Plato's Cave

[larry89]

its pretty funny how this is the same exact thing that happened to socrates, jesus, and many others

[billydumont]

Thumbs up if that noise at the very beginning scarred the FUCK out of you, lol

[codachrome123]

There is something wrong with the audio on your video now.

[CannabisHeals]

Really good job.

[seabreezekk2008]

SFSU 110 。。。

[roachgut]

I love the music you used for the soundtrack. Could you possibly list the songs that were played in this video?

[nukethewhales1]

Postal Service- This Place is a Prison

Beatles- And Your Bird Can Sing

Phantom Planet- Know it all

[roachgut]

@nukethewhales1 Thank you for your reply. I even forgot that I had left this comment, but thanks to you, I know what songs to find.

[fredontube]

Well done!

The cave is a super script for a professional movie/blockbuster!

[Jessycar1BrumBeep]

this helped me so much with my philiosophy AS homework.

i have to write a blog of the 'enlightened prisoner" and this is great!

thanks for putting this on here!!

[drewdhall]

The person who says ignorance is bliss does not see the shallowness of the bliss. There are levels of depth to happiness and the depth of the happiness that is acquired in cave land is far less profound than that of the "real" world. Socrates is also saying that our world is NOT the real world, but it is MORE real than the shadow-cave world, therefor the happiness that can be achieved in the more real world is that much more profound.

[eposboy]

SFSU 110 Student have visited

[ianios1]

me too!

[moracity]

@herolink17

"The people in the cave were not being abused"

Being chained by the neck and wrists is not abuse? Forcing a person into blissful ignorance is perhaps the greatest human injustice. To me, philosophy comes down to 2 distinct suppositions: man is free or man is not free. Happiness, truth, good, bad - those are all subjective ideas based on the reality of an individual. Freedom guarantees nothing except opportunity.

[132liverpoolrd]

actually, guys, plato really believes that the world within the cave is no more and no less real than the world outside. he's trying to make you question the reliability of our perceptions.

[Flatcap4]

Truth is bringing depth and voice to the shadows, and in doing so, could bring depth and voice to the viewer. A sense of undeniable fulfillment comes from the discovery of truth, and with only shadows to teach, it becomes a life as deep as shadows for the viewer.

This problem can be seen in the teaching and learning of cults by brainwashing. Those not in the cults see a greater picture - a better perspective that is not so mislead.

Thank you for inviting argument. :)

I needed the discussion.

[Flatcap4]

I agree with you, herolink17, that ignorance is bliss. However, regardless of the initial shock or disturbance that will initially affect the one transitioning from the cave into the light and those whom he tells of the world outside, what is the purpose of existence while truth is veiled, and the opportunity to see truth is so easily obtainable while no person decides to take advantage of it? The non-acceptance of the truth at first is an important part of the allegory.

[herolink17]

Also cool video :). In relation to my last comment, I find that people that are accepting of this allegory right away have not actually experienced any form of truth.

Also, I encourage arguing with my statements, because what better way to learn than to be prover wrong; an answer is much more powerful and meaningful when it displaces another answer to the same question.

I mean really, what use is a truth if you never recognized anything as false?

[herolink17]

Yet the allegory, brave new world, Fahrenheit 451, the Matrix, all of these stories seem to forget one of the most important and all-encompassing truths....

Ignorance IS bliss.

The people in the cave were not being abused, so what is the purpose of interrupting their happiness? Those that find what they perceive as the truth need to be careful with it, as it can be a frightening experience to have one's world flipped upside down and not everyone may be ready for it, or more importantly, want it.

[avhousebitch]

"an elaborate dream" ...hey what is the beatles song in this video?

[magicalmissmagic]

and your bird can sing, from revolver

[georgebushisawesome]

cave allegory=television?

that might explain the absolute hysteria by broadcasters to assure "no one loses television reception on Feb. 17th, hey, you! Haven't ordered your DTV convertor yet?? Well, we are gonna carpet bomb you with reminders and infomercials....can't have millions of people turning off their television!"

[corinthian16]

They took the allegory of the cave and filmed it.

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Why is it a unique interpretation? Aside from no one being chained into an actual cave, that is.

[ChulaKirby]

I turned off the TV, and lowered the volume on the radio, and placed my books on the shelf, and tuned out my friends and the culture around me and stepped outside under a tree. And the birds spoke to me, and trees sang, and the mountains heralded, and all of nature spoke of a world that was created. And in my soul I knew that truth existed. And a ray of truth filled my soul and enlightened my mind. And I was never the same. Great video.

[pams2kids]

i'm trying to figure out if you're being sarcastic or not?

[ChulaKirby]

No, I'm not being sarcastic. Have you ever heard of social engineering? Sometimes or should I say many times we do things according to how we are programmed. We believe what we are told to believe. It is by placing everything aside and climbing out of the cave that we start to learn the truth about ourselves and the world around us.

[georgebushisawesome]

Fully concur. And I encourage everyone to actually READ the Cave Allegory for yourself, sans someone's interpretation for you.

BTW,ignore my ironic screen name.

Unfortunately, as Aristotle also pointed out (in his "Rhetoric", I think) men do not like to be told that their curren held beliefs are false. They respond only when they feel they've "discovered" it on their own.

Hence, artists and the use of metaphor. Metaphor is sorta like a welder's mask for the cave dwellers.

[paddymourinho]

and i in turn, fully(ish) concur with you.

[sio30390]

nice work, "enlightened smoothies" haha

[wero454]

hey dude!

may I use your video for my presentation tomorrow?

it is about this?? =]]

plz plz!

[tammydb2003]

I like the imagery of it all.. great work guys! xo

[ctap92]

Try not to take this too seriously guys! I think its a good effort, it made me laugh, it bascally sends out the same message of Plato's cave without being 100% literal. because obviously college/uni students arent going to chain people up who were born in a cave then miraculously let one of them escape n see the real world. its a good basic rep of his theory.

[chigachoo]

This gave me a headache.

i have been trying to find out what Plato's theory was in NORMAL english not scientific language because like c'mon who actually talks like tht

[rjm127]

chigachoo - Ancient Greek philosophers talk like that

[kelra333]

It was my understanding that the people in the cave were prisoners, and the one that left and ventured outside had to break free of his shackles. I wasn't aware that a stranger turned up and beckoned for him to follow him out into the sunshine. Also, the prisoners would try naming all the images emblazoned on the wall because that primitive game was their reality.

*confused*

[TheChroniclesofAmber]

"This guy is wack. Let's waste him."

LOL

[CasualtyOfMedia]

KILL YOUR TELEVISION !!!

[nfleig]

Hey that was the laugh from thriller =)

[maarroon]

nice choice of music, specialy the Beatles song.

Good work overall

[Atemporal]

Ha you can't get more modern than that.

[garagebandking41]

Nice Vincent Price Laugh from The Great Mouse Detective.

The only real highlight. That might be a pun. To RATIGAN!

[Snuddlepuss]

The World's Greatest Criminal Mind!

[Pathrissia]

that guy with the cap is hoT:D

nice video btw. plato was a wise man!

[vanishingofemptiness]

Its even worse today, people are distracted by the mass entertainment that is pervalent on tv, internet, strip clubs, porn etc. which are shadows of shadows.

[frusciante70]

Well said!

[Kewlsoul92]

lol.

[MrSamyboi911]

thriller

[georgebushisawesome]

bill hicks has a good analogy for this

/watch?v=Q95kX_EP2Nk

[2323skidoo]

Nice. ~A~ for effort! Good show! Good show! There are many far LESS interesting ways a handful of college kids could be spending their Saturday afteroon

[littleredbirdy]

It's not mind boggling, as it can easily be explained (I'm sure someone explained it).....It's all encompassing and one of the most important allegories of all time.

The glasses ruined it for me.

[flipazn65]

how is this a waste of time? The allegory of the cave is truly a mind-boggling philosophy.

[marisoldrama]

Someone, tell me. All the songs from this vid.

And, thanks for making this video. Now I understand my homework, for tomorrow's test.

[pyt8661]

bitchin

[dynamitekicker]

OK this is Youtube not church

[PiTrinam]

Namaste dynamitekicker. I do not even go to 'church'. I believe religion is a barrier to Enlightenment. Oum Namah Shivaya!

Light!2U&Yours!

[PeacefulCritic]

Powerful philosophy. Dynamitekicker just proved Plato. PiTrinam came to speak about the light and he has been wacked.

[PiTrinam]

Peace! &Thanks! PiTrinam

[Siglak]

No, PiTrinam tryed to provide another source of illusions, I think if we really want to compare Jesus to something, he is the one that is projecting the images.

[PiTrinam]

'God', not Jesus.

Media/Maya

[platypuscookie]

I agree, it helped me understand it. I so wish "This guy is wack, let's waste him" was in the original allegory.

[aniki91344]

Great project, I love your interpretation!

[commonxtragedy]

That definitely made The Allegory more interesting. Thank you so much =]

[caity6490]

seriously thank you

[rachthegreat2]

LUSH

[sheilabarbarian]

rad

[gnich62]

i need to think whoever made this video, definitely helped me understand the allegory better.

[ayolopez]

i could swear that this was filmed at UCI

[muratello]

I like your interpretation, pretty much how i visualised it in the modern world :)

What's the song when 'the freed' is talking to the prisoners?

[cactusescomeinflocks]

"knowitall" by phantom planet

[billymisfits]

whatever

[rotweed]

Jeremy walked out of a cave into another cave.

[goldsaturn25]

The Beatles Song is "And Your Bird Can Sing" off of the Revolver Album. Excellent choice BTW!

[pistolstarter85]

good choice of music!

[bhold1]

very good.

[ghettokid850]

hahahahhaa, awesome

[MistarX]

Well done. What beatles tune is that?

[CharmBaby]

Pretty sure that isn't beatles..sounds like Ben Lee

[alkaline1832]

Do you people not know who death cab for cutie is?

[alkaline1832]

my bad, i thought you were talking about the first song.

[onehate]

The Postal Service - This Place is a Prison

[MistarX]

I'll try it. I am referring to the one after he is done mounting the bear...

[magnuska80]

it's "and my bird can sing" from revolver, 1966. Truly a great song!

[MistarX]

TYVM ;)