it's weird to watch a bunch of an almost naked guys in a training ground with fully clothes women...why those girl didn't get distracted...around a group of underwear men..that really weird.
Wow, at 4.30 they are using the Opening Stance and Circle step utilized in Wing Chun Kung Fu. I knew that Wing Chun originated in the Honan Temple of China, but i never realized how it had bees influenced by Kalaripayattu.
Our martial art facts are processed into data which is now kung fu. It is not all disrespect for a great human who travelled from our place to your country and preached medicine and martial art skills.
@nayak2kr ..What facts are you talking about, the only facts are that Kalari has no similarities with KungFu, just to prove to you, watch the most pathetic kick known to man. Watch the video "Fighting without weapons, Kalarippayattu, Martial art, Kerala", at 1:56 of the video you'll see that pathetic kick. No other martial arts would teach or execute that retarded pathetic kick. That's a fact & that's proof.
@nayak2kr ...The Bodhi crap is a BIG FAT LIE. There's no proof that Bodhi even knew martial arts, let alone KungFu. This Kalari crap is not even remotely close to KungFu, so if you think it was modified, then it should at least have some similarities in execution & style, it doesn't.
@gbb357 I'm intrigued that you are arguing that Bodhidharma did not bring kung fu to the Shaolin Temple. In all the various stories that I've heard or read, he was dissatisfied with the monks' inability to meditate for long periods or time, and he taught them exercises to improve their ability to meditate. What he taught them varies, whether it be actual kung fu or simply stretching exercises that evolved into kung fu, but the vehemence with which you state your point amazes me.
im pretty sure those guys kissed 0.30 seconds. this is fun to watch but their is no way this would work on the street unless you were fighting Helen Keller.
Dear god people, there are MANY different forms of martial arts that started ages and ages ago. people were fighting before they knew about other races and cultures so it's a little dumb to fight about which was first and who stole what. every form has it's positives and negatives and everything promotes fitness of the mind and body. now chill and watch
We are all caught up in technicalities. Bodhidharma may not have invented kung fu but his teachings have profoundly influenced it to ts present day, through his chan techniques. Shaolin kung fu today is known for its strong yet flexible artists who are supposedly spiritually detached. Well that part comes from buddhism which Bodhidharma and others from India helped propagate.
actually there are sources that state that the oldest shaolin arts predates the introduction of Bodhidharma coming to shaolin not to mention a story which the manuscripts had many errors...India Sources believe that Bodhidharma gave birth to shaolin arts but how is that so when these monks been doing there form of defense thousands of years before sense 206 bce. This matters in the name of time to be accurate instead of oral mouth. Do the research.
@smp3161 ....This CRAP has nothing to do with KungFu or any other martial arts. The Bodhi LIE, and that's all it is because there is no factual credible proof that he knew martial arts, let alone taught KungFu, is just a BIG FAT LIE. He probably taught Buddhism & exercises, but that's it. Just watch the video "Fighting without weapons, Kalarippayattu, Martial art, Kerala", & watch the kick on 1:56. That pathetic kick would never ever be taught in KungFu or any other martial arts. That's a fact!
@gbb357 well said...these dumbshit indians are spreading false facts around....anyone wants the biggest proof...just compare the arts....can this gay "kalari" shit ever match up to shaolinquan...???
@smp3161 ..If this was anywhere remotely close to KungFu, it would have at least some similarities. But the fact is that Kalaripayatu is uncoordinated, sloppy, & has no technique. Compare these videos & you'll see the clear huge differences in style, execution, & form. But i'm sure you'll deny it.
@gbb357 dude look it is not close like now in kung fu but this martial art is something that Bodhidharma have learned shaolin monks in chine and after time to time martial arts in chine were getting better and better ;) Peace
@AjdinLee ...Sorry to break it to you, but there's no proof that Bodhi knew any martial arts let alone KungFu. There are no similarities whatsover especially when it comes to kicks. If your logic is that KungFu evolved & Kalari did not, then not only are you delusional, but you're also in denial. One of the best example in regards to kick is the video "Fighting without weapons, Kalarippayattu, Martial art, Kerala". Watch it at 1:56 of the video & you'll see the pathetic retarded kick.
@AjdinLee ..That kick i'm referring to from the video "Fighting without weapons, Kalarippayattu, Martial art, Kerala" at 1:56 of the video, will never be taught in any martial arts, especially not in KungFu. I mean seriously, why would you ever execute that kick & why would you ever teach that kick. It's quite hilarious & seriously pathetic. Peace to you as well my friend.
@AjdinLee ...That is a good question & the main one. To be fair, i'm not completely ruling out the possibility that Bodhi taught KungFu or that KungFu came from India. Anything is possible. But at this point & at this moment, there are no credible factual proof to back up this Bodhi claim. That's a fact. So to spread it around as if it's a fact, in my opinion, is wrong & disrespectful to the martial arts & kungfu.
wiki shaolin monestery - patron saint - at the bottom it talks about the indian monk, and what martial arts historians think of him bringing kung fu to China
wiki Bodhidharma - Bodhidharma at Shaolin
ALL tell the truth. delusional dreamers got their bubble burst. poor poor indians. lies wont help make up for pathetic history. the only known landmark (taj mahal) is foreign muslim built. epic fail.
In fact, the idea of the Zen patriarch physically teaching monks martial arts did not come about until the publishing of a highly popular satirical novel entitled The Travels of Lao Can (老殘遊記) in a magazine between 1904 and 1907. The author apparently confused the qigong attributed to Bodhidharma with martial arts.
There is no way Bodhidharma could have taught the monks martial arts or even written the two manuals if Chinese records do not attest to his presence at Shaolin during his own lifetime. As far as martial arts are concerned, researchers have analyzed documents going back 250 years, and there are some that mention both Bodhidharma and Shaolin martial arts, but never connect the two. [14]
Analysis of outside sources show Bodhidharma had no historical connection to the monastery or the development of its martial arts during his life time. According to Prof. Meir Shahar: In the sixth-century Record of Buddhist Monasteries in Louyang (Luoyang qielan ji) (ca. 547), [Bodhidharma]* is said to have visited the city, but no allusion is made to the nearby Mt. Song[, where Shaolin is located].
Li Jing’s preface is dated 628, but the Indian holy man Paramiti (fl. 705), who is said to have translated the Yijin Jing from Sanskrit into Chinese years before the general received it, wasn’t born until much later.
A battle formation said to have been utilized by Li Jing in the first preface comes from Ming Dynasty fiction. [9]
Qing Scholars of the same time as the preface denounced the author of the preface as "an ignorant village master" because there are MANY historical errors in the preface, including getting who was emperor at the time WRONG. that is like saying Bush is still president.
google this
"A Venerated Forgery: The Daoist Origins of Shaolin’s Famous Yijin Jing Manual By Jim R. McClanahan"
There is ONE source for this bodhi myth. 1800s PREFACE of the yi jin jing has the story of him staring at a rock wall for years then disappearing into thin air leaving behind 2 books. 1 being the yi jin jing, which doesnt teach any fighting. it only teaches stretches and breathing exercises. even the MYTH doesnt say bodhi taught shaolin monks anything.
historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) have discredited the myth and the preface altogether.
now if u think of it looking back at this buddidarhma came from india so maybe he was a student of this so this may came out before shoalin if u think of it
this for chineese who think kungfu was created in china . many people even indians dont know that the shaolin kungfu was modified from kalaripattu. bodhidharma the indian buddhist monk saw the weakness of many young monks when he traveeled to china. so he introduced the physical form of art to keep them fit which became shaolin kungfu.he was a pandhya prince of tamil nadu .the concept of chi was also given by him.
@karatye Bodhidharma was first mentioned in Yi Jin Jing which was written in the 17th century. It mentions the wrong emperor, further the Yi Jin Jing teaches Qi Gong and not Kung Fu. Various wu shu styles like shuai jiao or hong quan already pop up in the "Spring & Autumn Analects". At the same time Shaolin is older than Yi Jin Jing. therefore, we can conclude that Kung Fu is older than Shaolin, which is older than Qi Gong, resulting in the Bodhidharma myth to be false.
@GaolisVideoLog yep, shaolin is older than yijin jing.but it was then a shaolin monastry,back then.Bodhidharma went there to only see that monks there had weak constitution and hence equipped them with yi jin jing to help strengthen their muscles.since then monks there developed this into a martial art and from then on shaolin became synonymous with shaolin-the martial art..
but what i dont understand are the last three lines in ur post...i just wanna know more,cud u xplain in detail,thanks...
@aswathrce What I was trying to say is: Yijinjing teaches qi gong & has its origin in the 17th century AD. However, martial arts in China as well as the Shaolin martial art are centuries older than that. The Bodhidharma myth is just a myth. Historical, sinological research highly doubts the myth. This doesn't make it unimportant. King Arthur & Robin Hood are still important even though they are just fiction.
@GaolisVideoLog Bodhidharma is not a myth! he is a prince from southern india and if u wiki him you will find many citations to his life including sinological sources. No where does it contain any word containing 'myth' in his page, while pages for robin hood and king arthur do so comparison between them is highly ill advised. In china he is known as Da Mo and in japan he is know as Daruma; they even have daruma dolls.
@karatye It's the same with religion. Do you think that the ancient Germanic/Norse gods or the Greek gods really existed? For a long time people also thought that Robin Hood was real, but it turns out he's just a story. The same goes for the sword Excalibur.
Especially Chinese martial arts often have a myth on how they were created. 90% of the time however it's just a fairy tale, but still important to the martial arts society as such. Knowing this doesn't take anything from Kalaripayattu away.
@karatye Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
This is freaking impressive (and that's from someone who's spent 30 years in a very vicious fighting art). These guys are very, very impressive! I'd love to have a chance to chat with some of them
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
Qing Scholars of the same time as the preface denounced the author of the preface as "an ignorant village master" because there are MANY historical errors in the preface, including getting who was emperor at the time WRONG. that is like saying Bush is still president.
google this
"A Venerated Forgery: The Daoist Origins of Shaolin’s Famous Yijin Jing Manual By Jim R. McClanahan"
There is ONE source for this bodhi myth. 1800s PREFACE of the yi jin jing has the story of him staring at a rock wall for years then disappearing into thin air leaving behind 2 books. 1 being the yi jin jing, which doesnt teach any fighting. it only teaches stretches and breathing exercises. even the MYTH doesnt say bodhi taught shaolin monks anything.
historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) have discredited the myth and the preface altogether.
This martial art is from Kerala, which is in South India. It's only practiced in the south. Kerala has been trading with the Chinese for more than 3,000 years, so I'm sure this martial arts knowledge was passed to them and then they just refined the techniques. It's like Brazilian jiu-jitsu from Japanese jiu-jitsu. I highly doubt Bodhidharma brought kalaripayattu to the Chinese, because he was North Indian and had little knowledge about South Indian martial arts.
@JJMATHIAS23 : Bodhidharma was a Tamil prince from southern India's Pallava Empire. Scholars have concluded his place of birth to be Kanchipuram in Tamil Nadu.( Source- Wikipedia )
People need to shut the fuck up and stop hating on indians. This is a great ancient martial art. If You dont fucking like it, why the fuck are You here watching the video? Bunch of assholes
i train in goju ryu karate and this looks good to me. i wud like to train myself in this ancient art of my own country. such kind of extreme flexibility, agility and body control can come in handy in various situations.
Nowadays ,people have rejected these useless traditional 'martial arts' such as kung-fu,karate etc.. in favour of modern combat sciences like Krav Maga,MMA,MCMAP etc.So why revive this useless art in the first place? kalari promoters use emotional appeals and cheap gimmicks towards indians to market their nonsense,making indians feel that they ought to learn it
@MrXiphos7 The reason Indian "ethic" martial arts suck is because the British purged off any Indians who could actually fight with REAL martial arts back when they took over.....that's why Indian "culture" (or lack thereof) is based on singing and dancing stupidly to entertain the whites. Indians as a whole have been so culturally bastardized that Indians lack leadership qualities, have no courage whatsoever, and no nationalistic pride at all....
@siddhu318 Are you mad because you know that your culture is nothing but a joke created by the white man? How does it feel to be Britain's version of "Uncle Tom"?
the language u r speaking , do u know its origins , search google and u'll be surprised(to save ur efforts i'll just tell u, it originated from ancient indian language called "sanskrit")
i wont say anything bad about ur country caz every country has its good and bad things. it makes me very happy to see u full of hate towards my country , it justs shows how immature and insecure u are of us .PEACE(atleast from my side)
@siddhu318 I actually feel sorry for the ancient Aryans, Dravidarians, and other warrior clans of Bharat....they're probably rolling over in their graves seeing how badly their worthless shitty descendents fucked up running their country....the people who beat Alexander the Great were first destroyed by the Mughals and then the British finished the job by killing off any Indian with any real backbone or competency...leaving a country of worthless shits in the process....
@siant666 So you're saying English is an offset of Sanskrit? You really are stupid... English is a branch of Germanic languages, but I guess it has its roots in the Indo-European languages but at that time there wasn't even a Sanskrit language so your argument is mute....
@siant666 sanskrit is the mother of almost all european languages moron.but u wont accept it , ur fake pride dosent let that happen. killing innocent people(native indians)and taking over their land and calling urself american dosent make u great. do u even have a martial art of ur own?? no. thats y u angry
@siant666 hahaha u r such a moron, "hindu" is a religion "hindi" is a language. it dosent matter what is the name of the link , search any link and u will find the same thing i said ,i just gave u one to save ur effort but u cant even copy paste that , such a shame, u r too ashamed of not having a martial art of ur own so u try commenting idiotically on others. such a loser. illiterate pig.
@siant666 { h ttp : // bharatjohnson . sulekha . com /blog/post/2011/06/why-sanskrit-is-the-mother-of-all-indo-european-languages . h tm } also there are many links that u can go search on google, but u r not doing so caz u live in ur imaginary world and are too afraid to face the truth, also ur not answering to my questions shows ur ignorance towards the facts(do u even have a martial art of ur own) .
@MrXiphos7 Many people still trains all forms of martial arts, karate, judo, kallari etc. Krav Maga has usefull moves from all of them, in MMA u can use any of them basicly and MCMAP are very judo based. All martial arts have 5000 year old indian kallaripayattu origins. Only ones that differ is Capoeira and some forms in Africa
As if India hasn't embarassed itself enough in the global stage,here comes along yet another piece of ethnic bullshit-kalaripayyatu. A so called 'fighting' style in which two malnourished looking gay men dunked in gallons of oil and wearing gay loincloths jump up and down like gay monkeys. It is a well known (and proven)fact that kalaripayyatu is useless in a fight
@MrXiphos7 proven fact , by whom ?? malnoursished gay men? hahaha send ur hot dog and pie eaters out here , usa has the most obese population in the world and u talk of fighting.
@siddhu318 u fuckin slumdog...we r bigger and stronger than u skinny brown bastards..even our women are taller and stronger than you....so just fuck off,cow worshipper
Friends...We all belong to one universe. So why the debate, which style came before which, or which is better than what? Yes, Chinese and Indian styles had different origins. (I have trained in Wushu, Taekwondo, Tai Chi and I am a yoga practitioner too) So what? Let each influence the others. All are great. Bruce Lee said "The highest technique is to have no technique". So, if I am an Indian, I will have absolutely no problem touching the feet of my Chinese Master. Pranams to all.
@MegaAndiee 武林只可以在格斗将相比之下，但是不会太极与将相比之下。您刚才表明了，您迄今为止就不明白，迄今为止不知道。仍然，您的话有的对。You cannot compare Wushu to Taiji, you can only compare Wushu to Gedou. You have just shown that you don't yet know or understand. Nevertheless there's some truth in your words.
@MegaAndiee Not to sound like a mule, but the debate comes from name. A name is a spell and are often times very bewitching and powerful. With the names come meaning, and with that comes knowledge which is painful. Pain shows you sides, prejudice is born. As long as their are different techniques there will always be a struggle for balance or more commonly domination. But as grim as that sounds, isn't that part of what the fight is about? Just a thought, not trying ti be rude. -Ixstar
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
1. Kung Fu predates shaolin: Spring and Autumn Annals of Wu and Yue, the Bibliographies in the Book of the Han Dynasty and the Records of the Grand Historian all document martial arts that predate Shaolin. A good example is Shuai Jiao, grappling martial art.
2. Shaolin kung fu predates bodhi: The 2 men who became the VERY FIRST Shaolin monks were ALREADY experts in kung fu. Shaolin kung fu came from them. ("History of Chinese Martial arts: Jin Dynasty to the Period of Disunity") Also, they found weapons in the monestaries of Chang'an. ("Martial arts Myths of Shaolin Monastery, Part I: The Giant with the Flaming Staff") Suggesting the monks already practied martial arts.
3. Creation of 5 animal kung fu styles is documented, NO BODHI: Jueyuan was a master of the 18 Luohan Hands. the original 18 techniques of Shaolin. He expand to 72, but wanted to do more. He travel to Gansu Province to the city of Lanzhou and met Li Sou. He was a master of Hong Quan. they work with Bai YuFeng and expand the 72 techniques to around 170. Those 170 techniques were than divided into the 5 animal forms.
4. The ONE place that credits bodhi is discredited: ONLY the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yijin Jing mentions Bodhi with kung fu at all. Historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) discredit this preface because it is FULL of INACCURACIES. Even getting the Emperor Reigns wrong.
5. The painting in Shaolin does NOT depict bodhi teaching shaolin monks. It actually only shows many shades of monks, all wearing Chinese clothes, practicing kung fu. Leave it to dreamers to think anyone who is a shade darker than light is Indian. Even if they were, no indication whatsoever about bodhi. PLUS the painting was done a THOUSAND years after bodhi’s time. It CANNOT be used as an indication of the past.
6. Sinews Changing Classic: Scholars disregard this preface because it has many anachronistic mistakes and the fact that popular fictional characters from Chinese literature, including the "Bushy Bearded Hero" (虬髯客), are listed as lineage masters. In fact, Ling Tinkang (1757-1809), a SCHOLAR of the QING Dynasty, described the author (Li Jing) as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
7. So in conclusion, there was kung fu before shaolin. There was shaolin kung fu before bodhi. The creation of the animal styles is documented, no bodhi. The one source that credits bodhi is faulty and the author of that one preface was viewed as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
First, Why only shaolin styles started in shaolin temple!
long before there was the temple shaolin existed martial arts in China!
existed in the past more than 500 different styles of Chinese martial arts. and even with prohibition the centuries of many emperors and even the Communist government, we still have over 100 styles of Chinese martial arts!
I and many other scholars who disagree with Chinese martial arts kung fu has begun in India.
First, Why only shaolin styles started in shaolin temple!
long before there was the temple shaolin existed martial arts in China!
existed in the past more than 500 different styles of Chinese martial arts. and even with prohibition the centuries of many emperors and even the Communist government, we still have over 100 styles of Chinese martial arts!
Hey mate ramsen i can tell you that you need to do more research ok because shaoling temple martial art never originated from the south indian guy named bodhidharma.It was originated from kirata mongoloied race of himalaya or nepal and traveled to the india and china.Buddha himself was mongoloied man from nepal not india.Aryans were not inventor of martial art it was kirata mongoloied race of himalaya.
there is no doubt that kungfu is chinesse original, budha lived in 5th cent BC while china al ready in turmoil and constant wars in 1700s BC and more, within this era they developed they own style of martial arts
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
7. So in conclusion, there was kung fu before shaolin. There was shaolin kung fu before bodhi. The creation of the animal styles is documented, no bodhi. The one source that credits bodhi is faulty and the author of that one preface was viewed as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
6. Sinews Changing Classic: Scholars disregard this preface because it has many anachronistic mistakes and the fact that popular fictional characters from Chinese literature, including the "Bushy Bearded Hero" (虬髯客), are listed as lineage masters. In fact, Ling Tinkang (1757-1809), a SCHOLAR of the QING Dynasty, described the author (Li Jing) as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
5. The painting in Shaolin does NOT depict bodhi teaching shaolin monks. It actually only shows many shades of monks, all wearing Chinese clothes, practicing kung fu. Leave it to dreamers to think anyone who is a shade darker than light is Indian. Even if they were, no indication whatsoever about bodhi. PLUS the painting was done a THOUSAND years after bodhi’s time. It CANNOT be used as an indication of the past.
4. The ONE place that credits bodhi is discredited: ONLY the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yijin Jing mentions Bodhi with kung fu at all. Historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) discredit this preface because it is FULL of INACCURACIES. Even getting the Emperor Reigns wrong.
3. Creation of 5 animal kung fu styles is documented, NO BODHI: Jueyuan was a master of the 18 Luohan Hands. the original 18 techniques of Shaolin. He expand to 72, but wanted to do more. He travel to Gansu Province to the city of Lanzhou and met Li Sou. He was a master of Hong Quan. they work with Bai YuFeng and expand the 72 techniques to around 170. Those 170 techniques were than divided into the 5 animal forms.
2. Shaolin kung fu predates bodhi: The 2 men who became the VERY FIRST Shaolin monks were ALREADY experts in kung fu. Shaolin kung fu came from them. ("History of Chinese Martial arts: Jin Dynasty to the Period of Disunity") Also, they found weapons in the monestaries of Chang'an. ("Martial arts Myths of Shaolin Monastery, Part I: The Giant with the Flaming Staff") Suggesting the monks already practied martial arts.
1. Kung Fu predates shaolin: Spring and Autumn Annals of Wu and Yue, the Bibliographies in the Book of the Han Dynasty and the Records of the Grand Historian all document martial arts that predate Shaolin. A good example is Shuai Jiao, grappling martial art.
kalaripayattu is close to the original martial arts and its the truth but i saw the comments criticizing this to all those members who critisize this Fuck u.If u dont know then don't comment u guys r just jealous and say all rubbish things.
Lal, what the hell, people saying they believe they are fruits in this vid, I don't understand. The video shows great agility and grace. This martial art looks awesome. I would like to practice it!
@Cl0taire the only thing i think that is gay about this martial art is the oiling thing. i know its how the body thing and bla bla bla, but, by onother guys hands?! BEING OILED?! BY A MAN??! GROSS
O termo Kalaripayattu pode ser traduzido como “praticando as artes do campo de batalha” no dialeto Malayalam, falado no estado indiano de Kerala. Em tempos remotos, disputas entre os nobres indianos também surgiram com o aparecimento de um torneio de Kalaripayattu.
Esta arte ancestral é chamada de “a mãe de todas as artes marciais” – até mesmo a chinesa Shaolin chuan do famoso templo Shaolin tem sua origem no Bodhi Dharma, um monge budista indiano que era especialista em Kalaripayattu.
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
@rmwua And....I'm not seeing any solid evidence coming from your end at all.....Good job. You just denied what I said, of which I gave specifics; and you didn't really do anything.
@rmwua I did. As well as anyone except for you. Anyone who has a straight head, and didn't get their information from hear-say or themselves. Like you.
@eequalsmcvajeen12 as long as I know you're not some one who came from that time by a timemachine or something stupid like that OMG , if you say it was not, it doesn't mean it was not we'll never know it so don't do as if you know it I did a lot of true research I think you don't have a straight head right? idiot boy and so what, what does it actually matter who was the first asia was the first one, that's something we're sure about I'm already proud that my root is from asia!
@eequalsmcvajeen12 centuries??the first WRITTEN record of kalari is in the sanskrit vedas dating over 5250 yrs ago.In there it is referenced to a time beyond modern comprehension of even well before that attributed to a Lord Kartikeya when there wasnt even a race differential in humans.
@07dineshb I believe that what you are mistaking for fact is folklore-- There actually is a big difference in the real world...You do know that Kartikeya is also a fictional character from Indian mythology? God; you're so retarded. A time beyond modern comprehension? Are you that imbecilic?
0:28 ugly pretension
twentius777 1 week ago
it's weird to watch a bunch of an almost naked guys in a training ground with fully clothes women...why those girl didn't get distracted...around a group of underwear men..that really weird.
tonybah88 1 week ago
what ever it is.. kalari and kung fu both are stupid art, eat PIG.. cant even defeat muay thai..
pundek58 2 weeks ago
wing chun kung fu is the most stupid chinese martial ever.. you know what is chee bye meaning?? i hate all this martial art
pundek58 2 weeks ago
@pundek58 The only thing that is stupid is your spelling.
sinnisterish 2 weeks ago
Wow, at 4.30 they are using the Opening Stance and Circle step utilized in Wing Chun Kung Fu. I knew that Wing Chun originated in the Honan Temple of China, but i never realized how it had bees influenced by Kalaripayattu.
ghostlyredfox 2 weeks ago
Our martial art facts are processed into data which is now kung fu. It is not all disrespect for a great human who travelled from our place to your country and preached medicine and martial art skills.
nayak2kr 3 weeks ago
@nayak2kr ..What facts are you talking about, the only facts are that Kalari has no similarities with KungFu, just to prove to you, watch the most pathetic kick known to man. Watch the video "Fighting without weapons, Kalarippayattu, Martial art, Kerala", at 1:56 of the video you'll see that pathetic kick. No other martial arts would teach or execute that retarded pathetic kick. That's a fact & that's proof.
gbb357 2 weeks ago
Yes it was Bodhidharma who taught martial art to shaolin monks. From that your people modified it and name changed it to kung fu.
nayak2kr 3 weeks ago
@nayak2kr ...The Bodhi crap is a BIG FAT LIE. There's no proof that Bodhi even knew martial arts, let alone KungFu. This Kalari crap is not even remotely close to KungFu, so if you think it was modified, then it should at least have some similarities in execution & style, it doesn't.
gbb357 2 weeks ago
@gbb357 I'm intrigued that you are arguing that Bodhidharma did not bring kung fu to the Shaolin Temple. In all the various stories that I've heard or read, he was dissatisfied with the monks' inability to meditate for long periods or time, and he taught them exercises to improve their ability to meditate. What he taught them varies, whether it be actual kung fu or simply stretching exercises that evolved into kung fu, but the vehemence with which you state your point amazes me.
littlerunningwolf 4 days ago
man this shit just got gay.
MrClinton19 1 month ago
im pretty sure those guys kissed 0.30 seconds. this is fun to watch but their is no way this would work on the street unless you were fighting Helen Keller.
MrClinton19 1 month ago
Dear god people, there are MANY different forms of martial arts that started ages and ages ago. people were fighting before they knew about other races and cultures so it's a little dumb to fight about which was first and who stole what. every form has it's positives and negatives and everything promotes fitness of the mind and body. now chill and watch
KofykatKashyap 1 month ago
@KofykatKashyap plus not to mention that technically we all "steal" techniques from our instructors. we all just copycat what we see and learn.
MrClinton19 1 month ago
This the art that started all
Don't talk about something with out knowing anything
Kugathas 1 month ago
how much do u these guys stretch? they are a bit thin and im pretty sure its a lot of lean muscle n are these monks?
hung139 1 month ago
kalapari is mama pundek art... indian pundek
pundek12ful 1 month ago
damn i think that is where they went in one of these shows Fight Quest or the other similar show i forgot the name..
Frequent2001 2 months ago
It looks like same as the Sikh martial arts Gatka but the Hindus might not know how to use Chakram
SinghMankaran 2 months ago
@SinghMankaran
Chakram is a pretty old weapon mentioned in Indian history, Hindus did use it, but was extensively used by Sikhs though.
U5011453 3 weeks ago
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OK but never seen a Hindu using a chakram mainly sikhs use it
SinghMankaran 3 weeks ago
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Yeah well they never show all the weapons which were used, like Sikhs used Katar and Bagh Nakh as well, but they never show that in Gatka.
U5011453 3 weeks ago
You cannot compare martial arts, only fighters
bravechicken1 3 months ago 4
We are all caught up in technicalities. Bodhidharma may not have invented kung fu but his teachings have profoundly influenced it to ts present day, through his chan techniques. Shaolin kung fu today is known for its strong yet flexible artists who are supposedly spiritually detached. Well that part comes from buddhism which Bodhidharma and others from India helped propagate.
He greatly evolved it to its present day form.
Jocjabes 3 months ago
actually there are sources that state that the oldest shaolin arts predates the introduction of Bodhidharma coming to shaolin not to mention a story which the manuscripts had many errors...India Sources believe that Bodhidharma gave birth to shaolin arts but how is that so when these monks been doing there form of defense thousands of years before sense 206 bce. This matters in the name of time to be accurate instead of oral mouth. Do the research.
SolidCobra43 3 months ago
this is the original martial arts, was thought in china which lead to the birth of chinese martial arts
smp3161 3 months ago
@smp3161 ....This CRAP has nothing to do with KungFu or any other martial arts. The Bodhi LIE, and that's all it is because there is no factual credible proof that he knew martial arts, let alone taught KungFu, is just a BIG FAT LIE. He probably taught Buddhism & exercises, but that's it. Just watch the video "Fighting without weapons, Kalarippayattu, Martial art, Kerala", & watch the kick on 1:56. That pathetic kick would never ever be taught in KungFu or any other martial arts. That's a fact!
gbb357 2 months ago
@gbb357 well said...these dumbshit indians are spreading false facts around....anyone wants the biggest proof...just compare the arts....can this gay "kalari" shit ever match up to shaolinquan...???
MrXiphos7 3 weeks ago
@smp3161 ..If this was anywhere remotely close to KungFu, it would have at least some similarities. But the fact is that Kalaripayatu is uncoordinated, sloppy, & has no technique. Compare these videos & you'll see the clear huge differences in style, execution, & form. But i'm sure you'll deny it.
Shao Zhao Ming Kung Fu Demo
taekwondo VS wushu
Wushu & Kung-Fu
Wushu-Fighting
Wushu Kung Fu
Amazing Kung Fu Kid
Amazing Choreographed Fight / 10th China Games
Extreme Kungfu Fight
gbb357 2 months ago
@gbb357 dude look it is not close like now in kung fu but this martial art is something that Bodhidharma have learned shaolin monks in chine and after time to time martial arts in chine were getting better and better ;) Peace
AjdinLee 3 weeks ago
@AjdinLee ...Sorry to break it to you, but there's no proof that Bodhi knew any martial arts let alone KungFu. There are no similarities whatsover especially when it comes to kicks. If your logic is that KungFu evolved & Kalari did not, then not only are you delusional, but you're also in denial. One of the best example in regards to kick is the video "Fighting without weapons, Kalarippayattu, Martial art, Kerala". Watch it at 1:56 of the video & you'll see the pathetic retarded kick.
gbb357 3 weeks ago
@AjdinLee ..That kick i'm referring to from the video "Fighting without weapons, Kalarippayattu, Martial art, Kerala" at 1:56 of the video, will never be taught in any martial arts, especially not in KungFu. I mean seriously, why would you ever execute that kick & why would you ever teach that kick. It's quite hilarious & seriously pathetic. Peace to you as well my friend.
gbb357 3 weeks ago
@gbb357 you are probably right but then is the question how did shaolin monks learned to fight if Bodhidharma didn't learned them? Peace ;)
AjdinLee 3 weeks ago
@AjdinLee ...That is a good question & the main one. To be fair, i'm not completely ruling out the possibility that Bodhi taught KungFu or that KungFu came from India. Anything is possible. But at this point & at this moment, there are no credible factual proof to back up this Bodhi claim. That's a fact. So to spread it around as if it's a fact, in my opinion, is wrong & disrespectful to the martial arts & kungfu.
gbb357 3 weeks ago
@gbb357 nicely said dude and yeah there is no proof that he taught shaolin monks martial arts but as you said anything is possible ;) Peace friend
AjdinLee 3 weeks ago
basic wiki
wiki shaolin kung fu - History
wiki shaolin monestery - patron saint - at the bottom it talks about the indian monk, and what martial arts historians think of him bringing kung fu to China
wiki Bodhidharma - Bodhidharma at Shaolin
ALL tell the truth. delusional dreamers got their bubble burst. poor poor indians. lies wont help make up for pathetic history. the only known landmark (taj mahal) is foreign muslim built. epic fail.
angryaznman 3 months ago
In fact, the idea of the Zen patriarch physically teaching monks martial arts did not come about until the publishing of a highly popular satirical novel entitled The Travels of Lao Can (老殘遊記) in a magazine between 1904 and 1907. The author apparently confused the qigong attributed to Bodhidharma with martial arts.
angryaznman 3 months ago
There is no way Bodhidharma could have taught the monks martial arts or even written the two manuals if Chinese records do not attest to his presence at Shaolin during his own lifetime. As far as martial arts are concerned, researchers have analyzed documents going back 250 years, and there are some that mention both Bodhidharma and Shaolin martial arts, but never connect the two. [14]
angryaznman 3 months ago
Analysis of outside sources show Bodhidharma had no historical connection to the monastery or the development of its martial arts during his life time. According to Prof. Meir Shahar: In the sixth-century Record of Buddhist Monasteries in Louyang (Luoyang qielan ji) (ca. 547), [Bodhidharma]* is said to have visited the city, but no allusion is made to the nearby Mt. Song[, where Shaolin is located].
angryaznman 3 months ago
Li Jing’s preface is dated 628, but the Indian holy man Paramiti (fl. 705), who is said to have translated the Yijin Jing from Sanskrit into Chinese years before the general received it, wasn’t born until much later.
A battle formation said to have been utilized by Li Jing in the first preface comes from Ming Dynasty fiction. [9]
angryaznman 3 months ago
Qing Scholars of the same time as the preface denounced the author of the preface as "an ignorant village master" because there are MANY historical errors in the preface, including getting who was emperor at the time WRONG. that is like saying Bush is still president.
google this
"A Venerated Forgery: The Daoist Origins of Shaolin’s Famous Yijin Jing Manual By Jim R. McClanahan"
angryaznman 3 months ago
There is ONE source for this bodhi myth. 1800s PREFACE of the yi jin jing has the story of him staring at a rock wall for years then disappearing into thin air leaving behind 2 books. 1 being the yi jin jing, which doesnt teach any fighting. it only teaches stretches and breathing exercises. even the MYTH doesnt say bodhi taught shaolin monks anything.
historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) have discredited the myth and the preface altogether.
btw there isnt 1 indian source.
angryaznman 3 months ago
Indian martial arts came before east Asian martial arts. A good portion of as culture derived from south Asia(India)
aznien9 3 months ago
now if u think of it looking back at this buddidarhma came from india so maybe he was a student of this so this may came out before shoalin if u think of it
Mabimanta 3 months ago
think im bluffing? search in google
karatye 4 months ago
this for chineese who think kungfu was created in china . many people even indians dont know that the shaolin kungfu was modified from kalaripattu. bodhidharma the indian buddhist monk saw the weakness of many young monks when he traveeled to china. so he introduced the physical form of art to keep them fit which became shaolin kungfu.he was a pandhya prince of tamil nadu .the concept of chi was also given by him.
karatye 4 months ago
@karatye Bodhidharma was first mentioned in Yi Jin Jing which was written in the 17th century. It mentions the wrong emperor, further the Yi Jin Jing teaches Qi Gong and not Kung Fu. Various wu shu styles like shuai jiao or hong quan already pop up in the "Spring & Autumn Analects". At the same time Shaolin is older than Yi Jin Jing. therefore, we can conclude that Kung Fu is older than Shaolin, which is older than Qi Gong, resulting in the Bodhidharma myth to be false.
GaolisVideoLog 3 months ago
@GaolisVideoLog yep, shaolin is older than yijin jing.but it was then a shaolin monastry,back then.Bodhidharma went there to only see that monks there had weak constitution and hence equipped them with yi jin jing to help strengthen their muscles.since then monks there developed this into a martial art and from then on shaolin became synonymous with shaolin-the martial art..
but what i dont understand are the last three lines in ur post...i just wanna know more,cud u xplain in detail,thanks...
aswathrce 3 months ago
@aswathrce What I was trying to say is: Yijinjing teaches qi gong & has its origin in the 17th century AD. However, martial arts in China as well as the Shaolin martial art are centuries older than that. The Bodhidharma myth is just a myth. Historical, sinological research highly doubts the myth. This doesn't make it unimportant. King Arthur & Robin Hood are still important even though they are just fiction.
GaolisVideoLog 3 months ago
@GaolisVideoLog Bodhidharma is not a myth! he is a prince from southern india and if u wiki him you will find many citations to his life including sinological sources. No where does it contain any word containing 'myth' in his page, while pages for robin hood and king arthur do so comparison between them is highly ill advised. In china he is known as Da Mo and in japan he is know as Daruma; they even have daruma dolls.
Jocjabes 3 months ago 8
u think he is fake .THEN WHY IS HE worishped in shaolin temple even today?
karatye 3 months ago
@karatye It's the same with religion. Do you think that the ancient Germanic/Norse gods or the Greek gods really existed? For a long time people also thought that Robin Hood was real, but it turns out he's just a story. The same goes for the sword Excalibur.
Especially Chinese martial arts often have a myth on how they were created. 90% of the time however it's just a fairy tale, but still important to the martial arts society as such. Knowing this doesn't take anything from Kalaripayattu away.
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@karatye Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
angryaznman 3 months ago
This is freaking impressive (and that's from someone who's spent 30 years in a very vicious fighting art). These guys are very, very impressive! I'd love to have a chance to chat with some of them
ieguy3 4 months ago
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
angryaznman 4 months ago
Kalari TRUTH:
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
angryaznman 4 months ago
Qing Scholars of the same time as the preface denounced the author of the preface as "an ignorant village master" because there are MANY historical errors in the preface, including getting who was emperor at the time WRONG. that is like saying Bush is still president.
google this
"A Venerated Forgery: The Daoist Origins of Shaolin’s Famous Yijin Jing Manual By Jim R. McClanahan"
For detailed examples.
angryaznman 4 months ago
There is ONE source for this bodhi myth. 1800s PREFACE of the yi jin jing has the story of him staring at a rock wall for years then disappearing into thin air leaving behind 2 books. 1 being the yi jin jing, which doesnt teach any fighting. it only teaches stretches and breathing exercises. even the MYTH doesnt say bodhi taught shaolin monks anything.
historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) have discredited the myth and the preface altogether.
angryaznman 4 months ago
2:58 obviously the men wear flesh-colored jock-straps and the women are in full shirts and long-pants.
EGarrett01 4 months ago
no hating...But i think certain martial arts are simply superior to compared to others...
hereisthankappan 5 months ago
This martial art is from Kerala, which is in South India. It's only practiced in the south. Kerala has been trading with the Chinese for more than 3,000 years, so I'm sure this martial arts knowledge was passed to them and then they just refined the techniques. It's like Brazilian jiu-jitsu from Japanese jiu-jitsu. I highly doubt Bodhidharma brought kalaripayattu to the Chinese, because he was North Indian and had little knowledge about South Indian martial arts.
JJMATHIAS23 5 months ago
@JJMATHIAS23 : Bodhidharma was a Tamil prince from southern India's Pallava Empire. Scholars have concluded his place of birth to be Kanchipuram in Tamil Nadu.( Source- Wikipedia )
rajeshkalapura 5 months ago
People need to shut the fuck up and stop hating on indians. This is a great ancient martial art. If You dont fucking like it, why the fuck are You here watching the video? Bunch of assholes
CarlosStephenPR 5 months ago
i train in goju ryu karate and this looks good to me. i wud like to train myself in this ancient art of my own country. such kind of extreme flexibility, agility and body control can come in handy in various situations.
broulys1729 5 months ago
Nowadays ,people have rejected these useless traditional 'martial arts' such as kung-fu,karate etc.. in favour of modern combat sciences like Krav Maga,MMA,MCMAP etc.So why revive this useless art in the first place? kalari promoters use emotional appeals and cheap gimmicks towards indians to market their nonsense,making indians feel that they ought to learn it
MrXiphos7 5 months ago
@MrXiphos7 The reason Indian "ethic" martial arts suck is because the British purged off any Indians who could actually fight with REAL martial arts back when they took over.....that's why Indian "culture" (or lack thereof) is based on singing and dancing stupidly to entertain the whites. Indians as a whole have been so culturally bastardized that Indians lack leadership qualities, have no courage whatsoever, and no nationalistic pride at all....
siant666 5 months ago
@siant666 u just mad caz u got no job, all the indians hv ur jobs ..indians are too smart for u all.
siddhu318 4 months ago
@siddhu318 Are you mad because you know that your culture is nothing but a joke created by the white man? How does it feel to be Britain's version of "Uncle Tom"?
siant666 4 months ago
@siant666 @indian culture created by white man.
the language u r speaking , do u know its origins , search google and u'll be surprised(to save ur efforts i'll just tell u, it originated from ancient indian language called "sanskrit")
i wont say anything bad about ur country caz every country has its good and bad things. it makes me very happy to see u full of hate towards my country , it justs shows how immature and insecure u are of us .PEACE(atleast from my side)
siddhu318 4 months ago
@siddhu318 I actually feel sorry for the ancient Aryans, Dravidarians, and other warrior clans of Bharat....they're probably rolling over in their graves seeing how badly their worthless shitty descendents fucked up running their country....the people who beat Alexander the Great were first destroyed by the Mughals and then the British finished the job by killing off any Indian with any real backbone or competency...leaving a country of worthless shits in the process....
siant666 4 months ago
@siant666 Please leave out racism from this video. This is an art form and relevant comments should be made.
Imrankniazi 4 months ago
@siant666 So you're saying English is an offset of Sanskrit? You really are stupid... English is a branch of Germanic languages, but I guess it has its roots in the Indo-European languages but at that time there wasn't even a Sanskrit language so your argument is mute....
siant666 4 months ago
@siant666 sanskrit is the mother of almost all european languages moron.but u wont accept it , ur fake pride dosent let that happen. killing innocent people(native indians)and taking over their land and calling urself american dosent make u great. do u even have a martial art of ur own?? no. thats y u angry
siddhu318 4 months ago
@siddhu318 I'm the one with fake pride? Says the dirtmonkey who's trying to take credit for all European achievements.....
siant666 4 months ago
@siant666 h ttp : // bharatjohnson . sulekha . com /blog/post/2011/06/why-sanskrit-is-the-mother-of-all-indo-european-languages . h tm
siddhu318 4 months ago
@siddhu318 Really? "Bharat"-Hindu word for "India" Johnson? And the writer of a blog has no alterior motive at all? How stupid are you kid?
siant666 4 months ago
@siant666 hahaha u r such a moron, "hindu" is a religion "hindi" is a language. it dosent matter what is the name of the link , search any link and u will find the same thing i said ,i just gave u one to save ur effort but u cant even copy paste that , such a shame, u r too ashamed of not having a martial art of ur own so u try commenting idiotically on others. such a loser. illiterate pig.
siddhu318 4 months ago
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@siant666 { h ttp : // bharatjohnson . sulekha . com /blog/post/2011/06/why-sanskrit-is-the-mother-of-all-indo-european-languages . h tm } also there are many links that u can go search on google, but u r not doing so caz u live in ur imaginary world and are too afraid to face the truth, also ur not answering to my questions shows ur ignorance towards the facts(do u even have a martial art of ur own) .
siddhu318 4 months ago
@siant666 that is true...i feel sorry for them
MrXiphos7 3 weeks ago
@MrXiphos7 Many people still trains all forms of martial arts, karate, judo, kallari etc. Krav Maga has usefull moves from all of them, in MMA u can use any of them basicly and MCMAP are very judo based. All martial arts have 5000 year old indian kallaripayattu origins. Only ones that differ is Capoeira and some forms in Africa
ERIK000000000 5 months ago
@ERIK000000000 nope thats not true....99% of all fighting styles have nothing to do with kalari...most of them are indigenous...
MrXiphos7 3 weeks ago
As if India hasn't embarassed itself enough in the global stage,here comes along yet another piece of ethnic bullshit-kalaripayyatu. A so called 'fighting' style in which two malnourished looking gay men dunked in gallons of oil and wearing gay loincloths jump up and down like gay monkeys. It is a well known (and proven)fact that kalaripayyatu is useless in a fight
MrXiphos7 5 months ago
@MrXiphos7 proven fact , by whom ?? malnoursished gay men? hahaha send ur hot dog and pie eaters out here , usa has the most obese population in the world and u talk of fighting.
siddhu318 4 months ago
@siddhu318 u fuckin slumdog...we r bigger and stronger than u skinny brown bastards..even our women are taller and stronger than you....so just fuck off,cow worshipper
MrXiphos7 3 weeks ago
Look at those dirty practitioners wearing a diaper doing their feeble moves.
ConfucianScholar 5 months ago
@ConfucianScholar hahaha...lol
MrXiphos7 3 weeks ago
I noticed a move which i recognize! 2:47 - 2:50. Flying fish kick or what ever it might have been called!
theSarkis 6 months ago
My cock is much bigger than yooooouuuurs! My cock can walk right through that door!
theSarkis 6 months ago
Friends...We all belong to one universe. So why the debate, which style came before which, or which is better than what? Yes, Chinese and Indian styles had different origins. (I have trained in Wushu, Taekwondo, Tai Chi and I am a yoga practitioner too) So what? Let each influence the others. All are great. Bruce Lee said "The highest technique is to have no technique". So, if I am an Indian, I will have absolutely no problem touching the feet of my Chinese Master. Pranams to all.
MegaAndiee 6 months ago 15
@MegaAndiee 武林只可以在格斗将相比之下，但是不会太极与将相比之下。您刚才表明了，您迄今为止就不明白，迄今为止不知道。仍然，您的话有的对。You cannot compare Wushu to Taiji, you can only compare Wushu to Gedou. You have just shown that you don't yet know or understand. Nevertheless there's some truth in your words.
GaolisVideoLog 3 months ago
@MegaAndiee Not to sound like a mule, but the debate comes from name. A name is a spell and are often times very bewitching and powerful. With the names come meaning, and with that comes knowledge which is painful. Pain shows you sides, prejudice is born. As long as their are different techniques there will always be a struggle for balance or more commonly domination. But as grim as that sounds, isn't that part of what the fight is about? Just a thought, not trying ti be rude. -Ixstar
AnkhHero 3 months ago
Kalari TRUTH:
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
angryaznman 6 months ago
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
angryaznman 6 months ago
Pure Facts that destroy delusional dreamers:
1. Kung Fu predates shaolin: Spring and Autumn Annals of Wu and Yue, the Bibliographies in the Book of the Han Dynasty and the Records of the Grand Historian all document martial arts that predate Shaolin. A good example is Shuai Jiao, grappling martial art.
angryaznman 6 months ago
2. Shaolin kung fu predates bodhi: The 2 men who became the VERY FIRST Shaolin monks were ALREADY experts in kung fu. Shaolin kung fu came from them. ("History of Chinese Martial arts: Jin Dynasty to the Period of Disunity") Also, they found weapons in the monestaries of Chang'an. ("Martial arts Myths of Shaolin Monastery, Part I: The Giant with the Flaming Staff") Suggesting the monks already practied martial arts.
angryaznman 6 months ago
3. Creation of 5 animal kung fu styles is documented, NO BODHI: Jueyuan was a master of the 18 Luohan Hands. the original 18 techniques of Shaolin. He expand to 72, but wanted to do more. He travel to Gansu Province to the city of Lanzhou and met Li Sou. He was a master of Hong Quan. they work with Bai YuFeng and expand the 72 techniques to around 170. Those 170 techniques were than divided into the 5 animal forms.
angryaznman 6 months ago
4. The ONE place that credits bodhi is discredited: ONLY the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yijin Jing mentions Bodhi with kung fu at all. Historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) discredit this preface because it is FULL of INACCURACIES. Even getting the Emperor Reigns wrong.
angryaznman 6 months ago
5. The painting in Shaolin does NOT depict bodhi teaching shaolin monks. It actually only shows many shades of monks, all wearing Chinese clothes, practicing kung fu. Leave it to dreamers to think anyone who is a shade darker than light is Indian. Even if they were, no indication whatsoever about bodhi. PLUS the painting was done a THOUSAND years after bodhi’s time. It CANNOT be used as an indication of the past.
angryaznman 6 months ago
6. Sinews Changing Classic: Scholars disregard this preface because it has many anachronistic mistakes and the fact that popular fictional characters from Chinese literature, including the "Bushy Bearded Hero" (虬髯客), are listed as lineage masters. In fact, Ling Tinkang (1757-1809), a SCHOLAR of the QING Dynasty, described the author (Li Jing) as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
angryaznman 6 months ago
7. So in conclusion, there was kung fu before shaolin. There was shaolin kung fu before bodhi. The creation of the animal styles is documented, no bodhi. The one source that credits bodhi is faulty and the author of that one preface was viewed as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
The End, dreams over.
angryaznman 6 months ago
ohh my god ok ok ...china has real martial art...fine man..relax....but do they have real dick.....if they dont think dick and peanut same.....
mikinpin 6 months ago
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choorakkodykalari 6 months ago
Hit up Martial Arts on Wiki and check the history to get your answers :)!!! Peace
TheLucidDruid 7 months ago
It is a fact that martial arts originaed from Vedic culture. The chinese will never admit this because of their pride, but it is a fact.
ShaolinSurfer777 7 months ago
@ShaolinSurfer777 nope, read my posts for real historical fact.
angryaznman 6 months ago
r they trollin? didn laugh that good for quite sum time!
Eurospezial 8 months ago
con.
First, Why only shaolin styles started in shaolin temple!
long before there was the temple shaolin existed martial arts in China!
existed in the past more than 500 different styles of Chinese martial arts. and even with prohibition the centuries of many emperors and even the Communist government, we still have over 100 styles of Chinese martial arts!
OSCARDOTAO 8 months ago
I and many other scholars who disagree with Chinese martial arts kung fu has begun in India.
First, Why only shaolin styles started in shaolin temple!
long before there was the temple shaolin existed martial arts in China!
existed in the past more than 500 different styles of Chinese martial arts. and even with prohibition the centuries of many emperors and even the Communist government, we still have over 100 styles of Chinese martial arts!
OSCARDOTAO 8 months ago
the origin of all martial arts?
BudaTomu 8 months ago
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@all indian.
Hey mate ramsen i can tell you that you need to do more research ok because shaoling temple martial art never originated from the south indian guy named bodhidharma.It was originated from kirata mongoloied race of himalaya or nepal and traveled to the india and china.Buddha himself was mongoloied man from nepal not india.Aryans were not inventor of martial art it was kirata mongoloied race of himalaya.
raj26079 9 months ago
1:02 "Perfect peas of the mind". HAHA
RavenGarciaXIV 9 months ago
I dont care which came first, which style is best ect ect . As long as your happy, being true to yourself and passionate with your own training
I certainly am..
faztclix 9 months ago 19
there is no doubt that kungfu is chinesse original, budha lived in 5th cent BC while china al ready in turmoil and constant wars in 1700s BC and more, within this era they developed they own style of martial arts
MrSolitude14 9 months ago
No one should care what martial art came first or from where. In the end it becomes about the individual, not the style.
MrEpicTruth 9 months ago
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
angryaznman 9 months ago
Kalari TRUTH:
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
angryaznman 9 months ago
7. So in conclusion, there was kung fu before shaolin. There was shaolin kung fu before bodhi. The creation of the animal styles is documented, no bodhi. The one source that credits bodhi is faulty and the author of that one preface was viewed as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
The End, dreams over.
angryaznman 9 months ago
6. Sinews Changing Classic: Scholars disregard this preface because it has many anachronistic mistakes and the fact that popular fictional characters from Chinese literature, including the "Bushy Bearded Hero" (虬髯客), are listed as lineage masters. In fact, Ling Tinkang (1757-1809), a SCHOLAR of the QING Dynasty, described the author (Li Jing) as an “IGNORANT VILLAGE MASTER”
angryaznman 9 months ago
5. The painting in Shaolin does NOT depict bodhi teaching shaolin monks. It actually only shows many shades of monks, all wearing Chinese clothes, practicing kung fu. Leave it to dreamers to think anyone who is a shade darker than light is Indian. Even if they were, no indication whatsoever about bodhi. PLUS the painting was done a THOUSAND years after bodhi’s time. It CANNOT be used as an indication of the past.
angryaznman 9 months ago
4. The ONE place that credits bodhi is discredited: ONLY the PREFACE of the 1800s VERSION of the Yijin Jing mentions Bodhi with kung fu at all. Historians (like Tang Hao, Xu Zhen and Matsuda Ryuchi) discredit this preface because it is FULL of INACCURACIES. Even getting the Emperor Reigns wrong.
angryaznman 9 months ago
3. Creation of 5 animal kung fu styles is documented, NO BODHI: Jueyuan was a master of the 18 Luohan Hands. the original 18 techniques of Shaolin. He expand to 72, but wanted to do more. He travel to Gansu Province to the city of Lanzhou and met Li Sou. He was a master of Hong Quan. they work with Bai YuFeng and expand the 72 techniques to around 170. Those 170 techniques were than divided into the 5 animal forms.
angryaznman 9 months ago
2. Shaolin kung fu predates bodhi: The 2 men who became the VERY FIRST Shaolin monks were ALREADY experts in kung fu. Shaolin kung fu came from them. ("History of Chinese Martial arts: Jin Dynasty to the Period of Disunity") Also, they found weapons in the monestaries of Chang'an. ("Martial arts Myths of Shaolin Monastery, Part I: The Giant with the Flaming Staff") Suggesting the monks already practied martial arts.
angryaznman 9 months ago
Pure Facts that destroy delusional dreamers:
1. Kung Fu predates shaolin: Spring and Autumn Annals of Wu and Yue, the Bibliographies in the Book of the Han Dynasty and the Records of the Grand Historian all document martial arts that predate Shaolin. A good example is Shuai Jiao, grappling martial art.
angryaznman 9 months ago
kalari existed from 3rd century my friend kung fu originated on 5th century pls verify before u post
uchihaitachi072 9 months ago
kalaripayattu is close to the original martial arts and its the truth but i saw the comments criticizing this to all those members who critisize this Fuck u.If u dont know then don't comment u guys r just jealous and say all rubbish things.
uchihaitachi072 9 months ago
Most beautyful martial art.......!!
getunni09 9 months ago
Those loincloths are distracting as balls.
fremen13 10 months ago
Lal, what the hell, people saying they believe they are fruits in this vid, I don't understand. The video shows great agility and grace. This martial art looks awesome. I would like to practice it!
Cl0taire 11 months ago 11
@Cl0taire if you mess up in this performance you can die or get seriously injured.
crewifyable 4 months ago
@Cl0taire the only thing i think that is gay about this martial art is the oiling thing. i know its how the body thing and bla bla bla, but, by onother guys hands?! BEING OILED?! BY A MAN??! GROSS
crewifyable 4 months ago
Blah!
bandamapas 11 months ago
and i thought my thai trunks were short
smoothboner 1 year ago
fucking chinks copied tht toooooooooo
karthikthomask 1 year ago
@karthikthomask That's what you think, but they didn't.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago
They are rather limber aren't they. Also Impressive
raivyneleigh 1 year ago
O termo Kalaripayattu pode ser traduzido como “praticando as artes do campo de batalha” no dialeto Malayalam, falado no estado indiano de Kerala. Em tempos remotos, disputas entre os nobres indianos também surgiram com o aparecimento de um torneio de Kalaripayattu.
Esta arte ancestral é chamada de “a mãe de todas as artes marciais” – até mesmo a chinesa Shaolin chuan do famoso templo Shaolin tem sua origem no Bodhi Dharma, um monge budista indiano que era especialista em Kalaripayattu.
Emebabane88 1 year ago
should be an olympic sport!
1980OCD 1 year ago
@1980OCD It should not be because the Olympics will tame it.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago
well these guys are bloody serious, no padding or anything.
firefrostpeacemaker 1 year ago
Phillip Zarrilli, a professor at the University of Exeter and one of the few Western authorities on kalari payat, estimates that the art dates back to at least the 12th century CE. The historian Elamkulam Kunjan Pillai attributes the birth of kalari payat to an extended period of warfare between the Cheras and the Cholas in the 11th century CE.
angryaznman 1 year ago
Kalari TRUTH:
In Sangam, Kalari was not used as a martial act according to dick Luijendijk, a researcher at the university of Nijmegen. "Kalari" is a centre of learning in Kerala. they taught language, math etc. later on, there were fight schools, thats what "payattu kalari" means.
angryaznman 1 year ago
Hell yea gotta love those katara.
wally2296 1 year ago
THIS is the origin of martial arts.
MrAmsterdamcity1 1 year ago
@MrAmsterdamcity1 Nope, it isn't.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago
@MrAmsterdamcity1 You're a dumbass; this was originated around 1100 ACE....The Chinese were practicing martial arts centuries before this...
eequalsmcvajeen12 1 year ago
@eequalsmcvajeen12
sorry but who the hack told you it was originated at that time?
no one could ever prove that! and Bodhi Darmha came from India
to China with the martial arts techniques so yes, I BELIEVE it is the Indian Fighting style that's the mother of martial arts!
right?
rmwua 1 year ago
@rmwua And....I'm not seeing any solid evidence coming from your end at all.....Good job. You just denied what I said, of which I gave specifics; and you didn't really do anything.
eequalsmcvajeen12 1 year ago
@eequalsmcvajeen12
wtf do you mean with 'you didn't do anything' ??
I did a lot of research
And one thing I know is that we'll never know it if this is the 1th fighting style
but so what?
I believe it is and I really don't care what you believe.... xD
rmwua 1 year ago
@rmwua Okay; then, if you believe invalid intent; why bother telling me?
eequalsmcvajeen12 1 year ago
@eequalsmcvajeen12
look idiot lfmao THAT's what I mean
who the fuck said it was invalid??
well?
rmwua 1 year ago
@rmwua I did. As well as anyone except for you. Anyone who has a straight head, and didn't get their information from hear-say or themselves. Like you.
eequalsmcvajeen12 1 year ago
rmwua 1 year ago
@rmwua And what correlation does this have exactly? Plus, this intent was laid out very poorly. Better luck next time.
eequalsmcvajeen12 1 year ago
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@eequalsmcvajeen12
tss whatever
why the fuck am I wasting my time on stupid people like you who don't
have any brains??
See ya idiot xD
(I understand if you are having a hard time cuz you just can't believe me xD)
rmwua 1 year ago
@rmwua Wow, well done *clap clap*
By your reasoning you've just proved that god exists.
raivyneleigh 1 year ago
@raivyneleigh
OMG lill bitch
are you following me and trying to answer all my comments? xD
pathetic
rmwua 1 year ago
@rmwua Nope I just happened along here and couldn't resist another oppurtunity to show you up.
Why are you up yourself as well as stupid sweety?
raivyneleigh 1 year ago
@raivyneleigh
oh you 'just happened here' huh?
and you just couldn't leave it to reply me with your stupid idiot annoying
comments? omg you're really such a pathetic person who does not have a life xD
I mean : I just reply you once and the day after I get 3 comments back
what do you mean with ' does not have a live'
rmwua 1 year ago
@rmwua yes I 'just happened here' we obviously have very similar interests and are bound to wind up viewing similar videos, get over yourself.
And when am I supposed to have said that you don't have a life. Are you delusional too?
How many more hissy fits are you going to have by the way?
Sweety you have one argument in your arsenal that you can't even present well enough, you are soooooo not worth it.
raivyneleigh 1 year ago
@raivyneleigh
And you are soo lame and not worth it (absolutely not)
one question but I don't need an answer , just think about it yourself :)
If I'm so stupid and sooooo not worth it, why are you answering me sweety?
:) :)
Good luck with your bad , unlucky, sad life :)
rmwua 1 year ago
@eequalsmcvajeen12 centuries??the first WRITTEN record of kalari is in the sanskrit vedas dating over 5250 yrs ago.In there it is referenced to a time beyond modern comprehension of even well before that attributed to a Lord Kartikeya when there wasnt even a race differential in humans.
07dineshb 1 year ago
@07dineshb I believe that what you are mistaking for fact is folklore-- There actually is a big difference in the real world...You do know that Kartikeya is also a fictional character from Indian mythology? God; you're so retarded. A time beyond modern comprehension? Are you that imbecilic?
eequalsmcvajeen12 1 year ago
dhalsim (street fighter) use this kind of martial art..
aremieroll1990 1 year ago
the lamest narration/ music.