MoonFaker: TETR-A? What TETR-A?: Critique #4: Frank Byrne Revisited

[Chesterton7]

oops, i stand corrected, although i don't understand. sorry my tone was harsh. it's because ranen is super honest and he was really out to expose vonbraun for what he was

[philwebb59]

@Chesterton7 I don't question Ranen's honesty. And it's clear from his videos that I've seen, he has a sense of humor. My first impression was that "Did We Go?" was tongue in cheek, and the hype of being "xx% sure we went" was all in good fun to sell the video. As for von Braun, he was a war criminal, I agree, but a brilliant scientist nonetheless. Without him -- without the Nazi research that he was a part of -- the US would have been more than ten years behind the Soviets.

[Chesterton7]

I was there when Ranen edited the Moon film and he didn't fake a fuckin thing. You've invested a lot of pride in yourself and in your arguments, so I know u won't be able to accept that you are completely mistaken about Ranen's stuff. It's fun to watch, though, and interesting psychologically.

[philwebb59]

@Chesterton7 Umm? I didn't say Ranen "faked" anything. I just made an observation concerning the sound level at a particular point in his video. The point of this video is that it doesn't matter "if" or "why" the sound level changed; it had nothing to do with the subject of using simulated data to fool MCC controllers during the Apollo missions.

[Realitysurfer]

Hi Guys..just an FYI.,.I never fake anything in my films....But I find this clip really funny...this is Aron Ranen aka Realitysurfer on Youtube.....you will also notice that I make documentaries about a range of subjects,,,,not just the moon...I made the film about the moon because the State of Ohio paid me to make this...you guys are fun...and I love this clip....

[philwebb59]

@Realitysurfer Welcome Aron. Yes, you do have a wide range of documentaries and they seem to cause a stir. The black hair one almost caused an international incident.

[lukequixotesanjose]

@Realitysurfer

You teach documentary Aron. Wow!! I mean wow. Usually documentaries are assembled on facts. You should have considered understanding the topic of the Apollo lunar landings before you produced 'Did we go?' I'd be interested to understand the primary reason for your belief that NASA was forced to fake the missions. Care to discuss. Or did you just believe you could make money out of telling falsehoods, like Sibrel, Kaysing, Percy and Rene before you?

[pjwarez]

What I would like to know is this; in Jarrah's demonstration of "Mic Gain," his pupils are almost fully dilated even though he's in a fairly well lit room. Not making a accusations, just stating that it seems a little weird to me.

[BlisterHiker]

The sound change occuring when the camera moves closer to Frank is suspicious to say the least, even if we assume shot gun mic mounted on the camcorder was used.

Jarrah White behaves like a bad lawyer trying desperately to defend very weak case by clutching at even most irrelevant issues.

Always fun to re-visit your videos, Phil.

[occhamite]

I'd say "nice work Phil' except the low quality of your opponent's work makes your job so easy ( not really; no doubt a lot of time & tedium are involved even in dealing w/a jw)

I'll be surprised if anything changes w/his tactics. It's all he's got; put up a smoke screen of irrelevant or erroneous detail. Change the subject, evade the issue. Of course, his understanding is so poor, he probably believes some of the junk in his posts.

[Rob260259]

120dB Phil.

[ProppaGannis]

6:33. If he could answer just "The Big Question", and answer it honestly, I might have a tiny bit of hope for him. But we know he never will. That would crumble the Wholly Moron Empire and sales of tin foil hats would plummet. There would be panic and upheaval amongst the attack puppets. The whispering murmur would become a loud mumbling non sequitur followed by a phony valediction. Let me just say I will spare no expense for the flowers at that funeral.

[philwebb59]

@ProppaGannis Sales of tin foil hats would plummet? We can't have that. I just bought stock in the company after seeing their commercial.

[GoneToPlaid]

@philwebb59 Yep, I immediately bought stock in the company as well -- once I realized that the hat company is a very clever secretly financed CIA project. The antenna on top of the hat defeats the hat's shielding and feeds signals on specific frequencies in through the top of the hat. The hat then focuses the energy directly onto the medulla oblongata in order to directly control the most basic behavioral patterns of the wearer. Finally we have a way to control these conspiracy theorists!

[Tweekerhead]

Thanks guys. It's good to have smart friends . :-)

[ytmoog]

Not too observant of Jarrah there.

But I'm sure he will have a long rambling and pointless explanation for why he was actually right after all...

[philwebb59]

@ytmoog I would expect nothing less from Jarrah. That's basically what his TETR-A videos were -- long and pointless, rambling on, repeating the same thing over-and-over in a monotonous monotone.

[Tweekerhead]

Crap...I just did a little reading and I realize the answer to my questions would take far more than a 500 character limit to answer. It's hard to keep track of all these sub-atomic particles while drinking Dutch beer.

Maybe I should be the "Tommy Smothers" in this act, I'll just keep settin' em' up...and you guys just keep knockin' em' down.

[lukequixotesanjose]

@Tweekerhead

The 1 TeV particles. About 1 per year every m2. There or there abouts. Patience on the radiation series :) It's in the pipeline. These videos take a long time to make. There's a lot of crap to wade through. I mean a lot of crap.

[Zeta39Reticuli]

Apparently Jarrah has a big new series of videos dedicated to smashing your moon rock argument, or just about the moon rocks in general.

Either way, I think you made him make the series.

[tiaxanderson]

So effectively, this is the worlds first recorded attack on a straw man of a straw man of a straw man?

I suppose that's amazing of Jarrah in a way

[philwebb59]

@tiaxanderson You might be right about that.

[lukequixotesanjose]

@tiaxanderson

That's funny. I think Phil and Jarrah need to frame each video, so in the end they'll land up with 5 white frames and a little video in the middle that no one can make out.

[philwebb59]

@lukequixotesanjose Like a hall of mirrors. Hopefully, somewhere along the way he has to simply ignore me. It's kinda' hard to dig your self out of a hole when there's no bottom.

[lukequixotesanjose]

Man, that experiment by Kanagrat gave me a look into a set of eyes I never want to look into again. It was like peering into Dante's hell, seeing history's psychopaths lined up. It was truly horrid, looking into the eyes of a nutjob. He uses that line a lot, about people geting help. He needs to take a look in a mirror as that accusation is getting old. I really do hope you ignore his piddle from now on Phil. That's all he is, a long streak of piss... as we say in the UK. All front, no balls.

[Tweekerhead]

@lukequixotesanjose Luke...Shame on you. Where's that British stiff upper lip? And where's that new video on radiation?

Hey..I've sorta' parroted your aggravating question to the hoaxheads a number of times lately, the one about why 7-8cm² rated aluminum isn't enough to shield the astronauts from 10meV electrons, and it's surprising how so many dismiss me as a pedantic and never answer this question!

What does that word mean anyway? lol

I have this question for you guys, I'll continue next..

[Tweekerhead]

@lukequixotesanjose When Aldrin said that Armstrong saw about a hundred Z' particles flash across his eyes, were those particles beyond the TeV values?

They were gamma rays yes?

One more,How rare are the high energy particles that the folks at the"Fly's Eye"stations have observed & named the"Oh My God Particle",that is if you stood in one m² spot on the Moon,how long would it take for such an event to happen?50 years on average?

Hope I'm not being a pest,but I'm too lazy to research right now.

[ytmoog]

@Tweekerhead

I assume Z particle refers to a high Z number particle such as Iron or heavier.

And the Fly's Eye and similar detectors can cover many square miles of sky and rarely pick up particles of those energy levels I would guess at many years.