Interesting lecture. However, he is not always accurate. Can one man make a prfound differance? Certainly they can. I am immediately reminded of the one whom he rejects as a falicy! This particular man, whom you will recognise if you listen, at least to the last part of his lecture, has changed the whole course of mans destiny!
I'm in love with this man; his science is comprehensive, thoughtful, and very relevant. This clip is well worth watching, sit through the intro, the rest is very interesting.
Haha i think it was really thought-provoking. It kind of turned his entire speech around- even though he, one person, could figure all this irrationality out and tell you about it, it's not going to change your human nature nor his.
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He was wrong on the fact that only humans have empathy for other species. There are many instances of animals helping/saving others animals. One example, an alligator attacked a gazelle , a hippo saw this.. he attacked the alligator, and rescued the gazelle brought the gazelle back to the shore and tried to help it. Another example the zoo... where the human little boy fell in the cage and the female gorilla saved him and waited by the door while fending off the others..on and on many more
@zoomnet58 On his talk at Fora.tv (the same lecture) he corrects this and goes a tad bit more in depth and mentions a few instances of cross-animalistic empathy. (I just made up that word, by the way.)
@zoomnet58 And there are dozens of instances of animals befriending other animals(most of the time in captivity).Gorillas taking care of cats,elephants befriendings dogs,and so on and so on
I wonder what he would look like without the beard/mustache though...but yeah, wow, what a really great lecture!
I lose interest easily when it comes to stuff like this...but then I came across Sapolsky and I'm like blown away and definitely did not lose interest.
...humans have the capacity to simultaneously believe in two contradictory things. the simple answer is, " the least lovable the person is, the most you must find the mean to love them..." how beautiful.
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To be quite honest, if there are any of the 265 comments that regard humans to be outright equal to or inferior to anything at all, excluding the Big G Himself, I seriously believe our education system needs to be revised to inform people how awesome they are. Not just for "self-esteem," but as a simple fact.
When Sapolsky tallks about Franz Marc's 'The Fate Of The Animals' (25:30) he says that Marc was "basically destroyed" by World War I and that the painting was made shortly afterward. In fact, the painting was made in 1913, before WWI and Marc himself was literally destroyed in the war, killed at Verdun in 1916.
I agree with the tit for tat, but some humans have the psychological ability to help one another just for the sake of helping, as opposed to bats.. I think that shows even greater mental power, and feeling.
@nickbleuer76 Keep in mind that he does recognize and discuss that humans do have certain qualities that separates them from other animals. He is just trying to show that humans are not all that special in a number of areas.
@danwilkie81 Yes, I assumed you realized this. I am discussing the evolution of the mind, humans have evolved passed primitive brains and gained the ability to think greater. It somewhat shows that the human mind is only slightly more intelligent, we feel a slight greater degree of psychological intelligence, i.e. compassion.
@nickbleuer76 I'm trying to grasp what you're getting at: you're saying he's seeming to imply that humans are only SLIGHTLY more intelligent than other animals? Tell me if I'm incorrect.
My argument against that would be that I don't think he actually discusses intelligence on its own here at all, possibly because it's a given that we are more intelligent. He's talking only about how we are not unique in some of our behaviours; that other animals possess some of them as well.
@danwilkie81 No shit we share similar traits, we are cousins. We also share similar traits as other creatures. I am saying that we are not that much smarter than "inferior" creatures.
@nickbleuer76 Ok so I guess I didn't understand your argument. Even so, though, I would have to disagree. I'm of the opinion that we ARE quite a bit more intelligent than other creatures. Take P. Sapolsky's example about chess, for instance.
You seem to be implying, however, that this fact is insulting to other animals; you put "inferior" in quotations as if someone has implied that they are, and no one seems to have done so. Other animals are not inferior for being less intelligent...
@danwilkie81 Ok Lt. Dan...I am saying that we really do not have the capacity yet to compare minds. We only think we are a lot smarter than other beings, because we are the smartest being. We really aren't much smarter. In 65 million years, humans are gonna seem very inferior. Evidence suggests that chimps and gorillas broke off the human chain, about 4,000,000 and 8,000,000 years ago. We are a young species, and have younger minds than you think. What will humans feel in 8,000,000 years?
@danwilkie81 Maybe you are inferior or equal to other animals.....I am human. Hear me roar. Wait, maybe you are inferior? Could you survive a single night a lush jungle, with mosquitoes the size of a finger nail? You wouldn't have wifi....by the way. Do you have the will to stab a baby deer in the throat with a stick? I do...I am human.
@nickbleuer76 Wow, I was about to reply to your comment and enter into a civilized debate, but evidently you're an a-hole. I just gave an entire paragraph explaining that other animals are NOT inferior to us for being less intelligent. Your second comment, by the way, is completely unintelligible.
Voila, you may have the last word. Enjoy; I'm done talking with you.
@danwilkie81 Sorry if you cannot withstand my logic. I meant you are less inferior because you think you are equal to other animals. Humans are superior. Even if you aren't. Good Day Sir....I have a Scholarmans stick fighting banquet to attend to.
It is both obvious and curious that this "strident" oddball atheist was choosen by the graduating class to make the final speech they would hear while at Stanford. Naturally, the religious right loathes Prof. Sapolsky, his long hair, his message, his fame, his friendship with Richard Dawkins, and his humor. I use the term 'oddball atheist' to stress a point he makes himself. "The very contradictory nature of it is what makes it vital and essential and a moral imperative."
Why is it that he expect anyone human or non, to actually be comprehending anything what so ever, it is facinating to watch, however I am not sure wich part it is that I find is facinating.
we are great,yes but we should be even better.we should reach to the most of mental evolution,not discovering new planets but discovering the real origin of all life.the would be the greatest thing.it is curious that nobody knows where humans come from,yes from monkeys but and before?
Chimpanzee will likely be engineered into slaves. At that point they will take over. Adam and Eve will kill the human race with a genetic weapon. The Meek will inherit the earth
My original question for any HONEST person was, why can't apes understand english or have a steady thought process. Which is something the professor doesn't cover. Also, I was asking for "proof" of happiness/peace/grace/love. I wanted physical proof. Keep the argument to the issue. If you don't have the mental capacity to carry on an intelligent conversation, than don't. I don't want to argue/lie about you or me, JUST THE ISSUE. I won't answer to IRRELEVANT bullshit anymore. Lies are irrelevant.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Didnt you guys heard the guy? we are few that can love in unprecedented ways, so behave, oh and by the way, Hip Hop is not in danger :P, Shad, P.O.S., Black Thought (The Roots), Blackalicious, Primeridian, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Substantial, Insight, i know at least 45 good Hip Hop Mc's and just about 10 wack ones in tv. Peace from Mexico.
The first thing to be understood is what ego is. A child is born. A child is born without any knowledge, any consciousness of his own self. And when a child is born the first thing he becomes aware of is not himself; the first thing he becomes aware of is the other. It is natural, because the eyes open outwards, the hands touch others, the ears listen to others, the tongue tastes food and the nose smells the outside. All these senses open outwards.
That is what birth means. Birth means coming into this world, the world of the outside. So when a child is born, he is born into this world. He opens his eyes, sees others. 'Other' means the thou. He becomes aware of the mother first. Then, by and by, he becomes aware of his own body. That too is the other, that too belongs to the world. He is hungry and he feels the body; his need is satisfied, he forgets the body.
This is how a child grows. First he becomes aware of you, thou, other, and then by and by, in contrast to you, thou, he becomes aware of himself.
This awareness is a reflected awareness. He is not aware of who he is. He is simply aware of the mother and what she thinks about him. If she smiles, if she appreciates the child, if she says, "You are beautiful," if she hugs and kisses him, the child feels good about himself. Now an ego is born.
Through appreciation, love, care, he feels he is good, he feels he is valuable, he feels he has some significance. A center is born.
You any the majority of beings are nothing but self-centered "apes" as you call them.
The lesson is free.... I have nothing but love for ALL beings. I don't eat meat, don't drink, don't smoke(tobacco..hehe) , don't hate or in any other way TRY to hurt people. You have to clean thought process first then you begin to see clearly. PEACE.
The mind is nothing other than the I-thought. The mind and the ego are one and the same. The other mental faculties such as the intellect and the memory are only this. Mind , intellect , the storehouse of mental tendencies , and ego ; all these are only the one mind itself. This is like different names being given to a man according to his different functions. The individual soul is nothing but this soul or ego.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER....From where does this I arise? Seek for it within; it then vanishes. This is the pursuit of wisdom. When the mind unceasingly investigates its own nature, it transpires that there is no such thing as mind. This is the direct path for all. The mind is merely thoughts. Of all thoughts the thought I is the root. Therefore the mind is only the thought I.
That's something an "idiot" can't even begin to comprehend. Try explaining that to a ape. Peace.
Q: If they are so much like us why can't they think like us...? A: They are not intelligent like us. Q: Don't they have the same anatomy though....? A: Yes, they are very similar to us. Q: Is there brain like us also...? A: Yes, a bit smaller, but similar. Q: You mean like a child? A: Yes. Q: But children can be taught and even want to learn, Why can't an ape be taught in the same manner. A: SHUT UP...IT"S NOT UP FOR DISPUTE.. We're JUST more INTELLIGENT. NOT ONE PROOF OF ANYTHING... nuts
More then you But I'm not the one asking about you. I'm trying to explain YOU to YOU. AGAIN, berating me won't bring me down to your "educated" level. Education is not just getting a Ph.D, it's the knowledge that life in it self is education. What good is education to an ape anyways if he doesn't even realise who he is... he's so focused on what other apes are saying and doing to just LIVE LIFE AND ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS. IT"S BEAUTIFUL, which is something an ape just can't comprehend.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER haha, your first sentence gives you away - not that I didn't know already!! More THAN you, not then. You've comprehended that it's beautiful and you are an ape so you're wrong there. You're a complete space cadet and I have no more interest in arguing with you anymore. I am living life and enjoying it, I don't need your bullshit to help me.
@bowezo ....An "a" for an human created "e".......and that's your "educated" retort. Yeah....you really "PROVED" your point. Have a nice ape life, while I enjoy my spiritual, loving and worry free life.....and you can continue to try to nit pick my life because it only shows how pitiful yours is. Education can't teach happiness. You are PROOF. But self-education can bring happiness....I am the proof. See ya ....
@HIPHOPisinDANGER You obviously have not done any research on this or any subject partaining to the origin of species.. Primates are very much self aware as you are as well. Life is NOT beautiful, it's mere chance, a fluke, just like you.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Since beauty is in the eye of the beholder I would say there is nothing beautiful about what we as a species have done to this, our only earth. But don't worry, you wont have to worry about any of this "science" and "logic" stuff.. You will just go on living life in your tiny world where nothing is possible but what the good lord teaches.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER You think too small, and don't try to cover for it with some pseudo-phyliosophical mess. Neither "love", nor "hate" are nouns for any other reason than the fact that they are mere ideas. One can be turned to the other by either one. And by the way, "jesus" most certainly won't help you.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Happiness is an emotion caused by the production of seratonin in your brain. It's a stimulant, eventfully caused by the lack of thinking. Thankfully my life is not simply sitting in front of the computer screen as I live in the country and work for a living.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER "Much of the chance of being happy is inherited, with 50% due to genetics. A further 10% is caused by environmental factors, which leaves 40% which is driven by conscious (or maybe less thinking) choice. (Lyubomirsky et al., 2005)." Which is REAL research, not fucking Google. And I fail to see how a 2010 year old corpse would help you in any way, shape or form.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER You are only proving my point that you think to small which is why your happier than I. You litterally had to go to Google to learn what happiness is. And as far as making it up is concerned, the whole lack of thinking causing happiness was just a short way of saying,
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Wow, your stupid. Just because I decided to give you the physical science behind it before I gave other reasons for it's production does not negate one fact for the other. Once you've learned to form coherent sentences as opposed to fragmented thought, THEN you will able to argue with me. As of thus far you've simply sat there as I've demolished your feble attempts at an arguement with simple science and logic. But apparently I'm the one leading the "ape" life...
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Pathetic. I just explained to you the science behind it. But you are right about one thing... It IS within you. Your brain that is... You know, that science shit you keep ignoring.. And your right, I will argue about anything. I enjoy the conflict. And if we are going to argue grammar, then you try finishing off a bottle of home made hooch, smoking two joints, and writing a few coherant sentences.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER I AM at peace with the knowledge there is no "god". It in it self is what gives me peace. And who the fuck said anything about a "nigga"? If your trying to play the race card, you've already failed considering my numerous black friends, the fact that I love reggae, oh, and I've donated to united negro college fund.. But your right, I think I'm better than you because your black. Science makes me HAPPY. It's knowledge is completely fufilling to me. It's all I need.
@xjollybobx - Sure....You think I'm going to believe a liar that eats his own words like it's his dinner. I was done with you three days ago. Still, if you didn't get the message, here's what I think of your conversation. It never happened.... if you want to continue to go at it alone, please, be my guest. It's probably very natural to you anyway....
I like the video just because it shows a really smart person that can't answer a simple question like..If we are so much like chimps and monkeys then WHY can't a chimp understand ENGLISH or have a steady thought process? In that way, we're just unique he says. Bullshit. Everything science tries to understand is external.. the important questions are internal. Where our thought originates and WHO it is doing the thinking? What is unique about us our ability to be ONE & @ PEACE with EVERYTHING...
NO, NO, NO....Speak for yourself, you are very much like a baboon. You saw my comment and that it was by some hip hop guy, disagreed and started throwing feces. That is exactly what a baboon would do. I on the other hand know that it is not you that got upset at my comment, it is your EGO. You are you, while you eat, sleep, play and watch videos. It's the moment that is in front of you that you are responsive to. You have no idea who I am, just my name was enough for you to judge me. >>
@bowezo ..... Then I go back to my original question....... Why can't our "close relatives" speak english or have a steady thought process? And have you done all these "researches" for the "evidence" or are you just reading it from a "book"...)
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Because they aren't as intelligent as us you dope!!! What a ridiculous question anyway!! There are plenty of humans who don't speak English and plenty who don't have a steady thought process.
I'm obviously dealing with an idiot. Why put the word 'book' in inverted commas? Yes I have read books on the matter - books which quote scientific reports submitted to internationally accredited scientific journals. You clearly haven't. Go and get some and come back when you're finished
@bowezo .... " because they aren't as intelligent as us you dope"-OK. I wasn't born speaking english or french or any other language. But I learned not one but many languages. Any MAN can be taught any language. Your "relatives" can't. They only do things for rewards. Which is like selfish humans.Reading books doesn't give you common sense like how figure out YOUR OWN SELF. First self inquiry then you world. Stay on track here... calling me names isn't going to pull me down to your level.
@HIPHOPisinDANGER By "speak" do you mean speak english or do you mean audible communications? Also, please define "steady thought process." Thank you.
@trevticks - Yes, I mean any language. I know that apes can be trained to understand humans to a certain extent. Like stop, go, sit etc... even that for rewards.Yet we can mimic them but they can't even verbally mimic us. By steady thought process I meant how we human have the ability to change our self when we realise we are not right or stick to a certain set of principles. With all respect to the professor, he just explains the likeness or oneness in LIFE and skips the important differences.
<<< I also have the ability to realise that I can't get angry at someone else for having a different opinion or for just being different. Dude... we have the same building block as flies for God sakes. It's too easy for an open mind to realise the oneness in everything. THAT"S THE POINT. We are all one, out of one creator. We see difference because the difference is in the EYE of the beholder. Eliminate the difference and you are FREE. a true BEING. That's something a baboon can't do.
5:00 in is when the intro is over. Such a good speech. Precious closing remarks. Everyone should hear this speech. ...I think I've heard a lot of speeches on youtube that everyone should hear.
to TedDGPoulos: I do understand your right to banter and rant, but i do believe this is not a discussion board nor a discussion worth having on such a venue. So why don't you let this post be and enough with the superficial large vocabulary surmounted banter? As you might be able to gather you seem to not be the only being capable of writing in larger than 10th grade word structure. so please enough with the post whoring. That is all, thank you.
if an ape (not a monkey mind you) is raised from birth with humans they develope a different system of facial expressions, something which is deeply rooted in the brain.
We are apes to a good extent, liberated apes (to an extent).
. The known universe 14,000,000,000 BCE . Earth 5,000,000,000 BCE . Homo sapiens 300,000 BCE . Fire (applied) 200,000 BCE . The underlying law of nature (discovered & applied) 2003 CE .
@Paulginz . The underlying law of nature. . The original subject is singular. There is only one law in question as relates the underlying law of nature. . In effect, you changed the subject when you omitted the word 'The.' . The question you put forward would involve a search for no particular law among others that are all of equal relevance. . Contrast this with a search for the underlying law of nature, which refers to a single, underlying law ... the one that underlies nature and all laws.
But consider that it may be a passing interest only. That is, were it possible and extremely useful to identify the underlying law of nature firsthand, for yourself, do you see yourself genuinely making an effort to do so?
Before you answer, bring to mind one or two of the biggest potential applications you can think of for the underlying law of nature.
I would make an effort to do so. Obviously, my degree of effort would depend on my perceived chances of succeeding.
However, if someone has already figured it out I would much rather take the easy route and read an explanation.
Applications: Revolutionising physics with a working theory of everything, thus enabling tons of important predictions in science, technology, industry, medicine etc.
Possibly getting insights into morality and the so-called "purpose of life".
The applications you refer to are exactly right, which is not a coincidence, as you'll learn, when you compare them with the succinct literature that is now available. (Recommend: Do not let this fact escape you.)
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As for taking the easy route to 'learning,' you're not alone in this thinking. It's very common. An enormous problem exists with it, however: It is irreparably damaging to one's application of the law, and it eliminates one's joy of making an extraordinary discovery!
Paul, consider the basis upon which you drew over a half-dozen applications for the underlying law of nature. You did so with virtually no specific knowledge of the law. Correct?
Let me ask you a question, if I may. Do you think there may be are one- or two-billion other intelligent people in the world who could do the same thing? And how about the world's leading physicists, biologists and economists, etc.?
Do you think the question of this law is a worthwhile one to humanity?
@TedDGPoulos Correct. Also, I couldn't tell for sure if ANY of those applications were actually possible. So I was pretty much making guesses about what the law might be (e.g. equation describing the behaviour of all matter and energy.), and then thinking of applications.
Yes, a couple of billion at least should, given enough time to think.
The leading physicists have very likely already done so.
The question is worthwhile. I just don't see where you're going.
Keep in mind, no such claim was made. You must have simply assumed this based on the collective knowledge and familiarity we each have with Earth, Fire, Homo sapiens, etc. Which is perfectly understandable, Paul.
Relatively speaking, very few people in the world have ever even considered the question of the underlying law of nature, let alone being among those who can say they have identified it firsthand and know what it is.
Remember, the subject in question is not "an underlying law of nature," as you referred to once again in your last sentence. The subject is, the underlying law of nature.
You might agree, an unintelligible (incomprehensible and non-practicable) law would be a wholly useless one.
The underlying law of nature, on the other hand, is found to hold more uses than we know what to do with, for it applies to all conceivable things ... everything and everyone.
He looks like Jesus meets 'Weird Al' Yankovic...
But he is pretty super! :-D
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great clip .. keep it up thanks
fivequotes 1 week ago
If you are here for Shapiro's class, Thumbs up
jerry0o8 1 week ago 2
@jerry0o8 You taking the class this semester right?
bigpowerbomb 1 week ago
@bigpowerbomb yup lol, you too?
jerry0o8 1 week ago
The epicness of the wizard beard!!
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Somehow I got here and then listened to the whole lecture---well done!
ashokrayvenn 3 weeks ago
man---awesome hair!!---"like" just because!
ashokrayvenn 3 weeks ago
An Ivy League education on youtube??? AWESOME!!!!
Josephjoel3 1 month ago
Dude needs a shave.
coolshit28 2 months ago
very intriguing
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AfterClassroom 3 months ago
i have to watch this video 10x..he talk so fast
ladydaniellexk 3 months ago
TAKE A BREATH!!!
southsidesman 3 months ago
@southsidesman No way. I am always impressed at how he can just nonstop pump out info. Hard not to pay attention.
Jestlow 3 months ago
Brilliant man, don't you wish he was a leader of the country?
BolasDaGrk 4 months ago 8
@BolasDaGrk No.
southsidesman 3 months ago
really interesting.
weightlossguru123 4 months ago
Interesting lecture. However, he is not always accurate. Can one man make a prfound differance? Certainly they can. I am immediately reminded of the one whom he rejects as a falicy! This particular man, whom you will recognise if you listen, at least to the last part of his lecture, has changed the whole course of mans destiny!
neogovernment 5 months ago
wizard beard brings my attention up by 100% wish all my teachers had one of 'em
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gronkel 5 months ago
who know you could get a ivy league education on youtube without paying a cent
tubester92 5 months ago 2
@tubester92 Well. This is a graduation speech. Not really giving you the well-rounded education a good university can give you.
Alien5p 5 months ago
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Education? Can you decern the chaf from the wheat?
neogovernment 5 months ago
@neogovernment you wouldnt call this education?
tubester92 5 months ago
Nice lecture.
somewhatd 5 months ago
cognitive dissonance at the end?
scorpionboy3 6 months ago
@scorpionboy3 not really, cause fervent denial over a period of time fools the psyche into believing it is cognitively consistent.
chilldaddy81 6 months ago
Intermittent reinforcement is the spice of life!
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McTaggStar 6 months ago
Very nice lecture!
Fnordblaster 6 months ago
I'm in love with this man; his science is comprehensive, thoughtful, and very relevant. This clip is well worth watching, sit through the intro, the rest is very interesting.
casildac7 7 months ago
Those were some fastest interesting 30 minutes of my life! Very little rhetoric is as entrancing as Sapolsky's.
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BobMayoFrank 8 months ago
Brilliant guy! I love him... Unfortunately, Truth is not for everybody. So it seems
zabelicious 8 months ago
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themistoklas 8 months ago
"The more that you think that it is impossible as a single person to change the world for the better, the harder that you must never give up trying"!
Awesome!
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lmrose1 9 months ago
@TheJonneyg Someone asked me where this quote came from...
Robert Sapolsky, at the very end of his presentation...
This man is a genius, I know that word is bandied about a lot. Yet in this case it is undoubtedly true :)
TheJonneyg 9 months ago
he's like a cross between daniel dennett and weird al
WhoIsThisPace 9 months ago 4
I enjoyed every word - nice, clear and understandable speaker and so interesting.
illywacker1 10 months ago 4
what textbook(s) does stanford use for this course?
muziektelevisie 10 months ago
Worst conclusion ever. Otherwise entertaining lecture.
NotThat3 10 months ago
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Haha i think it was really thought-provoking. It kind of turned his entire speech around- even though he, one person, could figure all this irrationality out and tell you about it, it's not going to change your human nature nor his.
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Gregmills007 10 months ago
Pretty good.
glukaschlok 10 months ago
He was wrong on the fact that only humans have empathy for other species. There are many instances of animals helping/saving others animals. One example, an alligator attacked a gazelle , a hippo saw this.. he attacked the alligator, and rescued the gazelle brought the gazelle back to the shore and tried to help it. Another example the zoo... where the human little boy fell in the cage and the female gorilla saved him and waited by the door while fending off the others..on and on many more
zoomnet58 10 months ago 5
@zoomnet58 On his talk at Fora.tv (the same lecture) he corrects this and goes a tad bit more in depth and mentions a few instances of cross-animalistic empathy. (I just made up that word, by the way.)
majestic93 10 months ago
@zoomnet58 And there are dozens of instances of animals befriending other animals(most of the time in captivity).Gorillas taking care of cats,elephants befriendings dogs,and so on and so on
wisewarrior7 10 months ago
I wonder what he would look like without the beard/mustache though...but yeah, wow, what a really great lecture!
I lose interest easily when it comes to stuff like this...but then I came across Sapolsky and I'm like blown away and definitely did not lose interest.
layanne1234567890 11 months ago
That was really good...
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no offense.. But how does this guy NOT think he looks completely RIDICULOUS???
Unfortunately, I have no sound on this vid for some reason.
jronmorgan 11 months ago
@jronmorgan, I guess you wouldn't see that way if you were able to hear/listen and understand him.
taxsi 11 months ago 2
@jronmorgan hello?! that's what happens when you work with chimps for a while
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no offense.. But how does this guy NOT think he looks completely RIDICULOUS???
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awesome
TZMMiami 11 months ago
i love this man
dariusasghari 11 months ago
Robert Sapolsky has the uniquierest beard I've seen in a while.
coffeeslave101 1 year ago 2
You know this man is smart, he has the wizard beard.
BlueChipNinja 1 year ago 72
@BlueChipNinja He is todays Dumbledore that's for sure.
likeprestige 2 months ago
Thank you, Stanford, for being intellectual enough to not only put this up but offer it for downlad.
Mayokitty7 1 year ago
That was brilliant.
PinballWiizard 1 year ago
04:50 end of introduction.
BounceToTheJiggy 1 year ago 136
...humans have the capacity to simultaneously believe in two contradictory things. the simple answer is, " the least lovable the person is, the most you must find the mean to love them..." how beautiful.
simplerachel11 1 year ago
Final transition and wrap up was even more amazing than the examples he gave during the lecture. You have 1.2 Feynman awesomeness Mr Sapolsky
muratozguc 1 year ago 2
What a Lecture, Jesus!
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Skip to 5:09.
shamantics 1 year ago 6
Reminds me of Professor Megonigal in Harry Potter: "i will not have you acting like a babbling, bumbbling band of baboons" lol cracks me up
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SamsonGuest 1 year ago
This was an outstanding lecture, with a wonderful conclusion. It pays to view it multiple times.
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he looks like a wise weird al
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janakisaman 1 year ago
This is the best lecture I've ever seen about the human race.
Rooiebert 1 year ago 2
awesome beard and awesome lecture
NOSFERATUalu 1 year ago 43
i saw this months ago and haven't forgotten it
go science!
anycon 1 year ago 3
16 aliens got jealous and thumbed this awesome video down.
To be quite honest, if there are any of the 265 comments that regard humans to be outright equal to or inferior to anything at all, excluding the Big G Himself, I seriously believe our education system needs to be revised to inform people how awesome they are. Not just for "self-esteem," but as a simple fact.
Humanity über allies!
SgtHydra 1 year ago 3
When Sapolsky tallks about Franz Marc's 'The Fate Of The Animals' (25:30) he says that Marc was "basically destroyed" by World War I and that the painting was made shortly afterward. In fact, the painting was made in 1913, before WWI and Marc himself was literally destroyed in the war, killed at Verdun in 1916.
Sorry for nitpicking.
Guitcad1 1 year ago
Motherfucker this is a long as video.
ledias65 1 year ago 2
I agree with the tit for tat, but some humans have the psychological ability to help one another just for the sake of helping, as opposed to bats.. I think that shows even greater mental power, and feeling.
nickbleuer76 1 year ago
@nickbleuer76 Maybe I should have finished the video, he discusses this...
nickbleuer76 1 year ago
@nickbleuer76 a lot of people would disagree on true altruism
RawryMcRawr 1 year ago
@nickbleuer76 Keep in mind that he does recognize and discuss that humans do have certain qualities that separates them from other animals. He is just trying to show that humans are not all that special in a number of areas.
danwilkie81 1 year ago
@danwilkie81 Yes, I assumed you realized this. I am discussing the evolution of the mind, humans have evolved passed primitive brains and gained the ability to think greater. It somewhat shows that the human mind is only slightly more intelligent, we feel a slight greater degree of psychological intelligence, i.e. compassion.
nickbleuer76 1 year ago
@nickbleuer76 I'm trying to grasp what you're getting at: you're saying he's seeming to imply that humans are only SLIGHTLY more intelligent than other animals? Tell me if I'm incorrect.
My argument against that would be that I don't think he actually discusses intelligence on its own here at all, possibly because it's a given that we are more intelligent. He's talking only about how we are not unique in some of our behaviours; that other animals possess some of them as well.
danwilkie81 1 year ago
@danwilkie81 No shit we share similar traits, we are cousins. We also share similar traits as other creatures. I am saying that we are not that much smarter than "inferior" creatures.
nickbleuer76 1 year ago
@nickbleuer76 Ok so I guess I didn't understand your argument. Even so, though, I would have to disagree. I'm of the opinion that we ARE quite a bit more intelligent than other creatures. Take P. Sapolsky's example about chess, for instance.
You seem to be implying, however, that this fact is insulting to other animals; you put "inferior" in quotations as if someone has implied that they are, and no one seems to have done so. Other animals are not inferior for being less intelligent...
danwilkie81 1 year ago
@danwilkie81 Ok Lt. Dan...I am saying that we really do not have the capacity yet to compare minds. We only think we are a lot smarter than other beings, because we are the smartest being. We really aren't much smarter. In 65 million years, humans are gonna seem very inferior. Evidence suggests that chimps and gorillas broke off the human chain, about 4,000,000 and 8,000,000 years ago. We are a young species, and have younger minds than you think. What will humans feel in 8,000,000 years?
nickbleuer76 1 year ago
@danwilkie81 Maybe you are inferior or equal to other animals.....I am human. Hear me roar. Wait, maybe you are inferior? Could you survive a single night a lush jungle, with mosquitoes the size of a finger nail? You wouldn't have wifi....by the way. Do you have the will to stab a baby deer in the throat with a stick? I do...I am human.
nickbleuer76 1 year ago
@nickbleuer76 Wow, I was about to reply to your comment and enter into a civilized debate, but evidently you're an a-hole. I just gave an entire paragraph explaining that other animals are NOT inferior to us for being less intelligent. Your second comment, by the way, is completely unintelligible.
Voila, you may have the last word. Enjoy; I'm done talking with you.
danwilkie81 1 year ago 2
@danwilkie81 Sorry if you cannot withstand my logic. I meant you are less inferior because you think you are equal to other animals. Humans are superior. Even if you aren't. Good Day Sir....I have a Scholarmans stick fighting banquet to attend to.
nickbleuer76 1 year ago
I like the message, its a shame most of those guys are probably fuckers who won't listen to it. just like most of the fuckers who watch this video
efsq 1 year ago 2
i love the word "baboon"
efsq 1 year ago
I'd love to have him as a professor
israelmaven1 1 year ago
It is both obvious and curious that this "strident" oddball atheist was choosen by the graduating class to make the final speech they would hear while at Stanford. Naturally, the religious right loathes Prof. Sapolsky, his long hair, his message, his fame, his friendship with Richard Dawkins, and his humor. I use the term 'oddball atheist' to stress a point he makes himself. "The very contradictory nature of it is what makes it vital and essential and a moral imperative."
Thank you Stanford.
OneWorldHistory 1 year ago
love the beard
Zachdudeio2 1 year ago 3
Why is it that he expect anyone human or non, to actually be comprehending anything what so ever, it is facinating to watch, however I am not sure wich part it is that I find is facinating.
whatellerhvad 1 year ago
What an extremely well spoken, inspiring, and clarifying lecture. I wish this man was my professor.
catmartinn 1 year ago 45
So, to be loved, don't just say hello; be like Hitler.
VCat2006 1 year ago
we are great,yes but we should be even better.we should reach to the most of mental evolution,not discovering new planets but discovering the real origin of all life.the would be the greatest thing.it is curious that nobody knows where humans come from,yes from monkeys but and before?
26blanco 1 year ago
"This puts my entire concept or reality into question." -Bender, in the box. Futurama episode "The Farnsworth Paradox"
ljdavinci13 1 year ago
Chimpanzee will likely be engineered into slaves. At that point they will take over. Adam and Eve will kill the human race with a genetic weapon. The Meek will inherit the earth
stew6302 1 year ago
Pr. Robert Sapolski is a genius.
3Kytheria 1 year ago
Sapolsky is very well endowed.....hairwise.
hedonistic2008 1 year ago
My original question for any HONEST person was, why can't apes understand english or have a steady thought process. Which is something the professor doesn't cover. Also, I was asking for "proof" of happiness/peace/grace/love. I wanted physical proof. Keep the argument to the issue. If you don't have the mental capacity to carry on an intelligent conversation, than don't. I don't want to argue/lie about you or me, JUST THE ISSUE. I won't answer to IRRELEVANT bullshit anymore. Lies are irrelevant.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Didnt you guys heard the guy? we are few that can love in unprecedented ways, so behave, oh and by the way, Hip Hop is not in danger :P, Shad, P.O.S., Black Thought (The Roots), Blackalicious, Primeridian, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Substantial, Insight, i know at least 45 good Hip Hop Mc's and just about 10 wack ones in tv. Peace from Mexico.
kaleexto 1 year ago
@kaleexto ...you're way off topic muchacho....
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
NOW I CAN"T STOP.. SEE WHAT YOU STARTED.
The first thing to be understood is what ego is. A child is born. A child is born without any knowledge, any consciousness of his own self. And when a child is born the first thing he becomes aware of is not himself; the first thing he becomes aware of is the other. It is natural, because the eyes open outwards, the hands touch others, the ears listen to others, the tongue tastes food and the nose smells the outside. All these senses open outwards.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER
That is what birth means. Birth means coming into this world, the world of the outside. So when a child is born, he is born into this world. He opens his eyes, sees others. 'Other' means the thou. He becomes aware of the mother first. Then, by and by, he becomes aware of his own body. That too is the other, that too belongs to the world. He is hungry and he feels the body; his need is satisfied, he forgets the body.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER
This is how a child grows. First he becomes aware of you, thou, other, and then by and by, in contrast to you, thou, he becomes aware of himself.
This awareness is a reflected awareness. He is not aware of who he is. He is simply aware of the mother and what she thinks about him. If she smiles, if she appreciates the child, if she says, "You are beautiful," if she hugs and kisses him, the child feels good about himself. Now an ego is born.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER
Through appreciation, love, care, he feels he is good, he feels he is valuable, he feels he has some significance. A center is born.
You any the majority of beings are nothing but self-centered "apes" as you call them.
The lesson is free.... I have nothing but love for ALL beings. I don't eat meat, don't drink, don't smoke(tobacco..hehe) , don't hate or in any other way TRY to hurt people. You have to clean thought process first then you begin to see clearly. PEACE.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
The mind is nothing other than the I-thought. The mind and the ego are one and the same. The other mental faculties such as the intellect and the memory are only this. Mind , intellect , the storehouse of mental tendencies , and ego ; all these are only the one mind itself. This is like different names being given to a man according to his different functions. The individual soul is nothing but this soul or ego.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER....From where does this I arise? Seek for it within; it then vanishes. This is the pursuit of wisdom. When the mind unceasingly investigates its own nature, it transpires that there is no such thing as mind. This is the direct path for all. The mind is merely thoughts. Of all thoughts the thought I is the root. Therefore the mind is only the thought I.
That's something an "idiot" can't even begin to comprehend. Try explaining that to a ape. Peace.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER you quite clearly aren't a smart person. How far have you got education wise??
bowezo 1 year ago
@bowezo
More then you But I'm not the one asking about you. I'm trying to explain YOU to YOU. AGAIN, berating me won't bring me down to your "educated" level. Education is not just getting a Ph.D, it's the knowledge that life in it self is education. What good is education to an ape anyways if he doesn't even realise who he is... he's so focused on what other apes are saying and doing to just LIVE LIFE AND ENJOY IT FOR WHAT IT IS. IT"S BEAUTIFUL, which is something an ape just can't comprehend.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER haha, your first sentence gives you away - not that I didn't know already!! More THAN you, not then. You've comprehended that it's beautiful and you are an ape so you're wrong there. You're a complete space cadet and I have no more interest in arguing with you anymore. I am living life and enjoying it, I don't need your bullshit to help me.
bowezo 1 year ago
@bowezo ....An "a" for an human created "e".......and that's your "educated" retort. Yeah....you really "PROVED" your point. Have a nice ape life, while I enjoy my spiritual, loving and worry free life.....and you can continue to try to nit pick my life because it only shows how pitiful yours is. Education can't teach happiness. You are PROOF. But self-education can bring happiness....I am the proof. See ya ....
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER You obviously have not done any research on this or any subject partaining to the origin of species.. Primates are very much self aware as you are as well. Life is NOT beautiful, it's mere chance, a fluke, just like you.
xjollybobx 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Since beauty is in the eye of the beholder I would say there is nothing beautiful about what we as a species have done to this, our only earth. But don't worry, you wont have to worry about any of this "science" and "logic" stuff.. You will just go on living life in your tiny world where nothing is possible but what the good lord teaches.
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HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER You think too small, and don't try to cover for it with some pseudo-phyliosophical mess. Neither "love", nor "hate" are nouns for any other reason than the fact that they are mere ideas. One can be turned to the other by either one. And by the way, "jesus" most certainly won't help you.
xjollybobx 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Happiness is an emotion caused by the production of seratonin in your brain. It's a stimulant, eventfully caused by the lack of thinking. Thankfully my life is not simply sitting in front of the computer screen as I live in the country and work for a living.
xjollybobx 1 year ago
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HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER "Much of the chance of being happy is inherited, with 50% due to genetics. A further 10% is caused by environmental factors, which leaves 40% which is driven by conscious (or maybe less thinking) choice. (Lyubomirsky et al., 2005)." Which is REAL research, not fucking Google. And I fail to see how a 2010 year old corpse would help you in any way, shape or form.
xjollybobx 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER You are only proving my point that you think to small which is why your happier than I. You litterally had to go to Google to learn what happiness is. And as far as making it up is concerned, the whole lack of thinking causing happiness was just a short way of saying,
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HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Wow, your stupid. Just because I decided to give you the physical science behind it before I gave other reasons for it's production does not negate one fact for the other. Once you've learned to form coherent sentences as opposed to fragmented thought, THEN you will able to argue with me. As of thus far you've simply sat there as I've demolished your feble attempts at an arguement with simple science and logic. But apparently I'm the one leading the "ape" life...
xjollybobx 1 year ago
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HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Pathetic. I just explained to you the science behind it. But you are right about one thing... It IS within you. Your brain that is... You know, that science shit you keep ignoring.. And your right, I will argue about anything. I enjoy the conflict. And if we are going to argue grammar, then you try finishing off a bottle of home made hooch, smoking two joints, and writing a few coherant sentences.
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HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER I AM at peace with the knowledge there is no "god". It in it self is what gives me peace. And who the fuck said anything about a "nigga"? If your trying to play the race card, you've already failed considering my numerous black friends, the fact that I love reggae, oh, and I've donated to united negro college fund.. But your right, I think I'm better than you because your black. Science makes me HAPPY. It's knowledge is completely fufilling to me. It's all I need.
xjollybobx 1 year ago
@xjollybobx - Sure....You think I'm going to believe a liar that eats his own words like it's his dinner. I was done with you three days ago. Still, if you didn't get the message, here's what I think of your conversation. It never happened.... if you want to continue to go at it alone, please, be my guest. It's probably very natural to you anyway....
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER HA HA, that's right, give up. Your argument holds no weight any way.
xjollybobx 1 year ago
I like the video just because it shows a really smart person that can't answer a simple question like..If we are so much like chimps and monkeys then WHY can't a chimp understand ENGLISH or have a steady thought process? In that way, we're just unique he says. Bullshit. Everything science tries to understand is external.. the important questions are internal. Where our thought originates and WHO it is doing the thinking? What is unique about us our ability to be ONE & @ PEACE with EVERYTHING...
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER well everyone on youtube can certainly see you weren't a member of that audience, nor any other graduating audience
bowezo 1 year ago
@bowezo ...I think Professor Sapolsky covered how baboons judge others and I don't argue with a baboons. Take care.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER well, if you got anything from the lecture you'd realise we're very like baboons
bowezo 1 year ago
@bowezo
NO, NO, NO....Speak for yourself, you are very much like a baboon. You saw my comment and that it was by some hip hop guy, disagreed and started throwing feces. That is exactly what a baboon would do. I on the other hand know that it is not you that got upset at my comment, it is your EGO. You are you, while you eat, sleep, play and watch videos. It's the moment that is in front of you that you are responsive to. You have no idea who I am, just my name was enough for you to judge me. >>
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER no, we are. it's a fact. it's not up for dispute so quiet down.
bowezo 1 year ago
@bowezo .....That's almost as bad as God's real cause Jesus said so. LOL. I didn't expect an intelligent response from a chimp. Have a nice life...)
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER I'm not a chimp, I am an ape though.
No it's nothing like that argument. It is established fact that we are closely related to other primates - there is indisputable evidence for it.
bowezo 1 year ago
@bowezo ..... Then I go back to my original question....... Why can't our "close relatives" speak english or have a steady thought process? And have you done all these "researches" for the "evidence" or are you just reading it from a "book"...)
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER Because they aren't as intelligent as us you dope!!! What a ridiculous question anyway!! There are plenty of humans who don't speak English and plenty who don't have a steady thought process.
I'm obviously dealing with an idiot. Why put the word 'book' in inverted commas? Yes I have read books on the matter - books which quote scientific reports submitted to internationally accredited scientific journals. You clearly haven't. Go and get some and come back when you're finished
bowezo 1 year ago
@bowezo .... " because they aren't as intelligent as us you dope"-OK. I wasn't born speaking english or french or any other language. But I learned not one but many languages. Any MAN can be taught any language. Your "relatives" can't. They only do things for rewards. Which is like selfish humans.Reading books doesn't give you common sense like how figure out YOUR OWN SELF. First self inquiry then you world. Stay on track here... calling me names isn't going to pull me down to your level.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@HIPHOPisinDANGER By "speak" do you mean speak english or do you mean audible communications? Also, please define "steady thought process." Thank you.
trevticks 1 year ago
@trevticks - Yes, I mean any language. I know that apes can be trained to understand humans to a certain extent. Like stop, go, sit etc... even that for rewards.Yet we can mimic them but they can't even verbally mimic us. By steady thought process I meant how we human have the ability to change our self when we realise we are not right or stick to a certain set of principles. With all respect to the professor, he just explains the likeness or oneness in LIFE and skips the important differences.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
@bowezo
<<< I also have the ability to realise that I can't get angry at someone else for having a different opinion or for just being different. Dude... we have the same building block as flies for God sakes. It's too easy for an open mind to realise the oneness in everything. THAT"S THE POINT. We are all one, out of one creator. We see difference because the difference is in the EYE of the beholder. Eliminate the difference and you are FREE. a true BEING. That's something a baboon can't do.
HIPHOPisinDANGER 1 year ago
HOLY SHIT.
This guy is my new hero.
crocswsocks 1 year ago
5:00 in is when the intro is over. Such a good speech. Precious closing remarks. Everyone should hear this speech. ...I think I've heard a lot of speeches on youtube that everyone should hear.
ashleylovesdaddy 1 year ago
@ashleylovesdaddy
would you name some of those? everyone is my teacher
jasontseshinglee 1 year ago
to TedDGPoulos: I do understand your right to banter and rant, but i do believe this is not a discussion board nor a discussion worth having on such a venue. So why don't you let this post be and enough with the superficial large vocabulary surmounted banter? As you might be able to gather you seem to not be the only being capable of writing in larger than 10th grade word structure. so please enough with the post whoring. That is all, thank you.
FujiFlame 1 year ago
if an ape (not a monkey mind you) is raised from birth with humans they develope a different system of facial expressions, something which is deeply rooted in the brain.
We are apes to a good extent, liberated apes (to an extent).
monkey0style 1 year ago
TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
@TedDGPoulos What underlying law of naure?
Paulginz 1 year ago
TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
@TedDGPoulos Ok then, let me rephrase the question:
You claim that we know the underlying law of nature.
What is the underlying law of nature?
Paulginz 1 year ago
@Paulginz
Paul, I can see the question interests you.
But consider that it may be a passing interest only. That is, were it possible and extremely useful to identify the underlying law of nature firsthand, for yourself, do you see yourself genuinely making an effort to do so?
Before you answer, bring to mind one or two of the biggest potential applications you can think of for the underlying law of nature.
TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
@TedDGPoulos
I would make an effort to do so. Obviously, my degree of effort would depend on my perceived chances of succeeding.
However, if someone has already figured it out I would much rather take the easy route and read an explanation.
Applications: Revolutionising physics with a working theory of everything, thus enabling tons of important predictions in science, technology, industry, medicine etc.
Possibly getting insights into morality and the so-called "purpose of life".
Paulginz 1 year ago
@Paulginz
The applications you refer to are exactly right, which is not a coincidence, as you'll learn, when you compare them with the succinct literature that is now available. (Recommend: Do not let this fact escape you.)
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As for taking the easy route to 'learning,' you're not alone in this thinking. It's very common. An enormous problem exists with it, however: It is irreparably damaging to one's application of the law, and it eliminates one's joy of making an extraordinary discovery!
TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
@Paulginz
Paul, consider the basis upon which you drew over a half-dozen applications for the underlying law of nature. You did so with virtually no specific knowledge of the law. Correct?
Let me ask you a question, if I may. Do you think there may be are one- or two-billion other intelligent people in the world who could do the same thing? And how about the world's leading physicists, biologists and economists, etc.?
Do you think the question of this law is a worthwhile one to humanity?
TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
@TedDGPoulos Correct. Also, I couldn't tell for sure if ANY of those applications were actually possible. So I was pretty much making guesses about what the law might be (e.g. equation describing the behaviour of all matter and energy.), and then thinking of applications.
Yes, a couple of billion at least should, given enough time to think.
The leading physicists have very likely already done so.
The question is worthwhile. I just don't see where you're going.
Paulginz 1 year ago
@Paulginz
Keep in mind, no such claim was made. You must have simply assumed this based on the collective knowledge and familiarity we each have with Earth, Fire, Homo sapiens, etc. Which is perfectly understandable, Paul.
Relatively speaking, very few people in the world have ever even considered the question of the underlying law of nature, let alone being among those who can say they have identified it firsthand and know what it is.
TedDGPoulos 1 year ago
@TedDGPoulos
"The underlying law of nature (discovered & applied)
2003 CE"
--TedDGPoulos
Doesn't that mean that you claim that the underlying law of nature has been discovered and applied?
To know this fact, you probably also need to know the underlying law of nature itself, or at the very least seen it's application.
IMHO, there is no reason to believe that, if there is an underlying law of nature, it would be humanly intelligible.
Paulginz 1 year ago
@Paulginz
It does mean that, yes.
Remember, the subject in question is not "an underlying law of nature," as you referred to once again in your last sentence. The subject is, the underlying law of nature.
You might agree, an unintelligible (incomprehensible and non-practicable) law would be a wholly useless one.
The underlying law of nature, on the other hand, is found to hold more uses than we know what to do with, for it applies to all conceivable things ... everything and everyone.
TedDGPoulos 1 year ago