Why do you identify yourself as an indigenous person? You look very spanish looking to me... and you do know most mexican americans come in mixed backgrouds..
Well it is said that when the Spaniards came over, much of them raped the native women and thus created the Latino population. Thus, they are a mixture of Spanish and Native central American ancestry. Many of Herdando Cortes' men took native wives, for example. Much of the current Mexican population does indeed have Spanish ancestry, as well as native ancestry. Good video.
Its always good to get in touch with your roots, I'm actually making a video where I come to terms with my roots and heritage. It comes from a totally different angle but I might make it a response to this due to the similar themes. I really have enjoyed my exposure to aboriginal culture since I've been in Canada, I think you'd really enjoy it if you went to Canada and experienced some aboriginal culture, the ceremony of it is wonderful Do you know what group you descend from?
@KrissytheWorldWithin Also I don't know about other aboriginal groups but in Manitoba there is a lot of focus on the role of the female in aboriginal communities, there is a big emphasis on strong women who lead and respect for your ancestors, especially your grandmothers. I don't know if you saw my slut walk videos but there's a great video on some of the aboriginal issues in Canada if you're interested. I don't know my specific origins other than Ameican but I enjoy learning about everyone.
What roots, my dear? Your roots form an infinite circle of war, murder, rape and so on. It's unwise to take things like the holocaust of the original American peoples too personal. We don't have to go too far in our ancestry to find the first great-something-father or mother of yours who wronged my great-something-father or mother of mine. The sins of our fathers should not burden us and we should coexist in kinship despite our ancestral poison.
Excellent video Divinity. I feel you. Mexicans where slaughtered and abused. Their history was diluted or not expressed. Now efforts to educate people are being fought with censorship and legislation. Those students should not have been punished and definitely not that way. Yes Mexicans have allowed (like Blacks) history to be stolen. There are some people who are as equally outraged by the treatment of these students as they where about the words of Newt. I am.
@EuphoricImpact (2) Some are treating the movement for Mexican pride as solely extremist, militant and irrational activity. Every group has these elements but this is not necessarily an accurate depiction of the overall group. Arizona is doing many things I disagree with. I know this situation is a hot mess. Without education and fighting to protest against our history being kept from us.. well we travel further down the rabbit hole.
@EuphoricImpact Thank you for your support my friend. I would also like to add that much needs to be done to heal the divides between the black and brown communities. I feel like you are a part of that healing. I am trying to be as well. @~>~~
I loved your video, but I need you to break the stereotype of what hate is. You should hate: injustice, lies, evil, white supremacy, etc. If you don't hate that then you are tolerating it, allowing it to exist. Much like people didn't hate slavery, they tolerated it. I am sending you a video response.
@AnahuacPilgrimage Very true. My comment that we should not hate was a statement against hating those whose ancestors came over here and did this to us, that we shouldn't hate those of European decent just for being of European decent. I know many who support us and I see them as a blessing to my life. But yes you are right, hating things like white supremacy is justified. Most of those of European decent subbed to me hate it as well. Thank you for your comment. @~>~~
Divinity, just a small correction, the Spanish Europeans accidentally brought small pox to the natives. I think you are referring to the British general, Amherst, who purposely gave the Indians blankets infected with smallpox. The Spanish actually did not want the natives to get small pox because the Spanish used them as slave labour. That's actually the reason slavery in Southern America and Brazil was rampant; there wasn't enough labour because all the Natives had been wiped away by small pox.
1) I don't know if that story is true. I thought you might be referring to it.
2) Are you talking about Spain or the America? The experience was different in both cases. The Europeans might have brought Smallpox intentionally, but no body can know that. In my opinion, It doesn't make sense because it diminishes the labour force.
3) Does the professor make the case that the Mexicans were intentionally given smallpox? Because I did not say there wasn't a genocide.
@lulzcoaster Actually that isn't true either. You see, biological warfare was common in Europe, The spanish had just finish their expulsion of the Moors in Granada in exactly 1492. They had already wiped out the Indigenous population of the Canary Islands using the same methods they used in their "total war". They repeated in the Caribbean, and continued it in Cemanahuac(Americas).
Changing history texts will make things confusing. How will they explain the civil war, and Abraham Lincoln. Also parts of the United States were acquired through Mexico. How will they explain how some cities still have Mexican names like San Francisco, San Jose, and Los Angeles.
Mexican people are not so common on the west coast because they "crossed the boarder", as some think, but because the west coast IS Mexico and they and their ancestors have always been there.
I recommend a people's history of the united states by Howard Zinn.
"Even though I don’t know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you, I love you. With all my heart, I love you."
Somehow...this is the feeling you inspire in me with each of your videos like this. Thank you so much for making this.
I look just like any other blue-eyed white girl (mostly, I'm a little more beefy than most European women) but I'm Métis. My father has always been interested in the topic, & all my life I've known he's told me what he found out. He never sugar coated it.
So when people tell me, that first-nations people, are lazy bums who have been compensated.
I think: "No, this culture war is still happening. You only don't know it, because you're on the winning side."
1) a friend of mine was talking a while ago about something to do with 'national parks' – something about a few people who were allowed to build homes on national park land way back when, and now the gov't wants to take the 'national park land' back and throw those people off the land – my friend was like “doesn't that suck! They said those people could live there years ago!” and I said that took a lot of nerve ... (more)
2) ... it took a lot of nerve to complain about that considering that 'the gov't' stole that land from native people to begin with – my friend said he haven't considered it that way. It's so easy for some of us to not consider it that way.
@FeministWhore Very true. I think many try to deny this knowledge to themselves and their children because they fear what effect it will have. How ironic that they don't realize...the only time it becomes an issue to any of us is when THEY try to tell us we don't belong here. THEY draw that line in the sand just like they drew those borders upon our land. Thanks FW for your love and support. @~>~~
Good video. Part of my ancestry is Native American and can be traced back to the Trail of Tears. The irony is my existence depends on the abuse of some of my ancestors. But further insult is added to injury when I realize that most USA children never learn of the Trail of Tears in school.
I know some of my history because my mother traced her family all the way back to 1620-something when her ancestors came over from england. So I'm directly related to the original assholes who came here - heck I could even join the Mayflower society if I wanted to - but what I think about are all the women who married in - women I don't know ANYTHING about, women whose histories have been lost. I won't ever know who they really were, not in the way that I know about the males.
@FeministWhore OF COURSE! That's why when a romanticize version of how women had it in the past is offered people who have a beef with feminism just eat that shit up. The real stories have been cleansed from the history books.
I'm with you 100% on this issue. I'm white but I realize that I'm the immigrant not the Mexicans and Native Americans. I do however have Mexicans in my family. :D
You know what pisses me off (and I'm not even Mexican) is when people bitch about the Mexican immigrants (illegal or not). They bitch like the Mexican people don't belong here, but in reality a huge portion of the US used to be owned by Mexicans. Of course even before that, the indigenous nations lived across both continents.
I am 1/32 Cherokee Native American. Not a significant part of my heritage, but enough to make me concerned for my great great great great great(how ever great she was, I'm not sure) Cherokee grandmother, and what little part of myself I don't know about...and what some people don't want me to know about. Thank you so much for this, Div. I love you and you're amazing.
Yeah. It always pisses me off when people say "why can't you be American?" And I say, of course I'm American. But I'm also Jewish (in culture, not religion). This whole "whitewashing" that people expect of us is ridiculous. A lot of these people should get to know about their roots. Having a culture that is separate from American culture doesn't mean you think you are better than anyone, it just means you know the sacrifices your ancestors made to give you the life that you have today.
@daedamot It seems to be a wish to return to the "melting pot" nonsense, when people were expected to give up their names, their language, their culture, and adopt the WASP ideal. But of course, they could never actually get there unless they happened to be pale skinned and blond. We have lost so much knowledge, everything we know about Native cultures has had to be pieced together, we've lost entire languages. American is a collection of cultures, not a single one.
Everytime I get questioned why, or how I can describe myself as jewish while being a tattooed atheist, I get the feeling that they want us not to be different and I get why. It can be a good thing, want everyone to be assimilated, to be part of the culture. I often talk about the necessity of integration, being part of the community around you. But they often want you to give up the things that make you you. Be it for me, often what they want me to lose is stereotypically British.
One of my colleagues is a specialist in Nahuatl, and I myself speak it a little bit. Do you feel kinship with specific Mexican indigenous groups (Cora, Huichol, Papago, Tarahumara, Nahuatl, Maya, etc.) or with Indigenous Mexican as a general category? Also, since Spanish is the language of Spain, rather than of the indigenous Mexican people, how do you feel with respect to it? Is Spanish yet another thing that Europeans have jammed down the throat of indigenous Mexicans?
@Asehpe U know, I'm 1 of those "Mexican/Americans" who grew up not knowing Spanish. Other Mexicans have told me I'm not really Mexican because of it which leads me to guess they knew little of our history too. I have never felt connected to it. I find the staunch loyalty many of my people have to Christianity (particularly Catholicism) to be more of a pain tbh.
@BonusCivis The Jesuits took advantage of the abuse their fellow countrymen delivered to my people by offering protection to those who converted and yes they did play a part in the horror that created "Latin" America.
@Divinity33372 I can't stand vendidos who take pride in speaking a langauge that was forced upon them... hell, the fact that I'm speaking English right now instead of what SHOULD be speaking, Nahuatl, is a crying shame in and of itself! You're a true Mexican, don't let the words of vendidos/vendidas tell you otherwise!
Well, one shouldn't be surprised, I suppose. But you still stand in awe of the sheer stupidity of those in power over there. With every day, with every new political move, the US goes another inch down the drain - Hell, it's already ancle-deep in the excrement of history, where we hoped every bad permutation of historical refuse from the western world were dumped to die after being beaten down once. This it soaks up, more than willingly. It will be the dark ages again, before you know it :(
It's crazy. They banned Shakespeare's "The Tempest" this time around, too. They'll ban anything that they think is causing them enough trouble. Years ago, they banned Dr. Seuss' "The Lorax". I learned about that when I moved to an area with a big lumber industry.
Getting rid of history is impossible today in the internet age. You can go online and Google "Smallpox, Native Americans" and find out a lot more about it. And it's not just native Americans whom they are trying to rob. Google "David Barton Falsifies American History" and learn how that guy is re-writing American history to make America look like more of a Christian nation than it ever really was. Most of the Republican candidates are trying to promote that false history.
I disagree with the Arizona legislation (and disagree from a border state), but I think it's unfair to say they banned these books. As far as I know (I may be wrong), is they stopped funding and cut all Mexican American studies from the courses.
As much as I disagree with such actions, I don't think it's on the same level of banning books. Which they couldn't do anyways, even with books that should be banned like the anarchist cookbook
I wish we were friends IRL, grrl. cuz I'd b right there. I took some of the 1st Chicano/a history classes ever offered in Calif. I was a member of MECHA Movimiento Estudiantil Chican@ de Aztlán (MEChA). I have so many stories 2 tell u: personal & historical. Your voice is clear and righteous. This is EXACTLY the fascist tactics of Europe in the '30s. I'm so proud 2 know u right now. If u need any support, yell @ me, k? I've pointed some feminist scholars @ u & they r impressed. We haz yer back
@Divinity33372 Sooooo....feminists wish to exclude themselves from humanity? Human is inclusive of all. Feminism is, by name, exclusive. Call yourself whatever, though. I just see little to no relevancy in labeling oneself a feminist when dealing with human rights issues. It's redundant.
@CMRDIvan feminism - the movement for equal rights for men and women. It's been that way from the beginning - look at the history of feminism and you'd know that. You're getting hung up on etymology. It's like saying that "I am an American" is saying that you are from the North or South American continent. Despite what the etymology would lead you to believe, saying "I am American" means you are from the United States.
@daedamot I am getting hung up etymologically because therein the problem lies. I support human rights all around. Any sex, any color, any gender, any nationality. Why use an etymologically irrelevant term to describe oneself when a relevant one exists.
@CMRDIvan - What is a human? What is humanism? Is it based on an average human? Seriously - what is the average human? What do you think are differences between the male human experience of life and the female human experience of life? Do you think there are no differences?
The average human is a happy citizen of Oceania as described by George Orwell in his novel, "Nineteen Eighty-Four." Always has been and always will be no matter which culture they grew up on.
@FeministWhore Does there need to be an average human? Why should differencess in experiences require us to split into groups? Why is it that even when we try to improve each others lives must we still use an Us v Them mentality? Divinity kept going on and on about "her people". What makes them any less my, yours, everyone's people? It's not Latino history that's being destroyed. It's human history that's being destroyed. Sorry for seeing these things in a more unifying manner.
@CMRDIvan Yes there ARE certain groups that are targeted for oppression by OTHER specific groups...not everyone in those specific groups but yea it does exist. YES they are MY people and we share a particular experience that others don't. If it offends you to hear that then get the fuck off MY CHANNEL. I'm not going to let ANYONE racist or "humanist" force my expression of my unique HUMAN experience as a Mexican away from me.
@CMRDIvan - Why do have this video /watch?v=u62OtM_vt5k favorited? Do you identify as gay? If so: WHY? YOU'RE JUST HUMAN! Homophobia, and the laws proposed against homosexuals are just laws against humans, nobody should even mention them, because it's just divisive. Right? I mean, what does the history of homosexual persecution matter?
And you're the one seeing it as divisive. Not div, not me, not most of the people on this thread. Why do you feel it's divisive? Do you not see how we need to notice the particular groups that HAVE been persecuted in order to stop the persecution? Are we just supposed to say "some humans are being killed for who they are, some humans have been killed for who they are" and not mention who they are?
@CMRDIvan Uhhh, no, sir. Feminism is NOT detaching themselves from humanity; it is COMPLETING the story of humanity. The reason why feminism exists and continues to be so badly needed is the same reason we still need Black History, Latin@ History, Asian History, and so forth: because if we allow wealthy White men to control what passes for history, inevitably everyone else gets frozen out and screwed.
And I would say the same for the study of working people, for sexual dissidents, for the transgendered, for the indigent...for all peoples not privileged enough to control their own destiny.
Interesting... I'll be following how many "dislikes" this gets. I think we've found the actual test video for identifying sociopathy. If you have no empathy for what she's saying, your soul is dead.
I live in Canada now where the pathetic people that call themselves Croatians, Serbs, and Bosnians now teach their children to hate one another and continue what seems to be an endless cycle of bitterness. Its the worst kind of indoctrination and its quite successful. So at the end of the day all I can say is that I am very, very disappointed with the kind of stalk I happen to come from.
As a black/mexican man I see your point especially in the first part of this video.I honestly dont identify with the whole "ethnic identity" thing it to me is an unnecessary divider in human relations.Also funny thing with native americans like their meeting with africans who came to this continent in 1307 I think the seminoles are the ones they met I wonder how it is their culture influenced one another.This also reminds me of how the japanese government is trying to revise history.
They're all so sad and bitter that I don't care to associate with my roots. Croatians treat me like shit for my Serbian heritage and go so far as to shame and guilt me for associating with Serbians. Bosnia is a land without a future. Its like a terminally ill patient waiting to die. I know because I went back to my homeland and I saw what told me, "Abandon hope all ye who enter." Sarajevo is filthy. Little poor kids running outside bare foot begging for a euro.
Honestly it makes me mad how Latinos are treated in the USA. It's still socially acceptable for people to say all kinds of shit about us. It's more xenophobia than racism. It's this feeling that you will never belong. We have the blood of both the oppressors and the oppressed in us, I don't look to history for my identity, but I think history needs to be out there for everyone. Example: Marijuana laws came about for no other reason than to jail and deport Latinos and the people of Caribbean.cont
@Coquipirate (of which I am both) but these laws are still in force! The bigots on top will jail us all and use us for slave labor if we let them. History is important because it affects the present. It gives us the context needed to understand the oppression.
I was essentially told that I was a PC idiot for not racially profiling people, specifically black people in relation to crime. God forbid I don't judge people based on the pigment of their skin or their supposed "innate" behavioural traits or "lack" of intelligence. I hate how people racially profile. Tennessee is trying to get rid of slavery in the history books!? And I had to come back here!? I had no idea... but it doesn't suprise me. Look at Dick Floyd and Bill Haslam... I hate it here :'(
To be honest I don't know who I am. I was born in Bosnia which is a multicultural country of Croatians, Serbs, and Bosnian Muslims. My mother comes from a Serbian community and my father comes from a Croatian community. Croatians are predominately Roman Catholic and Serbians are Orthodox Christians. The Bosniaks are predominately Muslim. Religion has been absorbed and integrated in much of their cultures. They are all so prideful and extreme that war and animosity has become commonplace.
I friend of mine (Canadian) is doing a law degree and an MA in Latin American studies at the University of Arizona. I should really get in touch with her and see how it's affecting her program given these wacky laws.
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ThaLATINAizGOD 1 week ago
Why do you identify yourself as an indigenous person? You look very spanish looking to me... and you do know most mexican americans come in mixed backgrouds..
Wizano1 1 week ago
@Wizano1 she looks more indigenous to me, and she is a very beautiful Nican Tlaca warrior :) we need more women and men like her.
prototype6x 3 days ago
You made me CRY ...Sister....SAD WORLD WE LIVE!
SteeleHorse45 2 weeks ago
YOU ARE SPOT ON! Thank YOU!
SteeleHorse45 2 weeks ago
yes, very good..,
Freya5000 2 weeks ago
Well it is said that when the Spaniards came over, much of them raped the native women and thus created the Latino population. Thus, they are a mixture of Spanish and Native central American ancestry. Many of Herdando Cortes' men took native wives, for example. Much of the current Mexican population does indeed have Spanish ancestry, as well as native ancestry. Good video.
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Buntzums 3 weeks ago
Please, continue. These things must be said.
DonQuixotedeKaw 3 weeks ago
Its always good to get in touch with your roots, I'm actually making a video where I come to terms with my roots and heritage. It comes from a totally different angle but I might make it a response to this due to the similar themes. I really have enjoyed my exposure to aboriginal culture since I've been in Canada, I think you'd really enjoy it if you went to Canada and experienced some aboriginal culture, the ceremony of it is wonderful Do you know what group you descend from?
KrissytheWorldWithin 3 weeks ago
@KrissytheWorldWithin Also I don't know about other aboriginal groups but in Manitoba there is a lot of focus on the role of the female in aboriginal communities, there is a big emphasis on strong women who lead and respect for your ancestors, especially your grandmothers. I don't know if you saw my slut walk videos but there's a great video on some of the aboriginal issues in Canada if you're interested. I don't know my specific origins other than Ameican but I enjoy learning about everyone.
KrissytheWorldWithin 3 weeks ago
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What roots, my dear? Your roots form an infinite circle of war, murder, rape and so on. It's unwise to take things like the holocaust of the original American peoples too personal. We don't have to go too far in our ancestry to find the first great-something-father or mother of yours who wronged my great-something-father or mother of mine. The sins of our fathers should not burden us and we should coexist in kinship despite our ancestral poison.
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RIPraiders805 3 weeks ago
This is brilliant and powerful! Good to see others like me out there who seek the truth and are not afraid!
JGmartinezJr 3 weeks ago
So now you are a chicano supremacist!?
Monsieur421 3 weeks ago
@Monsieur421 shut up idiot .
nauiocelotl 3 weeks ago
@nauiocelotl I wasn't talking to you!
Anyway YOU are a supremacist for sure !
Monsieur421 3 weeks ago
Excellent video Divinity. I feel you. Mexicans where slaughtered and abused. Their history was diluted or not expressed. Now efforts to educate people are being fought with censorship and legislation. Those students should not have been punished and definitely not that way. Yes Mexicans have allowed (like Blacks) history to be stolen. There are some people who are as equally outraged by the treatment of these students as they where about the words of Newt. I am.
EuphoricImpact 3 weeks ago
@EuphoricImpact (2) Some are treating the movement for Mexican pride as solely extremist, militant and irrational activity. Every group has these elements but this is not necessarily an accurate depiction of the overall group. Arizona is doing many things I disagree with. I know this situation is a hot mess. Without education and fighting to protest against our history being kept from us.. well we travel further down the rabbit hole.
Learning about feminism has challenged also me.
EuphoricImpact 3 weeks ago
@EuphoricImpact Thank you for your support my friend. I would also like to add that much needs to be done to heal the divides between the black and brown communities. I feel like you are a part of that healing. I am trying to be as well. @~>~~
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
beautiful & emotional video
but not sure why you call it a feminist issue
LobsterPotsticker 3 weeks ago
@LobsterPotsticker I didn't. You missed the point. I invite you to watch again :)
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
@Divinity33372 sry I only watched halfway when I commented
i've only seen a few yt feminists who were really radical but your explanation isn't like that at all
peace
LobsterPotsticker 3 weeks ago
Even if you find certain parts of history divisive, doesnt truth matter to you?
bla34112 3 weeks ago
I loved your video, but I need you to break the stereotype of what hate is. You should hate: injustice, lies, evil, white supremacy, etc. If you don't hate that then you are tolerating it, allowing it to exist. Much like people didn't hate slavery, they tolerated it. I am sending you a video response.
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@AnahuacPilgrimage Very true. My comment that we should not hate was a statement against hating those whose ancestors came over here and did this to us, that we shouldn't hate those of European decent just for being of European decent. I know many who support us and I see them as a blessing to my life. But yes you are right, hating things like white supremacy is justified. Most of those of European decent subbed to me hate it as well. Thank you for your comment. @~>~~
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
Divinity, just a small correction, the Spanish Europeans accidentally brought small pox to the natives. I think you are referring to the British general, Amherst, who purposely gave the Indians blankets infected with smallpox. The Spanish actually did not want the natives to get small pox because the Spanish used them as slave labour. That's actually the reason slavery in Southern America and Brazil was rampant; there wasn't enough labour because all the Natives had been wiped away by small pox.
lulzcoaster 3 weeks ago
@lulzcoaster I appreciate your attempt to educate me about my history but
1. there are many holes in the "blanket" theory.
2. They absolutely DID attempt to commit genocide against my people.
3. Doesn't anybody look at the links in the low bars anymore? I swear idk why I bother to put shit in there.
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
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1) I don't know if that story is true. I thought you might be referring to it.
2) Are you talking about Spain or the America? The experience was different in both cases. The Europeans might have brought Smallpox intentionally, but no body can know that. In my opinion, It doesn't make sense because it diminishes the labour force.
3) Does the professor make the case that the Mexicans were intentionally given smallpox? Because I did not say there wasn't a genocide.
lulzcoaster 3 weeks ago
@lulzcoaster Actually that isn't true either. You see, biological warfare was common in Europe, The spanish had just finish their expulsion of the Moors in Granada in exactly 1492. They had already wiped out the Indigenous population of the Canary Islands using the same methods they used in their "total war". They repeated in the Caribbean, and continued it in Cemanahuac(Americas).
mexica104 3 weeks ago
Changing history texts will make things confusing. How will they explain the civil war, and Abraham Lincoln. Also parts of the United States were acquired through Mexico. How will they explain how some cities still have Mexican names like San Francisco, San Jose, and Los Angeles.
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RIPraiders805 3 weeks ago
Mexican people are not so common on the west coast because they "crossed the boarder", as some think, but because the west coast IS Mexico and they and their ancestors have always been there.
I recommend a people's history of the united states by Howard Zinn.
OurFadedGarden 3 weeks ago
I wish you luck on discovering your heritage.I am multiracial and multicultural. But I identify as Caucasian b/c I am so pale I am translucent.
kelliko70 3 weeks ago
@Divinity33372 Actually women who hate men are misandrists, not feminists. That is what man hating "radical feminists" actually are.
GargamelGold 3 weeks ago
I think it's more then geology, because genetically I might not be Polish but my stomach is and that's where it counts. ^__^
MistressArte 3 weeks ago
"Even though I don’t know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you, I love you. With all my heart, I love you."
Somehow...this is the feeling you inspire in me with each of your videos like this. Thank you so much for making this.
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This topic always makes me want to cry.
I look just like any other blue-eyed white girl (mostly, I'm a little more beefy than most European women) but I'm Métis. My father has always been interested in the topic, & all my life I've known he's told me what he found out. He never sugar coated it.
So when people tell me, that first-nations people, are lazy bums who have been compensated.
I think: "No, this culture war is still happening. You only don't know it, because you're on the winning side."
PurpleGhost 3 weeks ago
Even though I'm a white Canadian it sickens me to no end to hear about this type of despicable treatment towards any minority groups.
Everybody has a RIGHT to their own history, and their own heritage.
I only hope that all those books that got banned end up going viral.
TheCanadianDude 3 weeks ago
1) a friend of mine was talking a while ago about something to do with 'national parks' – something about a few people who were allowed to build homes on national park land way back when, and now the gov't wants to take the 'national park land' back and throw those people off the land – my friend was like “doesn't that suck! They said those people could live there years ago!” and I said that took a lot of nerve ... (more)
FeministWhore 3 weeks ago
2) ... it took a lot of nerve to complain about that considering that 'the gov't' stole that land from native people to begin with – my friend said he haven't considered it that way. It's so easy for some of us to not consider it that way.
FeministWhore 3 weeks ago
@FeministWhore Very true. I think many try to deny this knowledge to themselves and their children because they fear what effect it will have. How ironic that they don't realize...the only time it becomes an issue to any of us is when THEY try to tell us we don't belong here. THEY draw that line in the sand just like they drew those borders upon our land. Thanks FW for your love and support. @~>~~
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
Good video. Part of my ancestry is Native American and can be traced back to the Trail of Tears. The irony is my existence depends on the abuse of some of my ancestors. But further insult is added to injury when I realize that most USA children never learn of the Trail of Tears in school.
DanaGarrett 3 weeks ago
I know some of my history because my mother traced her family all the way back to 1620-something when her ancestors came over from england. So I'm directly related to the original assholes who came here - heck I could even join the Mayflower society if I wanted to - but what I think about are all the women who married in - women I don't know ANYTHING about, women whose histories have been lost. I won't ever know who they really were, not in the way that I know about the males.
FeministWhore 3 weeks ago
@FeministWhore OF COURSE! That's why when a romanticize version of how women had it in the past is offered people who have a beef with feminism just eat that shit up. The real stories have been cleansed from the history books.
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
I'm with you 100% on this issue. I'm white but I realize that I'm the immigrant not the Mexicans and Native Americans. I do however have Mexicans in my family. :D
exacerbatedtaboo 3 weeks ago
Nuke came back with a new fresh video.
Knr911 3 weeks ago
I really like this vid,you should start a rally or something and give the same speech to the public infront of a government building or something
cheesheil 3 weeks ago
I think that you're a beautiful woman.
LadyLolitaJenny 3 weeks ago
You know what pisses me off (and I'm not even Mexican) is when people bitch about the Mexican immigrants (illegal or not). They bitch like the Mexican people don't belong here, but in reality a huge portion of the US used to be owned by Mexicans. Of course even before that, the indigenous nations lived across both continents.
AelaTheHuntress 3 weeks ago 9
I am 1/32 Cherokee Native American. Not a significant part of my heritage, but enough to make me concerned for my great great great great great(how ever great she was, I'm not sure) Cherokee grandmother, and what little part of myself I don't know about...and what some people don't want me to know about. Thank you so much for this, Div. I love you and you're amazing.
SickMouth 3 weeks ago 2
Yeah. It always pisses me off when people say "why can't you be American?" And I say, of course I'm American. But I'm also Jewish (in culture, not religion). This whole "whitewashing" that people expect of us is ridiculous. A lot of these people should get to know about their roots. Having a culture that is separate from American culture doesn't mean you think you are better than anyone, it just means you know the sacrifices your ancestors made to give you the life that you have today.
daedamot 3 weeks ago
@daedamot It seems to be a wish to return to the "melting pot" nonsense, when people were expected to give up their names, their language, their culture, and adopt the WASP ideal. But of course, they could never actually get there unless they happened to be pale skinned and blond. We have lost so much knowledge, everything we know about Native cultures has had to be pieced together, we've lost entire languages. American is a collection of cultures, not a single one.
radiocerk 3 weeks ago
@daedamot
Everytime I get questioned why, or how I can describe myself as jewish while being a tattooed atheist, I get the feeling that they want us not to be different and I get why. It can be a good thing, want everyone to be assimilated, to be part of the culture. I often talk about the necessity of integration, being part of the community around you. But they often want you to give up the things that make you you. Be it for me, often what they want me to lose is stereotypically British.
TheBoyFromNorfolk 3 weeks ago
I don't like holding on to "tradition" but you should hold on to knowledge, Knowledge of history, of the world and of yourself. *hugs*
adecadentsong 3 weeks ago
Genocide was a popular tool of the Europeans of the time period, if you weren't white you would be relocated, massacred or enslaved.
jdf088 3 weeks ago 3
@jdf088
“Genocide was a popular tool of the Europeans of the time period”
Hasn’t genocide and slavery always been an option for all the worlds conquerors not just Europeans?
AdamaKnowsBest 3 weeks ago
@AdamaKnowsBest Don'cha know, non-whites were perfect utopian flower children prior to the big bad Europeans.
TselkeNoddles 3 weeks ago
@TselkeNoddles Were they? Wow...I had no clue. Thank you so very much for educating me about history.
AdamaKnowsBest 3 weeks ago
@AdamaKnowsBest I was speaking of a particular time period of European imperialism which is the period that is referred to in the video.
jdf088 3 weeks ago
One of my colleagues is a specialist in Nahuatl, and I myself speak it a little bit. Do you feel kinship with specific Mexican indigenous groups (Cora, Huichol, Papago, Tarahumara, Nahuatl, Maya, etc.) or with Indigenous Mexican as a general category? Also, since Spanish is the language of Spain, rather than of the indigenous Mexican people, how do you feel with respect to it? Is Spanish yet another thing that Europeans have jammed down the throat of indigenous Mexicans?
Asehpe 3 weeks ago
@Asehpe U know, I'm 1 of those "Mexican/Americans" who grew up not knowing Spanish. Other Mexicans have told me I'm not really Mexican because of it which leads me to guess they knew little of our history too. I have never felt connected to it. I find the staunch loyalty many of my people have to Christianity (particularly Catholicism) to be more of a pain tbh.
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago 8
@Divinity33372 The History is the Soul,love. the Essence. The language is the essence.
BonusCivis 3 weeks ago
@Divinity33372 The Jesuits are Supreme intellects. Advanced Beings, capable of incredible intellectual feats such as the creation of Latin America.
BonusCivis 3 weeks ago
@BonusCivis The Jesuits took advantage of the abuse their fellow countrymen delivered to my people by offering protection to those who converted and yes they did play a part in the horror that created "Latin" America.
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
@Divinity33372 I can't stand vendidos who take pride in speaking a langauge that was forced upon them... hell, the fact that I'm speaking English right now instead of what SHOULD be speaking, Nahuatl, is a crying shame in and of itself! You're a true Mexican, don't let the words of vendidos/vendidas tell you otherwise!
JGmartinezJr 3 weeks ago
Well, one shouldn't be surprised, I suppose. But you still stand in awe of the sheer stupidity of those in power over there. With every day, with every new political move, the US goes another inch down the drain - Hell, it's already ancle-deep in the excrement of history, where we hoped every bad permutation of historical refuse from the western world were dumped to die after being beaten down once. This it soaks up, more than willingly. It will be the dark ages again, before you know it :(
xxhellspawnedxx 3 weeks ago
Fav'd. <3
xxxild 3 weeks ago
@xxxild HUG'D XD
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
@Divinity33372 thanks, making me cry now. love and adore u.
xxxild 3 weeks ago
This political revisionism is fairly disgusting.
To be honest, ive always thought that particular aspect of America was already bad enough, before this.
bla34112 3 weeks ago
"My people"
Any recent ancestors?
SonOfTanit 3 weeks ago
I wonder how many Americans even know that the US gained most of its Western states by waging an aggressive war with Mexico.
silversoul7 3 weeks ago
@silversoul7 Not nearly enough, I'm sure.
Akira625 3 weeks ago
Perfect. You always put things in perspective beautifully.
OddMike 3 weeks ago
"I am a mexican woman"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
;P
bla34112 3 weeks ago
It's crazy. They banned Shakespeare's "The Tempest" this time around, too. They'll ban anything that they think is causing them enough trouble. Years ago, they banned Dr. Seuss' "The Lorax". I learned about that when I moved to an area with a big lumber industry.
thethegreenmachine 3 weeks ago
Getting rid of history is impossible today in the internet age. You can go online and Google "Smallpox, Native Americans" and find out a lot more about it. And it's not just native Americans whom they are trying to rob. Google "David Barton Falsifies American History" and learn how that guy is re-writing American history to make America look like more of a Christian nation than it ever really was. Most of the Republican candidates are trying to promote that false history.
zarkoff45 3 weeks ago
powerful
maynardyorke 3 weeks ago
Got any Spanish ancestors?
SAsgarters 3 weeks ago
I disagree with the Arizona legislation (and disagree from a border state), but I think it's unfair to say they banned these books. As far as I know (I may be wrong), is they stopped funding and cut all Mexican American studies from the courses.
As much as I disagree with such actions, I don't think it's on the same level of banning books. Which they couldn't do anyways, even with books that should be banned like the anarchist cookbook
skinnywhop87 3 weeks ago 2
I wish we were friends IRL, grrl. cuz I'd b right there. I took some of the 1st Chicano/a history classes ever offered in Calif. I was a member of MECHA Movimiento Estudiantil Chican@ de Aztlán (MEChA). I have so many stories 2 tell u: personal & historical. Your voice is clear and righteous. This is EXACTLY the fascist tactics of Europe in the '30s. I'm so proud 2 know u right now. If u need any support, yell @ me, k? I've pointed some feminist scholars @ u & they r impressed. We haz yer back
rriverstone1 3 weeks ago
Racism, revisionist history, etc is a human issue, not a feminist one.
AssRapingHorseCock 3 weeks ago 2
@AssRapingHorseCock sooooo....women are not human?
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
@Divinity33372 If it were just the Mexican women getting stomped on, then it may be a feminist issue
AssRapingHorseCock 3 weeks ago
@AssRapingHorseCock And the prize for COMPLETELY missing the point goes to YOU!
*hands you a cookie...ok now go play
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
@Divinity33372 Sooooo....feminists wish to exclude themselves from humanity? Human is inclusive of all. Feminism is, by name, exclusive. Call yourself whatever, though. I just see little to no relevancy in labeling oneself a feminist when dealing with human rights issues. It's redundant.
CMRDIvan 3 weeks ago
@CMRDIvan feminism - the movement for equal rights for men and women. It's been that way from the beginning - look at the history of feminism and you'd know that. You're getting hung up on etymology. It's like saying that "I am an American" is saying that you are from the North or South American continent. Despite what the etymology would lead you to believe, saying "I am American" means you are from the United States.
daedamot 3 weeks ago
@daedamot I am getting hung up etymologically because therein the problem lies. I support human rights all around. Any sex, any color, any gender, any nationality. Why use an etymologically irrelevant term to describe oneself when a relevant one exists.
CMRDIvan 3 weeks ago
@CMRDIvan - What is a human? What is humanism? Is it based on an average human? Seriously - what is the average human? What do you think are differences between the male human experience of life and the female human experience of life? Do you think there are no differences?
FeministWhore 3 weeks ago
@FeministWhore "Seriously - what is the average human?"
The average human is a happy citizen of Oceania as described by George Orwell in his novel, "Nineteen Eighty-Four." Always has been and always will be no matter which culture they grew up on.
watch?v=F3HV9xko8ME
zarkoff45 3 weeks ago
@FeministWhore Does there need to be an average human? Why should differencess in experiences require us to split into groups? Why is it that even when we try to improve each others lives must we still use an Us v Them mentality? Divinity kept going on and on about "her people". What makes them any less my, yours, everyone's people? It's not Latino history that's being destroyed. It's human history that's being destroyed. Sorry for seeing these things in a more unifying manner.
CMRDIvan 3 weeks ago
@CMRDIvan Yes there ARE certain groups that are targeted for oppression by OTHER specific groups...not everyone in those specific groups but yea it does exist. YES they are MY people and we share a particular experience that others don't. If it offends you to hear that then get the fuck off MY CHANNEL. I'm not going to let ANYONE racist or "humanist" force my expression of my unique HUMAN experience as a Mexican away from me.
Divinity33372 3 weeks ago
@CMRDIvan - Why do have this video /watch?v=u62OtM_vt5k favorited? Do you identify as gay? If so: WHY? YOU'RE JUST HUMAN! Homophobia, and the laws proposed against homosexuals are just laws against humans, nobody should even mention them, because it's just divisive. Right? I mean, what does the history of homosexual persecution matter?
FeministWhore 3 weeks ago
And you're the one seeing it as divisive. Not div, not me, not most of the people on this thread. Why do you feel it's divisive? Do you not see how we need to notice the particular groups that HAVE been persecuted in order to stop the persecution? Are we just supposed to say "some humans are being killed for who they are, some humans have been killed for who they are" and not mention who they are?
FeministWhore 3 weeks ago
@CMRDIvan Uhhh, no, sir. Feminism is NOT detaching themselves from humanity; it is COMPLETING the story of humanity. The reason why feminism exists and continues to be so badly needed is the same reason we still need Black History, Latin@ History, Asian History, and so forth: because if we allow wealthy White men to control what passes for history, inevitably everyone else gets frozen out and screwed.
AnthonyJKenn 3 weeks ago
And I would say the same for the study of working people, for sexual dissidents, for the transgendered, for the indigent...for all peoples not privileged enough to control their own destiny.
AnthonyJKenn 3 weeks ago
@AssRapingHorseCock You're a dumbass
OddMike 3 weeks ago
Interesting... I'll be following how many "dislikes" this gets. I think we've found the actual test video for identifying sociopathy. If you have no empathy for what she's saying, your soul is dead.
etzel33 3 weeks ago
I live in Canada now where the pathetic people that call themselves Croatians, Serbs, and Bosnians now teach their children to hate one another and continue what seems to be an endless cycle of bitterness. Its the worst kind of indoctrination and its quite successful. So at the end of the day all I can say is that I am very, very disappointed with the kind of stalk I happen to come from.
Azraelseraphim 3 weeks ago
As a black/mexican man I see your point especially in the first part of this video.I honestly dont identify with the whole "ethnic identity" thing it to me is an unnecessary divider in human relations.Also funny thing with native americans like their meeting with africans who came to this continent in 1307 I think the seminoles are the ones they met I wonder how it is their culture influenced one another.This also reminds me of how the japanese government is trying to revise history.
ThoseGamerguyz 3 weeks ago
They're all so sad and bitter that I don't care to associate with my roots. Croatians treat me like shit for my Serbian heritage and go so far as to shame and guilt me for associating with Serbians. Bosnia is a land without a future. Its like a terminally ill patient waiting to die. I know because I went back to my homeland and I saw what told me, "Abandon hope all ye who enter." Sarajevo is filthy. Little poor kids running outside bare foot begging for a euro.
Azraelseraphim 3 weeks ago
Honestly it makes me mad how Latinos are treated in the USA. It's still socially acceptable for people to say all kinds of shit about us. It's more xenophobia than racism. It's this feeling that you will never belong. We have the blood of both the oppressors and the oppressed in us, I don't look to history for my identity, but I think history needs to be out there for everyone. Example: Marijuana laws came about for no other reason than to jail and deport Latinos and the people of Caribbean.cont
Coquipirate 3 weeks ago
@Coquipirate (of which I am both) but these laws are still in force! The bigots on top will jail us all and use us for slave labor if we let them. History is important because it affects the present. It gives us the context needed to understand the oppression.
Coquipirate 3 weeks ago
I was essentially told that I was a PC idiot for not racially profiling people, specifically black people in relation to crime. God forbid I don't judge people based on the pigment of their skin or their supposed "innate" behavioural traits or "lack" of intelligence. I hate how people racially profile. Tennessee is trying to get rid of slavery in the history books!? And I had to come back here!? I had no idea... but it doesn't suprise me. Look at Dick Floyd and Bill Haslam... I hate it here :'(
HappyAtheist76 3 weeks ago
salt of the earth, your best video yet. deep stuff
etzel33 3 weeks ago
To be honest I don't know who I am. I was born in Bosnia which is a multicultural country of Croatians, Serbs, and Bosnian Muslims. My mother comes from a Serbian community and my father comes from a Croatian community. Croatians are predominately Roman Catholic and Serbians are Orthodox Christians. The Bosniaks are predominately Muslim. Religion has been absorbed and integrated in much of their cultures. They are all so prideful and extreme that war and animosity has become commonplace.
Azraelseraphim 3 weeks ago
I friend of mine (Canadian) is doing a law degree and an MA in Latin American studies at the University of Arizona. I should really get in touch with her and see how it's affecting her program given these wacky laws.
TheMessianicManic 3 weeks ago
I have Native and Spaniard roots. Talk about confusion.
iseececi 3 weeks ago