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  • 5 people are... i have no clue dude. HOW COULD YOU NOT LIKE THIS???

  • @johnson1095 - look at the (hundreds of sick stalker)channel(s) and comments of the scum that i replied to just under here, and take a wild guess as to why every single sane best way of doing things - is the fucking opposite of what the scum running the world have enforced in as systems and 'civilisation', that's why they don't like videos like this, and don't build things this way all along as anyone real and sane would do.

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  • Stupid thinking... Where is the Cows and Pigs, No Animals Farming = no life.****

  • @NW0arescum No one here is interested in your delusions, Clara.

  • I love this stuff since sim city 2000

  • SORRY FOR CAPS. ON MY TABLET--THE VENUS PROJECT AND THE ZEITGEIST MOVEMENT. ARE AN IDEA OF CREATEING SELF SUSTAINING CITIES. FOR WATER--POWER AND FOOD---CREATEING A RESOURCE BASED ECONOMY.--THEY ADVOCATE THE IDEAS SUCH AS THESE. SURPRISED YOU HAVE NOT HEARD OF THEM.

  • @riseingstardust - the venus project structural shapes are similar, that's about it. this is more about cities integrated with plants (tho i noticed the lilypad city in there). zeitgeist is different from venus project.

    people online trying to get me interested in them - they turned out to be psychotics that think the future is about robots doing work for humans..

    that mistake is already the present time.

  • @NW0arescum It is about embraceing technology in an ever emergent process. Createing a sustainable future for all mankind. Robotics and other forms of automation, are quickly takeing over manual labor. Farming is one of those areas you see it the most. The world is changeing very fast now. Good to see you involved.

  • @riseingstardust - i clearly stated how psychotic the idiots online are, who think the future is about things like using robots to work for people even more so than now.

    that isn't green, it's mentally ill and really stupid.

    venus project and zeitgeist have good points, but overall are very stupid and don't address and care about what matters most, respectively.

    real people want jobs in permaculture and on forest farms and on hand looms etc. that's the only sane body-future.

  • @riseingstardust - also i don't understand what you're implying by 'good to see you involved' - as if i wasn't before and as if i'd be involved in anything stupid that won't go the whole way required.

    i've known since ever in this incarnation that a. the 'fantasy' things in fiction are based on truth, and that real reality is suppressed & b. i'm reincarnated.

    so from the start i looked for how to get those facts known again by the whole world, and being green is part of that.

  • I understand foodmiles etc....

    The problem I see with high-rise agriculture is it further isolates city people from reality of nature.

    Currently in Australia we have a debate about CoalSeamGas vrs Farmland. The only thing stopping all out CoalSeamGas exploitation at full speed is that someone has an economic investment in the land. Pack everyone into "green" cities and all you do is free up the rest of the world for total and complete exploitation.

  • @mryellow123 - you also wrote here,

    "The problem I see with high-rise agriculture is it further isolates city people from reality of nature."

    "Pack everyone into "green" cities and all you do is free up the rest of the world for total and complete exploitation."

    what happened, did the child-abuser-cult of satanist stalking me take over your channel and-or body too then?

    cause what you replied to me here today, is the total opposite of your 2 months ago comments there.

  • r u part of the venus project

  • whats the venus project?

  • @1acrain Venus project thinks the world as we know is going to end and they are building a new society through combination of technology and resource planning. They recommended garden city as solution to future city planning.

  • @riseingstardust lol, i know what the venus project is! cool concept, but i dont imagine it ever happening

  • 2:29 is the best building

  • Have you seen the design of a heat differential power plant, its basically a huge chimey. I was thinking that you could merge/incorperate a vertical farm onto it.

    what do you think?

  • Did you see Bosco Verticale project from Stefano Boeri?

  • Benefits of vertical, internal farms:

    Can be automated;

    Uses much less horizontal space;

    Can be placed locally;

    Uses much less resources through hydroponics;

    Adjustable internal environments, meaning year-round production and can replicate climates from all regions

    Diseases are more manageable.

    The company that develops this first will see profits go through the roof. However, it's a pandora's box, because once everyone starts doing this, food prices will drop immensely due to high supply.

  • @Likwidify It's an example of how the nature of business is holding back such a great idea. It will come eventually, but at a rate which is way too slow.

  • @Likwidify Although vertical is more productive the capital it takes is far greater than a typical farm field and I don't see going vertical going big until a cheap energy source is discovered and the lighting and automation can be done more cheaply.

  • This is a amazing concept. This would be so great to see done on a large scale. I would love to have a chance one day to work on a project like these. Its creativity like this that has inspired me to become a Landscape Architect. Who wouldnt want to be part of a project like these ones?

  • @FLYINR85 well from what I've read there is an issue of cost related to building these massive structures. I can see that the first truly vertical farms would be small perhaps 5-6 stories as an experiment then moving up to perhaps 10-30 stories to see if it would work before going large scale 2,000 feet high. Most likely we would be using old buildings or lots which are completely vacant and unused.

  • one massive ecological benefit to vertical or urban farming is that if they are set up properly, the land which was once used for horizontal farming could be given back for nature to conquer back.

  • @curingaging00 It won't be, this is the problem with humans and our relationship to environments through all of history. The land "once used for horizontal farming" won't be left "fallow" and nature will never be allowed to conquer it back. Instead it will be fully exploited for every last ounce of resources while you live in your pretty eco-plastic green city with big walls around it keeping you safe from the big toxic dump outside while existing on the few remaining scarce resources.

  • @mryellow123 - i think this is just showing a better way of doing cities than what currently exists (it'd be better if they had living walls roofs and plants integrated in structures), of course there's the problem with fakes and exploiters thinking it's about what you say - moving people into them (if they don't already live there) and keeping up the ecosystem exploitation. which is why those kinds of scumbags have to be gotten rid of, so they can't ruin anything ever again.

  • @NW0arescum "those scumbags" are normal people. When you create an opening it's only natural for life to exploit it. The VP stuff says it clears the world up for nature to just live on it's own..... Very short-sighted.

  • @mryellow123 - they're not normal at all. normal people don't think like 'i want robots to do all the work for me' - the scumbag sheeple parasites don't even have a grasp of what it takes to manufacture the machines, which themselves manufacture the parts for engineering and electronics. nevermind how any of it works and is maintained - the cost of that is only available with false unsustainable economics.

    normal = no-impact & low-impact building.

  • Just an idea taken from zeitgeist (venus project)...

  • now that would be a brilliant future. One were we turn massive sized building into farm cultivative structures. Some so huge that that you would not feel like you were in a building. Then we go visit the areas were we decided to leave alone and see improvement in regrowth.

  • It's so great to see "ordinary people" taking control of their food production in their home communities! Talk about "grass roots movements!" Hooray for Urban Roots! The lady is right: "MoTown" is coming to be "Grow Town"!

  • If these buildings come into fruition, then DETROIT could become the next KANSAS.. All those excellent plots of land going to waste.. It would be AWESOME if Detroit could rise once again.. This time as the Agriculture capital of the world,,

  • @communistjesus wouldn't that be the shit !

    Something needs to be done with Detroit, poor bastards.

  • We are the holding company alexander let us be most going to build big city tourist ecologique to the world.

    We ask you to send to us coordinate them architects who have models for tourist bulding and envirenementales as on the video.

    Express in the president Priére to contact us: califanochristophe@yahoo.fr

  • Just a tiny tiny part of The Venus Project.

  • Na klar, das ist für Augen phantastisch und sicherlich jeden Architekten der absolute Traum, aber kann das gut sein? Es gibt da ziemlich viele pro´s und contra´s, und es gibt meines Wissens nach auch noch keine Analyse zur Durchführbarkeit eines solchen Projektes, würde mich mal brennend interessieren... Sicherlich für unwettergeplagte Gegenden ein Paradies, aber Stromverbrauch, Bauern denen keiner mehr die Erzeugnisse mehr abkauft... :-/

  • shit seriously, even if it ended up a shit dystopia (technically already is) at least we could look out to those awesome artistic landscapes, i would feel wonder and amazement like when you look at the stars or when yoru on acid

  • @fatwadmcskylar thanks for knowing these things,,,they are very important factors

  • Vertical farms would THRIVE in the middle of big cities because of all the Carbondioxide! and they should make it so, that i would take in CO2 at the top of a building/Vertical farm, the slowly blow it down through the system, giving all vegetation a chance to convert the CO2 into pure oxygen, and at the bottom, fresh clean oxygen would then blow out of the building at street level!

  • @lekkimsm2500 And then someone smoking on the street is set on fire by the pure oxygen! 8p Oxyfarts are fatal.

    Ok we blend the oxy with normal air and breath deep! 8)

  • 1:55 gave me an idea :D

  • My professor of Environmental aspects told me it is a bad idea, but I don't believe him. I'd be very cool if it would be applied everywhere, but the only problem I see is cars, if we are to eat of these veggies, I'd rather if we'd have passed on completely on electrical vehicles, because I don't fancy having additional sulfur in my salad.

  • @Archimedes555453525 I have been been a landscape contractor for many years who has spoken with many enviromental and landscape engineers who claim vertical agriculture is a Dubai influence dream aimed towards the midwest. The research and the labor cost is way too out of reach unless we re-institute slavery.

  • @MattyTheMole thats stupid, all it would take is a gradual organized shift of working professions, get the people who want to research and design, get the people who like making ideas practical, and i dont think construction workers care what kind of building theyre making, or loggers what purpose the log is for, etc. We still move water up into office buildings for regular use, we can get it up there for plants just as easily! its using the same, if not a LITTLE more, and getting alot in return

  • @MattyTheMole There's something new! It's not slavery! IT'S VOLUNTEER WORK!

  • Vertical farming is here today. All these Sci-Fi concept buildings make it look like a pie-in-the-sky idea, but check out Valcent's VertiCrop system to see the future of farming.

  • where did you get these images from like 0:40 is a great building

  • Maybe these requirements could be added in Building codes so that it could be strictly enforce.

  • Self sustainable cities will be essential in the next century, especially up north in the Netherlands, Britain, Canada, Alaska, and Russia as the climate heats up dramatically.

    Also look up Invitro meat, absolutely fascinating concept to phase out cattle ranching with meat from genetic cultures, sounds sci-fi but its gained alot of attention.

  • I would love for these to be built around where i live.

    green city ;)

  • why arn't we mass constructing these? whats holding us back?

  • Money and...well mainly "political will"! Our politicians in other words aren't doing their jobs, as they have higher "priorities" on their minds right now then this. BS

  • @LifeIsScience1 Politicans are the peopel that want those farms you fucknig dimrod! IT'S THEUNEDUCATED CITIZENS WHO DON'T!

  • @SniperViper1000 Really man...you state it's the "UNEDUCATED CITIZENS" who don't want this, but the politicians do!? lol I'm an ecologist and I find that hilarious!! lol Yeah maybe the uneducated don't want it,but it would benefit them the most and don't even have a say cuz even if they disagree they never take the time(the majority) to go to the vote. It's the politicians that don't want to do it..trust me, we already have the technology,

  • @LifeIsScience1 it's just that their agreements with foreign countries (and money they get under the table) is what's in the way; "lack of will", don't listen to the politicians they only say what you want to hear and act on personal interest. Ecologist have been pushing structures like these for years and the politicians...yeah they "support it", but when are they actually going to pass it!? If this was another "army project" I can almost bet this would of been passed years ago! lol

  • @LifeIsScience1 You're 100% wrong!

    Every future-polictican or current politican I've have EVER TALKED to said they support these and EVEN CORPORATION ARER GOING IN THE FUN AND FUNDING THEM! Search "Vertical farming" in the search bar and click on the DiscoveryNetwork video and watch what the citizens say... now go and ask actual average citizens what they think and they'll be the most common answer.

    I ALSO HIGHLY DOUBT THAT YOU'RE AN ECOLOGIST!!!

  • Follow the money.

  • IMO vertical farms are a pipedream.

    Where does the energy come from? the sun. so the only issue is do you have sunlight & water. you still have to move the energy.

    IMO eco living will be small low-tech villages...

    these utopian pictures project forward the Fossil-Fueled expectations we grew up with.

    IMO only nuclear power would make them worthwhile, but needing nuclear for food seems dangerous

  • @walter0bz You can get NOW a solar thermal electricity generator for $300,000 It wold work fine on this building. Is called The PowerDish™ by Infinia you could put one powerdish per floor on the out side of the building to get your power.

  • @astrialkil -

    i hope this is a sarcastic post :)

  • @curingaging00 Lack of demand, critcism from citizens and others etc, etc...

  • I love the GREEN IDEA!!!

  • Does anyone think this is profitable? Because in the end that is what it is all about to the developers. (Sad but all to true).

    Please message me if you have any links to the economics behind concepts like these. Thank you.

  • Very nice indeed! I just hope it all goes beyond concept and that people build these truly green cities. What's the one at 1:56, looks really impressive!

  • i think the one at 1:56 is a korean resort in a rock quarry i don't think it was ever built .

  • @SiliconeSlave If we ever work out a cheap energy solution I foresee 50 story tall metal sided warehouse like structures. The would have 50 times the growing area as compared to a farm field and would take less building material then the vertical concepts proposed in the video.

    The yield would be much more than more than fifty times, as growing conditions would be perfectly controlled in a indoor environment.. Hydroponic factory metal siding warehouses. It wont be beautiful but it will produce.

  • Very nice compilation! Thank you for posting.

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