160 people including myself received a notification from Google Legal that a lawyer representing YouTube user yahsladynred wants our private docs. The people on that subpoena have done nothing to warrant legal action against them. It is just a malicious abuse of the legal system to harrass people she doesn't like. She nor her lawyer has any legal right to our docs, and she has placed a comment on YouTube saying our full legal names would be published. The system is flawed!
WHAT IS CONSIDERED FALSE? a small company i never heard of till i googled them? and what did i know as the video was 50 years old 3 minute clip? (music video)
Well I recently got a DMCA cause I was doing videos wondering what really happened to Jesse Woodrow, cause some people think the illuminati got him or something else happened to him.
All I did was use a picture which was an advertisement he was part of, and talked about how peculiar it was in a video, and I was slapped with a DMCA for showing it for a few seconds.
I have seen the idea that if someone files a DMCA that is false, there is recourse you can take to get the file lifted. If it is that obvious that its some guy in a cafe that ran away after he did it giggling like a school girl, youtube will go "Oh so that was bogus." and the flag will be lifted. Pain in the ass but nothing can really come of it of you are falsely accused. Still its annoying and there should be a better way of controlling such actions.
I'd like to agree with T3hFatass about his idea of how anyone can avoid the DMCA banning their channel, but however this does bring up that if this same person who does this; may not be able to make a video on their channel, not a single one. If a person is going to be able to file a DMCA then they should be subject to one also to keep everything fair. Youtube can get around the false DMCA's at cyber cafes by only allowing people with at least one video able to file them.
lol. Just go to starbucks make your account there. So now when youtube gives person A your IP Adress, you just get the IP adress from Starbuck's ISP. Easy as that.
So many people file DMCA's now, and no one can or will ever stop them. This thing may be retarded, but I can think of at least several hundred videos that I would love to see false DMCA claims filed against for the good of the internet...
My question is: there have been so many obvious cases of flase DMCAs, yet I have NEVER heard of anyone facing real consequences, why is this? PCS got off with a disengenuous "apology", WTF? Whether or not Thundef00t accepted his apology, he KNOWINGLY comitted FRAUD, this is a crime, is it not? Does anyone know of any false DMCAer who has ever faced serious consequences?
Some people i love on youtube have besan effected by this i. e. MexicanSunflower. CommanderGwonam and MSTRadock to name a few. And all of it is being done by this troll named CTFCGames. He thinks he's cool. I'll be laughing when he gets thrown into jail.
michael geist from McGill University > teens have lost respect for copyright, he lays much of the blame at the feet of the recording industry for their failure to adapt to the online marketplace in the mid-1990s.
Personally i could care less really all these laws that maintain super sized corporations at the serfs and peons expense is rather amusing.. im only here for 100 years at most.. sit back and laugh at these control freaks.. lol
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Repent Amarillo just nailed 2 of my vids on DMCA, they got 3 vids taken down on the AtheistAtLARGE account, the same 2 that were DMCAd on the DEBATE FAITH account were cited for dropping docs and were removed, the 3rd was taken down for TOS violation
The video that was taken down for TOS violation is still up on this channel, not sure for how long, if anyone wants to mirror it, please do, more vids coming soon
"Lets combat shitty laws with MOAR SHITTY LAWS!!!"
I know thats the only rationale they have in England, but I'd expect more from Americans. How about getting the fuck rid of copyright bullshit on the internet? I don't see the aclu protecting me from getting banned. So consider the internet an anarchist blackhole. Like the rain forest on crack.
"Lets combat shitty laws with MOAR SHITTY LAWS!!!"
I know thats the only rationale they have in England, but I'd expect more from Americans. How about getting the fuck rid of copyright bullshit on the internet? I don't see the aclu protecting me from getting banned. So consider the internet an anarchist blackhole. Like the rain forest on crack.
"Lets combat shitty laws with MOAR SHITTY LAWS!!!"
I know thats the only rationale they have in England, but I'd expect more from Americans. How about getting the fuck rid of copyright bullshit on the internet? I don't see the aclu protecting me from getting banned. So consider the internet an anarchist blackhole. Like the rain forest on crack.
@SeeingUFOzPA If enough people are interested in it, it can be a serious case, it sets a precedent. That's how law works. If enough groups are interested in such a case, it can easily be taken to the supreme court, not because the plaintiff's complaint itself. Once they decide whether filing false DMCA is wrong under specific circumstances, future law cases will use that decision in their arguments.
As far as I know, only the owner or a representative of the owner can do such a thing.
Basically, if you compose and play a song and sell it online; it's your right to do that, since you're the owner. It's copyrighted to you.
However, if I then buy the song and put it on my server and make it freely available to everyone without your permission, you may file a DMCA against me, as I'm robbing you of your income from sales of your song.
You are aware, that most people know that a lot of the comments posted on your channel by "different people", are posted by you. Are you really that insecure? What are you doing? How many accounts do you have? Trying to make yourself look popular with this sort of behaviour! Well its sad. Quit while youre ahead and try to retain some dignity!
And always remember those false claims and those dice.
Firstly Alison's crew? I'm not sure what that means. When I said banned, I meant banned from your channel. I seem to remember you moaning about Alison banning people. Yet you do the same thing. As far as UFO's go, I really couldn't care less about them. I just like to watch other peoples videos. Are they real? I don't know. For me, Alison's videos are Interesting. My issue with you is your bullying.
Youre a coward! You haven't even got the balls, to have a look for yourself!
I see you have been giving out about Alison blocking people from her channel! That's probably because of the abuse she has been getting from you and your sort.
But tell me this, why have I been blocked from your channel? Is because I won a debate with you without once being abusive, and your only agrument was to call me a retard! You then went on to remove my comments in said debate. Was this to save you embarrassment?
i have 3 of those false dmca filed against me on my other channel which got suspended the odd thing is that i never upload vid on that channel wtf youtube is full of weird stuff
Has anything ever happened legal wise to these turds they try to censor others with false DMCAs? Did VenomFang get in legal trouble over his assholery?
I set out to debunk a athiest youtuber named calpurnpiso As a greek pagan I thought that I would be in a good postition to do so because without the greeks athiests would not even exist. Look it up. Anywas to make a long story short. His answer was to take out Jesus, insert retard, and block me. I give his response a 70. As in IQ of 70. Thats ok some of my best friends are retards. Please unblock me and have a discussion. I will even subscribe.
i filed a counter DMCA against WWE because my video mash up of the rock got taken down 2 years ago and my account was 1 letter. did i just file a false DMCA, because a couple of places say video mash ups (short clips mashed together) are under fair use.
lol i think its funny when a smug bastard that serves false dmcas gets either heavily fined or jailed because he couldnt just keep his fingers away from the flag button
I can tell you 20 different ways to anonymously "serf" the web and for that matter watch the cops knock on the door of the across the street.Moreover now a days it is pretty strait forward and theirs programs to do it. google backtrack to get in to the more in depth parts of IT security
Yet needless to say i think digital millennium copyright act is a fucking joke as is the "patriot" act. These are government tools that give the false pretense of security but really hamper freedom inch by inch
I recommend to not be found out, you should go to a public library, (where you can just get on a computer without logging in or anything), sign up for an email, sign up for youtube, file the DMCA with false information, and you'll never get caught.
If UTube did not take every DMCA claim at face vale, and looked to see if the accusers accusations were valid beforehand we would not have this problem!
Well anyone with half a brain can easily avoid any detection by creating a fake account and filing the DMCA from a internet cafe or any public wireless access point, so even if someone bothers to track your connection they will not find anything, then again since most of the people who file these false DMCAs are religious fundies they probably dont have a sufficiently high IQ to do even that.
@T3hFatass Yeah, I'm sure it's religious fundies who are taking down all of the funniest Youtube Poops and the best fan music videos and dubs. Them fundies hate fun, right?
@T3hFatass umm...you do realize that even if someone were to use an internet cafe or public wireless access point, that every computer, when it connects to the modem, leaves a specific imprint that can be tracked. it is kinda like a fingerprint, just with a lot of numbers. but then again it takes a long time to figure out what one filed it, along with who bought it. and you are right, i think the average fundie IQ is 78...but it might be lower, they kill brain cells for fun. lol
@MobileThinker Yeah but if you know the guy at the cafe... you can clear the logs in the router.... would they really check a router?? who even knows how to access the admin page? lol
@TrutherD1 you are right that it is possible to remove modem and router logs, and at that point it would be very difficult to track them down. however if someone was really going to all the trouble such as checking router logs, then there is most likely a full investigation that would involve interrogating the employees and employer of the cafe. as unlikely as it is, i am sure it has happened at least once. also, from my experience, admin pages aren't difficult to access.
Even so they can still get your MAC address which cannot be changed like an IP address, and they can find the cafe and review the security videos to find out who you are, your car tags etc.
The individuals who would need to file any perjury charges would be YouTube. Not the the person the DMCA was filed against. When you file a DMCA you sign a good faith oath to YT that you are telling the truth. So it would be YT who would need to file those charges. The rest is a civil case. The person who was filed against needs to defend. A court would first have to determine it was indeed fair use.
To file a DMCA safely against these atheist go to a lawyer. It costs like 50 bucks. Call up for a consultation. Explain the issue. Get your lawyer to file the DMCA for you. When they counter claim they get the lawyers info. To claim fair use it must fall under all the outlines (4-6 depending on your country). If they claim fair use you can claim derivative. Better yet take all your videos and copyright under a collection and sent a cease and desist. Cheap
YouTubes implementation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act allows any youtuber to claim another has posted their copyrighted material in a video and simply making this claim will result in YouTube taking down the video in question and possibly suspending the user who posted it.
However, making such a claim when it's not true is ILLEGAL. (cont...)
Certain groups, whose creationist views I won't mention...again...much, have used false DMCA claims, false flags and votebotting campaigns to silence atheist and evolutionist videos whose views they disagree with.
no offense, but this is the goddamn internet. Information is being thrown at you all the time. If you want to find out something don't expect someone to make a video on the subject, but take 10 minutes of your own time and read the detailed article on wikipedia yourself.
have a nice day, and remember: curiosity and google are your friends :D
I did search for it but if someone is posting a vid informing people of something then I think they should, well, inform people what's got their knickers in a twist.
Having done a lot of legal translating in my time, I tend to be pedantic. Hence my asking the vid maker whether all these various phrases mean the same thing or not.
My curiosity is fairly legendary, thank you, but remember: Google is not the only search engine.
VenomfangX filed multiple false DMCA's against Thunderf00t, and Thunderf00t let him get away with it, despite the fact that he could have not only banished him from Youtube forever, but also filed court proceedings too
Thunderf00t chose not to to that and at the very least his decision led to the defrauding of sick kids hospital, and further arguments could be made whether Venomfangs continued inflammatory presence on Youtube fanned certain psychotic flames within a former youtuber.
If one isn't represented by council, in most civil matters, one hasn't a snow ball's chance in hell of prevailing judicially. Much less attempting to state damages: punitive?
Filing false DMCAs as personal atttacks will continue for many years to come: UNLESS Viacom institutes a verification program on its own.
They keep harping on about it because after making his "apology" VFX#1 took down the vid from his own channel (denial of his own imaturity) and then went on to con money out of his subscribers and fleecing a local charity.
And they keep harping on about it because Creationist morons now think vote-bots and DMCA claims are the best form of counter-argument, and many channels have been hit.
It's amazing that Venomfangx has already apologized made a video and pretty much has done everything thunderfoot has asked to make what was wrong .....now right yet people like jones continue to harp on it. Grow up
I mentioned on roseboosje's vid earlier that since if you file a counter claim you give your contact info to the person filing the DMCA, its only fair that if someone is to file a DMCA they should be obligated to give their contact info to the other party. I think this would stop most DMCA nazis from filing them. I see it as a open hole in the system that needs plugged. :)
This is true. But the party that runs that Gambian proxy server may still have ethics. They get a letter informing them that a client from America used their server to download child porn or some other unethical behavior. They are under no legal pressure whatsoever to do so but they balk at this misuse of their service and burn the cache to CD right away for the police to mull over. I'd do this.
You can use a proxy indeed. But proxies are run by third parties who can be forced to hand over session information by a third party. Sure, they can clear their cache regularly or even on every logout, but the party that runs a proxy server has an incentive to keep user information so that, if push comes to shove, they can hand it over and transfer the attention away from themselves.
Youtube don't specifically know that. They will have your IP address, however. Yes, it might take a court order for the information to be disclosed by them or an ISP, but ISPs are hardly under a great deal of pressure from their customers to secret information about computer crime, are they?
Thats right. Youtube's servers contain the IP addresses of all machines that connect to the site, including those used to log into accounts. even if you give false details, this cannot be hidden unless you use a proxy. A simple google search for an IP address will find the ISP and probably the locality of the server. It is then a simple matter to ask the ISP for your identity.
And using a proxy does not hide your IP either. The proxy will contain your IP address and the party that runs it may be asked for this. All it does is slow the process of obtaining it by adding another link in the chain. A dynamic IP address does not hide you either, because ISPs use specific ranges for specific servers and localities, inwhich you will be found, and very likely the ISP keeps records of what IP was assigned to which physical device (home broadband router) in certain time frames.
I have some ideas I'd like you guys to check out. Videos titled - Flagging Without Accountability = Epic Fail. I could really use your support. The vid's in my profile. Subscribe if you like what I have to say. Rate, Hate, Star, or Fave!
There is a nifty piece of free software out there, which I will not name, that alows users to create, or 'mask' their IP and MAC addresses. If someone wants to stay hidden on the internet, they can do so with very little effort. PS - For those of you who know, yes, it is a lynux based product.
There are at least 8 unsecured wireless networks right here in my little podunk town, that I know for sure I can access the internet from. One of them is our itty bitty little library's network. I can sit outside, in my car, any time day or night, and get on the net with my laptop. I do this whenever my cable goes out or my home network fucks up.
unsecured networks are plenty! but arent MAC addresses computer specific? the idents are almost always logged on stock wireless configs.pull something naughty especially in a small town where the local newspapers might just get wind of a local indiscretion trace through certain legal channels and all it takes is someone with eyes and a mouth and who could put two and two together. search warrant + NIC = was it worth it
It seems to me, that it would depend on the case, and the cost-benefit of investigating any supposed crime. I have never even been approached while accessing remotely. My library has signs inside advertising the fact that they have wireless access, and I have noticed people outside on their laptops many times. I just never paid any attention as to who they were, or what they were even driving. I think that this would probably be the same everywhere. Very very small risk.
tips and security cameras are as plentiful and cheap as they come :) i agree the chance of getting mitnicked is small. i guess. i just know with industry and legal pressures itching to make an internet example out of someone for monetary and security reasons, i wouldn wantt be the one to risk it for a cheesey fake dmca claim....but hey....roll the dice,as they say! :)
I personally think the DMCA is a piss poor law, and would never file a claim under it. False or not. I was just pointing out to the people who are telling others that they can and will be traced if they do, that it's really unlikely. Lets face it, it is only slightly more likely, than jezus, mary and joseph, bringing me a mint julep, a hot blonde, and a box of new porn.
Good question. Felony tax evasion gets you several years with a blonde homosexual named joseph I think. While misdemeanor perjury in a civil case, probably gets you a box of porn, an ROR. At least Clinton I'm pretty sure got the porn, and he damn sure didn't do any time for perjury. But hey, I'm sure that if they do actually find someone doing the DMCA thing, since they spent all that cash to get that person, they'll find all kinds of other things to charge him with. Gotta justify that expense.
Nice work DPR, let's hope this DMCA stupidity stops! If only youtube would create their own video stating that details WOULD be given for DMCA's. After all, if it's a valid DMCA surely there'd be no reason to hide the identity?
If I wanted to file a false DMCA I'd go to a publicly available computer in a shopping mall, put in my $1 make a youtube account & false DMCA with false info 3 times on an account. Account suspended. Person appeals DMCA, then I tell youtube I plan to sue the youtube account holder. It all ends there. Account dead & no electronic finger prints left.
Or you could just use a proxy - then YouTube knows NOTHING about you. Tada!
Task5003 6 months ago
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spunkets 6 months ago
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spunkets 6 months ago
WHAT THAT FUCK IS A DMCA ?
LikeAChinaman 6 months ago
160 people including myself received a notification from Google Legal that a lawyer representing YouTube user yahsladynred wants our private docs. The people on that subpoena have done nothing to warrant legal action against them. It is just a malicious abuse of the legal system to harrass people she doesn't like. She nor her lawyer has any legal right to our docs, and she has placed a comment on YouTube saying our full legal names would be published. The system is flawed!
savedbyjesusblood 7 months ago
WHAT IS CONSIDERED FALSE? a small company i never heard of till i googled them? and what did i know as the video was 50 years old 3 minute clip? (music video)
ClassicPerformances 10 months ago
Well I recently got a DMCA cause I was doing videos wondering what really happened to Jesse Woodrow, cause some people think the illuminati got him or something else happened to him.
All I did was use a picture which was an advertisement he was part of, and talked about how peculiar it was in a video, and I was slapped with a DMCA for showing it for a few seconds.
Would that be classified as a false DMCA?
LiquidSmooth 10 months ago
What is a DMCA?
Biggerbadwolf 1 year ago
@Biggerbadwolf Demon. Mellon. Cock. Attack.
wesleyfilms 1 year ago
I have seen the idea that if someone files a DMCA that is false, there is recourse you can take to get the file lifted. If it is that obvious that its some guy in a cafe that ran away after he did it giggling like a school girl, youtube will go "Oh so that was bogus." and the flag will be lifted. Pain in the ass but nothing can really come of it of you are falsely accused. Still its annoying and there should be a better way of controlling such actions.
JackJivewriter 1 year ago
I'd like to agree with T3hFatass about his idea of how anyone can avoid the DMCA banning their channel, but however this does bring up that if this same person who does this; may not be able to make a video on their channel, not a single one. If a person is going to be able to file a DMCA then they should be subject to one also to keep everything fair. Youtube can get around the false DMCA's at cyber cafes by only allowing people with at least one video able to file them.
crazyinsane500 1 year ago
Conjopi was good at this.
Atraiterm 1 year ago
lol. Just go to starbucks make your account there. So now when youtube gives person A your IP Adress, you just get the IP adress from Starbuck's ISP. Easy as that.
NESfanboi 1 year ago
So many people file DMCA's now, and no one can or will ever stop them. This thing may be retarded, but I can think of at least several hundred videos that I would love to see false DMCA claims filed against for the good of the internet...
george77772moons 1 year ago
My question is: there have been so many obvious cases of flase DMCAs, yet I have NEVER heard of anyone facing real consequences, why is this? PCS got off with a disengenuous "apology", WTF? Whether or not Thundef00t accepted his apology, he KNOWINGLY comitted FRAUD, this is a crime, is it not? Does anyone know of any false DMCAer who has ever faced serious consequences?
wendighoul 1 year ago
So you go to a Burger King and make an account then do it. Now how do they find you? YouTube / Google cookies FTL? :P
TrutherD1 1 year ago
Imagine
E - youtube doesn't care
StanAlekseev 1 year ago
whats DMCA stand for?
anntheazelf101 1 year ago
maybe the one or group of ppl doing this to LPers should see this.
128Gamer 1 year ago
Some people i love on youtube have besan effected by this i. e. MexicanSunflower. CommanderGwonam and MSTRadock to name a few. And all of it is being done by this troll named CTFCGames. He thinks he's cool. I'll be laughing when he gets thrown into jail.
NESfanboi 1 year ago
michael geist from McGill University > teens have lost respect for copyright, he lays much of the blame at the feet of the recording industry for their failure to adapt to the online marketplace in the mid-1990s.
Personally i could care less really all these laws that maintain super sized corporations at the serfs and peons expense is rather amusing.. im only here for 100 years at most.. sit back and laugh at these control freaks.. lol
HierPower 1 year ago
The song is awesome and the info is sound.
ltdom 1 year ago
Did that say 512 simoleons?
chibivampiregirl 1 year ago 2
You, get a grates on this video, cause this is the truth, I find it funny how hateful people try to do things like this
cloakknight 1 year ago
My videos were taken down through False DMCA claims.. =(
jokerstewie 1 year ago
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
*bitch!* xD
mickeypopa 1 year ago
The Fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction(Proverbs 1:7). FEAR GOD AND REPENT(Proverbs 3:7)! Fear GOD WHO HATH POWER TO CAST YOU INTO HELL(Luke 12:5)! Repent or perish(Luke 13:5)! The FOOL hath said in his heart there is no God(Psalm 14:1)! As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn form his way and live(Ezekiel 33:10). TURN FROM YOUR SINS AND SUBMIT 2 JESUS CHRIST NOW OR BURN IN HELL!
over9000christian 1 year ago
Repent Amarillo just nailed 2 of my vids on DMCA, they got 3 vids taken down on the AtheistAtLARGE account, the same 2 that were DMCAd on the DEBATE FAITH account were cited for dropping docs and were removed, the 3rd was taken down for TOS violation
DebateFaith 1 year ago
@DebateFaith
The video that was taken down for TOS violation is still up on this channel, not sure for how long, if anyone wants to mirror it, please do, more vids coming soon
DebateFaith 1 year ago
wouldent it be funny if some one filed a claim on this shitty vid.
i dont see any credit given to the studio who made a few good men and i see no credit given for the song used in this video.
your in violation of the law dprjones fix it or im going to flag it
darksepheroth 1 year ago
wow you sound really arrogant about this thing.
are you mad because some one filed a claim on one of your vids didint they
darksepheroth 1 year ago
Yes he is.
He is unwittingly giving lawyers the bullets they need to put an end to free expression. I hope he is proud of himself.
LastCynicStanding 1 year ago
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Fucking LOVE this song!
PsycoDirector 1 year ago
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"Lets combat shitty laws with MOAR SHITTY LAWS!!!"
I know thats the only rationale they have in England, but I'd expect more from Americans. How about getting the fuck rid of copyright bullshit on the internet? I don't see the aclu protecting me from getting banned. So consider the internet an anarchist blackhole. Like the rain forest on crack.
JimProfitAndSamantha 1 year ago
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"Lets combat shitty laws with MOAR SHITTY LAWS!!!"
I know thats the only rationale they have in England, but I'd expect more from Americans. How about getting the fuck rid of copyright bullshit on the internet? I don't see the aclu protecting me from getting banned. So consider the internet an anarchist blackhole. Like the rain forest on crack.
JimProfitCat 1 year ago
"Lets combat shitty laws with MOAR SHITTY LAWS!!!"
I know thats the only rationale they have in England, but I'd expect more from Americans. How about getting the fuck rid of copyright bullshit on the internet? I don't see the aclu protecting me from getting banned. So consider the internet an anarchist blackhole. Like the rain forest on crack.
JimProfitCat 1 year ago
@SeeingUFOzPA If enough people are interested in it, it can be a serious case, it sets a precedent. That's how law works. If enough groups are interested in such a case, it can easily be taken to the supreme court, not because the plaintiff's complaint itself. Once they decide whether filing false DMCA is wrong under specific circumstances, future law cases will use that decision in their arguments.
CrabTastingMan 1 year ago
[n00b] WTF is a DMCA claim? [/n00b]
Ophiguris 1 year ago
It's the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. It's mostly about copyright infringement and rules on how copyrighted material is to be handled.
laflugantabastardo 1 year ago
@laflugantabastardo
so, if you file one, is it because you've
found some one else posting material
or what?
Ophiguris 1 year ago
As far as I know, only the owner or a representative of the owner can do such a thing.
Basically, if you compose and play a song and sell it online; it's your right to do that, since you're the owner. It's copyrighted to you.
However, if I then buy the song and put it on my server and make it freely available to everyone without your permission, you may file a DMCA against me, as I'm robbing you of your income from sales of your song.
laflugantabastardo 1 year ago
Remember kids, if you're going to false DMCA, get your asses behind 7 proxies.
MSK120 1 year ago
or use a burn tower..... and a cafe. and[then seven proxies...
Arimmus 1 year ago
This possible precedent will be far better used to punish the false DMCA claims made by the RIAA and the MPAA,
MarcusCardiff 1 year ago
@MarcusCardiff I loled.
theclinger 1 year ago
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MarcusCardiff 1 year ago
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..Just what the world needs...another hippie lawyer. lol
vachief 1 year ago
Read it again!
22046792 2 years ago
@SeeingUFOzPA
You are aware, that most people know that a lot of the comments posted on your channel by "different people", are posted by you. Are you really that insecure? What are you doing? How many accounts do you have? Trying to make yourself look popular with this sort of behaviour! Well its sad. Quit while youre ahead and try to retain some dignity!
And always remember those false claims and those dice.
22046792 2 years ago
@SeeingUFOzPA
My Weirdness???????? HA!
Remember! You're gonna have to stop rolling those dice.
22046792 2 years ago
@SeeingUFOzPA
Firstly Alison's crew? I'm not sure what that means. When I said banned, I meant banned from your channel. I seem to remember you moaning about Alison banning people. Yet you do the same thing. As far as UFO's go, I really couldn't care less about them. I just like to watch other peoples videos. Are they real? I don't know. For me, Alison's videos are Interesting. My issue with you is your bullying.
Youre a coward! You haven't even got the balls, to have a look for yourself!
22046792 2 years ago
@SeeingUFOzPA
I see you have been giving out about Alison blocking people from her channel! That's probably because of the abuse she has been getting from you and your sort.
But tell me this, why have I been blocked from your channel? Is because I won a debate with you without once being abusive, and your only agrument was to call me a retard! You then went on to remove my comments in said debate. Was this to save you embarrassment?
I
22046792 2 years ago
@SeeingUFOzPA
What are you worried about? You sound worried!
You should be........ I think you might have rolled the dice, a couple of times more than you should have!
Looking forward to this :-)
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felixmab66 2 years ago
VFX: "kill, enslave, it doesn't make sense"
Are you talking about the bible? ;b
watch my new vid!
juntaon 2 years ago
i have 3 of those false dmca filed against me on my other channel which got suspended the odd thing is that i never upload vid on that channel wtf youtube is full of weird stuff
ThayCaLLMeSUPERMAN 2 years ago
Keep fighting the good fight PiroNiro. Cheers.
afterhumanity333 2 years ago
Great tune.
oravavaara 2 years ago
ha ha i luv the song with the vid! XD
ThroughTheDarkness13 2 years ago
Has anything ever happened legal wise to these turds they try to censor others with false DMCAs? Did VenomFang get in legal trouble over his assholery?
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MNBrant 2 years ago
Thank you very much for this information! Five Stars, Favourited.
mrtrivates 2 years ago
i filed a counter DMCA against WWE because my video mash up of the rock got taken down 2 years ago and my account was 1 letter. did i just file a false DMCA, because a couple of places say video mash ups (short clips mashed together) are under fair use.
upload 2 years ago
lol i think its funny when a smug bastard that serves false dmcas gets either heavily fined or jailed because he couldnt just keep his fingers away from the flag button
bighairybiker45 2 years ago 3
Tell me who lord and i'lll slag themn off without
MarcusCardiff 2 years ago
I can tell you 20 different ways to anonymously "serf" the web and for that matter watch the cops knock on the door of the across the street.Moreover now a days it is pretty strait forward and theirs programs to do it. google backtrack to get in to the more in depth parts of IT security
Yet needless to say i think digital millennium copyright act is a fucking joke as is the "patriot" act. These are government tools that give the false pretense of security but really hamper freedom inch by inch
CiphersSon 2 years ago
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Find a unsecured wifi or barrow a church puter and boot from usb...or you could 0 fuck it :-) LAWZ!
CiphersSon 2 years ago
I recommend to not be found out, you should go to a public library, (where you can just get on a computer without logging in or anything), sign up for an email, sign up for youtube, file the DMCA with false information, and you'll never get caught.
riseofatheism 2 years ago
I must tell you that the ACLU is effectively useless. We have no substance of democracy only the window dressing. It would be a waste of time.
canaan1967 2 years ago
Great tunes
KittyKatSpanker 2 years ago
What if I use the "standard" method:
Go to an internet cafe (with no cameras).
Connect to a proxy server.
Create a new Youtube account.
Fill in false credentials.
File a DMCA.
Can I be tracked =)
Sorry I'm against this shit but this kind of precaution is kind of basic.
8DX 2 years ago
yes, you are right, anyways it's difficult to find someone using IP, they won't be caught easy, Youtube really sucks with the copyright stuff
inucharm 2 years ago
I still dont get how anyone can find out who filed the DMCA...anyone know? ~Raven
RadicalComedy 2 years ago
thnks for that.
fancynot 2 years ago
Not even close. It's Thunderf00t. You should check their channel out, he's a great guy.
Misterunnamed 2 years ago
But how do I get youtube to respond to the false report on my vid?
wolfofthewhitemt 2 years ago
If UTube did not take every DMCA claim at face vale, and looked to see if the accusers accusations were valid beforehand we would not have this problem!
RebellionInHell 2 years ago 39
YouTube is legally required to do exactly what it does. Annoying for everyone, but true.
stealthbadger 2 years ago
Well anyone with half a brain can easily avoid any detection by creating a fake account and filing the DMCA from a internet cafe or any public wireless access point, so even if someone bothers to track your connection they will not find anything, then again since most of the people who file these false DMCAs are religious fundies they probably dont have a sufficiently high IQ to do even that.
T3hFatass 2 years ago 50
@T3hFatass
Most likely they created their account with their real IP.
zombieiscool 1 year ago
@T3hFatass Yeah, I'm sure it's religious fundies who are taking down all of the funniest Youtube Poops and the best fan music videos and dubs. Them fundies hate fun, right?
Timstuff 1 year ago
@T3hFatass umm...you do realize that even if someone were to use an internet cafe or public wireless access point, that every computer, when it connects to the modem, leaves a specific imprint that can be tracked. it is kinda like a fingerprint, just with a lot of numbers. but then again it takes a long time to figure out what one filed it, along with who bought it. and you are right, i think the average fundie IQ is 78...but it might be lower, they kill brain cells for fun. lol
MobileThinker 1 year ago
@MobileThinker Yeah but if you know the guy at the cafe... you can clear the logs in the router.... would they really check a router?? who even knows how to access the admin page? lol
TrutherD1 1 year ago
@TrutherD1 you are right that it is possible to remove modem and router logs, and at that point it would be very difficult to track them down. however if someone was really going to all the trouble such as checking router logs, then there is most likely a full investigation that would involve interrogating the employees and employer of the cafe. as unlikely as it is, i am sure it has happened at least once. also, from my experience, admin pages aren't difficult to access.
MobileThinker 1 year ago
@T3hFatass And then, they find the cafe you used and ask who was online at the time it was reported. :P
bakuraluvr44 1 year ago
@T3hFatass Don't forget freaken Best Buy
Thedeadmatrix 1 year ago
@T3hFatass
Even so they can still get your MAC address which cannot be changed like an IP address, and they can find the cafe and review the security videos to find out who you are, your car tags etc.
SexyArcanine666 7 months ago
Idk why but alot of trollers have been false DMCAd. Kinda pathetic that people would stoop down to a low level to win an arguement.
LtFang299 2 years ago
God will punish you if you file a false DMCA. Oh, wait, no, the LAW will punish you - which belief is more delusional?
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felixmab66 2 years ago
X-L-NT!!! So glad to see this. Love your videos, dude, but the sound could stand to be tweeked up a bit.
Happy Summer!
ChurchOfSatanProt 2 years ago
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bobby21349 2 years ago
Do you have a mirror link for this?
KeepFreeSpeechFree 2 years ago
:) it makes me happy when prics like venomfang get PWNed up the ass and publicly humiliated.
1337akahunter 2 years ago
Take THAT to an America lawyer DPRjones and they'll tell you the same thing I just did.
purpleorchid76 2 years ago
The individuals who would need to file any perjury charges would be YouTube. Not the the person the DMCA was filed against. When you file a DMCA you sign a good faith oath to YT that you are telling the truth. So it would be YT who would need to file those charges. The rest is a civil case. The person who was filed against needs to defend. A court would first have to determine it was indeed fair use.
purpleorchid76 2 years ago
To file a DMCA safely against these atheist go to a lawyer. It costs like 50 bucks. Call up for a consultation. Explain the issue. Get your lawyer to file the DMCA for you. When they counter claim they get the lawyers info. To claim fair use it must fall under all the outlines (4-6 depending on your country). If they claim fair use you can claim derivative. Better yet take all your videos and copyright under a collection and sent a cease and desist. Cheap
purpleorchid76 2 years ago
i wonder if mgm grand wouldn't mind getting a letter about how you stole video from a movie they produced ..... hmmmm
you see it cuts both ways ..... and you DON'T SCARE ANYONE.... YOU'RE A PETTY PETTY MAN
notNEWW 2 years ago
Maybe you should read the "fair use" clause in the DMCA. A refresher on YouTube rules wouldn't hurt you either.
One other thing, are you a Young Earth Creationist or did you go to college?
wdgeo 2 years ago
dprjones is a regular Ombudsman! Keep up the good fight dprjones! :D
pmokadakeisuke 2 years ago
I guess I'm not cool enough. What is a False DMCA claim?
christopherspb 2 years ago
YouTubes implementation of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act allows any youtuber to claim another has posted their copyrighted material in a video and simply making this claim will result in YouTube taking down the video in question and possibly suspending the user who posted it.
However, making such a claim when it's not true is ILLEGAL. (cont...)
wdgeo 2 years ago
(cont...)
Certain groups, whose creationist views I won't mention...again...much, have used false DMCA claims, false flags and votebotting campaigns to silence atheist and evolutionist videos whose views they disagree with.
Praise the Lord from whom all deceptions flow!
wdgeo 2 years ago
well, as jesus was wont to say
blessed are the doctor murderers
and computer fraud perpetrators
for they are truly the chosen people
christopherspb 2 years ago
Mirrored =)
bootergonemad 2 years ago
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Sparkanoid1 2 years ago
The Clash? What is the title of the tune
Sparkanoid1 2 years ago
I fought the law
will070361 2 years ago
A little off subject, but I love The Clash.
atheistzombie 2 years ago 2
Lets get these spastics out of their mothers basements.
Sparkanoid1 2 years ago
By all means, you spaztic trolls. If you're going to impersonate copyright claims, you better not do it in the comfort of your parents' basement.
shadowcnidarian 2 years ago
There are ways not to get found /caught.
Though these days it gets harder though.
The most important thing of not getting found/caught is too always and i mean always think a few steps ahead of the ones that wanna find you.
kvj1989 2 years ago
What is the difference between a hedgehog and a pair of lawyers in a car? The hedgehog has the pricks on the outside.
Sparkanoid1 2 years ago
So, at the end of the day, dprjones is a fucking lawyer
Sparkanoid1 2 years ago
the most likable lawyer I know, that is...
Deadlef 2 years ago
what is the name of the tune?
Sparkanoid1 2 years ago
I was simplifying it slightly. It is called using an anonymous proxy and or proxy chain.
why would you be happy running through like 10 proxies to watch youtube videos. It would seriously slowdown your videos.
java501 2 years ago
★★★★★
Katalyzt 2 years ago
Couldn't they just use a proxy?
rmrmr 2 years ago
dprjones, this vid looked interesting, I like to learn new things but I watched it and I STILL don't know: WHAT is "a DMCA" ???
I searched the description - nothing! I watched the whole vid - nothing!
You mention:
- serving a (false) DMCA;
- filing a DMCA, and
- making a DMCA *claim*.
Are these different or do all these descriptions mean the same thing?
This is not sarcasm. You should say, in the vid AND/OR the description, just what the hell you are on about here!!!
queenastilon 2 years ago
oooor you should type "DMCA" in google?
no offense, but this is the goddamn internet. Information is being thrown at you all the time. If you want to find out something don't expect someone to make a video on the subject, but take 10 minutes of your own time and read the detailed article on wikipedia yourself.
have a nice day, and remember: curiosity and google are your friends :D
s23b 2 years ago 5
I did search for it but if someone is posting a vid informing people of something then I think they should, well, inform people what's got their knickers in a twist.
Having done a lot of legal translating in my time, I tend to be pedantic. Hence my asking the vid maker whether all these various phrases mean the same thing or not.
My curiosity is fairly legendary, thank you, but remember: Google is not the only search engine.
queenastilon 2 years ago
Teach me the ways of the internet!
PhrexianReturns 2 years ago
lol
queenastilon 2 years ago
I'm serious. :(
PhrexianReturns 2 years ago
Digital Milennium Copyright Act.
and yah, what s23b said.
ZejithThemis 2 years ago
Thank you for telling me that. I did know that but I was making a point.
Further: see my answer to s23b above.
queenastilon 2 years ago
There are ways to maintain one's anonymity online; there just are.
hewpiedawg 2 years ago
Yes, but they don't work well with streaming video, and a small minority of internet users could figure out how to do it.
sporkfighter 2 years ago
VenomfangX filed multiple false DMCA's against Thunderf00t, and Thunderf00t let him get away with it, despite the fact that he could have not only banished him from Youtube forever, but also filed court proceedings too
Thunderf00t chose not to to that and at the very least his decision led to the defrauding of sick kids hospital, and further arguments could be made whether Venomfangs continued inflammatory presence on Youtube fanned certain psychotic flames within a former youtuber.
Sparkanoid1 2 years ago
If one isn't represented by council, in most civil matters, one hasn't a snow ball's chance in hell of prevailing judicially. Much less attempting to state damages: punitive?
Filing false DMCAs as personal atttacks will continue for many years to come: UNLESS Viacom institutes a verification program on its own.
PTSWSOASN 2 years ago
They keep harping on about it because after making his "apology" VFX#1 took down the vid from his own channel (denial of his own imaturity) and then went on to con money out of his subscribers and fleecing a local charity.
And they keep harping on about it because Creationist morons now think vote-bots and DMCA claims are the best form of counter-argument, and many channels have been hit.
bshieldsbb01 2 years ago
It's amazing that Venomfangx has already apologized made a video and pretty much has done everything thunderfoot has asked to make what was wrong .....now right yet people like jones continue to harp on it. Grow up
eufjoel 2 years ago
Whoa, I was just listening to this song. Great choice.
Blablahead1234 2 years ago
Hell Yea! The Clash is the shit!
hanzo138 2 years ago
Indeed. Proxies FTW.
NichtDieseTone 2 years ago
MAC
bdf2718 2 years ago
Thank you for all the hard work you are doing. This is wonderful.
jebus6kryst 2 years ago
i'll file one anyways :)
Jtking3000 2 years ago
i dislike it when videos get mirrored, i hate my subcription box being filled with the same video 4 times
forsbrookme 2 years ago
I wasn't thinking... but now I'm tempted. Damn, you should never tell me I can't or shouldn't do something... Thanks a lot.
TETSUno1 2 years ago
5star. :)
I mentioned on roseboosje's vid earlier that since if you file a counter claim you give your contact info to the person filing the DMCA, its only fair that if someone is to file a DMCA they should be obligated to give their contact info to the other party. I think this would stop most DMCA nazis from filing them. I see it as a open hole in the system that needs plugged. :)
wolfeedarkfang 2 years ago
This is true. But the party that runs that Gambian proxy server may still have ethics. They get a letter informing them that a client from America used their server to download child porn or some other unethical behavior. They are under no legal pressure whatsoever to do so but they balk at this misuse of their service and burn the cache to CD right away for the police to mull over. I'd do this.
ChrisJMoor 2 years ago
You can use a proxy indeed. But proxies are run by third parties who can be forced to hand over session information by a third party. Sure, they can clear their cache regularly or even on every logout, but the party that runs a proxy server has an incentive to keep user information so that, if push comes to shove, they can hand it over and transfer the attention away from themselves.
ChrisJMoor 2 years ago
You sir, are a force of nature.
Rock on, remember your actions inspire others to hang on to their ideals as well, so, thanks.
jlitchford 2 years ago
How will youtube know who and where you are?
They know your IP address but then you should get another court order to get the ISP to tell you witch person is behind that IP address
hypothetisch 2 years ago
Youtube don't specifically know that. They will have your IP address, however. Yes, it might take a court order for the information to be disclosed by them or an ISP, but ISPs are hardly under a great deal of pressure from their customers to secret information about computer crime, are they?
ChrisJMoor 2 years ago
Thats right. Youtube's servers contain the IP addresses of all machines that connect to the site, including those used to log into accounts. even if you give false details, this cannot be hidden unless you use a proxy. A simple google search for an IP address will find the ISP and probably the locality of the server. It is then a simple matter to ask the ISP for your identity.
ChrisJMoor 2 years ago
And using a proxy does not hide your IP either. The proxy will contain your IP address and the party that runs it may be asked for this. All it does is slow the process of obtaining it by adding another link in the chain. A dynamic IP address does not hide you either, because ISPs use specific ranges for specific servers and localities, inwhich you will be found, and very likely the ISP keeps records of what IP was assigned to which physical device (home broadband router) in certain time frames.
ChrisJMoor 2 years ago
ISPs will not honor your request without a court order at least not in most European countries
hypothetisch 2 years ago
Never thought you would have to explain to somebody that lying on a legal document is a crime...o.O
Some people aren't smart. Kudos.
JasonTandro 2 years ago
you like like Sylar from Heroes. are you related? XD
pwiattitto 2 years ago
This is Joe Strummer and I will be filing a DMCA claim for your uncredited use of my song.
TurkeyProphet 2 years ago
It's not your song. It was written by Sonny Curtis. It is your performance, Mr Strummer.
FALSE DMCA!
revjimbob 2 years ago
Just one thing I have to ask... I notice you use lots of different songs in your videos, so, are the usage of such songs within legal boundaries?
Rocky183 2 years ago 2
I have a feeling they won't learn or take your warning to heart.
Oh well! Do they serve popcorn at those purgery trials?
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JamesSurvivalGuide 2 years ago
There is a nifty piece of free software out there, which I will not name, that alows users to create, or 'mask' their IP and MAC addresses. If someone wants to stay hidden on the internet, they can do so with very little effort. PS - For those of you who know, yes, it is a lynux based product.
JMBRAD1074 2 years ago
You're talking about a proxy. They work on all platforms.
simonx4 2 years ago
You mean TOR?
Why will you not name it?
hypothetisch 2 years ago
Glad to hear this is working out for you. Hope this makes Youtube take DMCAs more seriously.
effinmantobe 2 years ago
Among those reasons let me add the obvious moral reasons, of course!
TheDorkOfEarl 2 years ago
Sorry my information was not helpful. Glad you found some better resources!
JRChadwick 2 years ago
another excellent piece of work Mr. Jones, keep it up!
AbdultheImpailler 2 years ago
There are at least 8 unsecured wireless networks right here in my little podunk town, that I know for sure I can access the internet from. One of them is our itty bitty little library's network. I can sit outside, in my car, any time day or night, and get on the net with my laptop. I do this whenever my cable goes out or my home network fucks up.
xxxchaindrive 2 years ago
unsecured networks are plenty! but arent MAC addresses computer specific? the idents are almost always logged on stock wireless configs.pull something naughty especially in a small town where the local newspapers might just get wind of a local indiscretion trace through certain legal channels and all it takes is someone with eyes and a mouth and who could put two and two together. search warrant + NIC = was it worth it
TheDorkOfEarl 2 years ago
It seems to me, that it would depend on the case, and the cost-benefit of investigating any supposed crime. I have never even been approached while accessing remotely. My library has signs inside advertising the fact that they have wireless access, and I have noticed people outside on their laptops many times. I just never paid any attention as to who they were, or what they were even driving. I think that this would probably be the same everywhere. Very very small risk.
xxxchaindrive 2 years ago
tips and security cameras are as plentiful and cheap as they come :) i agree the chance of getting mitnicked is small. i guess. i just know with industry and legal pressures itching to make an internet example out of someone for monetary and security reasons, i wouldn wantt be the one to risk it for a cheesey fake dmca claim....but hey....roll the dice,as they say! :)
TheDorkOfEarl 2 years ago
I personally think the DMCA is a piss poor law, and would never file a claim under it. False or not. I was just pointing out to the people who are telling others that they can and will be traced if they do, that it's really unlikely. Lets face it, it is only slightly more likely, than jezus, mary and joseph, bringing me a mint julep, a hot blonde, and a box of new porn.
xxxchaindrive 2 years ago
lol yea.. i wonder which hovind ended up with! :)
TheDorkOfEarl 2 years ago
Good question. Felony tax evasion gets you several years with a blonde homosexual named joseph I think. While misdemeanor perjury in a civil case, probably gets you a box of porn, an ROR. At least Clinton I'm pretty sure got the porn, and he damn sure didn't do any time for perjury. But hey, I'm sure that if they do actually find someone doing the DMCA thing, since they spent all that cash to get that person, they'll find all kinds of other things to charge him with. Gotta justify that expense.
xxxchaindrive 2 years ago
Since this has a USMC feel to it, I'd like to introduce PCS to Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann.
katey1dog 2 years ago
What a tune!
CrosshairJack 2 years ago
DPRJones you're awesome. Another excelent video. Stick it to these false DMCA jerks!
tomoeinfinity 2 years ago 2
See if Brett Keane is the one who's pulling this bullshit.
If not, we should find out who did.
generaleskimo 2 years ago
Nice work DPR, let's hope this DMCA stupidity stops! If only youtube would create their own video stating that details WOULD be given for DMCA's. After all, if it's a valid DMCA surely there'd be no reason to hide the identity?
cmeast 2 years ago
bit ridiculous the scare tactics in this video.
If I wanted to file a false DMCA I'd go to a publicly available computer in a shopping mall, put in my $1 make a youtube account & false DMCA with false info 3 times on an account. Account suspended. Person appeals DMCA, then I tell youtube I plan to sue the youtube account holder. It all ends there. Account dead & no electronic finger prints left.
This shows the flaw in DMCA.
eveningniteshade 2 years ago