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[MrSean7572]

Very supportive Thanks

[metazoam]

I just realised that this is what is happening with me. The application as proxy to the mind- the space in between where I fall into every so often when I "take a break" in the mind. No longer. The process and I are one! ...and yes it is sheer will. Thanks Matti.

[eruittam]

@metazoam

cool

[gresiu7]

SUperB

[rubenmoutinho]

Thanks matti! Now I see what you share

[TheWhims]

'Force' is always used against something. If there is an 'against' there is separation from Oneness/all that is. And when there is separation frustration is sure to follow.

Watch out for an ego in disguise... the ego loves telling stories that 'make sense'.

[eruittam]

@TheWhims

this video is me sharing my experience of my process of becoming Self Honest

more clarity comes as I become more Specifically Self Honest through consistently evaluating my thoughts / words / experiences / actions / behavior every moment of every day

I suggest investigating Self Honesty to be able to transcend ideas and actually self realize through self investigation

[TheWhims]

@eruittam :) thanks for sharing and reminding me of the journey.

[MartijndeGraaf1001]

yea, strange to experience slipping back in to the mind as relaxation, same for me. In fact it is suppressing the breath which is a discomfort. I even perceivedit as "safe", "secure". Or: entertaining.

[esornitsuj]

cool beans!

[tobiaslovejoy]

In fact, at this point, I have still difficulties to apply self-forgiveness. I didn't realize that I was the process and came sometimes into explainations created by the mind. Not really living, being in the presence of myself and expecting a specific point to change, not going through the whole process.

Thanks to you !

vanity

[TrulleX]

i enjoy myself as sf, as breath, as honesty, cause it's the only thing there is.

expecpt the mind, but the mind always gives itself away at sometime.

[333ree]

keep it going, like. read Erchart Tolle also power of now also Depak Chopra it aint

[saffrongirl]

Hi, Yes that makes sense.

thanks again,

saffrongirl

[Beardedyoungman]

Yes but how does the mind become so unforgiving? That it has to be forced. Why do we have these different phases in life? kids don't have it. Elder people don't have time to over analyze or they go nuts:) I have too much to say on this right now, I'll just leave it at that for now.

Good thoughts, you are the application! your hands indicate when you're loading info from other parts of brain, the mind part hehe not making fun it's neat.

[Energyium]

what is the definition of selfforgiveness?

[headmase]

I think it's about recognising a bad thought and isolating it in a way.

Imagine you get angry with someone.

Take a deep breath, and allow yourself to cut the anger.

Anger helps you participate in the mind system (at least from what I understood.)

You can forgive yourself for being angry, and the question isn't about who started the mess, it's shit to admit I know but when you participate in beef with someone, both are responsable.

You can, not, allow yourself to shout.

sorta.

peace.

[eruittam]

to see a point within me which I have accepted and allowed myself to define myself according to from a self dishonest starting point - such as fearing to speak because I fear the reactions of others - and applying self forgiveness to release myself from that which I have defined me as, and therefore limited myself to. so I direct me in the moment, instead of allowing fear to direct me in the moment. I forgive myself that I have accepted and allowed myself to fear the reactions of others

[eruittam]

and the more specific I am, the more effective I am in releasing myself from all that I have defined myself as. for example, I would look at specifically why I fear the reactions of others, which reactions do I fear, what do I fear to lose? and apply self forgiveness on each point. It is literally like seeing the code of a program and deleting the code with self forgiveness

[tullepie]

geeeeeeeez, yes, Matti - I am playing around WITH the tools - who am I fooling...

[eneffe]

thank you, sir

[lolita68s]

Thanks Matti...This helps