  • Now, I I don't believe in gay marriage, but I'm not so narrow-minded as to hate homosexuals for their personal choices.

    That being said, I'm a faithful Christian, and even I agree that Sanford needs to take some kind of action OTHER than the normal apology act. Regardless of your stance on gay marriage, hypocrisy is hypocrisy, and people with this sort of behavior should be held to higher accountability, because it's obvious that sometimes this "leadership" role is too much responsibility.

  • Senator Daiper David Vitter did the same thing and he was caught with a hooker.

    Funny thing is republicans still support Vitter to fight for their false family values .

  • WHAT A LOSER SANFORD

  • You really believe that he began his affair last year,when Gov.Sanford said he met her online 8 years ago.come on.with his money I bet he took a plane the next month to screw his mistress..

  • Cenk, I love you. Sanford should apologize to Clinton. Sanford should apologize to the Gay community. You know what? Sanford should apologize to puppies, because cheating is worse than kicking a puppy. And also, um, us. Sanford should apologize to us for distracting our easily distracted attention from the economy and MJ's death and the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. And, um, toilets. He should apologize to the toilets for all the puking that's occurred since we've read his emails.

  • I'm sensing a little sarcasm. ^_^

    The "bottom line" Sanford has is that he held others up to his own Christian standards... then couldn't uphold them himself. It takes a lot of gall to be *that* kind of hypocrite. His Clinton comments, his track of treatment of gays, his obviously false campaign as a "family man."

    And yes, the toilets.

    Anyway... yeah, he's made clear who he is. But you won't see him step down, because republicans typically feel entitled to their positions regardless

  • Of course I totally agree with you. He is a hypocrite: by his own standards he should resign and get the hell out of public life.

    I just love that we had two "Sanford must apologize to" clips in two days. Those were my suggestions for future "Sanford must apologize to" segments. :-D

  • I have no prob.with someoe cheating UNLESS that person has Legislated his Supposed Morality on others.....then that's HYPOCRACY!

  • Once again, Cenk gets it right. Sanford and the whole Republican Party is full of it. They need to drop down on their knees and apologize for all the hypocritical, judgemental BS they've been guilty of all these years.

  • You've got to love the video of Mark Sanford being a hypocrite. Just awesome.

  • He should step down - not just because he's a lying prick - but he's SO BORING!

  • The man should step down.. not because of his lack of family values and immorality but instead because he abandoned his post as governor without informing anyone and he used the tax payers money in an unapproved manner.

  • Yeah I think your right he should, the Republican Party needs to have a meeting and get rid of all the sic-os.

  • soooo... who would conclude the meeting and compile the minutes and notes after the Repubs kick all of themselves out? haha

  • Thats why you get the new members at the start of the meetings.

  • He's such an a--. It's not gays that "undermine" marriage, it's not gays that are a threat to the "sanctity" of marriage, it's lying, cheating, hypocrites that don't treat marriage like it's sacred that are a threat to the sanctity of marriage. People like Gov Sanford are a threat to the "sanctity" of marriage.

  • i would die laughing if he blamed gay America for undermining his marriage...i can see it now "do to the up rise in gay America their ways have rubbed off on me causing me to cheat on my wife like the one nighters that gay people have" XD

  • Actually his affair is with a married woman. So he's undermining marriage in two continents.

  • Gotta love a good Southern Repunklican!!!  They just marinate in hypocrisy.

  • @hornybo > In which two continents? South Carolina is in the American continent, so that's one. What continent is Argentina in? the south American continent? Was there also a middle American continent in your textbooks?.... dude...

  • Wow, you don't know the continents? I see you are European. I often wonder why Europe is considered a separate continent. I have to go teach so hopefully you will figure this one out on your own. . . dude.

  • He's Dutch like me judging from the username. The Dutch education system has been tanking the past 20 years. Sadly these days most kids can barely multiply or spell let alone do "advanced" topics like geography or history.

    And yes North and South America are continents, as are Europe and Asia as well as Africa. A landmass doesn't have to be an island to be a continent.

  • I certainly don't hold anything against the young man, but it is funny that he seemed to be ridiculing me and he is in fact wrong. Well, there is an arbitrariness to these divisions. I assumed the dominant convention of 7 continents. The Americas could be conceptualized as one, but if one were to do that then it would be logical to consider Eurasia one or even Afro-Eurasia, since all three of these continents are continuous in land mass. Why is India called a sub-continent and not Europe?

  • Historical reasons is all I can come up with. There doesn't seem to be any hard definition of what a continent is. The Greeks originally separated "Europe" from "Asia" and we just stuck with it I think.

    And you're right, some people believe Eurasia and America (including N and S) should be considered single continents. Though why they would include Asia in Eurasia and not Africa I don't know.

    This is why I never liked geography, the arbitrary borders and naming conventions are annoying ;)

  • They say history is written by the victors, so that may well be the final answer. In Indians had dominated the modern period, perhaps India would be a separate continent and Europe a sub-continent.

    Perhaps a better analysis of plate tectonics will give us a non-arbitrary answer, but then again, sometimes truly objective accounts are not satisfying; witness the expulsion of Pluto from the list of planets.

    By the way my mom hosted a Dutch girl years ago. We found her quite intelligent!

  • Quite right. But you're right ultimately we'd probably not convince many people that our way is better. Not to mention objectivity doesn't appear to be seen as a virtue in this day and age. ;)

    And you're right I'm a little hard on my countrymen some times. We're not all ignorant peasants.. Yet.. ;)