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  • MrSKINFLIK; Yes, it is a great song......but "New Dawn Fades" is always the one that gets to me!

  • One of the strongest and most important rock and roll songs ever written and performed.

    Prophets - not of doom - but of utter reality which might come later....today..... Ian Curtis was an epileptic + though i don´t don´t want to glorify this state, the old Greeks maintained that epilepsy was a state with a connection to god, who knows ? i am not an epileptic, but i experienced some live (also Curtis live on stage) and their medication is important, thanks to modern medicine......

  • One of the strongest and most important rock and roll songs ever written and performed.

  • The sky is gorgeous in this video!

  • I love Joy Division. Preston 28 February 1980 is one of the best cds I have.

  • This is footage of Manchester? only been there once. Anyway really appropriate for the song. Especially the sunlight since this is one of Joy Division's less "drained/depressed" sounding songs.

  • this is top joy division...but what isn't

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  • Great song, but could do with a re-mix and re-release, this tune.

    Digital backing track and bass a bit too low in the mix.

  • joy division got me thro the 80's

  • @rubberplantsandwich Joy Division gets me through every waking day :'(

  • @Darkgabo9 lmao, know what you mean there

    

  • Ireland like the UK is in economic decline due to European Health and Safety Burocracy and the Compensation Culture and the Governments wasting billions on it.

    One fine example is kids dying in UK Hospitals whilst Lawyers on upto £800 per hour are suing the NHS.

  • 8 people are complete tosses what a great song !!!

  • Freakin Burg totally..fucking great ...miss Ian

  • seak not bleak Seek

  • Silverlake's soundtrack!

  • so incredibly bleak

  • was this the video of the song or someone made this up?

  • This song IS positive.....

  • always upload

  • no wonder Jaz from Killing Joke called it "an industrial wastelend"

  • an positive song. fuck off you automatons.give me yer shock treatment.

  • Driving around Manchester. So glad I don't live there

  • Can you stay for these days? Ian couldn't.

  • @mistomen

    How dare you.

  • @mistomen These days are better because of him . DBAG : )

  • @mistomen i'm still here

  • sublime

  • Fucking awesome track.Joy Division were sounding more and more futurisic at this stage of their short lived career.Greeat choice for the B side of Love Will Tear Us Apart.

  • @paulbongiorno

    I like how you say "when he was with us in body" because, as cliche as it sounds, I'd like to think he's still with us in his words and music, ya know?

  • Hannett showing off his magical brilliant background soundscapes here against a terrific song

  • manc tw@ts. (-:

  • i'm a Manchester man . "THESE DAYS" ,i llive in Ireland ,which at the moment is ,an economic black hole . At least i can watch this video of Joy Division , and be depressed and home sick at the same time .

  • @andymckelvey1967 My dad and his family are from Manchester. Tough people. Looks grim.

  • Hannets masterful echo chamber influence is all over the intro.

    Martin - RIP!

  • NICE!

  • This can't be beaten...it just CAN'T!

  • @axel8492 But it CAN! by the live version!

  • Thats funny, the video ends right outside The Grey Horse - My favourite pub!

    Great music - I was lucky to see them twice and both times they were amazing. The lasting memory is that the audience really didn´t know how to react to them. It was post punk and apart from Magazine and Section 25 few were really so sparce with their sound. Its fair to say most people were awestruck. Cheers!

  • Another edition to you Dark music collection. Name on Youtube is  WISPRWORLD. Big fan of Joy Division and very influenced by the style of music they did. Subscribe to my channel and you will receive my new material as soon as is done. Thanks.

  • Damn it Ian.. There was soo much more to live for.. >.< R.I.P

  • @clancy2k do u have EPILEPCY... CUNT

  • 2 people have gangrene of the head

  • the guitar part in the beginning of the chorus is really good

  • welcome to prison planet, we are all slaves so lets wake the fuck up and put and end to it all

  • NIce vid mate.  Shows the environment they grew up in. Start Warsaw, or work in one of those dull factories along the canal.

  • goosebums

    

  • @amsinin :

  • F . great"

  • Fantastic track indeed.

  • This tune and Love will tear us apart on the flip side of the 7" will always be special for me. The first thing I heard on my first ever joint and my first ever experience of what a joint does to audio. I could rant on and on but each and every one of you out there knows exactly what I mean.

    The first time is the one you never forget and lovingly remember

    A big thank you to Joy Division! & John Peel RIP dude loved your music nights all those years ago. Respect sir!!! Peace.

  • Well that isn't Salford is it?

  • defenitely buying Substance...was surfing for the album songs and im sold! jaja

  • :D i just bought the compilation of 1977 to 1980 today its great and for a cheap price lol , they had Still deluxe version with 2 discs but maaaan so expensive like 39 dollars

  • A lot of the atmosphere - no pun - has been stripped out of Manchester. The little shops in the little streets around Manchester main rail station, where I got my Smiths T shirts in 1990. Gone. That whole scene, memorabilia shops, badges, vinyl, died a long time ago. Cool chicks with DMs and cool cuts. Now Manchester is like everywhere else. Robotic, obsessed with silly millennium bridges, to keep with up with the derby cities. Useless.

  • @transonicbuoy1

    Damn! Seattle went the same route! Is there anywhere cool anymore? 

  • @transonicbuoy1 The whole western World is becoming a characterless, banal, overpopulated unoriginal piece of concrete.

  • real fucking music,you cant beat joy division....

  • The bassist really knew how to whack those strings. After Heart and Soul my favourite song from JD! What album is this on?

  • @whoah1988

    it was a b-side to "love will tear us apart" (I thinK) - I'll check my collection later tonight!

  • one of my fav songs by JD

  • A cool tune and video.

  • This song's background tune sounds very much like Rick James' Super Freak

  • @blazeyadeadhomiesyes are u fuckin crazy 1rst that a mchammer song stolen. 2nd that's completely different from this ! i dont meant to be rude soz but im drunk and hate this kind of comments

  • Joy Division tattoos the soul...loved since the day.

    About :20 seconds in I realize it looks like the Pink Floyd's "Animals" album sans Winged Pig!

  • this is manchester brits??? looked like the 19 century river city factory machinery type city... still looks like in the old days?

  • @badsign1980

    The aerial shots im not sure where they're of, but it looks like a typical Manchester industrial affair, possibly Macclesfield way (relating to ian curtis` hometown)

    The driving section is central manchester

    The driver enters picadilly bus station, does a u-turn and exits at the end , turning onto portland st.

  • @scotty12347 The canal shots start just East of Manchester city centre moving on to the Manchester ship canal at Salford near Colgate Palmolive

  • @badsign1980 : the Manchester Shipping Canal. A lot of it now gone,as is the Hacienda,under a rash of new "City living" apartment blocks. The shots cross the city; from east to west.

  • eating lots and lots of lsd and listening to joy div was a mind and spirit journey. this song could always bring me back, closer to home!

  • Me fascina Joy Division.

    Es sencillamente algo genial.

  • inesperado comentario para alguien que le importa muy poco todo :P

  • ja, salvo la musica, me importa muy poco todo :P

  • favorit!!!!

  • JD's songs are depressing in sublime way. i love them <3

  • Very fu----- incredible.

  • definately my favorite joy division song

  • BADASS!

  • It's always nice to see two schizophrenics carry on an argument on youtube... much better than simply muttering to themselves.

  • top tune,...love JD

  • lov that track, Manchester "beautiful" lol. It's looks like the nightmare from hell, absolutely ghastly. All concrete, built up, & industrial. It puts acid in your stomach, that's how bad it looks.

    Is it true that Manchester is the city that invented the colour "gray"?

  • Is it true that Manchester is the city that invented the colour "gray"?

    No, Manchester invented the colour "Grey"...

  • lol like your cheap sarcasm. The question is asked on Yahoo answers.

    'Best Answer - Chosen by Voters

    if you are in america: color

    uk: colour

    america: grey

    uk: gray

    uk: theatre

    america: theater

    my old english teacher used to take points off our reports if we used them incorrectly!!

    XD'

  • Gray is a color.

    Grey is a *colour*.

    I live in England and I am in the second year of an English Language Degree at Manchester University...

  • gray is also someone's name.

    So are you saying in the UK they use "grey" , as in the colour

    and the other one "gray" is used in the USA?

    2nd year? Is that all lol

  • The degree is a three year course you fool.

    And yes, UK-grey and USA-gray.

  • you are an arrogant tosser.

    cite authority university boy for what you claim:

    'And yes, UK-grey and USA-gray.'

    your mindless assertions are unsatisfactory

  • you're a communist so i can't really take offense haha

    :)

  • i'm in america and i always use colour. Oh Dear.

  • give me a pair of your cheap mondays!

  • "searched hard for you and your special ways" i love the beat and the lyrics to this song...i also think it's very personal to ian...he writes in this song"used outward deception to get away,broken heart romance to make it pay" i think he is writing about his affair with anneck... so personal,so touching,so affecting....

  • what city is being shown?

  • Manchester,that's where they wer from and where the Madchester scene started in the 80's.

  • this is manchester? its beautiful

    i hope i get the chance to visit one day

  • it's not really anything special,jus very industrial,we went a few year back to see Rammstein nd there was nowhere to go for a drink,it had absolutely no Nightlife,shame cas it has some interesting history.

  • well im only 17 and i live in los angeles, california and even now im not much of a nightlife person so im not too worried.

    id really just like to visit for the experience; the history, food, that sorta thing

  • yeah that sound's cool, im not sayin don't go,everywhere's an experience. i live in Newcastle in England and me and my pal drove down to London not so long ago,that place is crazy,so humid and really big,if you go anywhere on the train you feel like your gonna pass out. lol how far away do you live from Pasadena?

  • so London is a great place?

    Pasadena is 30-45 minutes from my place. i live in Hawthorne, where the beach boys are from

  • it's alright if you have some place to stay and if you plan ahead b4 u go anywhere but im not much ov a city person, i prefer camping and outdoor's. Hawthorne ay, i would really like to go to San Francisco especially during the whole hippy movement in the 60's nd 70's. lol

  • i got a cartoon u should watch on youtube,it's called Stressed Eric,each episode is in 3 part's i used to watch it when i was bowt 11, it's really funny.

  • the food lol

  • well u wouldnt go to manchester for that

  • On of JD's best songs!

  • Such a good tune

  • @ady10001: Several dozen years head of these times now: THESE DAYS - JOY DIVISION !

  • u cunt they are the best

  • you sound like a 4 year old

  • Fuck wit!

  • No one asked you what you thought cheesedick. The best part of you ran down the crack of your momma's ass

  • mankchester9

  • The tone change at 1:20 really suprised me.. makes the song sound dynamic!

  • eeeeaaahhhhh excelente cancion esas guitarras machacantes... excelente

  • his baritone voice is so great!

  • joy division is the best bad there has ever been

    now everyone call your congressman and stop this creeping socialism

  • hey, isn't it Manchester?

  • yeah joy division is the name of the "houses" in the camps in which there were only women and the nazis used them daily to obtain some "joy.."

  • These Days i shop at PRIMARK

  • I know how that feels. I have a deep interest in WWII and Nazis but don't identify with anything they stood for. I've caught some shit for it before.

  • yeh so have i like stating dates of things that happened my math teachers like how do u kno this almost in an accusing voice

  • i think new orders name probs just came from the fact that they are a new order derivative from joy division

  • Joy division!!!!!!!!!!

  • i find solace in this song regardless of my mood. it's just satisfying

  • what the fuck

    TGMF83 and 6motion6!

    love this song "morning seems strange, almost out of place" - "we'll drift through it all, it's the modern age"

  • Best.

  • i freaking love joy division <3

  • Great song! this band created new wave from the ashes of punk and still had an edge- although new wave never lived up to the promise that Joy Division made----- this band changed music for their time as much as Nirvana did in the nineties. What do you think?

  • sir, well put.

  • agree

  • been into joy division since i was 13 when i heard Love Will Tear Us Apart on the radio. Found an album of theirs on offer 2 months later, bought it and never stopped listening to it.

  • Never gets boring - they are primo- and the more young kiddies who learn and hear them- the better.

  • this song just gets me going. it's really intense for me. i fucking love it

  • I am a Joy Division fan despite the fact that their name is what Hitler's boys called the jewish women who were forced to "make love" to them.

  • i dont think that will ever reallymatter, its justr a name they thoguht sounded 'punk' got nothign to do with what it really really meant

  • I almost wonder if they made up the name w/out being aware of its history. Anyway, this name hasn't been an impediment to my "joy" of listening to their music. I also think many of their fans probably have no idea of what that term refers to.

  • they knew of it, bernard sumner said he was reading an old propaganda panflet and saw the words' joy division' after likign the anme he read on and found out what it meant but thoguht the name sounded punk so he told the rest of the band about it.

  • It seems as if several people thought I was trying to be politically correct by bringing up the origin of the band's name.I noticed some downward thumbs. Although I'm Jewish (but avoid practicing it, as I would any other religion) I love this band and don't care if they used the name. The name is pretty good and I might have been tempted to use it myself. I don't believe they were Nazi sympathizers.

  • Theres a great two hour DVD you can get called 'joy division' its explained there how they got the name. They were called Warsaw and wanted an image change, the lead guitarist was reading a book about Nazi war crimes and saw the 'Joy Division' history and just loved the name thats all, they weren't Nazis.

  • The name was used in an ironical sense.

  • Didn't New Order (who Joy Division became) take their name from Hitler's desire for a new order of National Socialism? Big fan of both bands by the way.

  • joy division is named after a group of women forced to be prostitutes in the nazi concentration camps.

  • quite possibly, especially knowing where joy division came from

  • wow...listen to 2:31 where they started adding that synthesizer...I love the added dissonance (spell?)

  • good video. well done.

  • Amazing. Love it!

  • I like the live version better though.

  • I know Joy Division weren't musos, and their music was never about musical virtuosity, but I can never get over how cool some of the stuff that Bernard Sumner and Peter Hook came up with. This song is a perfect example. Check out the interplay between Bernard and Hooky and during the instrumental bits.

  • Yeah for some reason I've always thought that this song was pretty easily their greatest musical and instrumental achievement

  • at what stage in the life of joy division was this song written? id imagine it to be a very late one.

  • January 1980 this was recorded, so only 4 months before we lost Ian

  • It's hard to believe this song is 29 years old. I still love it.

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  • Is this a scenic view of Manchester?

  • The 1st min was flying over Ancoat's.

    Has i used too live there,and most of my Family still do

  • We'll drift through it all, it's the modern age.

  • Such great lyrics...

    Morning seems strange, almost out of place.

    Searched hard for you and your special ways.

    These days, these days.

    Spent all my time, learnt a killer's art.

    Took threats and abuse 'till I'd learned the part.

    Can you stay for these days?

    These days, these days.

    Used outward deception to get away,

    Broken heart romance to make it pay.

  • Hey, thanks for the lyrics. I've always wondered about them.

  • I agree with the past comments, this video matches the song quite well. And its a VERY good song.

  • Very good , matches the song very well!

  • jeez, what a video!

  • FODA...MUTIO BOM

  • CAN YOU STAY FOR THESES DAYS???

  • BLOODY AWESOME!!!

  • Great song!

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