He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad. “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
The voice narrator that cuts into the debate said that muslims believe in the holy spirit what christians believe in.. That's simply not true..u believe gabriel is the holy spirit. Besides, didn't a pagan women re-assure that muhammad was a prophet after that terrifying encounter he had with this spirit claimed gabriel? I admit, some of the things what shamoun said was not right but Sami even made it worse. Sami claimed christians can't control themselves.. Have u seen muslims act in debates?
Brother stop using this type of language...anyways yeh we have this is some Hadiths which r man written so we cannot rely on them but it doesn't say he married her at 6.he married her when she was 9 n agreed to marry her at 6 bcoz her oarents were getting her married n tat age to some1 else... but tis was nt for pleasure it was to teach her the Islamic things so after his death she can teach people for long time....
ANYWAYS U KNW MOTHER MARY WAS 14 WHEN SHE GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS ?
Who is this sam shamoun? is he like a Christian scholar or something?. He isn't a very good Mascot for Christians though. I woudn't want to join his team based only on his manners, and his rude voice tone.
The Muslim guy sounded much more composed throughout the whole thing.
make sure that no christian listens to this video, because if they do they will leave christianity because of what sams's trashy mouth says. sam is a F****** bad example of a christian. it's ashame that some christians look up to him."
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Sami was a trashy mouth from the beginning insulting the intelligence of Sam, Sam did not start out saying Muhammad is a false prophet (Even though He is), YeshuaHUAKBAR!!!!!
I am so sad to hear this kind of debate from two men who wanted to bring glory to themselves. Neither Sam brought glory to Jesus nor Sami brought Glory to Allah! Right from the beginning of the debate ,both of them were attacking on Jesus and Allah! and finally they started to tear apart each other. Sam used some un-Christlike words and Sami too spoke a lot of bad things in a polite manner. Dear friends! God is Omnipotent. He does not need the help of His creation to prove Himself.
Yeah, there's no doubt... He also said in Revelation 1:17, 18 that, not only is He the "first and the last", but He is the "Living One", and that HE WAS DEAD, AND IS ALIVE FOREVER AND EVER
Did God ever die? But the Word of God became flesh and suffered death for all, and was raised into everlasting life that we may have the hope and assurance of the resurrection!
@krononomikon, I've read your two fallacious comments and the energy source of your poor argument is a perception such as... "can God die"?. Well logical finite physical forms can be put away but never the eternal spirit, hence Jesus was God co-existing with the flesh and put off the flesh on the cross. Muslims always have this stupid position where they think death means "ceasing of existence" including the spirit.. Silly Deedat arguments.
About what was said about the First and the Last only being God, well...you just have to read Revelation 1:11-20. There is no clearer-cut description of Jesus.
Can God the Father Almighty die? Yet here the First and the Last says that He is the one who lives, and who died, and who is alive forevermore.
Jesus there also commands the angels of the seven churches: what kind of a mere human being, prophet or no prophet, king or no king, commands angels?
if Sami's quote speaks for itself, then there would ne no reason for Osama to explain it. the holy spirit muslims believe in is Gabriel and yusuf Ali says this in his commentary. this is not the Holy Spirit that the Christians believe in. Zatary just condemned himself by blaspheming the Holy Spirit saying that it is satan. cf Mark 3:29-30 Shamoune wins.
You may dissagree with Sam's technique but he definitely has the facts on his side. This is the problem with debate. Take Zakir Naik for example, he can impress an audience by giving sura after sura but if you look them up you find they do not even relate to point he is making. No truth but the audience goes away impressed. If you look up what Sam Shamoun is teaching, yoou will realize it is truth.
what a dumb argument zattari puts forth. The Lord God is clearly establishing that he exists for all time. Context indicates that Jesus is saying that he is, was , and will come. Just like i would say im 5'11, and 180 lbs and am a human being. 3 characteristics i apply to myself. man Zattari will resort to anything to decieve people
-Joseph, Mary's husband, was "90 years old" when he married 12 year old Mary!
2-Child brides as young as 8 were common, not exceptions, among the Byzantine emperors and nobility.
3-Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!
4- People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.
Osama you really do not have balls to answer Sam)You can lie and convince yourself with that , everyone knows that Sam has lost the debate that is why he started using foul languages because he had no arguments.
@salam752 Osama edited this thing, you can tell, then He's going to say that it wasn't the Holy Spirit of Islam, that they believe in the Holy Spirit of Jews, Christians, this Sami guy NEVER said anything about him being a evil spirit, or him having a evil spirit, He YOU AND YOUR HOLY SPIRIT IS A JOKE! such hypocrisy, It's rather easy dont you think? ok, Sami said tell me where in the Bible old and new. is Jesus saying I am God, I can say the same don;t you think?
@salam752 If he can ask that question, then I can ask Him as well, Where did Jesus say I am NOT GOD. do not worship Me, Show me Muslims, and don't refer to anything Sami tried pulling on Shamoun, Because in context Sami didn't have any refutation, just attacking the nature of Sam, No concrete understanding of the texts presented, for lack of study, they pick a word, God for instance, and search every word, Jesus said the word God with, and most of the time off context, just by the literal,LOL
Check my videos and my playlist, you would find a very good refutations to your very old false allegations against Prophet muhammad, do your own research and stop being stupid parrot.
I'll admit that Sam should not have lost his cool....but the way you guys talked I thought he was going to cuss! I know Muslims too well to know that you talk like Mother Theresa! You guys can use harsher language than saying you'll "bury" someone. Sam has the same fervor for his faith as muslims do. Why the double standard?
what these pegan gentiles foget to realize is jessus own mother and family members never worshiped jessus or consedered him as a god , niether did the early christians , this is a call for trinitarian christians to study historic jessus but not from biblical and church sources , im sure you will find out the church mislead you about jessus .
Sam Shamoun, you're disgusting. For the sake of hypothetical reasoning, even if Islam wasn't the truth, we'd know that whatever religion Sam Shamoun follows is definitely not the truth.
piss and shit on your unholy spirit that shits spirit crap on you. you lost the debate as well as all the debates. don't you see the truth. don't you see the bullshit you're in. go shit on your family you shit load of fuck
saying things my friend is nothing like proving. all you got is your mouth and no proofs. but you know what may god bless you and guide you to the straight path.
'If through my falsehood God's truthfulness abounds to His glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner.' (Romans 3:7)
there is more about the deception of your man god. as well and I have exposed the evil that exist in it in my videos and I will continue exposing this unholy book as long as there is mother fucker idiots like you attacking my belief . so remove the planks( shit) from your eyes moron before you try to stick it on our purify religion.
SalAAAAAAMMMMM!!! C'mon dude. Why misquote a book you say is already corrupt? Here is the verse in it's entirety: "Someone might argue: If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"Why not say—as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say—"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved." Rom 3:7-8
@salam752 dont know what romans 3 : 7 ur reading but not the bible, as it actually says , from verse 5 but some might say our sinfulness serves a good purpose, for it helps people to see how rightesous God is. is it unfair , then, for him to punish us? ( this is merely a human point of veiw) . 6 of course not, if God were not entirely fair, then how would he be qaulify to judge the world
@followerofjesus1984 7 but some might still argue, argue how can God condemn me as a sinner if my dishonesy brings out his truefullness and brings him glory? 8 and some people might slander us by claiming that we say- the more u sin the better i is, those who say such thing deserve to be condemned
@followerofjesus1984 as usual another muslim take it out of context, its not saying we can do what ever we want, even if its being dishonest, cause we cant, and people who think this are being unjust to us and our belief, cause they do not understan, so read the who context
We do not use altaqiaya idiot and we do not have such a thing in the Quran nor in the hadits(the sayings of the prophet) but since you are following the false apostle Paul who admitted he was a liar and he used to lie in order to gain satan satisfaction so all your pauline fake religion based on lie ,according to him u have to lie and this is what exactly what your perverted priests and missionaries been doing to spread their idiotic religion.
-The Holy Name of GOD Almighty was indeed "Allah" in the original Bible
2-Jewish and Christian Arabs used the word "Allah" for GOD before Islam.
Jewish and Christian Arabs used the word "Allah" for GOD before Islam and in the Arabic version of the bible , I have proved that from THE ARAMAIC / NEO-ARAMAIC
VOCABULARY BUILDER CHRISTIANITY AND THE CHURCH site and from Hebrew names Of God sites in this video:
make sure that no christian listens to this video, because if they do they will leave christianity because of what sams's trashy mouth says. sam is a F****** bad example of a christian. it's ashame that some christians look up to him.
Sam, a great example for Christians? A trashy mouth.
He even orders Sarah like shit.
Sam I've left Christianity, you have reaffirmed by beliefs to stay away from Christianity (not based on your foul mouth, but being triumphed by the reasoning of Zataari.
Sami obviously has an extremely distorted logic and doesn't know how to quote nor read Biblical verses in context. This is the case with many false religions. Please, take a hermeneutics class and let the Bible interpret the Bible, something that Sami doesn't know how to do. In Matthew 4 satan takes Scripture out of context in an attempt to tempt the flesh that Jesus subjected Himself to so that He can pay for the sins of man. Hence the title, Son of Man. Sam uses passages in context and wins.
I am Glad we have not thrown any insults at each other, unlike this person in the video. This is how people should be like in debates not insulting one another
hmm so prophet Jonah also failed? Satan tempted him into believeing he could actually hop on a boat and hide from God? You see God's Prophets were human and were not 100% perfect like God. By the way the reason i don't believe in the bible is because it has had it's words corrupted numerous times throughout history - and therefore is not holy and is only man's word. I shall speak to you tommorow my good christian, then we can carry on with the debate. Bye have a good day/night =p
"jesus was just a human" - wait i thought u said he was God before? so why worship Jesus is he was Just a Human? why not just worship the father then?
omgo do u even read my comments i told u.. when we say jesus is god we are not referring to jesus as human we are referring to the father who was in jesus.. god the father was working in jesus .. jesus said " I am in the father and the father is in me" and "anyone who has seen me has seen the father"
oh and one more thing - "jesus was human thats why he could be tempted", so Jesus definately can't be God because he was just human and he could feel temptation
omgo and why would jesus say he was god when he was just a man and allready claimed to be the son of god.. jesus said that god the father was in him.. wich means god was at work in jesus.. thats why we say jesus is god not because of his human nature but because the father was in jesus
islam666antichrist, we are not talking about me not believing in the bible's words etc...We are talking about whether Jesus pbuh was god or not.
"because the father was in jesus" - if God was in Jesus would Jesus have felt temptation? don't make up an excuse that Jesus was still God but had a human nature which made him feel temptation - BECAUSE EVEN WITH HIS HUMAN NATURE HE WOULD NOT FEEL TEMPTATION IF GOD WAS IN HIM. But we know God was not in him because he felt temptation
"when we say jesus is god, we are referring to the father who had manifested himself in jesus and through him " - well surely the father couldn't have, as Jesus felt temptation
"he said "away with you satan" ", only a divine being (god) would not even FEEL the slightest of temptation. So Jesus can't be God because he felt temptation.
"and when we say jesus was not god we are referring to jesus human nature" - wait so you are saying God also has a Human nature? Why would God have a human nature? as a human nature in not perfect - but god is perfect. So Jesus can't be god at all if he has a human nature
we're not debating about whether or not jesus was son of god - wecan debate about that later after we finish debating about if Jesus pbuh was god or not
Hmm could you explain why Jesus is still God even when he felt the same temptation as every human being? The bible clearly says God does not feel temptation. God is a perfect supreme being - humans are not perfect and have flaws. Temptation is one of the flaws of human beings. So Jesus can't be God because God is 100% perfect and has no flaws therefore God can't be tempted but Jesus did feel temptation but he never sinned. God doesn't sin either but God doesn't also FEEl temptation either
omgo why would jesus even say that he was god? we know who jesus is from everything he said.. the jews knew very well that jesus claimed to be god and equal with god.. and did jesus ever say to them, no u misunderstood me? no.. instead jesus said "anyone who has seen me has seen the father"
ther are contradiction between your gospels. there are scientific errors not 1 or 2 so many errors that ur mouth will be open... can you attribute such things too god?? and if your man enough come then and read ezekiel chapter 23..
Islam666AntiChrist whould you like to debate with me?? in paltalk? pick who you want to help you. come i only have one question to you there and ill use your bible against you.
listen its ok u say i dont understand ok. but lets debate and let let those who listen judge... like i said i will ask u one question hehehe here is the question how can jesus(phuh) be god almighty when when he him self said i am not god.. and if jesus wass god who did he worship to? himself?? hayy go and ask any one when u are ready then tell me will debate in paltalk or wherever u wish even public debate.. if u cant debate pls pick who ever u want..
haha afglion u really think ur a big shot huh... these arguements u bring up have been adressed by thousands of christians allready in debates why dont u go watch some debates and they will answer all the arguements u wanna use
and where do u get the idea that jesus said hes not god ? when jesus was resurrected thomas called him his lord and his god and jesus said to thomas "now you have seen me and believed, blessed are those who believe and have not seen me"
Allah swt doesn't say he made someone look like Jesus but your Gospel Judas does ,they thought they had crucified Jesus but they didn't . Do you respect Judas or dislike him and why?
afglion stop talking out of ur ass and answer one time... why allah made someone look like jesus and put him on the cross instead of the real jesus ? and why allah wait 600 years to tell everyone?
There is no verse in the Quran says that Allah made someone look like Jesus , those assumptions or translation of the com mandators and its well known that most of them used the Torah to explain the story of The Quran and they mentioned that in their explanation of the Quran ,actually who says that is the gospel of Judas one of the apocryphal bibles , it says that..cont1
Jesus required a second agent to set in motion a course of events which he had planned. the Gospel of Judas appears to interpret Judas's act not as betrayal, but rather as an act of obedience to the instructions of Jesus. the question is: according to your belief ,Jesus die on the cross for your sins so this would not make Judas a betrayer ,this gospel was written 3 centuries before the time of Prophet Muhammad according to THE WASHINGTON TIME news paper , cont
The Holy Qur'an is clear that Jesus (A) wasn't crucified, that the Jews didn't kill him. It says clearly that it appeared to them that Jesus was crucified, simple and clear.
Aren't you happy that God had saved his prophet from those who wanted to kill him :
look helpgaza i dont care what ur quran says.. we believe what jesus said himself regarding his crusifxion and resurrection and not what muhammad said about it
If there is a contradiction between your gospels would you still believing that Jesus die on the cross for your sins? why did the church approve only 4 bibles and rejected the others ?! what was their criteria ?!! I advise you to go to this channel:MuslimByChoice
and watch Muslim and christians debate , be neutral if you really look for the truth .
Islam666AntiChrist who said that jesus(phuh) was the only holy prophet ?? man what are you talking about.. u just want to "debate" with me only coz ur borred u have nothing els to do and the funny part is your always wrong even u dont know what u talking about.. because belive me your knowledge of islam is very poor. you dont even know chritianity why are you talking about islam ?
"thats why jesus sometimes spoke as human and sometimes he spoke as god and made claims of divinity " funny guy where u talking from u self?? show me verse from bible where did jesus (phuh) say sometimes i speak as god and sometimes as a human..
u can also say that jesus was not god.. but the father was in jesus at work.. so what does that make jesus? why do u think jesus was concieved by the holy spirit through a virgin ? why is jesus from all the prophets the only one born from a virgin do u think ?
well don't you want everyone to know Jesus was god? Don't you want to show a 'disbeliever' like me that Jesus was God. Wouldn't christian evangelist want you to share the bible with me?
Then give me as many quotations from the bible showing Jesus was god. And i'll give you quotation from your bible showing he wasn't
Islam666AntiChrist its mentioned in the holy quran..This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. (5:3) now the choice is yours. (5:85)If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah., never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).(3:85)
Islam666AntiChrist listen either jesus(phuh) wass a god or a human son of adam just like me and you.. now u have to choose what was he god or human i knwo that you know that if you say jesus is god i will use your bible against you...
afglion ur question is stupid because christians believe jesus was both human and divine because of his 2 natures.. thats why i said jesus divine nature was the father who was in jesus
thats why jesus sometimes spoke as human and sometimes he spoke as god and made claims of divinity
jesus sometimes spoke as a normal human from his human nature.. but he also spoke gods words wich came from the father who was working in jesus
afglion even ur quran says that allah strenghtend jesus with the holy spirit... so how can jesus be strenghtend with angel jibreel? because u muslims believe angel jibreel is the holy spirit
again your talking from your self now who said that we muslims belive angle jibreel is holy ghost we muslims too belive in holy ghost but our holy ghost is not like christians i am not going to say liek yours because i dont even know if your christian.. u said i am attacking you that you know nothing am not attacking i am telling u the truth what do you want me to say?? you want me to lie and say your know everything.. i said so because i know and if u dont agree with me finr prove it.
Islam666AntiChrist wow take a look at your nick and then talk. answer my queestions or say you dont have answers instead of wastnig my time... you dont know anything about christianity u just said jesus was god and man at the same time hmmmm who is holy ghost than? well the problem with you christians is that we the muslims know your bible more than you....
the fact that u ask these standart questions about who jesus is.. shows that u dont even know what christians believe and why they believe it.. i suggest u to do some research
hahaha lemme correct you about chrsitian belives listen you said jesus was in two natures christians belive in trinnity. father son holy ghost.. they say jesus is god.(jesus knows the future.past..) go and educate your self.. you don know nothing about christianity or islam one thing is sure you hate islam well thats not enough you must educate your self otherwisse your making fun of your self here.. unlike you people here know something..
afglion is that all u can say ? that i know nothing..
u can only attack people and try to bring them down.. u cant even explain ur islam and u dont even know that there are christians who dont believe in the trinity .. so why did jesus not know about that hour if he is god? again i allready answerd u.. the father is god and he was in jesus at work but the father has not made that known to the son... u muslims cannot comprehend anything can u ?
Islam666AntiChrist. you know what u hate islam only i think your not even christian coz your knowledge about christianity is zero your making christians look bad... if you are a christian then your not the smartest christian.. haha
afglion ur showing the true face of islam and the hate fruits of islam.. by insulting me and being very arrogant .. ur the one who dont know anything about christianity and even islam
and u havent given no answer for any of my questions.. who cares that allah is god in arabic ?? allah = not yahweh wich is the only true god not ur fake allah the rock god of mecca
wow this must be a joke now comon man are you christian?? did you nkow that muslims jews and christians belibve in same god?? god in arabic = allah even if you go and look at any arabic bible you will find instead of god the use the word allah i wonder why??. you knowledge about our own religion is zero imagine you dont know who allah is.. jesus wass in two natures hahahhaha show me anywhere in bible where it says jesus where in two natures your talking from your self now.
now it suits you you say jesus spoke in human nature ok so you say that god wich is "jesus" is in human nature.. wwell who ruled the universe?? and i think i dont have to explain to you about the human nature.. what allah tricked us and waited 600 years? what are you talking about who where you get this from? do you know what your talking about??
afglion i dont tell u only what suits me.. im telling u what christians believe and that is that jesus was god in the flesh because god the father was in jesus and thats why jesus had 2 natures.. the human nature wich he got from mary and the divine nature wich he got from god
who ruled the universe ? god because god is omnipresent he has manifested himself in and through jesus .. god is not human he can be everywhere at the same time because hes the almighty god
Islam666AntiChrist go back and look how many question u asked me i answered them and then look how many i asked you u didnt even answer one of them i asked you if u knew who is allah you still dont know i am asking you answer this one do you belive that jesus(phuh) is god if yess. god is almighty he knows past present future but jesus says in the bible he doesnt....
i allready answered u .. jesus is god because the father was in jesus.. god the father was working in jesus and he was in charge.. whatever jesus said came from the father and sometimes jesus spoke from his human nature
and i told u this before.. now can u answer the question or dont u know the answer why alah tricked everyone by making someone look like jesus and put him on the cross and wait 600 years to tell us that ?
Islam666AntiChrist man change your nick show some respect.. have you ever heard me say anything about your paul?? is this what your bible teaches you?
like i said i have to teach you from the basics who is allah?? this is your homework till tomoroww if you dont know go and ask any christian arab.. i am telling you again for the 10th-time answer my question just like i answerd yours...
and in this verse (7:179)Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).
almao2006 i know brother it is mentioned about christians in quran. among them there are good christians who wants to know the truth. but its also mentioned in 2:146. "The people of the Book know this as they know their own sons; but some of them conceal the truth which they themselves know."
Islam666AntiChrist why your god deceived us all and told us 1500 years later?? 1500 years between moses and jesus.. when you talk about someels religion study carryfully your own religion first..
our god did not deceive us .. the sacrificial system in the old testement points forward to jesus .. jesus was the fullfillment of everything
but ur allah cloned jesus and put the "look a like" jesus on the cross and deceived us all even to this day all christians believe that jesus died on the cross only bcos ur allah made someone look like jesus and put him on the cross.. and then allah turns around 600yr later to tell us what really happened ?
faithsaver, Islam666AntiChrist.. i have to teach you funny guys from the basics. wow you dont even know who allah is the other guy faithsaver is talking about bismillah he dont know what it means i think he copy from a website and paste here he want to give me headache...
why dont u answer? why allah made someone look exactly like jesus and put him on the cross? why allah deceived us all and tells us about it 600 years later ?
5:73 They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
5:82 Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
what are you talking about?? typical christians i ma wasting my time with you guys.. i asked you questions about your bible funny guy u say is bismillah part of the holy quran. first of all you dont even know what bismillah means second pls don even talk about quran.. you cant answer my questions from your bible... i said read ezekiel chapter 23 u said muhammed(phuh) narrated bla bla..
Quran 5:18 (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of Allah, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"
so afglion can u explain why allah made someone look like jesus and put him on the cross instead of jesus? and why allah waited 600 years to tell us that ? coudnt allah save jesus without deceiving everyone ?
Islam666AntiChrist i feel sorry for my self talking with some1 like you are you normal?? do you know who allah is?? do you that in arabic bibles they are using the word allah instead f god? did you know that if you really want to know about allah go and ask arab-christian.. we belive in same god(allah) everytime u say allah did this allah did that your talking about your own god..
answer my question instead of saying god created jesus for bla bla bla.. when it suits you u say jesus is a man when it suits u u say jesus is god(that took human form). if he is a "god" he should know the future what will happen in the future coz god know the future but jesus is telling you that he dont know .. this is what i was talking about jesus says i dontknow the future u say no he does know the future who should i belive you or jesus(phuh)...
afglion i allready said jesus said he did not know about that hour, he said not the humans and not the angels and not even the son.. according to jesus words this shows that jesus is distinct and above all humans and all angels
and again jesus as a human did not know about that hour but again it does not mean that the father who was working in jesus did not know about the hour
the father was inn charge everything that jesus said came from the father who was working in jesus.. and if jesus did not know that hour.. this means that the father who was in jesus has not made this known to jesus the son ..
Islam666AntiChrist now change nick 1 st and take your shada(there is no god but god and muhammed is the messenger of god) there is no god but god and jesus is the messenger of god..
lemme ask u the question anyway u didnt replay. well if you say that jesus is god that can never be coz god is almighty and jesus is not according to your own bible. if you read mark 13:32 its mentioned " But of that day and that hour knoweth(when jesus will return) no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. like i said come to the true religion ..
Islam666AntiChrist god is almighty(he knows past, present and future) what about jesus did he knew past present and future?? was he almighty? answer me simpl
afglion ur referring to the last hour no one knows about the last hour no humans no angels and not even the son.. but does that mean that god the father was not in jesus ? this only shows that jesus spoke as a human from his human nature
and there are many cases that jesus did know the hearts of the people where he spoke with etc..
i said the future for gods sake is this to hard to understand for u i am typing in english comon.. from holy quran (7:179)Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).
sura al saff verse 8 (61:8) Their intention is to extinguish Allah.s Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
and afglion ofcourse god was greater then him because jesus was human he said this from his human nature .. but that does not mean that the father was not working in and through jesus..
the body is just a tool. you chritians say that jesus wass god. that came in human form. funny guy Islam666AntiChrist i have one question for u answer me will you?? if you do that i will convert to christianity right now..
so you mean when jesus doing something its actually the father wich is god??.. funniest thing ive ever heared show me where in the bible does he say father is working in me there is no verse in the bible.. please dont talk from yourself... gimmy verses from the bible when u speak otherwise,,,
Thus the present writer was astounded to find in a recent (1999) book published by Al-Hadayyah in Birmingham, UK, a four page section acknowledging that the four Sunni 'founding' Imams were in fact divided (2 and 2) over whether the bismillah is part of the 'revealed' Qur'an!
What is more astounding is that these early scholars based their decision NOT UPON THE TEXT OF THE QUR'AN as it is, but they exercised their freedom to make such an opinion ('ijtihad) based merely on the conflicting content of the Ahadith!
Matthew 12:30-32 NKJV
He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad. “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
LynElise25 4 months ago
I don't agree with the name calling that Sam did, but there is absolutely no reason to trash talk the Holy Spirit.
LynElise25 4 months ago
The muslim in this video commited the unforgivable sin that Jesus mentioned which is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
LynElise25 4 months ago
@LynElise25 and that gave the right to Sam to insult?Run away dude
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youneekk 5 months ago
The voice narrator that cuts into the debate said that muslims believe in the holy spirit what christians believe in.. That's simply not true..u believe gabriel is the holy spirit. Besides, didn't a pagan women re-assure that muhammad was a prophet after that terrifying encounter he had with this spirit claimed gabriel? I admit, some of the things what shamoun said was not right but Sami even made it worse. Sami claimed christians can't control themselves.. Have u seen muslims act in debates?
astgraphicnovel 7 months ago
@hisglorydivine
Brother stop using this type of language...anyways yeh we have this is some Hadiths which r man written so we cannot rely on them but it doesn't say he married her at 6.he married her when she was 9 n agreed to marry her at 6 bcoz her oarents were getting her married n tat age to some1 else... but tis was nt for pleasure it was to teach her the Islamic things so after his death she can teach people for long time....
ANYWAYS U KNW MOTHER MARY WAS 14 WHEN SHE GAVE BIRTH TO JESUS ?
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muslims quote out the bible,, when they want, but dont believe what it is realy saying, and sams twist its the christian view. jesus is our saviour
zimbo808 11 months ago
muslims quote out the bible,, when they want, but dont believe what it is realy saying, and sams twist its the christian view. jesus is our savior
zimbo808 11 months ago
muslims quote out the bible,, when they want, but dont believe what it is realy saying, and sams twist its the christian view.
zimbo808 11 months ago
musilims
zimbo808 11 months ago
Who is this sam shamoun? is he like a Christian scholar or something?. He isn't a very good Mascot for Christians though. I woudn't want to join his team based only on his manners, and his rude voice tone.
The Muslim guy sounded much more composed throughout the whole thing.
h2dude69 1 year ago
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make sure that no christian listens to this video, because if they do they will leave christianity because of what sams's trashy mouth says. sam is a F****** bad example of a christian. it's ashame that some christians look up to him."
HYPOCRISY^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Sami was a trashy mouth from the beginning insulting the intelligence of Sam, Sam did not start out saying Muhammad is a false prophet (Even though He is), YeshuaHUAKBAR!!!!!
elmdub 1 year ago
Muslims lost this debate
patrox247 1 year ago
I am so sad to hear this kind of debate from two men who wanted to bring glory to themselves. Neither Sam brought glory to Jesus nor Sami brought Glory to Allah! Right from the beginning of the debate ,both of them were attacking on Jesus and Allah! and finally they started to tear apart each other. Sam used some un-Christlike words and Sami too spoke a lot of bad things in a polite manner. Dear friends! God is Omnipotent. He does not need the help of His creation to prove Himself.
thenralin 1 year ago
1:44 and 2:36 cracked me up ;)
Yeah, there's no doubt... He also said in Revelation 1:17, 18 that, not only is He the "first and the last", but He is the "Living One", and that HE WAS DEAD, AND IS ALIVE FOREVER AND EVER
Did God ever die? But the Word of God became flesh and suffered death for all, and was raised into everlasting life that we may have the hope and assurance of the resurrection!
Isaiah 53:10
krononomikon 1 year ago
@krononomikon, I've read your two fallacious comments and the energy source of your poor argument is a perception such as... "can God die"?. Well logical finite physical forms can be put away but never the eternal spirit, hence Jesus was God co-existing with the flesh and put off the flesh on the cross. Muslims always have this stupid position where they think death means "ceasing of existence" including the spirit.. Silly Deedat arguments.
QuantumUni 1 year ago
@QuantumUni I think you misunderstood what I was implying! :) I am against the Muslim argument...
krononomikon 1 year ago
About what was said about the First and the Last only being God, well...you just have to read Revelation 1:11-20. There is no clearer-cut description of Jesus.
Can God the Father Almighty die? Yet here the First and the Last says that He is the one who lives, and who died, and who is alive forevermore.
Jesus there also commands the angels of the seven churches: what kind of a mere human being, prophet or no prophet, king or no king, commands angels?
You'd have to argue with the Bible itself
krononomikon 1 year ago
if Sami's quote speaks for itself, then there would ne no reason for Osama to explain it. the holy spirit muslims believe in is Gabriel and yusuf Ali says this in his commentary. this is not the Holy Spirit that the Christians believe in. Zatary just condemned himself by blaspheming the Holy Spirit saying that it is satan. cf Mark 3:29-30 Shamoune wins.
ors712 1 year ago
You may dissagree with Sam's technique but he definitely has the facts on his side. This is the problem with debate. Take Zakir Naik for example, he can impress an audience by giving sura after sura but if you look them up you find they do not even relate to point he is making. No truth but the audience goes away impressed. If you look up what Sam Shamoun is teaching, yoou will realize it is truth.
ChrAmK 1 year ago
what a dumb argument zattari puts forth. The Lord God is clearly establishing that he exists for all time. Context indicates that Jesus is saying that he is, was , and will come. Just like i would say im 5'11, and 180 lbs and am a human being. 3 characteristics i apply to myself. man Zattari will resort to anything to decieve people
ors712 1 year ago
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-Joseph, Mary's husband, was "90 years old" when he married 12 year old Mary!
2-Child brides as young as 8 were common, not exceptions, among the Byzantine emperors and nobility.
3-Prophet Muhammad's marriage with Aisha was 100% legal and acceptable by all laws and Divine Religions!
4- People used to have very short life-spans in Arabia. They used to live between 40 to 60 years maximum. So it was only normal and natural for girls to be married off at ages 9 or 10 or similar.
11101ahmed 1 year ago
Osama you really do not have balls to answer Sam)You can lie and convince yourself with that , everyone knows that Sam has lost the debate that is why he started using foul languages because he had no arguments.
salam752 1 year ago
@salam752 Osama edited this thing, you can tell, then He's going to say that it wasn't the Holy Spirit of Islam, that they believe in the Holy Spirit of Jews, Christians, this Sami guy NEVER said anything about him being a evil spirit, or him having a evil spirit, He YOU AND YOUR HOLY SPIRIT IS A JOKE! such hypocrisy, It's rather easy dont you think? ok, Sami said tell me where in the Bible old and new. is Jesus saying I am God, I can say the same don;t you think?
elmdub 1 year ago
@salam752 If he can ask that question, then I can ask Him as well, Where did Jesus say I am NOT GOD. do not worship Me, Show me Muslims, and don't refer to anything Sami tried pulling on Shamoun, Because in context Sami didn't have any refutation, just attacking the nature of Sam, No concrete understanding of the texts presented, for lack of study, they pick a word, God for instance, and search every word, Jesus said the word God with, and most of the time off context, just by the literal,LOL
elmdub 1 year ago
hisglorydivine ,
Check my videos and my playlist, you would find a very good refutations to your very old false allegations against Prophet muhammad, do your own research and stop being stupid parrot.
salam752 1 year ago
I'll admit that Sam should not have lost his cool....but the way you guys talked I thought he was going to cuss! I know Muslims too well to know that you talk like Mother Theresa! You guys can use harsher language than saying you'll "bury" someone. Sam has the same fervor for his faith as muslims do. Why the double standard?
Hazakim 2 years ago
may allah guide sam ahamoun and all of us to the strigh path...
afglionheart 2 years ago
what these pegan gentiles foget to realize is jessus own mother and family members never worshiped jessus or consedered him as a god , niether did the early christians , this is a call for trinitarian christians to study historic jessus but not from biblical and church sources , im sure you will find out the church mislead you about jessus .
99dd33y 2 years ago
The Holy Spirit of Christanity DOES NT exist as an entity.
The Holy Spirit is a biblical FART or a Gas.
jhb46 2 years ago
Sam Shamoun, you're disgusting. For the sake of hypothetical reasoning, even if Islam wasn't the truth, we'd know that whatever religion Sam Shamoun follows is definitely not the truth.
oombuddah 2 years ago
Indeed, Sam Shamoun is disgusting. Filthy Christian.
jhb46 2 years ago
salam alaikum please dont use profanity like the christian kaffirs let them do it.
ryukenb2k 2 years ago
piss and shit on your unholy spirit that shits spirit crap on you. you lost the debate as well as all the debates. don't you see the truth. don't you see the bullshit you're in. go shit on your family you shit load of fuck
anji0san 2 years ago
saying things my friend is nothing like proving. all you got is your mouth and no proofs. but you know what may god bless you and guide you to the straight path.
abunajeeb08 2 years ago
'If through my falsehood God's truthfulness abounds to His glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner.' (Romans 3:7)
there is more about the deception of your man god. as well and I have exposed the evil that exist in it in my videos and I will continue exposing this unholy book as long as there is mother fucker idiots like you attacking my belief . so remove the planks( shit) from your eyes moron before you try to stick it on our purify religion.
salam752 2 years ago
Salam...you knock Sam for his attitude (and rightfully so) but are you better? Your speech makes him look like a schoolgirl!
Hazakim 2 years ago
SalAAAAAAMMMMM!!! C'mon dude. Why misquote a book you say is already corrupt? Here is the verse in it's entirety: "Someone might argue: If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?"Why not say—as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say—"Let us do evil that good may result"? Their condemnation is deserved." Rom 3:7-8
Hazakim 2 years ago
@salam752 dont know what romans 3 : 7 ur reading but not the bible, as it actually says , from verse 5 but some might say our sinfulness serves a good purpose, for it helps people to see how rightesous God is. is it unfair , then, for him to punish us? ( this is merely a human point of veiw) . 6 of course not, if God were not entirely fair, then how would he be qaulify to judge the world
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 7 but some might still argue, argue how can God condemn me as a sinner if my dishonesy brings out his truefullness and brings him glory? 8 and some people might slander us by claiming that we say- the more u sin the better i is, those who say such thing deserve to be condemned
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
@followerofjesus1984 as usual another muslim take it out of context, its not saying we can do what ever we want, even if its being dishonest, cause we cant, and people who think this are being unjust to us and our belief, cause they do not understan, so read the who context
followerofjesus1984 1 year ago
We do not use altaqiaya idiot and we do not have such a thing in the Quran nor in the hadits(the sayings of the prophet) but since you are following the false apostle Paul who admitted he was a liar and he used to lie in order to gain satan satisfaction so all your pauline fake religion based on lie ,according to him u have to lie and this is what exactly what your perverted priests and missionaries been doing to spread their idiotic religion.
salam752 2 years ago
-The Holy Name of GOD Almighty was indeed "Allah" in the original Bible
2-Jewish and Christian Arabs used the word "Allah" for GOD before Islam.
Jewish and Christian Arabs used the word "Allah" for GOD before Islam and in the Arabic version of the bible , I have proved that from THE ARAMAIC / NEO-ARAMAIC
VOCABULARY BUILDER CHRISTIANITY AND THE CHURCH site and from Hebrew names Of God sites in this video:
Fake Ex Muslim Exposed-Rachid.P1
salam752 2 years ago
make sure that no christian listens to this video, because if they do they will leave christianity because of what sams's trashy mouth says. sam is a F****** bad example of a christian. it's ashame that some christians look up to him.
abunajeeb08 2 years ago 7
dam that sam shamoun is really mad,i think it's because he's getting smashed, i know it's really sad to lose.
abunajeeb08 2 years ago 2
Sam, a great example for Christians? A trashy mouth.
He even orders Sarah like shit.
Sam I've left Christianity, you have reaffirmed by beliefs to stay away from Christianity (not based on your foul mouth, but being triumphed by the reasoning of Zataari.
brianfighter75 2 years ago 11
Sam Shamoun lost his cool. He cannot debate.
You are right.
jhb46 2 years ago
@brianfighter75 I guarantee you weren't even a Christian. Try to refute that...
divud123 1 year ago
@brianfighter75 Really???!!!! on what reasoning did Sami convince you?
astgraphicnovel 7 months ago
good job sam shamoun for dotting them.
Brrup 2 years ago
Sami obviously has an extremely distorted logic and doesn't know how to quote nor read Biblical verses in context. This is the case with many false religions. Please, take a hermeneutics class and let the Bible interpret the Bible, something that Sami doesn't know how to do. In Matthew 4 satan takes Scripture out of context in an attempt to tempt the flesh that Jesus subjected Himself to so that He can pay for the sins of man. Hence the title, Son of Man. Sam uses passages in context and wins.
HolyLytning 2 years ago
Sam is soooo Lost. Devil won over him. Save yourselves. Realy2 pray for the truth.
alnamuz 2 years ago
have a good day/night. we'll carry on tomorrow
omgodsword 2 years ago
I am Glad we have not thrown any insults at each other, unlike this person in the video. This is how people should be like in debates not insulting one another
omgodsword 2 years ago
jesus proved us that he could not be tempted but muhammad failed because he spoke the words of satan one time
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
hmm so prophet Jonah also failed? Satan tempted him into believeing he could actually hop on a boat and hide from God? You see God's Prophets were human and were not 100% perfect like God. By the way the reason i don't believe in the bible is because it has had it's words corrupted numerous times throughout history - and therefore is not holy and is only man's word. I shall speak to you tommorow my good christian, then we can carry on with the debate. Bye have a good day/night =p
omgodsword 2 years ago
jesus was only interested in one thing and that was to do the work that the father gave him to do..
and jesus has proved us that he was only interested in where he was send for
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
and jesus was not even tempted the greek word is tested.. jesus had no desire in him to sin.. so he wasnt even really tempted by satan
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
"jesus was just a human" - wait i thought u said he was God before? so why worship Jesus is he was Just a Human? why not just worship the father then?
omgodsword 2 years ago
omgo do u even read my comments i told u.. when we say jesus is god we are not referring to jesus as human we are referring to the father who was in jesus.. god the father was working in jesus .. jesus said " I am in the father and the father is in me" and "anyone who has seen me has seen the father"
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
Even the SON OF GOD would not feel temptation. The son of God would also be Divine - but Jesus felt temptation so he can't be son of God either
omgodsword 2 years ago
omgo jesus was human thats why he could be tempted and god allowed satan to tempt jesus
u are making up ur own truths
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
oh and one more thing - "jesus was human thats why he could be tempted", so Jesus definately can't be God because he was just human and he could feel temptation
omgodsword 2 years ago
first u have to show me that jesus really felt the temptation.. and second god allowed jesus to be tempted as i said my friend.. goodnight
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
omgo god does not have a human nature.. jesus was just a human but the father had manifested himself in and through jesus
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
omgo and why would jesus say he was god when he was just a man and allready claimed to be the son of god.. jesus said that god the father was in him.. wich means god was at work in jesus.. thats why we say jesus is god not because of his human nature but because the father was in jesus
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
islam666antichrist, we are not talking about me not believing in the bible's words etc...We are talking about whether Jesus pbuh was god or not.
"because the father was in jesus" - if God was in Jesus would Jesus have felt temptation? don't make up an excuse that Jesus was still God but had a human nature which made him feel temptation - BECAUSE EVEN WITH HIS HUMAN NATURE HE WOULD NOT FEEL TEMPTATION IF GOD WAS IN HIM. But we know God was not in him because he felt temptation
omgodsword 2 years ago
ofcourse he felt temptation because he was human and god allowed satan to test jesus
and do u even know why satan tested jesus? to see if jesus really was the son of god, thats why
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
Wait, didn't you say Jesus was God earlier now you're saying he is the son of god?
omgodsword 2 years ago
ofcourse jesus is the son of god and god considers jesus has his only / unique son
and when we say jesus was not god we are referring to jesus human nature
and when we say jesus is god we are referring to the father who manifested himself in and through jesus
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
you're very confusing indeed. At one point you say Jesus is the Son of God and at another point you say he IS god?
omgodsword 2 years ago
yes jesus is the son of god because god the father considers jesus as his son
and when we say jesus is god, we are referring to the father who had manifested himself in jesus and through him
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
"when we say jesus is god, we are referring to the father who had manifested himself in jesus and through him " - well surely the father couldn't have, as Jesus felt temptation
omgodsword 2 years ago
omgo jesus did not even let himself get tempted.. he said "away with you satan"
and again god allowed jesus to be tempted whats so hard to understand about that?
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
"he said "away with you satan" ", only a divine being (god) would not even FEEL the slightest of temptation. So Jesus can't be God because he felt temptation.
omgodsword 2 years ago
omgo who says jesus felt temptation? if i tempt someone with a chocolate but the person hates chocolate.. is that person really tempted?
and again u dont seem to get it.. god allowed satan to make his offer to jesus so that jesus could turn him down
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
"and when we say jesus was not god we are referring to jesus human nature" - wait so you are saying God also has a Human nature? Why would God have a human nature? as a human nature in not perfect - but god is perfect. So Jesus can't be god at all if he has a human nature
omgodsword 2 years ago
we're not debating about whether or not jesus was son of god - wecan debate about that later after we finish debating about if Jesus pbuh was god or not
omgodsword 2 years ago
Hmm could you explain why Jesus is still God even when he felt the same temptation as every human being? The bible clearly says God does not feel temptation. God is a perfect supreme being - humans are not perfect and have flaws. Temptation is one of the flaws of human beings. So Jesus can't be God because God is 100% perfect and has no flaws therefore God can't be tempted but Jesus did feel temptation but he never sinned. God doesn't sin either but God doesn't also FEEl temptation either
omgodsword 2 years ago
again god allowed satan to test jesus
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
wait you said Jesus was God? so why would God test himself?
omgodsword 2 years ago
unless you are talking about the holy trinity. But why would the holy trinity test itself either?
omgodsword 2 years ago
im not talking about the trinity im not a trinitarian
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
omgo why would jesus even say that he was god? we know who jesus is from everything he said.. the jews knew very well that jesus claimed to be god and equal with god.. and did jesus ever say to them, no u misunderstood me? no.. instead jesus said "anyone who has seen me has seen the father"
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
hahahah Islam666AntiChrist man u guys can not debate.
afglionheart 2 years ago
ther are contradiction between your gospels. there are scientific errors not 1 or 2 so many errors that ur mouth will be open... can you attribute such things too god?? and if your man enough come then and read ezekiel chapter 23..
afglionheart 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist whould you like to debate with me?? in paltalk? pick who you want to help you. come i only have one question to you there and ill use your bible against you.
I cant talk to you here, you swear at me.
afglionheart 2 years ago
haha how can u use the bible against me if u dont even understand what u read in the bible afglion come on
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
listen its ok u say i dont understand ok. but lets debate and let let those who listen judge... like i said i will ask u one question hehehe here is the question how can jesus(phuh) be god almighty when when he him self said i am not god.. and if jesus wass god who did he worship to? himself?? hayy go and ask any one when u are ready then tell me will debate in paltalk or wherever u wish even public debate.. if u cant debate pls pick who ever u want..
afglionheart 2 years ago
haha afglion u really think ur a big shot huh... these arguements u bring up have been adressed by thousands of christians allready in debates why dont u go watch some debates and they will answer all the arguements u wanna use
and where do u get the idea that jesus said hes not god ? when jesus was resurrected thomas called him his lord and his god and jesus said to thomas "now you have seen me and believed, blessed are those who believe and have not seen me"
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
and why has allah not clearly in detail explained what happened regarding jesus crusifixion ?
why is there only one aya about jesus crusixion in the quran ? its very strange
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
ur islamic sources say that allah made someone else look like jesus and put him on the cross
and ur quran says "it was made to appear to them" well who made it appear to them ? allah
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
Allah swt doesn't say he made someone look like Jesus but your Gospel Judas does ,they thought they had crucified Jesus but they didn't . Do you respect Judas or dislike him and why?
HelpGazanow 2 years ago
afglion stop talking out of ur ass and answer one time... why allah made someone look like jesus and put him on the cross instead of the real jesus ? and why allah wait 600 years to tell everyone?
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
There is no verse in the Quran says that Allah made someone look like Jesus , those assumptions or translation of the com mandators and its well known that most of them used the Torah to explain the story of The Quran and they mentioned that in their explanation of the Quran ,actually who says that is the gospel of Judas one of the apocryphal bibles , it says that..cont1
HelpGazanow 2 years ago
Jesus required a second agent to set in motion a course of events which he had planned. the Gospel of Judas appears to interpret Judas's act not as betrayal, but rather as an act of obedience to the instructions of Jesus. the question is: according to your belief ,Jesus die on the cross for your sins so this would not make Judas a betrayer ,this gospel was written 3 centuries before the time of Prophet Muhammad according to THE WASHINGTON TIME news paper , cont
HelpGazanow 2 years ago
so this forbidden Gospel wasn't written by Muslims as they claimed about the gospel of Barnabas when they got cornered
HelpGazanow 2 years ago
why ur allah made it appear to them as if it was jesus on the cross ?
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
The Holy Qur'an is clear that Jesus (A) wasn't crucified, that the Jews didn't kill him. It says clearly that it appeared to them that Jesus was crucified, simple and clear.
Aren't you happy that God had saved his prophet from those who wanted to kill him :
HelpGazanow 2 years ago 2
look helpgaza i dont care what ur quran says.. we believe what jesus said himself regarding his crusifxion and resurrection and not what muhammad said about it
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
If there is a contradiction between your gospels would you still believing that Jesus die on the cross for your sins? why did the church approve only 4 bibles and rejected the others ?! what was their criteria ?!! I advise you to go to this channel:MuslimByChoice
and watch Muslim and christians debate , be neutral if you really look for the truth .
peace
HelpGazanow 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist who said that jesus(phuh) was the only holy prophet ?? man what are you talking about.. u just want to "debate" with me only coz ur borred u have nothing els to do and the funny part is your always wrong even u dont know what u talking about.. because belive me your knowledge of islam is very poor. you dont even know chritianity why are you talking about islam ?
afglionheart 2 years ago
gabriel said to mary that she would give birth to the son of god and that jesus would be holy
so jesus is the only prophet thats holy isnt that interesting ? i think it is
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
"thats why jesus sometimes spoke as human and sometimes he spoke as god and made claims of divinity " funny guy where u talking from u self?? show me verse from bible where did jesus (phuh) say sometimes i speak as god and sometimes as a human..
afglionheart 2 years ago
u can also say that jesus was not god.. but the father was in jesus at work.. so what does that make jesus? why do u think jesus was concieved by the holy spirit through a virgin ? why is jesus from all the prophets the only one born from a virgin do u think ?
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
islam666christ - you give me quotes from the bible showing Jesus was God. And try and find a quote with Jesus actually saying he was god.
And i'll give YOU quotes from YOUR bible clearly showing Jesus was not god.
omgodsword 2 years ago
i dont give u anything because u dont believe jesus words
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
well don't you want everyone to know Jesus was god? Don't you want to show a 'disbeliever' like me that Jesus was God. Wouldn't christian evangelist want you to share the bible with me?
Then give me as many quotations from the bible showing Jesus was god. And i'll give you quotation from your bible showing he wasn't
omgodsword 2 years ago
omgo u dont believe jesus words.. u dont the prophecies that jesus fullfilled
u dont believe jesus claimed to be the son of god
and u dont believe jesus spoke about his crusifixion and resurrection before it happened?
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
P.S. it would give you more points if you actually find a quotation from the holy bible that has Jesus personally saying he was God.
omgodsword 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist its mentioned in the holy quran..This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favor upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. (5:3) now the choice is yours. (5:85)If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah., never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good).(3:85)
afglionheart 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist listen either jesus(phuh) wass a god or a human son of adam just like me and you.. now u have to choose what was he god or human i knwo that you know that if you say jesus is god i will use your bible against you...
afglionheart 2 years ago
afglion ur question is stupid because christians believe jesus was both human and divine because of his 2 natures.. thats why i said jesus divine nature was the father who was in jesus
thats why jesus sometimes spoke as human and sometimes he spoke as god and made claims of divinity
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
jesus sometimes spoke as a normal human from his human nature.. but he also spoke gods words wich came from the father who was working in jesus
afglion even ur quran says that allah strenghtend jesus with the holy spirit... so how can jesus be strenghtend with angel jibreel? because u muslims believe angel jibreel is the holy spirit
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
again your talking from your self now who said that we muslims belive angle jibreel is holy ghost we muslims too belive in holy ghost but our holy ghost is not like christians i am not going to say liek yours because i dont even know if your christian.. u said i am attacking you that you know nothing am not attacking i am telling u the truth what do you want me to say?? you want me to lie and say your know everything.. i said so because i know and if u dont agree with me finr prove it.
afglionheart 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist wow take a look at your nick and then talk. answer my queestions or say you dont have answers instead of wastnig my time... you dont know anything about christianity u just said jesus was god and man at the same time hmmmm who is holy ghost than? well the problem with you christians is that we the muslims know your bible more than you....
afglionheart 2 years ago
hahaha good one... are u wearing ur funny pants?
the fact that u ask these standart questions about who jesus is.. shows that u dont even know what christians believe and why they believe it.. i suggest u to do some research
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
hahaha lemme correct you about chrsitian belives listen you said jesus was in two natures christians belive in trinnity. father son holy ghost.. they say jesus is god.(jesus knows the future.past..) go and educate your self.. you don know nothing about christianity or islam one thing is sure you hate islam well thats not enough you must educate your self otherwisse your making fun of your self here.. unlike you people here know something..
afglionheart 2 years ago
afglion is that all u can say ? that i know nothing..
u can only attack people and try to bring them down.. u cant even explain ur islam and u dont even know that there are christians who dont believe in the trinity .. so why did jesus not know about that hour if he is god? again i allready answerd u.. the father is god and he was in jesus at work but the father has not made that known to the son... u muslims cannot comprehend anything can u ?
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist. you know what u hate islam only i think your not even christian coz your knowledge about christianity is zero your making christians look bad... if you are a christian then your not the smartest christian.. haha
afglionheart 2 years ago
afglion ur showing the true face of islam and the hate fruits of islam.. by insulting me and being very arrogant .. ur the one who dont know anything about christianity and even islam
and u havent given no answer for any of my questions.. who cares that allah is god in arabic ?? allah = not yahweh wich is the only true god not ur fake allah the rock god of mecca
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
wow this must be a joke now comon man are you christian?? did you nkow that muslims jews and christians belibve in same god?? god in arabic = allah even if you go and look at any arabic bible you will find instead of god the use the word allah i wonder why??. you knowledge about our own religion is zero imagine you dont know who allah is.. jesus wass in two natures hahahhaha show me anywhere in bible where it says jesus where in two natures your talking from your self now.
afglionheart 2 years ago
afglion ur allah is not my allah .. ur allah deceived everyone by making someone look like jesus and put him instead of the real jesus on the cross
and then waits 600years to tell us this.. i cant believe in a god who deceives everyone for no reason
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
answer me man iwho is allah?? as i told you before you dont know go and ask any christian arab...
afglionheart 2 years ago
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afglionheart 2 years ago
now it suits you you say jesus spoke in human nature ok so you say that god wich is "jesus" is in human nature.. wwell who ruled the universe?? and i think i dont have to explain to you about the human nature.. what allah tricked us and waited 600 years? what are you talking about who where you get this from? do you know what your talking about??
afglionheart 2 years ago
afglion i dont tell u only what suits me.. im telling u what christians believe and that is that jesus was god in the flesh because god the father was in jesus and thats why jesus had 2 natures.. the human nature wich he got from mary and the divine nature wich he got from god
who ruled the universe ? god because god is omnipresent he has manifested himself in and through jesus .. god is not human he can be everywhere at the same time because hes the almighty god
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist go back and look how many question u asked me i answered them and then look how many i asked you u didnt even answer one of them i asked you if u knew who is allah you still dont know i am asking you answer this one do you belive that jesus(phuh) is god if yess. god is almighty he knows past present future but jesus says in the bible he doesnt....
afglionheart 2 years ago
i allready answered u .. jesus is god because the father was in jesus.. god the father was working in jesus and he was in charge.. whatever jesus said came from the father and sometimes jesus spoke from his human nature
and i told u this before.. now can u answer the question or dont u know the answer why alah tricked everyone by making someone look like jesus and put him on the cross and wait 600 years to tell us that ?
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
yes this is what my bible teaches me to recognize the antichrist and lies from shaytan the bible warns us for false prophets like muhammad
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist man change your nick show some respect.. have you ever heard me say anything about your paul?? is this what your bible teaches you?
afglionheart 2 years ago
like i said i have to teach you from the basics who is allah?? this is your homework till tomoroww if you dont know go and ask any christian arab.. i am telling you again for the 10th-time answer my question just like i answerd yours...
afglionheart 2 years ago
i answered ur questions but u dont answer me
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
or should i say instead of liar a deceiver who deceived everyone for 600 years ? if that makes it better ..
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
and in this verse (7:179)Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).
afglionheart 2 years ago
almao2006 i know brother it is mentioned about christians in quran. among them there are good christians who wants to know the truth. but its also mentioned in 2:146. "The people of the Book know this as they know their own sons; but some of them conceal the truth which they themselves know."
afglionheart 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist man answer my questions i have asked you alot but u havent even answered one of em,
afglionheart 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist why your god deceived us all and told us 1500 years later?? 1500 years between moses and jesus.. when you talk about someels religion study carryfully your own religion first..
afglionheart 2 years ago
our god did not deceive us .. the sacrificial system in the old testement points forward to jesus .. jesus was the fullfillment of everything
but ur allah cloned jesus and put the "look a like" jesus on the cross and deceived us all even to this day all christians believe that jesus died on the cross only bcos ur allah made someone look like jesus and put him on the cross.. and then allah turns around 600yr later to tell us what really happened ?
how can u believe in a god thats a liar ?
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
faithsaver, Islam666AntiChrist.. i have to teach you funny guys from the basics. wow you dont even know who allah is the other guy faithsaver is talking about bismillah he dont know what it means i think he copy from a website and paste here he want to give me headache...
afglionheart 2 years ago
why dont u answer? why allah made someone look exactly like jesus and put him on the cross? why allah deceived us all and tells us about it 600 years later ?
and no the name of god is yahweh not allah..
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
Quran
5:73 They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
Read the Quran carrefuly Brother:
almao2006 2 years ago
Brother read the Quran carrefuly:
Quran
5:82 Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.
They are not arrogant for the truth!!!!!!!!
almao2006 2 years ago
faithsaver
" Is The Bismillah Part Of The Qur'an? "
what are you talking about?? typical christians i ma wasting my time with you guys.. i asked you questions about your bible funny guy u say is bismillah part of the holy quran. first of all you dont even know what bismillah means second pls don even talk about quran.. you cant answer my questions from your bible... i said read ezekiel chapter 23 u said muhammed(phuh) narrated bla bla..
afglionheart 2 years ago
@afglion....
Brother Christians are the Nearst to us!!!!
Which Denomination you mean???
Quran 5:18 (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of Allah, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to Allah belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"
almao2006 2 years ago
almoa jesus himself called god his father and not allah
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
so afglion can u explain why allah made someone look like jesus and put him on the cross instead of jesus? and why allah waited 600 years to tell us that ? coudnt allah save jesus without deceiving everyone ?
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist i feel sorry for my self talking with some1 like you are you normal?? do you know who allah is?? do you that in arabic bibles they are using the word allah instead f god? did you know that if you really want to know about allah go and ask arab-christian.. we belive in same god(allah) everytime u say allah did this allah did that your talking about your own god..
afglionheart 2 years ago
what are you talking about what??????
answer my question instead of saying god created jesus for bla bla bla.. when it suits you u say jesus is a man when it suits u u say jesus is god(that took human form). if he is a "god" he should know the future what will happen in the future coz god know the future but jesus is telling you that he dont know .. this is what i was talking about jesus says i dontknow the future u say no he does know the future who should i belive you or jesus(phuh)...
afglionheart 2 years ago
afglion i allready said jesus said he did not know about that hour, he said not the humans and not the angels and not even the son.. according to jesus words this shows that jesus is distinct and above all humans and all angels
and again jesus as a human did not know about that hour but again it does not mean that the father who was working in jesus did not know about the hour
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
the father is god and not jesus human nature..
the father was inn charge everything that jesus said came from the father who was working in jesus.. and if jesus did not know that hour.. this means that the father who was in jesus has not made this known to jesus the son ..
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
jesus is the sinless son that was created by the father for our sins and the father manifested himself in jesus and through the holy spirit
and this is the truth.. take ur shada and acknoledge that jesus is lord and god raised him from the death . amen
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist now change nick 1 st and take your shada(there is no god but god and muhammed is the messenger of god) there is no god but god and jesus is the messenger of god..
afglionheart 2 years ago
lemme ask u the question anyway u didnt replay. well if you say that jesus is god that can never be coz god is almighty and jesus is not according to your own bible. if you read mark 13:32 its mentioned " But of that day and that hour knoweth(when jesus will return) no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. like i said come to the true religion ..
afglionheart 2 years ago
yess or no
afglionheart 2 years ago
Islam666AntiChrist god is almighty(he knows past, present and future) what about jesus did he knew past present and future?? was he almighty? answer me simpl
afglionheart 2 years ago
afglion ur referring to the last hour no one knows about the last hour no humans no angels and not even the son.. but does that mean that god the father was not in jesus ? this only shows that jesus spoke as a human from his human nature
and there are many cases that jesus did know the hearts of the people where he spoke with etc..
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
i said the future for gods sake is this to hard to understand for u i am typing in english comon.. from holy quran (7:179)Many are the Jinns and men we have made for Hell: They have hearts wherewith they understand not, eyes wherewith they see not, and ears wherewith they hear not. They are like cattle,- nay more misguided: for they are heedless (of warning).
afglionheart 2 years ago
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sura al saff verse 8 (61:8) Their intention is to extinguish Allah.s Light (by blowing) with their mouths: But Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
afglionheart 2 years ago
and afglion ofcourse god was greater then him because jesus was human he said this from his human nature .. but that does not mean that the father was not working in and through jesus..
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
the body is just a tool. you chritians say that jesus wass god. that came in human form. funny guy Islam666AntiChrist i have one question for u answer me will you?? if you do that i will convert to christianity right now..
afglionheart 2 years ago
"you chritians say that jesus wass god. that came in human form"
thats what i said the father was working in jesus
jesus said that everything that he said was because of the father who was working in jesus
Islam666AntiChrist 2 years ago
so you mean when jesus doing something its actually the father wich is god??.. funniest thing ive ever heared show me where in the bible does he say father is working in me there is no verse in the bible.. please dont talk from yourself... gimmy verses from the bible when u speak otherwise,,,
afglionheart 2 years ago
Is The Bismillah Part Of The Qur'an?
Thus the present writer was astounded to find in a recent (1999) book published by Al-Hadayyah in Birmingham, UK, a four page section acknowledging that the four Sunni 'founding' Imams were in fact divided (2 and 2) over whether the bismillah is part of the 'revealed' Qur'an!
faithsaver 2 years ago
Is The Bismillah Part Of The Qur'an?
What is more astounding is that these early scholars based their decision NOT UPON THE TEXT OF THE QUR'AN as it is, but they exercised their freedom to make such an opinion ('ijtihad) based merely on the conflicting content of the Ahadith!
faithsaver 2 years ago