I'm writing a Theory of Knowledge essay at the moment, and am currently discussing the limitations of language (mostly reification) but I thought I would drop in the whole
‘Killing a baby’ = emotive, sad and wrong; ‘extracting unwanted cells’ = logical, scientific and good. Yet, both of these terms are describing exactly the same thing - abortion.
I was just wondering if I could put this video in the bibliography with your permission?
Humans process existance using different models for difference reasons, which themselves evolved on the basis they promoted survial. Langange is but one of them. Now the problem of survival is less pressing, we think about thinking, and we most often think in words. Mainly words are gifted to us, but when we have a new thought, we need a new word. Or do we? What about art and dreams? To me language is a prision not a liberation. I'd seek experiences beyond language.
I have to disagree about the looking for the word. When I can't remember a word, I usually have the concept in mind- I just can't remember the word for it. This happens more often when I speak in French, so I think this is due merely to our knowledge and familiarity with the specific language you are using- which is one of the reasons I look at it like a tool that you can be better or not as good at using however it is needed for us to think well.
@Yamikaiba123 When I think without using words, I become retarded in the actual sense of the word (my thought is slowed down considerably). No longer am I abbreviating a concept and able to juggle it around so easily with others at the same time. Just trying to think of more than 2 things at the same time without labeling them is a challenge. It's because our intelligence comes from classifying things, I think- and labels are the quickest way to start doing that.
I am thinking of red as a wavelength not a hue. It exists in nature without words or reification and is utilized by nature as a process of communicating danger.
Where are the boundaries of merger and division? are we simply to trust our eyes? I know that my skin takes its shape only by the atmospheric pressure, but I cannot see the air the is holding my body/skin in shape. Could the distinction between and among, "I," "my skin," "my body," and "me" be maintained without any language?
Do we connect to reality via things and the language that is developed through our communication with the world. Or is the mere act of being in the world inclusive of a language that is already a part of reality. The example I give is the color red. Which is part of an evolutionary process neither concept or language. It has a symbolic communicative power, warning other creatures to stay away.
So is objectification the fundamental connection of an individual to the world through the Reification of abstract concepts. Or is "being" inclusive of language even as symbolization. for example red as a warning color in nature.
Great video. Whitehead says the principle task of philosophy is to be the critic of abstractions. It is all too easy to commit the fallacy of misplaced concreteness when we forget that language constitutes the "thing-hood" of the world.
Extremely interesting and insightful video there.
I'm writing a Theory of Knowledge essay at the moment, and am currently discussing the limitations of language (mostly reification) but I thought I would drop in the whole
‘Killing a baby’ = emotive, sad and wrong; ‘extracting unwanted cells’ = logical, scientific and good. Yet, both of these terms are describing exactly the same thing - abortion.
I was just wondering if I could put this video in the bibliography with your permission?
JoeCGrant 2 months ago
@JoeCGrant Sure. Thanks. Please help your local library get copies of my books.
Professoranton 2 months ago
Humans process existance using different models for difference reasons, which themselves evolved on the basis they promoted survial. Langange is but one of them. Now the problem of survival is less pressing, we think about thinking, and we most often think in words. Mainly words are gifted to us, but when we have a new thought, we need a new word. Or do we? What about art and dreams? To me language is a prision not a liberation. I'd seek experiences beyond language.
truthcrackers 1 year ago
I have to disagree about the looking for the word. When I can't remember a word, I usually have the concept in mind- I just can't remember the word for it. This happens more often when I speak in French, so I think this is due merely to our knowledge and familiarity with the specific language you are using- which is one of the reasons I look at it like a tool that you can be better or not as good at using however it is needed for us to think well.
Yamikaiba123 1 year ago
@Yamikaiba123 When I think without using words, I become retarded in the actual sense of the word (my thought is slowed down considerably). No longer am I abbreviating a concept and able to juggle it around so easily with others at the same time. Just trying to think of more than 2 things at the same time without labeling them is a challenge. It's because our intelligence comes from classifying things, I think- and labels are the quickest way to start doing that.
Yamikaiba123 1 year ago
I agree with this- like I said, even if we grasp what life would be without language, we can't tell anyone about it.
Yamikaiba123 1 year ago
I am thinking of red as a wavelength not a hue. It exists in nature without words or reification and is utilized by nature as a process of communicating danger.
lukeo25 2 years ago
Where are the boundaries of merger and division? are we simply to trust our eyes? I know that my skin takes its shape only by the atmospheric pressure, but I cannot see the air the is holding my body/skin in shape. Could the distinction between and among, "I," "my skin," "my body," and "me" be maintained without any language?
Professoranton 2 years ago
Is our "thing" language born of the nature of being.?
lukeo25 2 years ago
Do we connect to reality via things and the language that is developed through our communication with the world. Or is the mere act of being in the world inclusive of a language that is already a part of reality. The example I give is the color red. Which is part of an evolutionary process neither concept or language. It has a symbolic communicative power, warning other creatures to stay away.
lukeo25 2 years ago
Without adequate context this is difficult, Red is a word that comes out the mouth, The hue of red has countless shades and varieties.
Professoranton 2 years ago
So is objectification the fundamental connection of an individual to the world through the Reification of abstract concepts. Or is "being" inclusive of language even as symbolization. for example red as a warning color in nature.
lukeo25 2 years ago
Hi, I unfortunately am unable to follow the question. Can you clarify further?
Professoranton 2 years ago
Great video. Whitehead says the principle task of philosophy is to be the critic of abstractions. It is all too easy to commit the fallacy of misplaced concreteness when we forget that language constitutes the "thing-hood" of the world.
0ThouArtThat0 2 years ago