You say the atoms had to be "Fine tuned" because of the strength of the force that binds them, yet if your god defined physics, would any "tuning" be needed as you beleive he chooses how strong or weak anything is?
If the universe had to be created by a god, who created god.. If the universe has always been, there was no need for god. If something can come from nothing, there is no need for god.
You either fall into zeno's paradox/infinite continuum, or you fall into the category of god wasn't even needed to make us.
Matter could not have came from nothing, but god could have come from nothing.
I did not see one convincing argument in this entire video, just the same theist broken record of arguments.
Not one thing discovered in science suggests a great designer. Only subjective human opinions based on the from ignorance fallacy exist. "I cant imagine how this perfet blah blah was created, therefor, god exists."
This is good stuff. I wish all theists focused more on stuff like this and less on the bible. This is a great way for you theists to learn science. What you do with the info is up to you, but at least you won't look like fools when you start fighting science. This is great. thumbs up.
Santa Claus is to children as God is to adults. Every child discovers that Santa is fake, and that he is folklore told by their parents. God is the same, although the "parents" are tradition passed through history.
None of what is shown in this video proves the existence of a god, a creator. It is possible that there are an infinite amount of multiverses with random laws of physics. There has not to be a creator or fine tuner, when all possibilities are there, one of them is the correct one. We only know of the one we can inhabit.
Scientists make conclusions based on observation and evidence. Universal constants are observed, but nothing suggests that they were made that way. Therefore, we can only conclude that they exist. The same goes for the universe, which has evidence of existing but no evidence of ever not existing. Science makes conclusions based on evidence. Without evidence, there is no conclusion. Religion assumes a deity justifies the unexplained. It is always more valid to not know than to assume.
you know, really.. free will or not, God is supposed to be ALL POWERFUL. unless god is such a conceited asshole he'd rather sit on his throne scowling at us and expecting us to blindly believe (when HE gave us our curiosity and intellect!!), he could SO easily make himself ACTUALLY apparent to us. these facts prove nothing, and saying that "god did it" tells us nothing about how things work. science has slowly explained many things assumed to be supernatural, and it will keep doing so
Actually, most people choose not to believe in god because of the credible evidence provided by the beauty of the world around us, not cruelty. The Christian religion discards all other species as mistakes, and mankind as a divine creation. That makes God guilty of one of the seven Christian sins: Pride. And just by supporting your own religion and trying to convert others, you are guilty of it too. I'm glad I'M not retarded. Oops, meant to say Christian. Close enough either way.
The very fact theres Lust,fear,love,patience,man,hope,careing, proofs that god exsist this is the short life question is heaven or hell?theres also someone called Satan/Lucifer/Devil/Beast he wispers thoughts into are mind anything that dosent uphold uprise or isint of god is not from god and you must cast it out!
@TheTruecompassion If Satan can control minds, how do you know that you're contacting Gd. God is always preforming miracles, Right? That means Satan would be free 24/7. That's more than enough time to brainwash all of you mindless retards into following him. Most wars are religious wars, after all. See this paragraph, by the way? I'm not sure you can read it, and I am deeply sorry. You see, I'm using what most call "correct grammar". But that's for smart people, you wouldn't understand it.
So god is good and the devil is bad, right? Who told you that? God? That's a biased view isn't it?
If I had a hotel and I'd publish a review of it, would you believe it? Same goes for me writing a negative review of another hotel in that same situation.
You can't believe god's written word. It's not objective.
This all assuming god exists and the bible contains the word of god. I don't assume.
Ps you dont see God in this video....the reason is...how can you believe in something that you are not a part of. it go right back to what God said many will come but few will be chosen.....you may be one of the few. if you are grown and have seen no visions or Godly dreams I would be worry as to why.
I want to see they faces when all is said and done. I seen the new earth coming from heaven,I dont know why God shown me this,I'm happy he did. I even seen Ron my son who is with christ now. I praise God and my childerns know of God. This may sound bad but if the truth must be told many will come but few will be chosen.....
Peoples that dont see God in anything....dont worry me..I cried once when God said many will come but few will be chosen, Just reading some of the commets I understand what God was saying, he can not have evil enter heaven. When I read evil comments about God the first thing come to mind is these are the peoples he speak of.
Moses, and he said to them, " The LORD God of Israel commands you tothrough the camp, killing your relatives, your friends, and your neighbors." The men of the Levi tribe followed his orders, and that day they killed about three thousand men. Moses said to them, " You obeyed the LORD and did what was right, and so you will serve as his priests for the people of Israel. It was hard for you to kill your own sons and brothers, but the LORD has blessed you
@kkatyy10196 incorrect, gravitational forces are dependant on size of objects and distance from them. all matter exerts gravity, just not necessarily enough to overcome forces of friction and such. hence why we know that the moon (1/6 earth mass roughly) exerts 1/6 gravitational force
All matter in the universe is attracted to all other matter in the universe with a force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the distance between them. So gravitational forces on people are insignificant in space but stars are attracted to each other and our sun orbits the center of the galaxy due to its gravity.
i don't see how this proves anything.... all you're saying is that god is real cuz good stuff happens...not everything has a creator. Rocks are pieces of minerals that were fused together through heat or pressure. I don't think that a magical man in the sky is banging rocks together or lighting them on fire....
This video proves nothing about the existence of a god, in fact it is completely illogical. Filling scientific gaps of knowledge, with something like god is an intellectual cop-out. Just because we don't understand something at all, or yet, doesn't make any conjecture of any kind (most especially a supernatural entity), valid to any degree. You need to start being more honest, and stop perpetuating the ignorance of intellectual cop-outs. It's counter productive.
Here is what I think: While this video points out some interesting things, it doesn't prove or disprove the existance of God. I'm an Agnostic Theist, meaning that I do not claim to know or not know the existance of a creator, I'm open minded to the possibility that something out there exists, I just don't believe any of the religions we have right now, there are so many Gods, so how can you point to just one and say its the one? Simple answer, you can't, and we never will have that ability.
What is wrong with the world. It never seizes to shock me how biased athiests are. Would you really believe in an error then accept you have been proven wrong? You have waited 4 science 2 prove ur theories correct and now that its proved it false u will not stop!! I thought scientists were meant 2 be objective. The human race is sad. May you 1day accept the glory of God
@sKoTyo I am completely confused about what point you're trying to make here. What's been proved wrong? What theories aren't "correct". What are you trying to imply?
"Read the dying words of famous atheists and you will see that they realised too late what a terrible mistake they'd made in denying God"
If what you mean by that is that people on their death-bed desperately create god or gods on the spot for their own comfort, I agree entirely. The "no atheists in foxholes" argument is one of the best arguments against the existence of god or gods. It proves what the mind will do for its own comfort. But the universe doesn't have to accomodate your comfort.
Obviously you didn't read the "last words of dying atheists", otherwise you'd realise that far from creating gods for their own comfort, they came to realise the Truth that had eluded them all their lives. They saw flames, a black abyss and sense of being removed from love and light for eternity, a dark frightening chasm from which they could never escape. Hardly comforting !
@Indigohue You haven't the foggiest idea of what ego is if you're a faith based believer in any religion. You have no understanding of humility if you adhere to the arrogance of theism... that is, the claims of absolute truth. You need to buy a new dictionary.
I would imagine that acknowledging there is a Creator is a far more humble stance than that postured by an atheist who clearly thinks nothing greater than himself exists!
@Indigohue I really don't know how to simplify this anymore, so that you may understand. A humble acknowledgement of something, requires that something to be either tangible or evident. A "creator", thus far, doesn't fall into that criteria. And, atheism is simply a disbelief in god. How is it a display of humility to proclaim something exists without one iota of proof? Am I being humble when I say I believe and trust in the invisible magic lizard that lives under my bed?!
How is it shallow or bigoted? Just because you have no belief in hell or heaven doesn't mean they don't exist. It might be wishful thinking on your part that they don't because you desperately want to believe there is no accountablility for our sins.
Matthew 7 13-14 Enter through the narrow gate, for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction.For the gate is small & the way narrow that leads to life and few there be that find it"
Terrorists think they're doing good things in the eye of God. If God has been here forever, that would've required an ifnite source of energy...that's impossible.
It is deluded and egotistical to think that this supposed "evidence" points to a particular personal "god" or being. Science and religion combined is not fact. Saying that all the suffering in the world takes place because humans aren't following "god's" laws should never have even been brought up. This video was not about proving anything but only to provoke an empathic emotional response by being bombarded with slow music and negative imagery. Share facts and not your religious belief.
@arakaramian Do you really think God would ridicule himself as to let himself become a formula on a peice of paper? If just seeing a burning bush turned Moses' hair white, imagine what seeing God would do to people. Also, everyone thinks that christians are violent. Atheists don't realize that how inferior human beings are to everything in the universe, even ourselves. We haven't even left our solar system. We haven't found a cure for aids or cancer, despite killing millions of animals. wow
You know, I feel bad for blind people. Because they can't see the beautiful animals and nature itself. On the other hand I envi them, because they can't see what mess we are making of it. Mostly in the name of GOD!. Well, at least im not the only reasonable person in the world to see religion is full of shit!.
if anyone can show me just one example in the history of the world of a single
Spiritual or religious person who has been able to prove either logically or empirically the existence of a higher power that has any consciousness or interest in the human race or ability to punish or reward humans for there moral choices or that there is any reason - other than fear - to believe in any version of an afterlife
Ill give you my piano, one of my legs, and my wife
So when you're unable to explain where the universe came from, you have to resort to a designer ('God' if you will)? Where did this God come from? Did he create himself? Did another God create him? The introduction of a designer solves nothing, as you would then have to explain where the designer came from. Oh and don't give me that crap of ''he was always there'', that's a very easy way out so you don't have to think about it.
@Flameseeker006 the brain is made of matter, and it takes energy to make that matter function. I belieive in the jumble of mess that was the beginning, there was a combination of mass and energy that had sentience, and over time gained power, as God of the bible claimed to be in everything in existence long before we discovered that everything has energy in its being. As long as Multiverse is here, no one can say what does and does not exist. Possibly even all fictional characters exist.
Whatever props you got for not falling for the old Einstein was a theist canard were destroyed when you juxtaposed African poverty with a gay pride parade. Especially when considering the role Churches play in perpetuating the AIDS epidemic. Then you blow your credibility completely with the fine tuning argument. You know what the universe is really well designed for? Making black holes and dying of heat death. That's not proof of God.
@AHPMB Actually, Michio Kaku believes the Universe will die of a lack of heat (or freeze) more than anything. Also, as long as the multiverse exists, all things literally are possible.
Atheistic evolutionist doesn't mean anything; the two have nothing in common. I would still be an atheist without evolution. The dumb ass shit in the bible is what does it for most atheists.
Here's a question for theists to ponder. If there are no humans, will God still exist? Would there be anyone with a high enough thinking capacity to grasp the concept of God? Which points to God just being a concept in the mind of humans. AKA delusions and hallucinations.
God is still God if you want to believe him or not, people have no proof of God not existing, they just make up some many things so they do have to believe in God and do want ever they want without any regret.
(3) If they acknowledge that life and a universe could not exist if these laws were even slightly different, then they acknowledge that God is not all-powerful and therefor that the common theistic concept of God is impossible.
Finally, if it's the case that there are pre-existing laws and rationality to the universe then do we still need God in order to account for that rationality?
On the other hand, if a universe and life can exist according to different laws, then there's nothing particularly special or unique about the laws we currently have.
Incidentally, all life exists according to these laws so it makes perfect sense that if they were changed the life that exists now would not be possible.
The theist is obliged to acknowledge the possibility of different fundamental laws or they must accept that God is not omnipotent.
(1) I find that the 'fine-tuning' argument actually contradicts religion.
If it's the case that an all-powerful God exists then that God would be able to create a universe and life that could exist according to whatever laws it wanted.
If that is not possible then there must be pre-existing laws and rationality, even within this crude 'material' universe, that prevent it, irrespective of God's omnipotence.
WOw this was the biggest bullshit ever LMAO there is proven that your jesus was never real Jesus is in your imagination people who are scared to not know what happins when you die
The complexity of the strong force? I never knew the attraction between nucleons was so complex it requires a designer. Hydrogen-1 doesn't require the strong force, only deuterium, and heavier nuclei do.
Darwin wasn't an atheist, and his "hypothesis" is as provable as genesis.
If science could prove the existence of any diety all scientists would believe in said diety, it is as simple as that. If there were irrefuteable empirical evidence of the existence of a diety there would be no reason not to believe in that diety. The existence of the physical constants is not proof of a diety, it is proof of the physical constants existing. You are wrong about the seconds after the big bang as well. The universe was entirely energy for millions of years before particles formed.
don't try to "answer" questions with "God did it." look for the real answer. The origin of life may not be an easy subject to tackle, but those who are actually working on it unlock the type of knowledge that has increased the quality and quantity of life.
It saddens me that people take videos like this seriously. It's also ironic to include videos of 9/11, an act at least partially motivated by the belief in a god that is just as plausible as the one promoted in this video. GROW UP PEOPLE. Think for yourselves and stop believing fairy tales.
nope... didnt see god anywhere there... maybe u shuld circle him in red so that we can see him.... what's that? he cannot be seen? oh... well im sure he does a lot for humanity on a daily basis in order for us to back him up so much... u know? like cure deadly diseases and save starving children in africa. Right?
Trying to prove god with today's science is as hard as trying to power the large hadron collider with nothing but a generator made out of toothpicks and semen... so there you have it
Proving that God exist is effortless. Science is in fact the easiest way of doing so because science is the discovery, documentation, and adherance to countless laws that cannot be broken. Inside a random universe there would be no laws.
Science is, by definition, always proved wrong. Because unlike religion is is based on the scientific method of observation, formulation of hypothesis, testing of such hypothesis and then creation of a theory which can be taken as a fact or then tested against and prooved incorrect. By you saying that in a random universe there would be no laws and using this in order to prove god's existence is ridiculous because the opposite holds true as well, specially since nothing thus far has shown him
Actually the Laws of Thermodynamics are the RESULT of randomness. They are derived from Statistical Physics which takes as its one assumption that everything is random and equally likely.
Laws in science are models to explain observed phenomena: the 'best fit' to the data. When new data comes in and the model doesn't fit any more, a new model, a new 'Law' is needed.
So laws CAN be broken, in a sense, but they are always still applicable in the limited range they were valid for.
This vid sure is serious, and it shows that you have to believe to be saved by god. what is the point of BELIEVING if there is evidence? If there is evidence then it would be call knowing, but god wants you to believe in him
All this video has done is inform us of all the latest scientific data ( well apart from Dawkins alleged suggestion of the multiverse which comes from the latest attempts by physics to explain quantum theory). koft has it spot on, if the churches had had their way, you would not be able to even offer this kind of evidence.
Mark Twain said (and I paraphrase) something like: he saw no reason to be afraid of dying because when he died, he would just return back to a place where he had already been for millions of years.
which is, I speculate, one of the MANY reasons why faith and religion are so persistent: not only do they provide an answer to just such a question you've asked, but they also find a way for man to become immortal. We're afraid of death and the unknown, so we've created a way to circumvent them
Sorry, wasnt it religion that, not 300 years ago, was denying atoms and electro magnetism. People were imprisoned, tortured and burnt at the stake for believing what you now claim as proof of God. Maybe in 300 years time Richard Dawkins will be the second coming and the movie Dogma will be the Holy Scripture. WAKE UP!!!
If I only knew what "substainment" meant (used twice in this lame presentation) then maybe, I too, could believe in this fantasy of a supernatural being.
Richard Dawkins at least has intellectual honesty on his side when asked, 'how did we get here"? by replying that he does not know, whereas religion declares truths for which there is no backing.
and he almost died again and survived, me and my cousin and my wife who was pregnant at the time got in a car wreck, was hit head on by a drunk driver and we werent wearing our seatbelts in a firebird...it was 145mph impact and I was the one who called the police to come and save my wife and baby...once again they still are with me...during the collision i felt GOD take me and hold me and i didnt even get a scratch...If you want data..proof then I could send you all of it in the mail to prove it
well, my mom died and came back in front of me...now she has a pacemaker, my grandpa almost died of a heart failer...once again pacemaker...he is still alive....my dad got stuck on a train track when his car died and miraculously the car was knocked in neutral and rolled off the track as he covered his head screaming for life and the train did not hit him....my brother was a herion addict and recovered after an overdose and then 2 months later an I beam from a house being built fell on his head
and if thats not enough...I have a video of me taping lighting...and a bolt came down and struck me and the batteries in my camera were fried...i have that video if you wish to see...but only if you promise to not disbelieve......I swear I could prove it all....another thing is i was going through a hard time when I started filming lightning and just before the lightning I asked GOD to strike some sense into me...and it was so....not once but I got jolted not once but twice
and if I did not really believe that there was no GOD then I would not have just told you most of the horrible memories that haunt me......I care about you as do I care for GOD...
You are one of those caring, considerate Christians as I was when I believed (didn't have a whole lot of faith, was raised Christian). I also didn't know the things I know now about the bible. Maybe there is some sort of divine force (or energy that I know exists in everyone and everything) that can heal and save lives, but the bible is just a book with ancient explanations of nature, sun-symbolism, mistranslations, and many examples of plagiarism from other religions.
I was starting to think this was sarcastic and actually an atheistic video since what's shown in the video does not support the bible or other religions. if anything maybe there is a god that created everything, but things written in the bible and other myths thousands of years ago are certainly preposterous like universe created in 6 days for example.
prove that it was not created in 6 days!...I cant disprove or prove anything...the only thing i know is that i know nothing at all...no matter what anyone thinks or tries to prove...you will never be able to prove that there was not a god...not you....but im just saying....
are you kidding me??? you don't even have to prove it. the bible says that on the first day god created the light. On the second day god created an expanse between the waters to separate waters from waters and called that expanse "sky" (one good example of how the bible & ancient peoples thought the earth was the center of everything). Day 3: god created land and vegetation. To be continued...
Day 4: created sun, moon, and stars; "and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth (just the earth? lol, another example). Day 5: created the creatures of the sky and of the water. Day 6: created creatures of the land and man "in our image". Without believing in a plagiarized, sun-symbolic, mistranslated book, do you really think that those things would be possible in 6 days??
i would stop trying man......just because it says to give light on the earth......does not mean just the earth.....if god wanted it to say just the earth then he would of had it written that way....your thinking is off a little...think outside the box....that is true faith....
is it possible to create a human from nothing at all...treated as the earth was life then the worlds creation is to advanced for you to understand if you do not understand....
come up with some way for yourself to believe in the way you want to believe....GOD loves to hear people talk and try to prove that he did or didnt do something. as long as the eye is on GOD he will be happy.....I pray for you....not wish to fight but to rejoice.....time is for people to love one another..we are in hard times....we need to stay strong in faith and spread the word of GOD....gloverage
where is this god and why won't he show his supposed love? then of course there's the mistranslations, plagiarism, and sun-symbolism of the bible. Nature, then men created religions like Summerian, Egyptian, Mithran, etc; then Levites from Egypt created the Talmud, then rest of Old Testament (both inspired from Egyptian mythology), then Calpurnius Piso family [of Rome] wrote at least 4 books of New Testament (4 gospels).
just because you dont have any faith does not mean that i wont have any faith or someone else wont have any faith....anyways once again god loves to hear people talk about him, no matter if its bad or good so keep going...LOL
I won't see Jesus when I die (if I did I would call him Yahushua - Hebrew; Jesus is Greek translation and he would prolly prefer the Hebrew if he existed). Again what makes you think he exists? What gives you faith? Please satisfy my curiosity and don't give me the run-around.
I get it I've seen the error of my "sinful" ways of being an Atheist.... oh wait I just had a rational thought and well this BS just lost all its significance. Though I'm glad you find solace in your "Messiah"... Horace right? no no wait um Mithras? crap. I don't think that's right... Krishna! no? hummm can't be Zoroaster, right? well whoever it is may they... do that pretty blessing thing or whatever.
Lets make this very clear, science cannot disprove god, ever. Science can disprove the stories in the bible, but it cannot prove OR disprove god. Because god is everything that we cannot directly observe or interact with and is unmeasureable. This video proves absolutly nothing. We don't know what causes electromagnetic forces or how the first universe was created but that doesn't mean we will never know. It also doesn't mean that god must be interacting with our universe.
It does mean we can never know, Science requires the scientific method, and scientific method just can't do that, it's far from the reaches of Science. The idea of God or no God is a philosophical one, and the Atheists to me are philosophically dead.
Also, on Science disproving the stories in the Bible, I'm not sure you know what my religion is to say such an ignorant remark.
" it's absurd to doubt that a man may be an ardent Theist and an evolutionist"
No what I'm saying is that we don't know what causes electromagnetic forces. In the sameway 400 years ago we didn't know how the sun burnt, why the sky was blue or why objects fall towards the ground. 400 years ago people might have said, "god makes the sun burn/the sky blue/objects fall" but now we know better. Just because we don't know how the forces between atoms or the forces of gravity are transfered or created, doesn't mean "god makes the atoms hold together
"Just because we don't know how the forces between atoms or the forces of gravity are transfered or created, doesn't mean "god makes the atoms hold together"
Electromagnetism is one of the four fundamental forces, it is enforced by bosons. These bosons are called Photons (Y), we Know how they work, we know when they broke away, but Science can't ever prove how they got there, and if we do prove it (impossible), we will end up with something like the cosmological constant, very unlikely.
We don't know how they work, we just know they work. How is gravity transfered from a planet to a satalite with nothing touching, or even any air between? we simply know it does. That's what i'm trying to say.
Also to your first comment, I said you cannot prove or disprove god then you say you can't prove or disprove god with science what's your point? On bible stories I do beleive the bible features people getting revived, magic forces parting seas and people genrally perfroming things that we never see now cameras have been invented.these things are clearly in the realm of reality we should have no problem repeating them. Lastly yes god is the only possible philosophy so we are philosophically dead
"On bible stories I do beleive the bible features people getting revived, magic forces parting seas and people genrally perfroming things that we never see now cameras have been invented."
That's only your belief, for example the crossing of the red sea has a scientific explanation behind it, and it has been proven to be possible, and archeology supports the idea, but the thing is there is a natural cause, but a very very very improbable one, enough to be called a "miracle", don't believe idc
"We don't know how they work, we just know they work."
The theory of general relativity explains how Gravity works, that was Newtons biggest problem, but Eisntein solved it, with that he discovered the Big Bang, the cosmological constant, and many other amazing discoveries.
Basic theist logic: If we don't know something, it must be a god.
shagoosty 2 months ago
there is more proof that aleins exist, than god. :)
offthemeds1 5 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
you clearly do not understand science.
2naruto1 6 months ago
Certainly not proof of god.
You're just saying we don't know how the universe formed therefore 'god did it'. Pathetic.
To prove god exists you also need to explain What god is, How god created everything and Which god you're talking about. LOL
mtbee9 8 months ago
wait seconds after the big bang there were protons and neutrons .
you make me lol.
weswes666 9 months ago
This is your proof? Weak.
GR0ND 9 months ago
You say the atoms had to be "Fine tuned" because of the strength of the force that binds them, yet if your god defined physics, would any "tuning" be needed as you beleive he chooses how strong or weak anything is?
Symos 10 months ago
If you believe you have "Proof" of Gods existance then you have lost your faith
AnonaThetan 11 months ago
Denial much?
lumpyroc 1 year ago
what sparked the big bang??
dude101iscool 1 year ago
If the universe had to be created by a god, who created god.. If the universe has always been, there was no need for god. If something can come from nothing, there is no need for god.
You either fall into zeno's paradox/infinite continuum, or you fall into the category of god wasn't even needed to make us.
Enjoy the choice idc what you choose.
Microtardz 1 year ago
well, the only thing i can say is...
nope
ampeyro 1 year ago
"Nothing gave rise to Something".. the battle cry of the Dim, Unimaginative and Uneducated.
SofaKingLoaded 1 year ago
Comment removed
MemeMachine1 7 months ago
@SofaKingLoaded
"God gave rise to everything yet nothing gave rise to God"
The cry of the desperate, religious, and uneducated
MemeMachine1 7 months ago
"Nothing gave rise to something"
Argument for god, yet, is never applied to god.
Matter could not have came from nothing, but god could have come from nothing.
I did not see one convincing argument in this entire video, just the same theist broken record of arguments.
Not one thing discovered in science suggests a great designer. Only subjective human opinions based on the from ignorance fallacy exist. "I cant imagine how this perfet blah blah was created, therefor, god exists."
Poor logic.
theodorichen 1 year ago
This is good stuff. I wish all theists focused more on stuff like this and less on the bible. This is a great way for you theists to learn science. What you do with the info is up to you, but at least you won't look like fools when you start fighting science. This is great. thumbs up.
Elififa 1 year ago
Santa Claus is to children as God is to adults. Every child discovers that Santa is fake, and that he is folklore told by their parents. God is the same, although the "parents" are tradition passed through history.
2Lazy4aRealName 1 year ago
None of what is shown in this video proves the existence of a god, a creator. It is possible that there are an infinite amount of multiverses with random laws of physics. There has not to be a creator or fine tuner, when all possibilities are there, one of them is the correct one. We only know of the one we can inhabit.
Quintinohthree 1 year ago
Scientists make conclusions based on observation and evidence. Universal constants are observed, but nothing suggests that they were made that way. Therefore, we can only conclude that they exist. The same goes for the universe, which has evidence of existing but no evidence of ever not existing. Science makes conclusions based on evidence. Without evidence, there is no conclusion. Religion assumes a deity justifies the unexplained. It is always more valid to not know than to assume.
CynicLogic 1 year ago
Wow... what an amazing video...
dex1391 1 year ago
you know, really.. free will or not, God is supposed to be ALL POWERFUL. unless god is such a conceited asshole he'd rather sit on his throne scowling at us and expecting us to blindly believe (when HE gave us our curiosity and intellect!!), he could SO easily make himself ACTUALLY apparent to us. these facts prove nothing, and saying that "god did it" tells us nothing about how things work. science has slowly explained many things assumed to be supernatural, and it will keep doing so
myskyren 1 year ago
Actually, most people choose not to believe in god because of the credible evidence provided by the beauty of the world around us, not cruelty. The Christian religion discards all other species as mistakes, and mankind as a divine creation. That makes God guilty of one of the seven Christian sins: Pride. And just by supporting your own religion and trying to convert others, you are guilty of it too. I'm glad I'M not retarded. Oops, meant to say Christian. Close enough either way.
idkwhattonamemyself 1 year ago
The very fact theres Lust,fear,love,patience,man,hope,careing, proofs that god exsist this is the short life question is heaven or hell?theres also someone called Satan/Lucifer/Devil/Beast he wispers thoughts into are mind anything that dosent uphold uprise or isint of god is not from god and you must cast it out!
TheTruecompassion 1 year ago
@TheTruecompassion If Satan can control minds, how do you know that you're contacting Gd. God is always preforming miracles, Right? That means Satan would be free 24/7. That's more than enough time to brainwash all of you mindless retards into following him. Most wars are religious wars, after all. See this paragraph, by the way? I'm not sure you can read it, and I am deeply sorry. You see, I'm using what most call "correct grammar". But that's for smart people, you wouldn't understand it.
idkwhattonamemyself 1 year ago
@TheTruecompassion
So god is good and the devil is bad, right? Who told you that? God? That's a biased view isn't it?
If I had a hotel and I'd publish a review of it, would you believe it? Same goes for me writing a negative review of another hotel in that same situation.
You can't believe god's written word. It's not objective.
This all assuming god exists and the bible contains the word of god. I don't assume.
Quintinohthree 1 year ago
Ps you dont see God in this video....the reason is...how can you believe in something that you are not a part of. it go right back to what God said many will come but few will be chosen.....you may be one of the few. if you are grown and have seen no visions or Godly dreams I would be worry as to why.
MARGARETPF 1 year ago
@MARGARETPF I believe in bunnies, but I am not part of them.
TheMemeReplicator 1 year ago
I want to see they faces when all is said and done. I seen the new earth coming from heaven,I dont know why God shown me this,I'm happy he did. I even seen Ron my son who is with christ now. I praise God and my childerns know of God. This may sound bad but if the truth must be told many will come but few will be chosen.....
MARGARETPF 1 year ago
@MARGARETPF God didnt show you this, a very nicely coded search engine built into youtube showed you this(After you searched it).
Flyindingo 1 year ago
Peoples that dont see God in anything....dont worry me..I cried once when God said many will come but few will be chosen, Just reading some of the commets I understand what God was saying, he can not have evil enter heaven. When I read evil comments about God the first thing come to mind is these are the peoples he speak of.
MARGARETPF 1 year ago
Why can't we appreciate beauty as it is and each other as we are instead of appreciating on the basis that all are created by God >.<
SNAKSerenity 1 year ago
this video is more like a science lecture, it offers no proof of the santa in the sky ..............................god is gay abort christ
01stupidstuff 1 year ago
I dont see any proof of god in this video.
topelite666 1 year ago
Exodus 32:26Proof of god:
Moses, and he said to them, " The LORD God of Israel commands you tothrough the camp, killing your relatives, your friends, and your neighbors." The men of the Levi tribe followed his orders, and that day they killed about three thousand men. Moses said to them, " You obeyed the LORD and did what was right, and so you will serve as his priests for the people of Israel. It was hard for you to kill your own sons and brothers, but the LORD has blessed you
lizazoon 1 year ago
Argument from evil is a terrible argument, perhaps the worst of all atheist arguments, I could never use it.
Jussimania 1 year ago
What an absolute load of bollocks!
7quidstudio 1 year ago 3
My fellow atheists, you are not alone.
bookwormsrcool 1 year ago
@bookwormsrcool My fellow sibling in Christ, you also won't be alone in Hell if you do not Dedicate your life to Christ. God Bless You
dude101iscool 1 year ago
@dude101iscool Maybe I will. I might need it. After all, I'm a homosexual transvestite in an interracial marriage. Have a nice day. :)
bookwormsrcool 1 year ago
@bookwormsrcool There is nothing our Savior, it was his will for you to be like this... He still loves you... :D
dude101iscool 1 year ago
@bookwormsrcool God Bless you :) There is nothing he cannot forgive, He Loves You and a Whole lot of other Christians do too :)
dude101iscool 1 year ago
and how are stars controlled by gravity....last time i checked there wasn't gravity in space.... :/
kkatyy10196 1 year ago
@kkatyy10196 incorrect, gravitational forces are dependant on size of objects and distance from them. all matter exerts gravity, just not necessarily enough to overcome forces of friction and such. hence why we know that the moon (1/6 earth mass roughly) exerts 1/6 gravitational force
1quikcivic 1 year ago
@kkatyy10196
All matter in the universe is attracted to all other matter in the universe with a force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the distance between them. So gravitational forces on people are insignificant in space but stars are attracted to each other and our sun orbits the center of the galaxy due to its gravity.
There is gravity everywhere, space included.
WatanukiProductions 1 year ago
@kkatyy10196 haha no gravity in space lol good one
desambio 1 year ago
i don't see how this proves anything.... all you're saying is that god is real cuz good stuff happens...not everything has a creator. Rocks are pieces of minerals that were fused together through heat or pressure. I don't think that a magical man in the sky is banging rocks together or lighting them on fire....
kkatyy10196 1 year ago
@AntiVaccine Seriously, go do some research and stop being a sheep to pseudo/non-scientific claims. Go learn something.
zackersquackers 1 year ago
This video proves nothing about the existence of a god, in fact it is completely illogical. Filling scientific gaps of knowledge, with something like god is an intellectual cop-out. Just because we don't understand something at all, or yet, doesn't make any conjecture of any kind (most especially a supernatural entity), valid to any degree. You need to start being more honest, and stop perpetuating the ignorance of intellectual cop-outs. It's counter productive.
zackersquackers 1 year ago
Here is what I think: While this video points out some interesting things, it doesn't prove or disprove the existance of God. I'm an Agnostic Theist, meaning that I do not claim to know or not know the existance of a creator, I'm open minded to the possibility that something out there exists, I just don't believe any of the religions we have right now, there are so many Gods, so how can you point to just one and say its the one? Simple answer, you can't, and we never will have that ability.
MrCrowley3845 2 years ago
What is wrong with the world. It never seizes to shock me how biased athiests are. Would you really believe in an error then accept you have been proven wrong? You have waited 4 science 2 prove ur theories correct and now that its proved it false u will not stop!! I thought scientists were meant 2 be objective. The human race is sad. May you 1day accept the glory of God
sKoTyo 2 years ago
@sKoTyo I am completely confused about what point you're trying to make here. What's been proved wrong? What theories aren't "correct". What are you trying to imply?
zackersquackers 1 year ago
If you have to give up your brain for a ticket to an invented heaven, who is going to do the thinking??
nogodnowhere 2 years ago
So many atheists, so egotistical and ungrateful for everything God has given them.
Read the dying words of famous atheists and you will see that they realised too late what a terrible mistake they'd made in denying God.
Indigohue 2 years ago
"Read the dying words of famous atheists and you will see that they realised too late what a terrible mistake they'd made in denying God"
If what you mean by that is that people on their death-bed desperately create god or gods on the spot for their own comfort, I agree entirely. The "no atheists in foxholes" argument is one of the best arguments against the existence of god or gods. It proves what the mind will do for its own comfort. But the universe doesn't have to accomodate your comfort.
HolyFungus 2 years ago
Obviously you didn't read the "last words of dying atheists", otherwise you'd realise that far from creating gods for their own comfort, they came to realise the Truth that had eluded them all their lives. They saw flames, a black abyss and sense of being removed from love and light for eternity, a dark frightening chasm from which they could never escape. Hardly comforting !
Indigohue 2 years ago
@Indigohue You haven't the foggiest idea of what ego is if you're a faith based believer in any religion. You have no understanding of humility if you adhere to the arrogance of theism... that is, the claims of absolute truth. You need to buy a new dictionary.
zackersquackers 1 year ago
@zackersquackers
Arrogance of theism! Ha, and your reply doesn't smack of arrogance in the least does it?
Indigohue 1 year ago
@Indigohue I see you haven't gotten your new dictionary, yet. There are a few online you could use for free. Give it a shot.
zackersquackers 1 year ago
@zackersquackers
I would imagine that acknowledging there is a Creator is a far more humble stance than that postured by an atheist who clearly thinks nothing greater than himself exists!
Indigohue 1 year ago
@Indigohue I really don't know how to simplify this anymore, so that you may understand. A humble acknowledgement of something, requires that something to be either tangible or evident. A "creator", thus far, doesn't fall into that criteria. And, atheism is simply a disbelief in god. How is it a display of humility to proclaim something exists without one iota of proof? Am I being humble when I say I believe and trust in the invisible magic lizard that lives under my bed?!
zackersquackers 1 year ago
@Indigohue ; What a shallow bigoted comment. Dying people are like a drowning dog I once observed, trying to hang on to a passing straw.
lizazoon 1 year ago
@lizazoon
How is it shallow or bigoted? Just because you have no belief in hell or heaven doesn't mean they don't exist. It might be wishful thinking on your part that they don't because you desperately want to believe there is no accountablility for our sins.
Matthew 7 13-14 Enter through the narrow gate, for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction.For the gate is small & the way narrow that leads to life and few there be that find it"
Indigohue 1 year ago
Terrorists think they're doing good things in the eye of God. If God has been here forever, that would've required an ifnite source of energy...that's impossible.
Crusher8000 2 years ago
Science+God= Pseudo-science
Tinfoiloid 2 years ago
It is deluded and egotistical to think that this supposed "evidence" points to a particular personal "god" or being. Science and religion combined is not fact. Saying that all the suffering in the world takes place because humans aren't following "god's" laws should never have even been brought up. This video was not about proving anything but only to provoke an empathic emotional response by being bombarded with slow music and negative imagery. Share facts and not your religious belief.
kappapi560 2 years ago
Those last 7 words: "God challanges us to prove all things" - Except for "God" evidently!
CraigMetalHead 2 years ago
i love religious people they make me laugh more than anyone else :]
arakaramian 2 years ago
@arakaramian Do you really think God would ridicule himself as to let himself become a formula on a peice of paper? If just seeing a burning bush turned Moses' hair white, imagine what seeing God would do to people. Also, everyone thinks that christians are violent. Atheists don't realize that how inferior human beings are to everything in the universe, even ourselves. We haven't even left our solar system. We haven't found a cure for aids or cancer, despite killing millions of animals. wow
tohidefromourways 2 years ago
You know, I feel bad for blind people. Because they can't see the beautiful animals and nature itself. On the other hand I envi them, because they can't see what mess we are making of it. Mostly in the name of GOD!. Well, at least im not the only reasonable person in the world to see religion is full of shit!.
CaIadai 2 years ago
That doesn't prove anything except that we are really fucking lucky to be alive right now LOL
bonafidediablo 2 years ago
as dumb as everything that has to do with that fairytale religion...
75nummer41 2 years ago
if anyone can show me just one example in the history of the world of a single
Spiritual or religious person who has been able to prove either logically or empirically the existence of a higher power that has any consciousness or interest in the human race or ability to punish or reward humans for there moral choices or that there is any reason - other than fear - to believe in any version of an afterlife
Ill give you my piano, one of my legs, and my wife
go ed Tim
oweyniners 2 years ago
lol Tim Minchin, nice
waldoistwisted 2 years ago
So because we don't know the answer to many big questions, there has to be a biblical God? Good to know. Finally, an answer!
It's a lazy way of saying: I don't care to find out how everything works, and why I am suffering my simple life.
ZebNemeth 2 years ago
Gravity is not a constant lol. Its a force.
herrerik 2 years ago
More wishfull thinking . And these are questions we ask anyway -- religion is the design of the elites rulers to help maintain order in chaos.
DrPork4freedom 2 years ago
So when you're unable to explain where the universe came from, you have to resort to a designer ('God' if you will)? Where did this God come from? Did he create himself? Did another God create him? The introduction of a designer solves nothing, as you would then have to explain where the designer came from. Oh and don't give me that crap of ''he was always there'', that's a very easy way out so you don't have to think about it.
Flameseeker006 2 years ago
@Flameseeker006 the brain is made of matter, and it takes energy to make that matter function. I belieive in the jumble of mess that was the beginning, there was a combination of mass and energy that had sentience, and over time gained power, as God of the bible claimed to be in everything in existence long before we discovered that everything has energy in its being. As long as Multiverse is here, no one can say what does and does not exist. Possibly even all fictional characters exist.
tohidefromourways 2 years ago
nothing disproves god, there is only proof that some things didnt go the way the "holy books" say, this does not mean there is no place for god.
but then again there is 0 proof for a god, no those holy books are not proof, because they have been written by men.
munsking 2 years ago
Whatever props you got for not falling for the old Einstein was a theist canard were destroyed when you juxtaposed African poverty with a gay pride parade. Especially when considering the role Churches play in perpetuating the AIDS epidemic. Then you blow your credibility completely with the fine tuning argument. You know what the universe is really well designed for? Making black holes and dying of heat death. That's not proof of God.
AHPMB 2 years ago
@AHPMB Actually, Michio Kaku believes the Universe will die of a lack of heat (or freeze) more than anything. Also, as long as the multiverse exists, all things literally are possible.
tohidefromourways 2 years ago
I'd be an idiot NOT to believe in God.
erule92 2 years ago
Atheistic evolutionist doesn't mean anything; the two have nothing in common. I would still be an atheist without evolution. The dumb ass shit in the bible is what does it for most atheists.
beeeefcurtains 2 years ago
bayayayayayayayaya! What created god -.-
hahayoulaughed 2 years ago
i knew there was a reason why i disliked cuntry music.... lol
eddiequest4 2 years ago
Here's a question for theists to ponder. If there are no humans, will God still exist? Would there be anyone with a high enough thinking capacity to grasp the concept of God? Which points to God just being a concept in the mind of humans. AKA delusions and hallucinations.
superaragon 2 years ago 3
God is still God if you want to believe him or not, people have no proof of God not existing, they just make up some many things so they do have to believe in God and do want ever they want without any regret.
SaintJohn86 2 years ago
God's existence doesn't depend on our capacity to grasp of the concept of God.
blaq7427 2 years ago
"Proof That God Exist" nuff said hahahahaha!
IWriteLents 2 years ago
(3) If they acknowledge that life and a universe could not exist if these laws were even slightly different, then they acknowledge that God is not all-powerful and therefor that the common theistic concept of God is impossible.
Finally, if it's the case that there are pre-existing laws and rationality to the universe then do we still need God in order to account for that rationality?
Zdrazy 2 years ago 2
On the other hand, if a universe and life can exist according to different laws, then there's nothing particularly special or unique about the laws we currently have.
Incidentally, all life exists according to these laws so it makes perfect sense that if they were changed the life that exists now would not be possible.
The theist is obliged to acknowledge the possibility of different fundamental laws or they must accept that God is not omnipotent.
Zdrazy 2 years ago 2
(1) I find that the 'fine-tuning' argument actually contradicts religion.
If it's the case that an all-powerful God exists then that God would be able to create a universe and life that could exist according to whatever laws it wanted.
If that is not possible then there must be pre-existing laws and rationality, even within this crude 'material' universe, that prevent it, irrespective of God's omnipotence.
Zdrazy 2 years ago 2
WOw this was the biggest bullshit ever LMAO there is proven that your jesus was never real Jesus is in your imagination people who are scared to not know what happins when you die
Brutis140 2 years ago
The complexity of the strong force? I never knew the attraction between nucleons was so complex it requires a designer. Hydrogen-1 doesn't require the strong force, only deuterium, and heavier nuclei do.
Darwin wasn't an atheist, and his "hypothesis" is as provable as genesis.
KiwiTibb 2 years ago
Flying Spaghetti Monster is watching you.
callmebigpapa 2 years ago
If science could prove the existence of any diety all scientists would believe in said diety, it is as simple as that. If there were irrefuteable empirical evidence of the existence of a diety there would be no reason not to believe in that diety. The existence of the physical constants is not proof of a diety, it is proof of the physical constants existing. You are wrong about the seconds after the big bang as well. The universe was entirely energy for millions of years before particles formed.
biomanwin 2 years ago 2
"nature pictures and emotional music is always the best way to provide an argument which has no other ground"
- some dude on the internet
Dvalinor 2 years ago
the god of the bible fine tuned everything?
so mental retardation, psychological disorders, addiction are the results of his/her fine tuning?
Dejjal 2 years ago
don't try to "answer" questions with "God did it." look for the real answer. The origin of life may not be an easy subject to tackle, but those who are actually working on it unlock the type of knowledge that has increased the quality and quantity of life.
gfunkusarelius 2 years ago 2
Thanks for the video
katpiering123 2 years ago
gayest thing ever....so are organized religions...fucktards
hunjigger 2 years ago
lol
888eman 2 years ago
It saddens me that people take videos like this seriously. It's also ironic to include videos of 9/11, an act at least partially motivated by the belief in a god that is just as plausible as the one promoted in this video. GROW UP PEOPLE. Think for yourselves and stop believing fairy tales.
888eman 2 years ago
888eman. Your the one believing in the fairytale. Or rather, believing what others tell you.
katpiering123 2 years ago
if god tortures everyone who disobeys him, how could he be more evil?
elevadon 2 years ago
Comment removed
killergift1130 2 years ago
if he was forgiving whats the point of hell?
BlackSniperBullets 2 years ago
hell is for satan and his fallen angels
under the rules we can end up there to as GOD is fair to satan as well
valu777 2 years ago
WANT to KNOW HIM THEN ASK JESUS INTO YOUR LIFE. When you mean it FROM YOUR HEART, HE WILL COME. REMEMBER ASK AND MEAN IT.
clayton7g 2 years ago
lol christfag.
elevadon 2 years ago
This video doesn't prove shit. This sucked
SilverAqua 2 years ago
4:05
"in order to explain the origin of the universe, scientists would have you believe "nothing" gave rise to "something". "
So then where did god come from? :D
"he always has been and always will be?" but then aren't u making the EXACT same statement?
Chazerbaijann 2 years ago
nope... didnt see god anywhere there... maybe u shuld circle him in red so that we can see him.... what's that? he cannot be seen? oh... well im sure he does a lot for humanity on a daily basis in order for us to back him up so much... u know? like cure deadly diseases and save starving children in africa. Right?
Trying to prove god with today's science is as hard as trying to power the large hadron collider with nothing but a generator made out of toothpicks and semen... so there you have it
salo69 2 years ago 2
Proving that God exist is effortless. Science is in fact the easiest way of doing so because science is the discovery, documentation, and adherance to countless laws that cannot be broken. Inside a random universe there would be no laws.
Dalagastia 2 years ago
Science is, by definition, always proved wrong. Because unlike religion is is based on the scientific method of observation, formulation of hypothesis, testing of such hypothesis and then creation of a theory which can be taken as a fact or then tested against and prooved incorrect. By you saying that in a random universe there would be no laws and using this in order to prove god's existence is ridiculous because the opposite holds true as well, specially since nothing thus far has shown him
salo69 2 years ago
Actually the Laws of Thermodynamics are the RESULT of randomness. They are derived from Statistical Physics which takes as its one assumption that everything is random and equally likely.
Laws in science are models to explain observed phenomena: the 'best fit' to the data. When new data comes in and the model doesn't fit any more, a new model, a new 'Law' is needed.
So laws CAN be broken, in a sense, but they are always still applicable in the limited range they were valid for.
lamkdndjfek 2 years ago 2
This vid sure is serious, and it shows that you have to believe to be saved by god. what is the point of BELIEVING if there is evidence? If there is evidence then it would be call knowing, but god wants you to believe in him
firecross1 2 years ago
Ouch.
This video can't be serious.
1973MaseratiBora 2 years ago
Just by reading the comments I saved myself 5min of viewing bs. Thanks commentators.
Vegasgodless 2 years ago
All this video has done is inform us of all the latest scientific data ( well apart from Dawkins alleged suggestion of the multiverse which comes from the latest attempts by physics to explain quantum theory). koft has it spot on, if the churches had had their way, you would not be able to even offer this kind of evidence.
Pants attempt, sad twat.
Munro1Man 2 years ago
So.
If god dosent exist...
What happens when you die?
firecross1 2 years ago
Try and imagine what it was like before you were born........
Munro1Man 2 years ago 2
lol... you cant. But what do you believe?
firecross1 2 years ago
I believe you die. As in cease to exist. Not go somewhere else, not live again, DIE. Dead !!!
Munro1Man 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Mark Twain said (and I paraphrase) something like: he saw no reason to be afraid of dying because when he died, he would just return back to a place where he had already been for millions of years.
which is, I speculate, one of the MANY reasons why faith and religion are so persistent: not only do they provide an answer to just such a question you've asked, but they also find a way for man to become immortal. We're afraid of death and the unknown, so we've created a way to circumvent them
EvenThroughFire 2 years ago
yes, but then what was the point of living???
firecross1 2 years ago
Comment removed
EvenThroughFire 2 years ago
Sorry, wasnt it religion that, not 300 years ago, was denying atoms and electro magnetism. People were imprisoned, tortured and burnt at the stake for believing what you now claim as proof of God. Maybe in 300 years time Richard Dawkins will be the second coming and the movie Dogma will be the Holy Scripture. WAKE UP!!!
kotfw 2 years ago 5
So why can your god be created from nothing but the universe itself (without a god) not be created from nothing? Where did your 'god' come from.
I agree with boxcutter7. Thats a perfect example of me.
Freedomopportunity 2 years ago
God = made-up bullshit
TheFlST 2 years ago
If I only knew what "substainment" meant (used twice in this lame presentation) then maybe, I too, could believe in this fantasy of a supernatural being.
Richard Dawkins at least has intellectual honesty on his side when asked, 'how did we get here"? by replying that he does not know, whereas religion declares truths for which there is no backing.
izoomtoo 3 years ago
creationists cannot believe 'nothing' gave rise to the universe. Have they thought of how god came to be, then.
nmw14bt 3 years ago
To them God is eternal
dooVoob 2 years ago
Theres nothing evil about not believing in "god."
4eyedCyclopes 3 years ago
and he almost died again and survived, me and my cousin and my wife who was pregnant at the time got in a car wreck, was hit head on by a drunk driver and we werent wearing our seatbelts in a firebird...it was 145mph impact and I was the one who called the police to come and save my wife and baby...once again they still are with me...during the collision i felt GOD take me and hold me and i didnt even get a scratch...If you want data..proof then I could send you all of it in the mail to prove it
gloverage 3 years ago
well, my mom died and came back in front of me...now she has a pacemaker, my grandpa almost died of a heart failer...once again pacemaker...he is still alive....my dad got stuck on a train track when his car died and miraculously the car was knocked in neutral and rolled off the track as he covered his head screaming for life and the train did not hit him....my brother was a herion addict and recovered after an overdose and then 2 months later an I beam from a house being built fell on his head
gloverage 3 years ago
flagged for misleading text (video shows no proof, like god for example - guess he didn't show up for the photoshoot)
Boxcutter7 3 years ago
let me ask you this......if GOD showed his face, then how would you have any faith?....faith is believing in GOD when you cant see him...
gloverage 3 years ago
Why have faith? Its pretty much the same as believing in Santa Claus.
Boxcutter7 3 years ago 2
and if thats not enough...I have a video of me taping lighting...and a bolt came down and struck me and the batteries in my camera were fried...i have that video if you wish to see...but only if you promise to not disbelieve......I swear I could prove it all....another thing is i was going through a hard time when I started filming lightning and just before the lightning I asked GOD to strike some sense into me...and it was so....not once but I got jolted not once but twice
gloverage 3 years ago
lol nice try
dooVoob 2 years ago
and if I did not really believe that there was no GOD then I would not have just told you most of the horrible memories that haunt me......I care about you as do I care for GOD...
gloverage 3 years ago
You are one of those caring, considerate Christians as I was when I believed (didn't have a whole lot of faith, was raised Christian). I also didn't know the things I know now about the bible. Maybe there is some sort of divine force (or energy that I know exists in everyone and everything) that can heal and save lives, but the bible is just a book with ancient explanations of nature, sun-symbolism, mistranslations, and many examples of plagiarism from other religions.
Boxcutter7 3 years ago 2
nice debating with you I will talk at you later, thanx for listening.....peace....glo
gloverage 3 years ago
I was starting to think this was sarcastic and actually an atheistic video since what's shown in the video does not support the bible or other religions. if anything maybe there is a god that created everything, but things written in the bible and other myths thousands of years ago are certainly preposterous like universe created in 6 days for example.
Boxcutter7 3 years ago
prove that it was not created in 6 days!...I cant disprove or prove anything...the only thing i know is that i know nothing at all...no matter what anyone thinks or tries to prove...you will never be able to prove that there was not a god...not you....but im just saying....
gloverage 3 years ago
"prove that it was not created in 6 days!"
are you kidding me??? you don't even have to prove it. the bible says that on the first day god created the light. On the second day god created an expanse between the waters to separate waters from waters and called that expanse "sky" (one good example of how the bible & ancient peoples thought the earth was the center of everything). Day 3: god created land and vegetation. To be continued...
Boxcutter7 3 years ago
Day 4: created sun, moon, and stars; "and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth (just the earth? lol, another example). Day 5: created the creatures of the sky and of the water. Day 6: created creatures of the land and man "in our image". Without believing in a plagiarized, sun-symbolic, mistranslated book, do you really think that those things would be possible in 6 days??
Boxcutter7 3 years ago
i would stop trying man......just because it says to give light on the earth......does not mean just the earth.....if god wanted it to say just the earth then he would of had it written that way....your thinking is off a little...think outside the box....that is true faith....
gloverage 3 years ago
Comment removed
gloverage 3 years ago
is it possible to create a human from nothing at all...treated as the earth was life then the worlds creation is to advanced for you to understand if you do not understand....
gloverage 3 years ago
come up with some way for yourself to believe in the way you want to believe....GOD loves to hear people talk and try to prove that he did or didnt do something. as long as the eye is on GOD he will be happy.....I pray for you....not wish to fight but to rejoice.....time is for people to love one another..we are in hard times....we need to stay strong in faith and spread the word of GOD....gloverage
gloverage 3 years ago
where is this god and why won't he show his supposed love? then of course there's the mistranslations, plagiarism, and sun-symbolism of the bible. Nature, then men created religions like Summerian, Egyptian, Mithran, etc; then Levites from Egypt created the Talmud, then rest of Old Testament (both inspired from Egyptian mythology), then Calpurnius Piso family [of Rome] wrote at least 4 books of New Testament (4 gospels).
Boxcutter7 3 years ago
just because you dont have any faith does not mean that i wont have any faith or someone else wont have any faith....anyways once again god loves to hear people talk about him, no matter if its bad or good so keep going...LOL
gloverage 3 years ago
you can believe or not believe in GOD thats your decision, but when you see jesus when you pass....that will be enough to change your mind!
gloverage 3 years ago
I won't see Jesus when I die (if I did I would call him Yahushua - Hebrew; Jesus is Greek translation and he would prolly prefer the Hebrew if he existed). Again what makes you think he exists? What gives you faith? Please satisfy my curiosity and don't give me the run-around.
Boxcutter7 3 years ago
I get it I've seen the error of my "sinful" ways of being an Atheist.... oh wait I just had a rational thought and well this BS just lost all its significance. Though I'm glad you find solace in your "Messiah"... Horace right? no no wait um Mithras? crap. I don't think that's right... Krishna! no? hummm can't be Zoroaster, right? well whoever it is may they... do that pretty blessing thing or whatever.
touchingdaylite 3 years ago
God exists. His name is Apollo.
moonymoomoo 3 years ago
Lets make this very clear, science cannot disprove god, ever. Science can disprove the stories in the bible, but it cannot prove OR disprove god. Because god is everything that we cannot directly observe or interact with and is unmeasureable. This video proves absolutly nothing. We don't know what causes electromagnetic forces or how the first universe was created but that doesn't mean we will never know. It also doesn't mean that god must be interacting with our universe.
jimmy202500 3 years ago
"doesn't mean we will never know"
It does mean we can never know, Science requires the scientific method, and scientific method just can't do that, it's far from the reaches of Science. The idea of God or no God is a philosophical one, and the Atheists to me are philosophically dead.
Also, on Science disproving the stories in the Bible, I'm not sure you know what my religion is to say such an ignorant remark.
" it's absurd to doubt that a man may be an ardent Theist and an evolutionist"
ogirv101 3 years ago
No what I'm saying is that we don't know what causes electromagnetic forces. In the sameway 400 years ago we didn't know how the sun burnt, why the sky was blue or why objects fall towards the ground. 400 years ago people might have said, "god makes the sun burn/the sky blue/objects fall" but now we know better. Just because we don't know how the forces between atoms or the forces of gravity are transfered or created, doesn't mean "god makes the atoms hold together
jimmy202500 3 years ago
"Just because we don't know how the forces between atoms or the forces of gravity are transfered or created, doesn't mean "god makes the atoms hold together"
Electromagnetism is one of the four fundamental forces, it is enforced by bosons. These bosons are called Photons (Y), we Know how they work, we know when they broke away, but Science can't ever prove how they got there, and if we do prove it (impossible), we will end up with something like the cosmological constant, very unlikely.
ogirv101 3 years ago
We don't know how they work, we just know they work. How is gravity transfered from a planet to a satalite with nothing touching, or even any air between? we simply know it does. That's what i'm trying to say.
jimmy202500 3 years ago
Also to your first comment, I said you cannot prove or disprove god then you say you can't prove or disprove god with science what's your point? On bible stories I do beleive the bible features people getting revived, magic forces parting seas and people genrally perfroming things that we never see now cameras have been invented.these things are clearly in the realm of reality we should have no problem repeating them. Lastly yes god is the only possible philosophy so we are philosophically dead
jimmy202500 3 years ago
"On bible stories I do beleive the bible features people getting revived, magic forces parting seas and people genrally perfroming things that we never see now cameras have been invented."
That's only your belief, for example the crossing of the red sea has a scientific explanation behind it, and it has been proven to be possible, and archeology supports the idea, but the thing is there is a natural cause, but a very very very improbable one, enough to be called a "miracle", don't believe idc
ogirv101 3 years ago
"We don't know how they work, we just know they work."
The theory of general relativity explains how Gravity works, that was Newtons biggest problem, but Eisntein solved it, with that he discovered the Big Bang, the cosmological constant, and many other amazing discoveries.
ogirv101 3 years ago