Vocal Overtones + Brass Embouchure #1, Part 1

[funderbone]

Great resource, Sam..

[sabutin]

@funderbone This is actually old news. I have taken it much further. Gotta set up the camera and do another. Among a thousand other tasks.

Any day now...

Aaaaany day now...

[funderbone]

@sabutin ...read ya loud and clear.

[PeteMcGuinness]

Problem lessening!...firming up corners and like you say Sam, the buzz to mouthpiece to horn connection. Fedchock helped me with this too. You two are both excellent teachers of the subject. Feeling a LOT better these days! Thanks for the tips.

-Pete

[sabutin]

@PeteMcGuinness

Glad to help, Pete.

Sam

[sabutin]

aasavickas...

Yup. It is said time heals all wounds? It heals all sounds as well. Bet on it.

[bad99bear]

You heard the sound of overtone singing in your brain - you "sang in your brain" - very intensely as you sang the overtones just before placing your lips on the mouthpiece. Your lips were in perfect position because the brain transferred a very powerful stimulus to the embouchure muscles - the stimulus was pure sound in your imagination. You heard this sound so clearly that you forgot about the problems of playing a brass instrument. Arnold Jacobs - "strangeness permits change."

[sabutin]

That's one explanation among many. Let's take those three words: "Strangeness permits change." It seems so obvious. But...strangeness also permits failure. So does change sometimes. Change can produce strangeness as well. Permission often changes strangeness to familiarity. And sometimes not so much. Sometimes it's better not to try to pin things like this w/words. Either you do it or you don't. Have you done this? I hope so. Later... S.

[aasavickas]

@sabutin Having had a lessonwith you and read your book, I happened to notice something others might have missed. I clearly heard you tapping your foot before you played. Without externalizing TIME and really feeling it, any complicated act like playing trombone is very hard to do consistently or well. I know how important time is, however the folks watching this video might have missed that little bit. Just thought I'd point out an integral part of music that is unfortunately often overlooked.

[yunmi41]

No entiendo el ingles, alguien me lo podria traducir

[yunmi41]

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[Huskyowner2007]

I just bought a french horn and a trumpet. Does both instruments have the same embouchure? I want to play well in both instrument. Do you teach?

[sabutin]

Teach? Yes, I do. Where are you located?

"Same embouchure?" No. Same embouchure principles? Yes.

[Huskyowner2007]

@sabutin I'm located in Orange County, California.

[MrJackanthony]

@sabutin Is it okay to play more than one brass instrument? (or at least attempt to)? I play the trumpet of a hisgh school band and Im etting pretty good. I also like the trombone but will I be able to??? Thanks for this your funny in a nice way.

[PeteMcGuinness]

Sam,

This is all so great and so clearly explained. hey, do you know of any bone players who have had embouchure focal-dystonia? Can it be brought on by overuse? I'm very curious about the subject. Thanks.

[sabutin]

Hello Pete...I know of none personally. A problem that I had 40+ years ago might have today been diagnosed as focal dystonia if i was dumb enough to let the focal dystonia people get anywhere near my chops. I went to Carmine Caruso instead. It was merely a timing/placement issue.

(More in the next comment)

[sabutin]

Pete...somehow my followup comment never made it to this site. Sorry.

Overuse? Maybe.

"Wrong" use? Over OR under...yup.

Sam

[dfrankow]

Sam - I think it's great that you are posting this sort of info in video form. In my opinion the video is much easier to understand than the forum posts. The biggest stumbling block for me to trying it is truly understanding how to hear the right formants, especially for the high (trumpet) range I want to work on. I likely can't even sing the fundamental of the notes I want. Best, Dan.