@EWLGtoday His name is Muhammad ibn Abdullah, from the tribe of Qahtan, from Madinah. He is a member of the family of the Prophet SAAWS. He will be given the Bay'ah at the Ka'aba in Makkah
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You asked 'When will he come?'. No one knows the answer to that. But the true question is, what have you prepared for that time?
Ahmedi brothers and sister please follow Quran...........please read these two surahs to understand the tricks HMGA played with the words of Allah.....surah 81and 75.
at Farhan 2 If some one was to be a Muslims belonging to which ever sect and then left and be came a christian or Hindu ...i will it mean that Islam is a false religion?
This sura is proof of "NABI(S)" in the future tense.....which you should not have a problem understanding...very clear....just ponder on it for a bit!
[Nisa 4:69] And whoever obeys Allah and His Noble Messenger, will be with those upon whom Allah has bestowed grace - that is, the Prophets and the truthful and the martyrs and the virtuous; and what excellent companions they are!
SO.......with your limited view THERE WOULD BE NEED FOR PROPHECY IN JANNAH; and prophets for different groups of humans. That would be like earth; jannah is "SIMILAR" yet not the same brother.
Thus; a true Muslim can achieve any of the four status/rank mentioned in Quran.........but he must first be a Muslim; in order to achieve such a rank..... Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) was a simple and pure Muslim........all prophets were simple human beings who the world rejected when Allah blessed them with all the signs possible.....it is always the people who are mistaken brother......Allah is the all mighty and wise.......
ALLAH HAS CHOSEN HIM TO BE THE GUIDING LIGHT OF THIS DAY AND AGE!
This sura is proof of "NABI(S)" in the future tense.....which you should not have a problem understanding...very clear....just ponder on it for a bit!
[Nisa 4:69] And whoever obeys Allah and His Noble Messenger, will be with those upon whom Allah has bestowed grace - that is, the Prophets and the truthful and the martyrs and the virtuous; and what excellent companions they are!
This sura is proof of "NABI(S)" in the future tense.....which you should not have a problem understanding...very simple and clear....just ponder on it for a bit!
[Nisa 4:69] And whoever obeys Allah and His Noble Messenger, will be with those upon whom Allah has bestowed grace - that is, the Prophets and the truthful and the martyrs and the virtuous; and what excellent companions they are!
Prophet Moses as requested that O God, appoint me a Prophet of this Ummah. Allāh said that their Prophet shall be from amongst them. Prophet Moses as again requested that then make me a member of this Ummah. Allāh said that you are before them and they shall be after you, but I shall join you in the House of My Majesty. (Al-Khasaisul Kubrā by Allamā Jalāluddin Al-Sayyūtī; & Nashr-ut-Tīb Fī Zikr-un-Nabī Alhabīb, by Ashraf Alī Thanvī)
Abu Na`eem related in Hulya from Anas ra that the Holy Prophet sa said that Allāh revealed to Prophet Moses as that I shall throw all those in hell who come to me in a state that they rejected Ahmad sa. Prophet Moses as asked, O God, who is Ahmad? Allāh said that he is the best amongst all the creatures and I wrote his name on throne before the creation of heaven and earth and none of my creatures can enter Paradise unless they become member of his Ummah.
@xiaahmad you have cetain things in your own mind which you choose to associate it with as Ahmadi Muslims.
you saw in the beginging of the video Farhan00 saoid he goes to alislam website why dont you go there rather than watching his videos or going on shahid website the cult?
i even read MGA's book and also have read the scholars that ur jammat quote out of context.
and that prove even futher that ur Jammmat is liar.
like mullah Ali Qari, Ibn Arabi, Mulana Thanwi etc whom ur jammat try to quote all were firm believers in Khatam-e-Nabuwat so that prove it beyond any doubt that ahmadi jammat is not truthful
my reply for this video, in chiledhood l use to go to sunny masque, there ulama were like evils, they beat there students during teaching of HQ, and there studens learn them with that name of (molvi bakra), and when they speek about other sects of Islam they start abusing in mosques, on load speaker they teach islam as extream religion and teach the hater for fellow mankinds, and many more....
Brother Farhan, i am trying to learn as much as i can about Islam and your vidoe's have been helpful in making sure i dont deviate from the right path. I have read all comments on all your vidoe's u have posted and respect u for being honest and polite to any responses, well done, may Allah help educate us and unite all true Muslims, may Allah guide those who have strayed back to the right path,,
look at the comments and look at the two guys in the video... anyway good luck to u ppl try ur best to explain to them there is no point but go ahead anyway
The music played first of your video is a copy of "Christians" song from"Jeff Buckley's- Hallelujah" It's a shame to see how You Muslims become "Moral" and "Intellectual" bankrupt.
Do you have knowledge about intellectual property? You are infact a thief when you use a stolen song...Which was "Hallelujah" to "la ilaha". It's a Clear sign from Allah to Pinpoint the Moral and Intellectual bankruptcy of Muslims. And You call this a "tangent arguments".
An educated Christian will laugh to see how you try to validate a simple copyright theft .
Moreover you bring Imam Ghazalis Viewpoint on Music. Shall I cry or what?
You aren't making any sense. You're going form topic to topic, without a central point, and throw out insults left and right. In one of your messages, you rejected Miracles. I left it as-is, without commenting. I want people to read that.
I really don't see what "Ya Ilahi" has to do with Ahmadism, or why you would even feel its important to bring up. Or why you would say "Shall I cry or what?"
I'm having trouble having a consistent conversation with you.
--There is No such Miracle which breaks or bend the laws of nature --
Why then I bring the stolen song topic?
1] Well the stolen song "Ya Ilahi" is a copy of "Hallelujah" which I found quite disturbing in a religious channel.
2]But my major intention was to check your mindset. How you think and justify a crime. And I saw how you debate on such a silly topic...Now tell me "How can I expect you to believe my interpretation of JINN".
I believe al-Jinn are as the Qur'an and Sunnah describe them. They are another type of creation, just like humanity, that live. Some are Muslims, some are Kafireen. We are not able to see them (except a few).
In Ahmadism, Jinn are bacteria. So, Surah al-Jinn refers to bacteria that heard the Qur'an...
Why do you provide the half truth. One of the interpretation of Jinn is "Hidden entity" Which you admit as your belief also. And Mirza Tahair ahmed Explain a simple hadith based on that. He just used that spacific term to explain the Hadith...or do you believe Muslim Jinn also eat Dried bones!
The Prophet said "The Israelis used to be ruled and guided by prophets: Whenever a prophet died another would take over his place. There will be no prophet after me, but there will be Caliphs who will
increase in number" The people asked "Allah's Apostle! What do you order us?" He said, "Obey the one who will be given the pledge of allegiance first. Fulfill their (i.e. the Caliphs) rights for Allah will ask them about in ruling those Allah has put under their guardianship"
No, we do not believe in other prophets. But the testification of the greatness of the Prophet Muhammad SAAWS is not prophets coming in this nation. Instead, it is that another prophet ('Esa bin Maryam (AS)) will pray behind the Ummati of Muhammad SAAWS.
Second, you've now admitted that you believe in other divinely revealed, holy books OTHER than the the Qur'an. This is exactly what the Baha'i believe.
You believe 'Esa bin Maryam (AS) survived the cross, based on the Bible, even though the Bible says he died, and then died in Galilee...or Jerusalem...or Syria...or Kashmir (According to Mirza, God changed his mind)
You reject the concept of miracles. You are the first Ahmadi to openly declare that instead of beating around the bush.
Do you believe God is bound by the laws of reality? If so, who created them?
Offcource Allah himself also bound by certain laws...He can't take human form or leave a children behind,Allah cannot kill himself, and on and on...atheist have a big list of "What Allah can't do".
But to me those are the Basic Norm that Allah follows, it's not that he can't but he won't.
Allah or Vagban whatever you call him He created ALL and to him we ALL will return.
I'm not talking about things that have no meaning "ie, God killing himself", I'm talking about the laws of nature.
If Allah is bounded by these laws of nature, does that mean that these laws of nature are more powerful than Allah? After all, not even He can overcome them.
That's your religion, not mine.
We Muslims know that Allah created the laws of reality, and is therefore, not bound by it. That includes gravity, cause-effect, etc.
So, if you acknowledge that Allah is not bound by the laws of nature, then why do you reject things we Muslims say *because* it goes against the laws of nature?
Allah do not change the laws of nature for anyone.
Sea was never divided for Moses(a), Jesus(a) didn't fly up to sky or Muhammed(pbuh) didn't split up the moon.
Read Quran: when people asked muhammed to perform a miracle Allah says (O muhammed) you are nothing but a human.
The Greatest man ever lived never performed a single miracle. But to save Jesus allah make him Superman, Sea divided into two different part just to save the bani Israel!
I have yet to delete any of your comments. But, I am considering blocking you, because you are not a coherent person. You're going from topic to topic, not answering questions, and insulting people.
Holy Quran is a testament of Allah Subhanna Thalaa
Allah is ALL powerful wise and mighty. Allah says in the Quran that he has set universal LAWS, and those laws he doesnt break.
Allah can do what he wants, but it would seem that ESA (as) is living in a bubble for 2000 years (Nauzobillah). In medical terms referred to as being quarantined. (ASTHAGFIRRULLAH) Allah is the most merciful and absolute just. Jesus (as) is in jannah spiritually and his physical body buried on earth.
Who and where is your Caliph now? The last know caliphate was overthrown and out rooted by British emperor; and two days back his last descendent died in NY.
That hadith itself showing its validity:) Come with better reference. There is specific reference of Imam Madhi(a) and return of Isa(a). Why you bypass those and dancing with self conflicting hadith!
Oh got it: Those hadiths are full of inconsistency:)
So tell me; which Hadith contradicts Ahmadiyyat.? There are Qur'anic verses showing you're conception about the fate Isa bin Maryam (as) is Kufr and false. Also, it is easy to show that your understanding of the Seal of Prophets is wrong. Your comments are too general to convince anyone, so if you wish to step into a debate, then please do so only properly. JazakAllah.
My religion is Islam. I pray, pay the Zakat, fast, and follow all the teachings of the Holy Qur'an, and I believe the Holy Prophet (saw) to be my Master. But oh, I forgot, in midst of all my efforts, I HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM YOU BEFORE I CAN CALL MYSELF MUSLIM. It is indeed hilarious. Concentrate on your faith, KNOW that there is no sin for accepting a false prophet, but vivid rejection and destruction by Allah if you disbelieve in a true one. Pray Allah may give you a sign regarding this.
Mirza Ghulam declared Muslims as disbelievers. I find it ironic that Ahmadis take that position.
I never call individual Ahmadis kaafir. I don't know what in their heart. I hope for the best for them. But, the religion of Ahmadism itself is Kufr. Many Ahmadis are only Ahmadi by name, but Muslim in reality. (ie, they don't believe in this Mirza Ghulam nonsense)
In other words, we criticize the religion, not the individuals.
Who is we anyway? You do not have a Jama'at. Who is your Imam, what is your organisation's structure, from where do they have their authority. Your sympathy is fake. I see no reason why anyone should take you as a guide in this matter. You lack real religious knowledge and put a very superficial facade of a Muslim scholar, which you are clearly not.
If you are referring to some sort of over-arching organization, you're right. But if you're referring to theological consistency, we Orthodox Muslims are more unified than the Ahmadis.
For example, the Ahmadis have multiple groups, sects, different ideas, etc: Lahori, Nigerian, Indonesian, Rafai-Group, Mauritius, Qadian group, etc.
We Muslims have a consistent theology around the entire world. You Ahmadis don't.
If you were take a Muslim, blind fold him, and put him in any orthodox Muslim country in the entire world, 99.99% of what they teach would be exactly the same.
However, if you go between two different Ahmadi centers, you'll see radically different teachings. Did you know Jama'at Muslimeen Ahmadiyya considers Mirza Masroor to be illegitimate? They literally cite Mirza Ghulam's works to prove their point.
you don't need our permission. what you need to do is see what you do contradicts many things in Islam. Pick what you want and ignore what you don't like; that's Islam according to you...
I've got experience from the Muslim community. Five weeks ago, the Imam of the Mosque in Mecca visited the Regent Street mosque in Britain. After the prayer, the women of that wonderful Jama'at forgot all sense of dignity and stormed to the men's side and began stroking and touching the Imam. One of the men there was outraged about this, but no one listened to him. What enlightened Jama'at you are indeed. Visit the Jalsa Salana to find out how real Muslims behave in their gatherings. Wassalam.
Isn't it your "Khalifah" who threatened to kick out women from the Jama'at who didn't wear the hijab because it was such a big problem?
I do not see that as a serious problem. I see that as a mistake by that innocent lady who should be politely and calmly explained the issue. If anything, that's a great opportunity for her to learn.
You just exposed yourself as a weak and unlearned Muslim. Indeed, the Holy Qur'an demands women to wear Hijab, and any women, who wants to be part of the true Islamic society, has to adhere to the teachings of the Holy Qur'an. Of course, in your Jama'at, where the Qur'an is not practiced, women wearning or not wearing Hijab makes no difference. How could it, when your women do not even adhere to the basic principles of chastity in the mosque! Again, what an enlightened Jama'at you are indeed.
No, I'm being forgiving of people. Everyone makes mistakes, and we overlook them (so long as they do not harm others)
In your religion, women outside of the temple do not wear the hijab. Even your top Mullah, Mirza Masroor, threatened to kick women out because the problem was so pervasive.
So, in effect, you're criticizing your own religion :-)
Not wearing the Hijab is not a mistake, my friend. It is rebellion. It is not for you to forgive people when Allah and the Messenger have reached a decision concerning a matter. Weak faith, again. Of course, I cannot discuss with you organisational matters, because you do not have a Jama'at, but you would be able to understand that with your attitude the standard of any Jama'at would drop, so much so that women may begin storming towards the Imam after prayer.
Accusations like the "Chanda goes to the Religous authorities" is baseless because you provide no factual evidence to prove your claim. Mere Heresy. Chanda in Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam is Multifaceted provided to many needs among the people. Not just the poor. Just as it was in the time of Hadhrat Umar (ra). Again please provide references to the information that you are getting from the Ahmadiyya. It is only fair. Not just references for your side. Ahmadiyya provides references to both.
Chanda is a Bid'ah. It was never required by the Prophet SAAWS, nor the earliest Muslims- purely an invented law by Mirza
The UK requires charity/religious organizations to release their financial information. I suggest you look up how much the Ahmadi community has horded.
you are right it is interesting...If you are Muslim like you claim to be than you dont need to advertise it....and as far as the ahmadiyat is concerned, we are all Muslims wether you accept it or not whether you want to believe it or not.....and when i said "all Ahmadi's say Ameen" that is a way of me differenciating us AHMADI MUSLIMS to you....oky like shiat, sunni, etc.
If you insist, but know that we Muslims will never consider you Ahmadis to be Muslims and your false prophet declared us to be kafireen. So it goes both ways.
I don't think people care much about who considers who to be a Muslim because at the end of the day, it only matters what Allah decrees. Man has no authority to make any judgments as such. The Prophet (sa) forbade it: "If a Muslim calls another a kafir, then if he is a kafir, let it be so otherwise he is himself a kafir." Sunan Abu Dawood, vol. 3, p. 484
And it seems that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad used that hadith essentially as a mirror to show the Muslim ummah what they themselves had become.
That does not address the point at hand. That is an entirely new discussion in and of itself. When you say "May Allah guide the Ahmadis to Islam," realize the weight behind those words. You are categorically calling every single Ahmadi Muslim a kafir by alleging that they are not following Islam now. Are you prepared to accept that burden of calling every Ahmadi a kafir and then being held accountable on the Day of Judgment for it? Even the Prophet (sa) would not call people kafir.
So why do you? Allah is Al-Hakam, He is the Judge. Heck, even Maududi, a huge opponent of Islam, said regarding kafir, "There is so much caution in this regard that if there is a man whose conduct clearly shows insincerity, and whose condition is openly showing that he is not a Muslim at heart, if even he recites the Kalima with his tongue, it is not allowed to call him kafir and treat him as a kafir. (Tarjuman al-Quran, issue for month of Jumadi al-Awwal, 1355 A.H., c. 1936, Vol. VIII, p. 5)
Lets suppose a person said "I do not believe Musa was a Muslim'. Lets suppose an entire group arose that said "We are the True Muslims, and part of our religion is that Musa is not a Prophet". Would you consider such a person a Muslim? I would not, because he is denying clear-cut ayaat and hadith.
Likewise, when the Ahmadis say "We are the True Muslims, but we believe in another prophet", despite all of the ayaat and ahadith in opposition to this point, we say "No, you are not Muslims"
He said that nobody becomes a kafir by rejecting his claim. He says that this would "certainly be in error and astray from the right path. I do not call him faithless but he who rejects the truth which God Almighty has disclosed to me would be in error and astray from the straight path. I do not designate anyone who believes in the Kalimah as a kafir, unless by rejecting me and calling me a kafir, he himself becomes a kafir." This final part reflects the hadith i related earleir.
You misunderstand. Are you lumping Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) in as a law-bearing prophet? As one who brought a new law like Musa (as) and Muhammad (sa)? If so, then that could be a reason as to your misunderstanding. He was a reformer prophet, he brought nothing new. All he did was revive Islam. Through reason, past prophecies, and divine help, he has established himself as the Imam Mahdi.
If that is part of their religion, then let them be. That is a matter between them and Allah. For them their religion, for us our religion.
Oh? There are many ayaat saying no more prophets are coming? Do share.
You believe an Imam Mahdi is prophecized to come, right? You believe that he will be appointed by Allah and not by man. You believe he will be the Imam for the whole universe. Are we on the same page?
Now tell me who in history had these qualities and wasn't a prophet.
There's no such thing as a law-bearing vs non-law-bearing distinction. Its a madeup concept. And Mirza madeup his own laws. Chanda is wajib upon Ahmadis, a law Mirza invented.
He is neither a reformer prophet, nor the mujaddid, nor krishna, nor imam mahdi, nor muhammad SAAWS nor 'Esa nor any of the other million attributes they assign to him.
The commandments upon us by the Prophet Muhammad SAAWS are legally binding. His words aren't suggestions, they're laws- Its not just the Qur'an. And, the Qur'an says that the prophets were not sent except to be obeyed.
Therefore, they're all "law-bearing" prophets. This Ahmadi distinction is a madeup distinction employed by Mirza.
Do you belive in Jinn? Do you all eat Halaal Meat? What's your interpretation of "seal"? do you all follow the authentic hadith? LOL you all so convinient; just taking what u need yet ignore that contradicts your fake prophet..
Just like the Ahmadis. They call Baha'i Allah a fake prophet...what's your point?
Do you deny all metaphysical? If not, ask yourself when the Ahmadi interpretation of the Jinn was invented. (That the Jinn are microscopic bacteria) Ours has been around since day 1.
Baha'i Allah !!! it's Baha'ullah. The point is simple: every "New" religion was denied by the previous one. But Ahmadiyya is a sect of Islam; not a "New" religion! We stand on the same platform regarding Babism/Baha'i religion :)
Jinn: Day 1 ! one Quranic word can be interpreted by many terms. Ahmed(a) explained about the Jinn a long time back. What you are refer is the interpretation of a hadith by Tahir Ahmed...he just tried to validate that specific hadith. Which I do not believe.
Now lets look at that hadith: Muhammed(pbuh) said do not come close to dried bones (sometime it's flesh) cause it's the food of the Jinn.
The common interpretation of Muslims are Jinn's are supernatural beings with demonic characteristic. What do you expect from Tahir ahmed? Go along with the flow! He proposed that perhaps Muhammed(pbuh) explained "Microorganism" by calling them Jinn ( for their Mythical "Invisible/unseen" characteristic). Got it?
The Prophet SAAWS talked about speaking with the Jinn, described how they look, at one point tied one, many other physical interactions. Do you deny those narrations? If so, how do you twist them to conform?
Also, do you reject Angels as magical, mythical, invisible creatures? What about God as a mythical, invisible, magical creature? If not, your logic is inconsistent.
Common Ahmadiyya belief regarding Jinn from Day 1: rebellious people, People who live in cave, people who use/ control "fire" unlike common people who use "Soil/Mud" for cultivation, skilled people then average human skill.
Read Quran and then Make fun with Admadiyya.
You are a primitive man living in USA. Sad indeed.
I state my point again. Iblees was prehistoric man but "Fire" was an essential part of their everyday life Hunting was the only way of having food. But Adam was from the race who used "Soil/mud" to cultivate and thus a new agricultural based society formed and give birth to civilization which based on Soil/Mud/Clay..from pottery to Pyramid.
That...doesn't make sense. the Qur'an doesn't say "He used fire to survive", it says he was created from fire. And even if that's the case, are you saying anyone who uses fire is a Jinn?
This has to be the strangest modernist interpretation I've ever heard.
What do you believe the Qareen are? (Those devils amongst the Jinn who are appointed from birth to follow a specific person) Are they people? If so, if you are alone, how are they with you?
Also, what is your interpretation of Angels, who are created from light? Are they a pre-historic race who used light?
Read sura Jinn. You will find my answer there; and if you wish then please use my perspective to interpret. Good luck.
If you Say there is a verse saying: "Those devils amongst the Jinn who are appointed from birth to follow a specific person" Then I must say you have problems with your religion or metal maturity.
Sooner or later this fake and old belief will fall apart. This is a promise from Allah.
And I answered about angels before please read that comment
Now to your Question: Jinn/ Human and Angels are different entity.I had explain what Jinn means But I do not have detail concept regarding Angels. But The basic principle and laws of nature described as certain angels. Like the angel of death (applied for all living things). Gravity,If you go higher Quantum mechanics with "M" theory,etc.
Remember Angels cannot do anything but only what Allah appointed them on.
Why do you say Jinns are Human beings, whereas Angels are actual angels? Or..do you believe they are a type of spiritual creature? You're inconsistent.
I did post my view on angels.If you have time then read those comments with open Mind.
I don't think I am Inconsistent but very clear with my definition. Since Allah sent us a specific sura named after JINN then it's my headache to understand and clarify it's Identity.
Ibleesh Claimed to be superior then Adam(a).
Angels never did...They even cannot think of their Own!
Read sura Al-Nas. 1] Say, I seek refuge in the Lord of MANKIND, 2] The King of MANKIND, 3] The Ellah of MANKIND, 4] From the evil of the sneaking whisperer. 5] Who whispers into the hearts of men, 6] From among the JINN and MANKIND. See the first 3 verses it's Allah and Mankind. Now read 4,5 and punch line-6 Here we can see the JINN. Well from 1-3 we can see it's all about MANKIND. Now judge Jinn is a particular characteristic of Human or another species? Seek truth!
Mirza Ghulam!!! Its Mirza Ghulam! He's the founder of Ahmadism, a religion loosely based off of Islam, just as Baha'i Allah started Baha'ism, loosely based off of Islam.
The only people who do not consider Ahmadism to be a new religion are Ahmadis themselves. Everyone else knows that Ahmadism is not Islam, its Ahmadism. (hence the name)
And even if , you're saying your prophet invented a new sect? Do you see how absurd that is?
Baha'i: They believe Bab and Baha'ullah both was more than prophet...Baha'ullah to them is both prophet and manifestation of god. they believe the whole Quran is abrogated.
They have different Belief/sariah/book.
And Baha'i is a new religion.
Ahmadiyya: who believe in a prophet who was under the sariah of Muhammed(pbuh) changed nothing...we do not follow any new book but the whole Quran.
Unlike you who believe more then 64 verses of Quran is Abrogated. :)
Well I do not believe those books as holy and flawless! Ahmed(a) was just a prophet like many other's passed away before him. Do you want me to believe Muhammed(pbuh) is lower rank then Ibrahim(a) and Moses(a)? and failed to generate a single holy person who can be ranked as prophet?
He was a Human and not above mistake.
Yes Indeed he received Wahi...didn't Quran confirms that? It's common for every religious person!
Could you please explain which law of Quran was changed in Canada?
No, spending in the way of Allah is when you give in addition to the Zakah you are required to give. Zakah goes to the poor and needy.
Chanda is a MANDATORY (emphasis on mandatory) payment. This payment does not go to the poor or needy, it goes to the Ahmadi religious authorities.
Yes, giving is good, but Allah or the Prophet SAAWS never mandated any givings, except Zakah. There's even a hadith that says "if all you give is zakah, you will be successful".
"Behold! You are those who are called to spend in the Cause of Allâh, yet among you are some who are niggardly. And whoever is niggardly, it is only at the expense of his ownself. But Allâh is Rich (Free of all wants), and you (mankind) are poor. And if you turn away (from Islâm and the obedience of Allâh), He will exchange you for some other people, and they will not be your likes." ----YOU HAVE BEEN REPLACED----
Khatim al-Nabiyyin (Khatim with the Kasra) means Muhammad SAAWS is the last Prophet.
Yes, we believe in Imam Mahdi and Mirza didn't fulfill many of the signs of Imam Mahdi. For example, Imam Mahdi is supposed take the Bay'ah at the Haram, but Mirza never even went Makkah!
hahahahahaha....seems like your little pet sitting next to you has not done much research as well... you are only wasting time by making such false videos....the sooner you understand the better...
I refer to myself as a Muslim. But isn't it funny how Ahmadis refer to THEMSELVES as "Ahmadis" instead of "Muslims"? As if they know they are not Muslims.
if Ahmadiya believe any thay want thats OK like other so many defferent religions but why thay call theselve is muslims and ingore the words of Allah whitch tells us in the holy Quran that prophet Mohammad(pbuh) is the seal of prophethood and final messenger and their will be no more prophet after Mohammad(pbuh)
I recently removed a comment by "yusup2" and subsequently blocked him. I did not do so because he is an Ahmadi, I did so because he insulted the Prophet Muhammad ASWS.
I do not delete ANY comments, unless they include curse words or insults towards Rasool Allahi SAWAWS
Very True, many of the Ahmadis grains of the truth we can follow and/or believe with out becoming Ahmadi, even if certain aspects are rejected by the mainstream Ummah. Such as Translating the Quran on a massive scale, Massive Dawah, Accepting the science of evolution. ect
just because Ahmadis revive their faith every year and are one and leave in peace . and because you do not belief in Ahmadi teaching does not mean we are wrong. and the only people you are gonna convert are does who do not know their left from their right.
Salam-alikum brother mashallah nice video could you please tell me the nasheed that is playing in the background it is beautiful mashallah ...peace be on you
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Time always tells the truth eventually. The person on this video has now rejected Islam.
panther1412 9 months ago
keep up the good work brothers. Mirza Ghulam Qadiani was a dajjal and it is sad that people are on the wrong path following this liar
TheMrpalid 11 months ago
So then who will be your Mahdi? When will he come?
EWLGtoday 1 year ago
@EWLGtoday His name is Muhammad ibn Abdullah, from the tribe of Qahtan, from Madinah. He is a member of the family of the Prophet SAAWS. He will be given the Bay'ah at the Ka'aba in Makkah
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You asked 'When will he come?'. No one knows the answer to that. But the true question is, what have you prepared for that time?
farhan00 1 year ago
Time always tells the truth eventually the person on this video has now rejected Islam.
panther1412 9 months ago in playlist Finality of Prophethood by Farhan00
@panther1412 Actually, he hasn't. I know him personally. He even says "I am a Muslim".
Why don't you join the many Ahmadis who embrace Islam?
farhan00 9 months ago
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Ahmedi brothers and sister please follow Quran...........please read these two surahs to understand the tricks HMGA played with the words of Allah.....surah 81and 75.
theonepointonly 1 year ago
Inshallah link your video by annotation or by posting each video under the video response section
wasalaam.
QuranTafseer 1 year ago
@TheUnkw0n
YES
but he is already a Prophet
let me make it simple for u
124000 prophets ESA(AS) was 123999 and Prophet (PUBH) 124000 so even if he return still he will remain 123999th
I hope this will help
xiaahmad 1 year ago
at Farhan 2 If some one was to be a Muslims belonging to which ever sect and then left and be came a christian or Hindu ...i will it mean that Islam is a false religion?
suburtahir 1 year ago
i have one question only to you Farhan are you waiting for Jesus(as) to come back?
YES OR NO will do
suburtahir 1 year ago
I would recommend all muslims and ahmadies to go through the series
its is really nice
and clearly expose the belief of ahmadies about continuity of Prophethood
xiaahmad 1 year ago
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I would love to know your view on the sunni belief that there will be a donkey with big ears involved in the war against non-muslims??????
waqarunited 1 year ago
I would love to know your view on the sunni belief that there will be a donkey with big ears involved in the war against non-muslims??????
waqarunited 1 year ago
@malika810 We're not against Ahmadis, we're against Ahmadism. Keep in mind, the dude on the right was born into an Ahmadi family.
btw, this was in response to a video series one of their jamia students made. May Allah guide him to Islam...
farhan00 1 year ago
This sura is proof of "NABI(S)" in the future tense.....which you should not have a problem understanding...very clear....just ponder on it for a bit!
[Nisa 4:69] And whoever obeys Allah and His Noble Messenger, will be with those upon whom Allah has bestowed grace - that is, the Prophets and the truthful and the martyrs and the virtuous; and what excellent companions they are!
md31shahid 1 year ago
@md31shahid I discuss this Ayah in one of the later videos and in my booklet. Just google "With Love to the Ahmadis of the World". Its chapter 1.
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00
SO.......with your limited view THERE WOULD BE NEED FOR PROPHECY IN JANNAH; and prophets for different groups of humans. That would be like earth; jannah is "SIMILAR" yet not the same brother.
md31shahid 1 year ago
Thus; a true Muslim can achieve any of the four status/rank mentioned in Quran.........but he must first be a Muslim; in order to achieve such a rank..... Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) was a simple and pure Muslim........all prophets were simple human beings who the world rejected when Allah blessed them with all the signs possible.....it is always the people who are mistaken brother......Allah is the all mighty and wise.......
ALLAH HAS CHOSEN HIM TO BE THE GUIDING LIGHT OF THIS DAY AND AGE!
md31shahid 1 year ago
This sura is proof of "NABI(S)" in the future tense.....which you should not have a problem understanding...very clear....just ponder on it for a bit!
[Nisa 4:69] And whoever obeys Allah and His Noble Messenger, will be with those upon whom Allah has bestowed grace - that is, the Prophets and the truthful and the martyrs and the virtuous; and what excellent companions they are!
md31shahid 1 year ago
This sura is proof of "NABI(S)" in the future tense.....which you should not have a problem understanding...very simple and clear....just ponder on it for a bit!
[Nisa 4:69] And whoever obeys Allah and His Noble Messenger, will be with those upon whom Allah has bestowed grace - that is, the Prophets and the truthful and the martyrs and the virtuous; and what excellent companions they are!
md31shahid 1 year ago
Wait, isn't that the tune to Hallelujah?
AdmiralPrice 1 year ago
Hadith mentioned below is proof that prophet for this Ummah will be from among the Ummah not a Israeli prophet
proofed truth of finality of prophet
zaheerift 1 year ago
p-2
Prophet Moses as requested that O God, appoint me a Prophet of this Ummah. Allāh said that their Prophet shall be from amongst them. Prophet Moses as again requested that then make me a member of this Ummah. Allāh said that you are before them and they shall be after you, but I shall join you in the House of My Majesty. (Al-Khasaisul Kubrā by Allamā Jalāluddin Al-Sayyūtī; & Nashr-ut-Tīb Fī Zikr-un-Nabī Alhabīb, by Ashraf Alī Thanvī)
zaheerift 1 year ago
Abu Na`eem related in Hulya from Anas ra that the Holy Prophet sa said that Allāh revealed to Prophet Moses as that I shall throw all those in hell who come to me in a state that they rejected Ahmad sa. Prophet Moses as asked, O God, who is Ahmad? Allāh said that he is the best amongst all the creatures and I wrote his name on throne before the creation of heaven and earth and none of my creatures can enter Paradise unless they become member of his Ummah.
cotinue p 2
zaheerift 1 year ago
[25:32] Thus did We make for every Prophet an enemy from among the sinners;
zaheerift 1 year ago
@zaheerift Mirza Ghulam is the enemy of the Prophet Muhammad SAAWS.
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00
one who try to proof any prophet liar, he is the enemy of prophets
zaheerift 1 year ago
@zaheerift Right. Therefore, Mirza Ghulam was the enemy of the prophets.
farhan00 1 year ago
@farhan00
do you get ilham, or you know unseen, or you liar
zaheerift 1 year ago
@farhan00
Actually rest of the Muslims blame The Promised Messiah (as) for over increasing The Prophet (sa) status/rank.
Well if loving the Prophet (sa) is a crime then I am most certainly a criminal. ;)
md31shahid 1 year ago
@md31shahid
please post something on topic
xiaahmad 1 year ago
@md31shahid
no we blame him to trying to hijack the status of Prophet Muhammad (PUBH) and try to claim that he is second advent of prophet naouzubillah
xiaahmad 1 year ago
@xiaahmad you have cetain things in your own mind which you choose to associate it with as Ahmadi Muslims.
you saw in the beginging of the video Farhan00 saoid he goes to alislam website why dont you go there rather than watching his videos or going on shahid website the cult?
suburtahir 1 year ago
@suburtahir
I do go
i even read MGA's book and also have read the scholars that ur jammat quote out of context.
and that prove even futher that ur Jammmat is liar.
like mullah Ali Qari, Ibn Arabi, Mulana Thanwi etc whom ur jammat try to quote all were firm believers in Khatam-e-Nabuwat so that prove it beyond any doubt that ahmadi jammat is not truthful
xiaahmad 1 year ago
@xiaahmad so if you know the source that means we are telling you the truth and there is nothing to lie about thats why you k now the source.
blinkerfatiha 1 year ago
@blinkerfatiha
Yes i know the source but please go and read them
they does not even says what ahmadiyya jammat try to tell
instead those sources confirms the finality of prophethood
xiaahmad 1 year ago
my reply for this video, in chiledhood l use to go to sunny masque, there ulama were like evils, they beat there students during teaching of HQ, and there studens learn them with that name of (molvi bakra), and when they speek about other sects of Islam they start abusing in mosques, on load speaker they teach islam as extream religion and teach the hater for fellow mankinds, and many more....
zaheerift 1 year ago
@zaheerift So, this is the typical 'dirty cave mullahs' attack.
Do you have anything substantive to say, or just ad hominems?
farhan00 1 year ago
Brother Farhan, i am trying to learn as much as i can about Islam and your vidoe's have been helpful in making sure i dont deviate from the right path. I have read all comments on all your vidoe's u have posted and respect u for being honest and polite to any responses, well done, may Allah help educate us and unite all true Muslims, may Allah guide those who have strayed back to the right path,,
Mbsz1 2 years ago
oh Jesus this is crazy seriously
look at the comments and look at the two guys in the video... anyway good luck to u ppl try ur best to explain to them there is no point but go ahead anyway
kkdahabibi 2 years ago
Just to add one note:
The music played first of your video is a copy of "Christians" song from"Jeff Buckley's- Hallelujah" It's a shame to see how You Muslims become "Moral" and "Intellectual" bankrupt.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Ironic, because I did not know that until you told me. How do YOU know that?
Why are Ahmadis always bringing up tangent arguments?
farhan00 2 years ago
btw, I ascribe to the Shafi'i maddhab, and it was the opinion of al-Ghazali, who was a Shafi'i scholar, that only certain kinds of music are haraam.
You should look into Husn al-Dhan (Good assumptions)
farhan00 2 years ago
Do you have knowledge about intellectual property? You are infact a thief when you use a stolen song...Which was "Hallelujah" to "la ilaha". It's a Clear sign from Allah to Pinpoint the Moral and Intellectual bankruptcy of Muslims. And You call this a "tangent arguments".
An educated Christian will laugh to see how you try to validate a simple copyright theft .
Moreover you bring Imam Ghazalis Viewpoint on Music. Shall I cry or what?
javedmahmood 2 years ago
You aren't making any sense. You're going form topic to topic, without a central point, and throw out insults left and right. In one of your messages, you rejected Miracles. I left it as-is, without commenting. I want people to read that.
I really don't see what "Ya Ilahi" has to do with Ahmadism, or why you would even feel its important to bring up. Or why you would say "Shall I cry or what?"
I'm having trouble having a consistent conversation with you.
farhan00 2 years ago
No I didn't. Read my comment's!
--There is No such Miracle which breaks or bend the laws of nature --
Why then I bring the stolen song topic?
1] Well the stolen song "Ya Ilahi" is a copy of "Hallelujah" which I found quite disturbing in a religious channel.
2]But my major intention was to check your mindset. How you think and justify a crime. And I saw how you debate on such a silly topic...Now tell me "How can I expect you to believe my interpretation of JINN".
Got it?
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Again, I don't see the reason to bring up such topics. Your comments are increasingly hostile and incoherent.
1 more, and I will block you - but i'd like them to remain because it exposes a lot about Ahmadism.
farhan00 2 years ago
Javed
Jin the firey ppl?
xiaahmad 2 years ago
xiaahmad
I posted my comments. Read those.
But I think it's better to ask farhan00 for his perspective of Jinn.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
I believe al-Jinn are as the Qur'an and Sunnah describe them. They are another type of creation, just like humanity, that live. Some are Muslims, some are Kafireen. We are not able to see them (except a few).
In Ahmadism, Jinn are bacteria. So, Surah al-Jinn refers to bacteria that heard the Qur'an...
farhan00 2 years ago
farhano_0
"In Ahmadism, Jinn are bacteria"
Don't you have any fear of Allah?
Why do you provide the half truth. One of the interpretation of Jinn is "Hidden entity" Which you admit as your belief also. And Mirza Tahair ahmed Explain a simple hadith based on that. He just used that spacific term to explain the Hadith...or do you believe Muslim Jinn also eat Dried bones!
Jinn are nothing but human.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Sahih Bukhārī Volume 4 Book 56
Narrated Abū Huraira
The Prophet said "The Israelis used to be ruled and guided by prophets: Whenever a prophet died another would take over his place. There will be no prophet after me, but there will be Caliphs who will
farhan00 2 years ago
increase in number" The people asked "Allah's Apostle! What do you order us?" He said, "Obey the one who will be given the pledge of allegiance first. Fulfill their (i.e. the Caliphs) rights for Allah will ask them about in ruling those Allah has put under their guardianship"
farhan00 2 years ago
Javed,
No, we do not believe in other prophets. But the testification of the greatness of the Prophet Muhammad SAAWS is not prophets coming in this nation. Instead, it is that another prophet ('Esa bin Maryam (AS)) will pray behind the Ummati of Muhammad SAAWS.
Second, you've now admitted that you believe in other divinely revealed, holy books OTHER than the the Qur'an. This is exactly what the Baha'i believe.
farhan00 2 years ago
Farhan 0_O
You believe Esa/Jesus(a) will return from some dimension, heaven whatever... But look at Quran: it's very clear that he died.
And you know that very well. But you try to ignore those verses for your own mediaeval religious dogma.
Come to light understand the basic principal of nature. There is no Miracle. No supernatural activity going on. Face the fact.
Religion makes life easy.
Don't mix religion with some supernatural mishmash-one day this will fall on you.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
You believe 'Esa bin Maryam (AS) survived the cross, based on the Bible, even though the Bible says he died, and then died in Galilee...or Jerusalem...or Syria...or Kashmir (According to Mirza, God changed his mind)
You reject the concept of miracles. You are the first Ahmadi to openly declare that instead of beating around the bush.
Do you believe God is bound by the laws of reality? If so, who created them?
farhan00 2 years ago
Offcource Allah himself also bound by certain laws...He can't take human form or leave a children behind,Allah cannot kill himself, and on and on...atheist have a big list of "What Allah can't do".
But to me those are the Basic Norm that Allah follows, it's not that he can't but he won't.
Allah or Vagban whatever you call him He created ALL and to him we ALL will return.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
I'm not talking about things that have no meaning "ie, God killing himself", I'm talking about the laws of nature.
If Allah is bounded by these laws of nature, does that mean that these laws of nature are more powerful than Allah? After all, not even He can overcome them.
That's your religion, not mine.
We Muslims know that Allah created the laws of reality, and is therefore, not bound by it. That includes gravity, cause-effect, etc.
farhan00 2 years ago
DEATH is a LAW OF NATURE, So as having children,...Why you don't understand this simple concept .
Yes Allah Created these Laws for himself ...He's above death,sleep, or creating another god.
I never said he can't overcome them all I stated is HE WILL NOT.
Allah is not bound by this universal laws of nature. Gravity, or sucked by Black hole Does not apply to almighty.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
So, if you acknowledge that Allah is not bound by the laws of nature, then why do you reject things we Muslims say *because* it goes against the laws of nature?
Do you see the inconsistency?
farhan00 2 years ago
Allah do not change the laws of nature for anyone.
Sea was never divided for Moses(a), Jesus(a) didn't fly up to sky or Muhammed(pbuh) didn't split up the moon.
Read Quran: when people asked muhammed to perform a miracle Allah says (O muhammed) you are nothing but a human.
The Greatest man ever lived never performed a single miracle. But to save Jesus allah make him Superman, Sea divided into two different part just to save the bani Israel!
No miracle. Only Quran.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Give me a simple yes or no:
Do you believe in miracles? (ie, occurrences that break with the laws of nature)
[I will delete any extraneous commentary]
farhan00 2 years ago
No!
I do not believe in such Miracle which is opposite of the law's of nature. I said this for several times.
But I do believe in such miracle which occur within the natural law.
Funny but relative example: Like the "stolen" song you played "Hallelujah" is in youtube and right below your video.
Which apparently you said "didn't notice" :)
I know You have deleted many of my comments...I know what you people fear.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
I have yet to delete any of your comments. But, I am considering blocking you, because you are not a coherent person. You're going from topic to topic, not answering questions, and insulting people.
farhan00 2 years ago
My question: Do you believe in miracles:
Your answer: No!
This further proves that Ahmadis are a modern incarnation of Mu'tazalites
farhan00 2 years ago
block the guy who insults, some people never learn.
Oneforthe99 2 years ago
@farhan00
Holy Quran is a testament of Allah Subhanna Thalaa
Allah is ALL powerful wise and mighty. Allah says in the Quran that he has set universal LAWS, and those laws he doesnt break.
Allah can do what he wants, but it would seem that ESA (as) is living in a bubble for 2000 years (Nauzobillah). In medical terms referred to as being quarantined. (ASTHAGFIRRULLAH) Allah is the most merciful and absolute just. Jesus (as) is in jannah spiritually and his physical body buried on earth.
md31shahid 1 year ago
@farhan00
THE BIBLE ITSELF IS PROOF OF HIS SURVIVING THE CRUCIFICTION AND NOT PHYSICAL ASSENTION.
Some on here said the bible states otherwise.
md31shahid 1 year ago
Who and where is your Caliph now? The last know caliphate was overthrown and out rooted by British emperor; and two days back his last descendent died in NY.
That hadith itself showing its validity:) Come with better reference. There is specific reference of Imam Madhi(a) and return of Isa(a). Why you bypass those and dancing with self conflicting hadith!
Oh got it: Those hadiths are full of inconsistency:)
javedmahmood 2 years ago
It amazes me so much Ahmadis would quote hadith, but yet all the hadith that proves their religion is false they igore...
xplosivelilly 2 years ago
So tell me; which Hadith contradicts Ahmadiyyat.? There are Qur'anic verses showing you're conception about the fate Isa bin Maryam (as) is Kufr and false. Also, it is easy to show that your understanding of the Seal of Prophets is wrong. Your comments are too general to convince anyone, so if you wish to step into a debate, then please do so only properly. JazakAllah.
NK2008 2 years ago 2
My religion is Islam. I pray, pay the Zakat, fast, and follow all the teachings of the Holy Qur'an, and I believe the Holy Prophet (saw) to be my Master. But oh, I forgot, in midst of all my efforts, I HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM YOU BEFORE I CAN CALL MYSELF MUSLIM. It is indeed hilarious. Concentrate on your faith, KNOW that there is no sin for accepting a false prophet, but vivid rejection and destruction by Allah if you disbelieve in a true one. Pray Allah may give you a sign regarding this.
NK2008 2 years ago
Mirza Ghulam declared Muslims as disbelievers. I find it ironic that Ahmadis take that position.
I never call individual Ahmadis kaafir. I don't know what in their heart. I hope for the best for them. But, the religion of Ahmadism itself is Kufr. Many Ahmadis are only Ahmadi by name, but Muslim in reality. (ie, they don't believe in this Mirza Ghulam nonsense)
In other words, we criticize the religion, not the individuals.
farhan00 2 years ago
Who is we anyway? You do not have a Jama'at. Who is your Imam, what is your organisation's structure, from where do they have their authority. Your sympathy is fake. I see no reason why anyone should take you as a guide in this matter. You lack real religious knowledge and put a very superficial facade of a Muslim scholar, which you are clearly not.
NK2008 2 years ago
If you are referring to some sort of over-arching organization, you're right. But if you're referring to theological consistency, we Orthodox Muslims are more unified than the Ahmadis.
For example, the Ahmadis have multiple groups, sects, different ideas, etc: Lahori, Nigerian, Indonesian, Rafai-Group, Mauritius, Qadian group, etc.
We Muslims have a consistent theology around the entire world. You Ahmadis don't.
farhan00 2 years ago
If you were take a Muslim, blind fold him, and put him in any orthodox Muslim country in the entire world, 99.99% of what they teach would be exactly the same.
However, if you go between two different Ahmadi centers, you'll see radically different teachings. Did you know Jama'at Muslimeen Ahmadiyya considers Mirza Masroor to be illegitimate? They literally cite Mirza Ghulam's works to prove their point.
May Allah guide you to Islam.
farhan00 2 years ago
you don't need our permission. what you need to do is see what you do contradicts many things in Islam. Pick what you want and ignore what you don't like; that's Islam according to you...
xplosivelilly 2 years ago
I've got experience from the Muslim community. Five weeks ago, the Imam of the Mosque in Mecca visited the Regent Street mosque in Britain. After the prayer, the women of that wonderful Jama'at forgot all sense of dignity and stormed to the men's side and began stroking and touching the Imam. One of the men there was outraged about this, but no one listened to him. What enlightened Jama'at you are indeed. Visit the Jalsa Salana to find out how real Muslims behave in their gatherings. Wassalam.
NK2008 2 years ago
Isn't it your "Khalifah" who threatened to kick out women from the Jama'at who didn't wear the hijab because it was such a big problem?
I do not see that as a serious problem. I see that as a mistake by that innocent lady who should be politely and calmly explained the issue. If anything, that's a great opportunity for her to learn.
farhan00 2 years ago
You just exposed yourself as a weak and unlearned Muslim. Indeed, the Holy Qur'an demands women to wear Hijab, and any women, who wants to be part of the true Islamic society, has to adhere to the teachings of the Holy Qur'an. Of course, in your Jama'at, where the Qur'an is not practiced, women wearning or not wearing Hijab makes no difference. How could it, when your women do not even adhere to the basic principles of chastity in the mosque! Again, what an enlightened Jama'at you are indeed.
NK2008 2 years ago
No, I'm being forgiving of people. Everyone makes mistakes, and we overlook them (so long as they do not harm others)
In your religion, women outside of the temple do not wear the hijab. Even your top Mullah, Mirza Masroor, threatened to kick women out because the problem was so pervasive.
So, in effect, you're criticizing your own religion :-)
farhan00 2 years ago
Not wearing the Hijab is not a mistake, my friend. It is rebellion. It is not for you to forgive people when Allah and the Messenger have reached a decision concerning a matter. Weak faith, again. Of course, I cannot discuss with you organisational matters, because you do not have a Jama'at, but you would be able to understand that with your attitude the standard of any Jama'at would drop, so much so that women may begin storming towards the Imam after prayer.
NK2008 2 years ago
No, there's a difference between a mistake/sin and rebellion.
Rebellion is when you say 'In Islam, the Hijab is not wajib'. A mistake/sin is not wearing it out of fear or social pressure or nafs.
We forgive the Sin and Chastise the rebellion.
Ironically, Ahmadi women are largely uncovered.
farhan00 2 years ago
Accusations like the "Chanda goes to the Religous authorities" is baseless because you provide no factual evidence to prove your claim. Mere Heresy. Chanda in Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam is Multifaceted provided to many needs among the people. Not just the poor. Just as it was in the time of Hadhrat Umar (ra). Again please provide references to the information that you are getting from the Ahmadiyya. It is only fair. Not just references for your side. Ahmadiyya provides references to both.
TheLaugh2009 2 years ago
Chanda is a Bid'ah. It was never required by the Prophet SAAWS, nor the earliest Muslims- purely an invented law by Mirza
The UK requires charity/religious organizations to release their financial information. I suggest you look up how much the Ahmadi community has horded.
farhan00 2 years ago
SHREK - HALLELUJAH!!! That's the tune!
tahbit 2 years ago
It is just pitiable how the melody of the arabic song at the beginning is copied one to one from the song "let it be".
Adherer 2 years ago
you are right it is interesting...If you are Muslim like you claim to be than you dont need to advertise it....and as far as the ahmadiyat is concerned, we are all Muslims wether you accept it or not whether you want to believe it or not.....and when i said "all Ahmadi's say Ameen" that is a way of me differenciating us AHMADI MUSLIMS to you....oky like shiat, sunni, etc.
My IDENTITY......
when is your book coming out??
ahmadimuslim22 3 years ago
If you insist, but know that we Muslims will never consider you Ahmadis to be Muslims and your false prophet declared us to be kafireen. So it goes both ways.
My book will come out when Allah decrees it to.
farhan00 3 years ago
I don't think people care much about who considers who to be a Muslim because at the end of the day, it only matters what Allah decrees. Man has no authority to make any judgments as such. The Prophet (sa) forbade it: "If a Muslim calls another a kafir, then if he is a kafir, let it be so otherwise he is himself a kafir." Sunan Abu Dawood, vol. 3, p. 484
And it seems that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad used that hadith essentially as a mirror to show the Muslim ummah what they themselves had become.
salaamthebody 3 years ago
Abu Dawood also says the Mahdi will seek refuge in Makkah after fleeing Madinah.
But...MGA never even went to either cities.
May Allah guide the Ahmadis to Islam.
farhan00 3 years ago
That does not address the point at hand. That is an entirely new discussion in and of itself. When you say "May Allah guide the Ahmadis to Islam," realize the weight behind those words. You are categorically calling every single Ahmadi Muslim a kafir by alleging that they are not following Islam now. Are you prepared to accept that burden of calling every Ahmadi a kafir and then being held accountable on the Day of Judgment for it? Even the Prophet (sa) would not call people kafir.
salaamthebody 3 years ago
So why do you? Allah is Al-Hakam, He is the Judge. Heck, even Maududi, a huge opponent of Islam, said regarding kafir, "There is so much caution in this regard that if there is a man whose conduct clearly shows insincerity, and whose condition is openly showing that he is not a Muslim at heart, if even he recites the Kalima with his tongue, it is not allowed to call him kafir and treat him as a kafir. (Tarjuman al-Quran, issue for month of Jumadi al-Awwal, 1355 A.H., c. 1936, Vol. VIII, p. 5)
salaamthebody 3 years ago
Lets suppose a person said "I do not believe Musa was a Muslim'. Lets suppose an entire group arose that said "We are the True Muslims, and part of our religion is that Musa is not a Prophet". Would you consider such a person a Muslim? I would not, because he is denying clear-cut ayaat and hadith.
Likewise, when the Ahmadis say "We are the True Muslims, but we believe in another prophet", despite all of the ayaat and ahadith in opposition to this point, we say "No, you are not Muslims"
farhan00 3 years ago
You can't go by rhetoric and emotion, we have to look at the evidences. Mirza claimed he was a Prophet and Ahmadis adhere to that false claim.
Belief in additional prophets, just like the rejection of prophets, is one such belief that takes its followers out of the fold of Islam.
May Allah guide the Ahmadis to Islam.
farhan00 3 years ago
btw, Mirza himself called Muslims who do not accept him "disbelievers"
farhan00 3 years ago
He said that nobody becomes a kafir by rejecting his claim. He says that this would "certainly be in error and astray from the right path. I do not call him faithless but he who rejects the truth which God Almighty has disclosed to me would be in error and astray from the straight path. I do not designate anyone who believes in the Kalimah as a kafir, unless by rejecting me and calling me a kafir, he himself becomes a kafir." This final part reflects the hadith i related earleir.
salaamthebody 3 years ago
You misunderstand. Are you lumping Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) in as a law-bearing prophet? As one who brought a new law like Musa (as) and Muhammad (sa)? If so, then that could be a reason as to your misunderstanding. He was a reformer prophet, he brought nothing new. All he did was revive Islam. Through reason, past prophecies, and divine help, he has established himself as the Imam Mahdi.
salaamthebody 3 years ago
If that is part of their religion, then let them be. That is a matter between them and Allah. For them their religion, for us our religion.
Oh? There are many ayaat saying no more prophets are coming? Do share.
You believe an Imam Mahdi is prophecized to come, right? You believe that he will be appointed by Allah and not by man. You believe he will be the Imam for the whole universe. Are we on the same page?
Now tell me who in history had these qualities and wasn't a prophet.
salaamthebody 3 years ago
There's no such thing as a law-bearing vs non-law-bearing distinction. Its a madeup concept. And Mirza madeup his own laws. Chanda is wajib upon Ahmadis, a law Mirza invented.
He is neither a reformer prophet, nor the mujaddid, nor krishna, nor imam mahdi, nor muhammad SAAWS nor 'Esa nor any of the other million attributes they assign to him.
farhan00 3 years ago
So tell me, what new law did Hazrat Isa (as) bring? Daud(as), Sulemon(as), Yusef (as), Yaqoob(as)? And what about Elias (as) and Danyal (as)?
salaamthebody 2 years ago
The commandments upon us by the Prophet Muhammad SAAWS are legally binding. His words aren't suggestions, they're laws- Its not just the Qur'an. And, the Qur'an says that the prophets were not sent except to be obeyed.
Therefore, they're all "law-bearing" prophets. This Ahmadi distinction is a madeup distinction employed by Mirza.
farhan00 2 years ago
if a Man/woman says and believe
1.There is No god but Allah and Muhammed is the messenger of Allah.
2. Pray five times a day
3. pay Zakat
4. fast in Ramadan
5. believe in angels
6. believe in previous scriptures
7. believe and obey Sunnah of Muhammed(pbuh) and four khaliph.
But also believe there will be prophet/s after Muhammed but NOT with a new law or book but only to resolve the dispute and explain Quran.
NOW - HOW COME YOU CALL HIM/HER NON MUSLIM? Show ref: from Quran.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
anyone who contradicts the Quran is a non Muslim.
Do you belive in Jinn? Do you all eat Halaal Meat? What's your interpretation of "seal"? do you all follow the authentic hadith? LOL you all so convinient; just taking what u need yet ignore that contradicts your fake prophet..
xplosivelilly 2 years ago
Same argument goes for Christians>Muslims relationship. They also call Muhammed a Fake prophet :)
1 There is no Jinn as you think of...which is nothing but a fairy tale.Continued before Islam.
2 No I do not eat all Halal meat...I dislike Red meat. And I do not eat Wheal meat :) or any Sting ray or jelly fish:) Read Quran.
3 A.H and SEAL is nothing to me until it's provide sufficient peace in my Moral and social life.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Just like the Ahmadis. They call Baha'i Allah a fake prophet...what's your point?
Do you deny all metaphysical? If not, ask yourself when the Ahmadi interpretation of the Jinn was invented. (That the Jinn are microscopic bacteria) Ours has been around since day 1.
farhan00 2 years ago
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Baha'i Allah !!! it's Baha'ullah. The point is simple: every "New" religion was denied by the previous one. But Ahmadiyya is a sect of Islam; not a "New" religion! We stand on the same platform regarding Babism/Baha'i religion :)
Jinn: Day 1 ! one Quranic word can be interpreted by many terms. Ahmed(a) explained about the Jinn a long time back. What you are refer is the interpretation of a hadith by Tahir Ahmed...he just tried to validate that specific hadith. Which I do not believe.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
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Now lets look at that hadith: Muhammed(pbuh) said do not come close to dried bones (sometime it's flesh) cause it's the food of the Jinn.
The common interpretation of Muslims are Jinn's are supernatural beings with demonic characteristic. What do you expect from Tahir ahmed? Go along with the flow! He proposed that perhaps Muhammed(pbuh) explained "Microorganism" by calling them Jinn ( for their Mythical "Invisible/unseen" characteristic). Got it?
javedmahmood 2 years ago
The Prophet SAAWS talked about speaking with the Jinn, described how they look, at one point tied one, many other physical interactions. Do you deny those narrations? If so, how do you twist them to conform?
Also, do you reject Angels as magical, mythical, invisible creatures? What about God as a mythical, invisible, magical creature? If not, your logic is inconsistent.
farhan00 2 years ago
For me Allah and Angels are not same. I hope same goes for you.
Do not Mix up with fact with fiction Just to validate your Mythical being Jinn. Come to logic and Try to validate you belief
Allah is above logic...do not bring Allah and Jinn in same platform.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Your reasoning for rejecting the traditional understanding of al-Jinn is because you call them "mythical".
Its not about "do not bring Allah and Jinn in same platform", its about your logic. But fine, lets talk about Angels.
Why do you reject al-Jinn, but not al-Malaaikah? Shouldn't you say angels are mythical too?
farhan00 2 years ago
Angels: I cannot explain with my limited knowledge. But the laws of nature can be explained as certain angels.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
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Common Ahmadiyya belief regarding Jinn from Day 1: rebellious people, People who live in cave, people who use/ control "fire" unlike common people who use "Soil/Mud" for cultivation, skilled people then average human skill.
Read Quran and then Make fun with Admadiyya.
You are a primitive man living in USA. Sad indeed.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
We Muslims do believe that there are Shayateen from al-Nass (humanity).
Who do you believe Iblees was?
farhan00 2 years ago
Prehistoric Human. One individual of Early human race who used "fire" for existence
(roast meat/keep warm/keep away dangerous animals...and more)
Read some history of your race! My god!
javedmahmood 2 years ago
What differentiates Iblees from Adam, at a biological level?
farhan00 2 years ago
I state my point again. Iblees was prehistoric man but "Fire" was an essential part of their everyday life Hunting was the only way of having food. But Adam was from the race who used "Soil/mud" to cultivate and thus a new agricultural based society formed and give birth to civilization which based on Soil/Mud/Clay..from pottery to Pyramid.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
That...doesn't make sense. the Qur'an doesn't say "He used fire to survive", it says he was created from fire. And even if that's the case, are you saying anyone who uses fire is a Jinn?
This has to be the strangest modernist interpretation I've ever heard.
farhan00 2 years ago
What do you believe the Qareen are? (Those devils amongst the Jinn who are appointed from birth to follow a specific person) Are they people? If so, if you are alone, how are they with you?
Also, what is your interpretation of Angels, who are created from light? Are they a pre-historic race who used light?
Please do share :-)
farhan00 2 years ago
Read sura Jinn. You will find my answer there; and if you wish then please use my perspective to interpret. Good luck.
If you Say there is a verse saying: "Those devils amongst the Jinn who are appointed from birth to follow a specific person" Then I must say you have problems with your religion or metal maturity.
Sooner or later this fake and old belief will fall apart. This is a promise from Allah.
And I answered about angels before please read that comment
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Now you're just being insulting.
Where did you answer the question about the Angels? You just said they are different than the Jinn.
farhan00 2 years ago
Sorry for that...As I said Couldn't resist:)
Forgive me.
Now to your Question: Jinn/ Human and Angels are different entity.I had explain what Jinn means But I do not have detail concept regarding Angels. But The basic principle and laws of nature described as certain angels. Like the angel of death (applied for all living things). Gravity,If you go higher Quantum mechanics with "M" theory,etc.
Remember Angels cannot do anything but only what Allah appointed them on.
Allah knows the best.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
You aren't answering my question.
Why do you say Jinns are Human beings, whereas Angels are actual angels? Or..do you believe they are a type of spiritual creature? You're inconsistent.
farhan00 2 years ago
I did post my view on angels.If you have time then read those comments with open Mind.
I don't think I am Inconsistent but very clear with my definition. Since Allah sent us a specific sura named after JINN then it's my headache to understand and clarify it's Identity.
Ibleesh Claimed to be superior then Adam(a).
Angels never did...They even cannot think of their Own!
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Quran also says Adam is made of clay.
Check your body O children of Adam are you made of Clay/mud/soil/dust ? Nay verily you are in darkness, thou you know not. :)
Sorry can't resist man.
What a strange world you live in: Your comment and I Quote
are you saying anyone who uses fire is a Jinn?
No. I can assure you when you light up a cigarette or cook birianni you are still a Human.
Read my comment with sincerity try to understand.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
....what?
You didn't answer any of my question and just threw out insults.
farhan00 2 years ago
javedmahmood 2 years ago
I don't see your point at all
From the Jinn AND Mankind
So, they are separate beings. Had they been the same, there would be no reason to make a distinction.
(btw, I do acknowledge that some of the Shayateen are ordinary people)
farhan00 2 years ago
Don't see my point from Sura al-Nas?
Well first 3 verses Allah is saying he is the Lord of Mankind, then King of Mankind,and Ellah(god) of Mankind.
My Question is if JINN is a separate beings then Why Allah didn't said
Lord of mankind and Jinn, King of Mankind and Jinn, Ellah of Mankind and Jinn - in this specific Sura?
Quran is a Clear book which eradicate false Idea and establish truth.
javedmahmood 2 years ago
You did not make a point about Surah al-Nas -> You just asked a question
Either way, the Surah say "amongst the Jinn AND the Naas", showing that they are two separate beings.
You proved yourself wrong.
farhan00 2 years ago
If it is just characteristic of humans
then 6th verse means From among Mankind and Mankind
xiaahmad 2 years ago
Mirza Ghulam!!! Its Mirza Ghulam! He's the founder of Ahmadism, a religion loosely based off of Islam, just as Baha'i Allah started Baha'ism, loosely based off of Islam.
farhan00 2 years ago
You know nothing of the birth of Baha'i and Islam. :)
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Mirza Ghulam! Its Mirza Ghulam!
The only people who do not consider Ahmadism to be a new religion are Ahmadis themselves. Everyone else knows that Ahmadism is not Islam, its Ahmadism. (hence the name)
And even if , you're saying your prophet invented a new sect? Do you see how absurd that is?
farhan00 2 years ago
Baha'i: They believe Bab and Baha'ullah both was more than prophet...Baha'ullah to them is both prophet and manifestation of god. they believe the whole Quran is abrogated.
They have different Belief/sariah/book.
And Baha'i is a new religion.
Ahmadiyya: who believe in a prophet who was under the sariah of Muhammed(pbuh) changed nothing...we do not follow any new book but the whole Quran.
Unlike you who believe more then 64 verses of Quran is Abrogated. :)
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Ahmadis have their own books too! Roohani Khuzain is an entirely new book that Ahmadis believe was divinely inspired.
Ahmadis literally believe Mirza Ghulam received Wahi (revelation) form Allah just like the Qur'an was Wahi to the Prophet Muhammad SAAWS.
And yes, Ahmadis DID change the Shari'ah. That's why you have things like Chanda- a new law.
farhan00 2 years ago
Well I do not believe those books as holy and flawless! Ahmed(a) was just a prophet like many other's passed away before him. Do you want me to believe Muhammed(pbuh) is lower rank then Ibrahim(a) and Moses(a)? and failed to generate a single holy person who can be ranked as prophet?
He was a Human and not above mistake.
Yes Indeed he received Wahi...didn't Quran confirms that? It's common for every religious person!
Could you please explain which law of Quran was changed in Canada?
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Quran says: Spent in the way of Allah which you call "CHANDA" did he reveled Quran? Sometimes you pass the limit of your religion.
You Guru's can't even explain Quran...and your Arab masters took Islam to pre-Islamic stage...But still they are in correct path!
javedmahmood 2 years ago
No, spending in the way of Allah is when you give in addition to the Zakah you are required to give. Zakah goes to the poor and needy.
Chanda is a MANDATORY (emphasis on mandatory) payment. This payment does not go to the poor or needy, it goes to the Ahmadi religious authorities.
Yes, giving is good, but Allah or the Prophet SAAWS never mandated any givings, except Zakah. There's even a hadith that says "if all you give is zakah, you will be successful".
farhan00 2 years ago
Look how Quran answer your alligation:
Sura Muhammed verse 38.
"Behold! You are those who are called to spend in the Cause of Allâh, yet among you are some who are niggardly. And whoever is niggardly, it is only at the expense of his ownself. But Allâh is Rich (Free of all wants), and you (mankind) are poor. And if you turn away (from Islâm and the obedience of Allâh), He will exchange you for some other people, and they will not be your likes." ----YOU HAVE BEEN REPLACED----
javedmahmood 2 years ago
Khatim al-Nabiyyin (Khatim with the Kasra) means Muhammad SAAWS is the last Prophet.
Yes, we believe in Imam Mahdi and Mirza didn't fulfill many of the signs of Imam Mahdi. For example, Imam Mahdi is supposed take the Bay'ah at the Haram, but Mirza never even went Makkah!
farhan00 3 years ago
you should watch my videos, because many of the points you're bringing up have already been addressed in these videos
farhan00 3 years ago
Knock out argument right there.
NK2008 2 years ago
hahahahahaha....seems like your little pet sitting next to you has not done much research as well... you are only wasting time by making such false videos....the sooner you understand the better...
all ahmadi's say ameen....
ahmadimuslim22 3 years ago
"all Ahmadi's say ameen"
I refer to myself as a Muslim. But isn't it funny how Ahmadis refer to THEMSELVES as "Ahmadis" instead of "Muslims"? As if they know they are not Muslims.
Interesting
farhan00 3 years ago
if Ahmadiya believe any thay want thats OK like other so many defferent religions but why thay call theselve is muslims and ingore the words of Allah whitch tells us in the holy Quran that prophet Mohammad(pbuh) is the seal of prophethood and final messenger and their will be no more prophet after Mohammad(pbuh)
iatajik 3 years ago
Eman does not beg of Kufr.
farhan00 3 years ago
I recently removed a comment by "yusup2" and subsequently blocked him. I did not do so because he is an Ahmadi, I did so because he insulted the Prophet Muhammad ASWS.
I do not delete ANY comments, unless they include curse words or insults towards Rasool Allahi SAWAWS
farhan00 3 years ago
Thank you brother. Its a little scary, but I actually almost became an Ahmadiyya about 8 months ago. I thank Allah(SWT) for saving me.
Crunchybear1 3 years ago 3
I considered it for a while too. Their arguments appear VERY strong on the surface.
farhan00 3 years ago
Very True, many of the Ahmadis grains of the truth we can follow and/or believe with out becoming Ahmadi, even if certain aspects are rejected by the mainstream Ummah. Such as Translating the Quran on a massive scale, Massive Dawah, Accepting the science of evolution. ect
Salaam
Crunchybear1 3 years ago
instead of argument just look at how MGA was and person cannot become Ahmadi
considering kind of stuff he said
xiaahmad1 3 years ago
if i do sound rude on any of my comment i dont mean to ok is just a disscussion .take care peace
blinkerfatiha 3 years ago
You're not sounding rude at all. As I've always always always said, Ahmadis are NOT bad people, but their religion, Ahmadiyya, is misguidance.
farhan00 3 years ago
just because Ahmadis revive their faith every year and are one and leave in peace . and because you do not belief in Ahmadi teaching does not mean we are wrong. and the only people you are gonna convert are does who do not know their left from their right.
blinkerfatiha 3 years ago
hallelujah...
well your faith was strong but you needed proof
you saw her bathing on the roof
her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
she tied you to her kitchen chair
she broke your throne and she cut your hair
and from your lips she drew the hallelujah
thats the tune you used.
blinkerfatiha 3 years ago
I guess you listen to Jeff Buckley?
FYI, that's a reference to a Biblical story about Dovid alov ha'shalom.
farhan00 3 years ago
as i started watching this and reading i just started laughing you guys are really funny. how much money do they pay you?lol
blinkerfatiha 3 years ago
Mirza Ghulam himself translated the word as Last prophet.
I got the video on my original channel:
xiaahmad on that topic proving frm mirza's own writings that what that word means
xiaahmad1 3 years ago
bro plz link the video like for every video link it to previous video
xiaahmad1 3 years ago
peace b on both of u........subhanallah
monumonu2007 3 years ago
What is that nasheed at the start? it sounds like Jeff Buckley - Hallelujah, lol
RzaaV2 3 years ago
lol
xXxAxBxZxXx 3 years ago
Salam-alikum brother mashallah nice video could you please tell me the nasheed that is playing in the background it is beautiful mashallah ...peace be on you
jaed123 3 years ago