Giving a somone psychological drugs may seem the easiest option in the short run if they are causing problems, but you have to prepare yourself for that family member never getting a job and becoming a hobo.
NOT JUST SCIENTOLOGY , MANY DIFFERENT ORGANISATIONS ARE AGAINST PSYCHIATRY,INCLUDING MANY MEDICAL PERSONNELS . PSYCHIATRY IS NOT JUST A SCAM, IT'S DANGEROUS TO MIND AND BODY .
Hmm....sounds like the plan of repubs to destroy help for the mentally ill. Psychiatry is a tool like any other can be used for good or bad. It just doesn't exist to those who are not human or have any human feelings as their conscience is suppressed or dead. And it has always been known that mental illness is induced by demons who possess people. Jesus healed and cleansed some of those mentally ill. And they became normal and lived. You rarely see any being exorcised today, do u?
@Licmycat Religion is not provable anyway, so don't use it as evidence. Psychiatry contains very little neurological evidence to support all their claims. They tell us that people have all these disorders, when the "disorders" are really just differences in human nature and personality. No one can make generalizations about something as diverse as human nature.
@person8110 Neither are you provable either. Why are you hiding behind a blank pix? You could get away with murder if there is no witness, so what? You may be a killer. You can't stand the thought of admitting ur crime and sin since ur against religion. Most people that are crazy deny that they are. And I know because I've worked with many as a care-taker. So you are crazy if you aren't the killer. I don't see you chiding anyone who calls me crazy. Who are you?
@tien714 The For Freedom Forums for robust political debate, inspired by Scots, open to all. There is a link under this video to FIGH.TK which you can click to investigate the forums.
The benefit of this type of discussion forum over YouTube comments is that it is easier to structure debates around topics wherein many authors can quote many videos and other sources.
Such forum allow us to organise politically independently where YouTube's commerical interests do not call the shots.
@tien714 For example with regard to this video, if the drug companies who manufacture psychiatric drugs hate this video and others like it, they might complain to YouTube and get such videos taken down.
Unless we who question psychiatry are organised independently we are vulnerable to being disorganised by YouTube pulling the plug for whatever reason.
This applies too for many other political issue where enemies may seek to deny our freedom to organise against their narrow interests.
Psychology is still in a preparadigmatic stage...it's a new study relative to other sciences. We once thought the earth was flat, now we can prove it's not. They used to think Galileo was crazy. Currently psychology is still in it's growing stage and we will someday be able to better explain mental process and increase the validity of psychiatric diagnosis.
@7ty714 Does your =I symbol mean "not equivalent"? Because I know they aren't equivalent, but they share one extremely important thing...that's psychology. You can't tell me that they are two totally different professions. They have both stemmed from the same philosophers. Either way, the study in question in this video was David Rosenhan's. An American Psychologist who was questioning the validity of psychiatric diagnosis. Psychology is the basis of psychiatry don't tell me you deny that?
Thorazine "was instrumental in the development of neuropsychopharmacology, a new discipline dedicated to the study of mental pathology with the employment of centrally acting drugs." "Neuro-psychopharmacology,” the scientific discipline dedicated to the study and treatment of the pathophysiology of mental syndromes with the employment of centrally acting drugs." Thomas Ban, M.D.
Is this the perfect storm of corruption? Official ACNP Journal Neuropsychopharmacology by Vera Sharav July 2006.
Donald Klein, MD Diagnosis and Drug Treatment of Psychiatric Disorders.
"Psychopharmacological treatment responce was used as a nosolgical tool, an approach that has been reffered to as psychopharmacological dissection."
Google: autism risperidone drooling NEJM. Peer reviewed Journal pubilished Scientific test! A Neurotoxin is Recommended for Children with brain impairment!
See - Creation of the Modern Medical (Drug) Establishment
by G. Edward Griffin; Medical Control, Medical Corruption by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. and, What's in a name? Terming non-standard medical treatment - Townsend's New York Observer by Marcus A. Cohen, Townsend Letter Magazine April 2004
Psychiatrist diagnosis is exclusively "Psychological," these are Psychiatric Diagnoses... Treatment is Medical... "Medicines" (zenobiotic, PATENTED, drugging chemical agents), ECT and Psychosurgery.
Psychiatric would-be diagnosis is Psychological in nature - done with Clinical Interview, the Professional Opinion of the Clinician, Behavioral Reports and Psychological Word Tests such as the MMPI, , 500 yes or no questions with no space to explain why one choice yes or no. (Who cares.)
They label people based on their Objectivity and the Objectivity of their Leaders. They can pretend their "naming system" and "tests" are authoritative because our Medical Schools were taken over by super rich
The diagnostic exams do not exist. The Con Game of Psychiatry uses no medical tests. First they sauy that the problem is psychological - therefore they use the DSM labeling checklist for "psychiatric diagnosis." The taxonomy and nosology of psychiatry - the Con involves pretence to being Neutonian Scientific -Objective rational professional modern academic.
They use the words taxonomy & nosology in a pretence that they were qualified to create a (Linnaen) Taxonomy of "psychological" traits.
@britishflagbearer ..I admit that bad practice can and has happened, the same with any specialty, but you are clearly overestimating the magnitude of such problems and you are suggesting dropping a form of treatment that has been demonstrated to help thousands upon thousands of vulnerable people because of a few examples where psychiatrists, for whatever reason, have got it wrong!! If we did this for every specialty western medicine would come to a very sudden end!!!!
@drpiddleton It is you who has got it wrong by accepting that psychiatrists with the courts should be empowered to impose their actions upon the unwilling.
Psychiatric practice has no more to do with civilised western medicine than has Ugandan witch doctors sacrificing children to bring luck to a commercial venture, as exposed recently on the BBC. It is to do with western abuse of power.
The Ugandan witch doctors abuse & violate children and you do the same and to adults. You are worse.
@britishflagbearer. If you knew anything about psychiatry you would know that the British system is so underfunded that it makes huge efforts to keep patients out of the wards in order to reserve places for the acutely unwell. Are you really a scientist because you have not done a particularly poor job in convincing me with objective evidence that what you say is true?? All I get is absurd claims that makes me wonder if you are somebody who is stuck in the 70s to cone out with this rubbish.
@drpiddleton If you knew anything about politics you would know that cost is no object for the powerful - judges, health service managers when it comes to pleasing their political masters and keeping their jobs.
If the wigs and the shrinks get the nod from the politicians to eliminate a political critic then the money will be found for the necessary injections, ECT or lobotomy to save future political blushes.
Do you think the Nazi holocaust was a cost free exercise? This evil is pre-70s.
@britishflagbearer ....except some experiment that was done years ago but nobody is claiming that psychiatry doesn't have a checkered history, what I am trying to get through to you is that on the whole psychiatry has cleaned up its act and is now governed by strict regulations to prevent such things from happening. Eg regular tribunals
@britishflagbearer ....being evil, far from it, they providing a valuable service to society so why single out psychiatry for attack in this manner. I will tell you why? Ignorance. You claim to say these drugs cause brain damage but you have failed to make a single attempt to back this up with objective evidence. You also claim that psychiatrist are wrongly branding well individuals with incorrect diagnosis. This is a serious claim but again you have not provided a shred evidence to prove this
@britishflagbearer This is an altogether different issue. I'm defending psychiatry, not individual practitioners - for a psychiatrist to do what you are claiming is bad practice but you can find examples of bad practice in all medical or surgical specialties, which is unfortunate but it doesn't bring the old field into disrepute. I can think of plastic surgeons who performed unnecessary operations on vulnerable individuals (eg michael Jackson) but you wouldn't label all plastic surgeons as bei
@drpiddleton You are an evil person defending the evil power of especially "forensic" psychiatry (acting for the courts) which can be abused against well people. The evil duo of shrinks and wigs refuse to guaranteed the inviolability of the person against unwanted psychiatric measures.
The alternative legal regime achieved by reform or revolution would ban the profession of psychiatry, as abortion is banned in some countries, requiring those who really wanted this abuse to go abroad for it.
Look on YouTube for schizophrenia Heather. We don't see these kind of cases these days because of the improvements made to anti psychotics. So if you are against drugs what would be your solution to help somebody like her? Talk her out of it? Do nothing?
@drpiddleton The issue is not what medical science can't do now to fix badly brain-damaged individuals you point to, the issue is anti-science quackery must be prevented from doing brain damage to perfectly well people against their will.
No sick person gives anyone the right to damage healthy others who are fine right up until the point that your psychiatric friends start injecting them with drugs or zapping them with electricity against their will.
You call yourself s scientist and that is the best proof that you can provide? I don't take these drugs because I am not depressed or psychotic but if I was having hallucinations or scary delusions then i wouldn't object to taking anti psychotics. I can you that I know of mental health nurses and even one psychiatrist who took anti depressants.
@drpiddleton Yes but if a psychiatrist said "diagnosed" you as "depressed" or "psychotic", right now, as you are, not depressed, not psychotic, but a psychiatrist said,
"No you ARE depressed / psychotic Dr Piddleton, I, the psychiatrist know best, and your own view is overruled. I say you are to be forced to take these "anti-depressants/anti-psychotics"
and then the psychiatric nurses held you down in a secure ward and drugged you against your will.
@drpiddleton I am scientist and a political activist and the political activist in me can imagine me or other political activists being forcibly drugged against our will.
You find it difficult to imagine yourself or a sane person in the shoes of someone being forcibly "medicated" in a way which damages their brain.
Psychiatrists should be stopped and doctors who support shrinks must be struck off the medical register because you are sworn to "DO NO HARM" yet violate the Hippocratic oath.
@drpiddleton What if you weren't having hallucinations or scary delusions but a psychiatrist said you were? The shrink insisted that your view was delusional, insisted that you were delusional if you thought for one minute that a qualified psychiatrist could make a mistake about your views, that it was delusional to imagine that people were trying to damage your brain and the one sure way to stop you thinking delusional thoughts like that was to drug you up and make you apathetic?
@britishflagbearer my logic is based on the thousands of people every year who seek help from the mental health services and are successfully treated. These drugs are not harmful to the brain. Psychiatrists are not robbing people of their intelligence or creativity, if anything it is the illnesses themselves that damages cognition.
@drpiddleton The issue is the thousands who are not allowed to refuse "treatment".
The drugs are harmful to the brain and the proof of that is that you do not take them, nor do your psychiatrist friends, because none of you want your mental faculties ruined. If you were to be forced fed or forcibly injected with those drugs you would see that as an violation, poisoning and assault of yourself - or at least you would before the drugs kicked in and made you apathetic about everything.
All the psychiatrists I know hate using drugs and only keep ECT as a last resort. So again tell me what would you so with a severe patient who is going through an acute phase of psychosis and is threatening to kill themselves? I doubt you have an answer or if you even care. Your thing is to just attack the very people do care and are able to do something.
@drpiddleton Psychiatrists hate using drugs? And rapists hate raping women? And Nazis hate exterminating Jews?
The issue is that many victims of psychiatrists (only "patients" in the perverted view of the shrinks) have their hatred of being forcibly sectioned, drugged or ECTed overruled by psychiatrists.
There should be no more legal or political cover for psychiatrists who must be arrested and jailed.
As for someone who is going to kill themselves - straight-jacket & padded room.
@drpiddleton What makes you most disgusting as a human being is that you turn a blind eye to the people who are perfectly well, not ill, but who are sectioned, drugged, and have their brains destroyed because their viewpoints are politically or legally inconvenient.
Decent people need defending from evil vermin like you who are apologists for an arbitrary brain-killing profession. If you are a doctor you should be struck off.
@drpiddleton Your logic is that one successful outcome - a person stopped from committing suicide by a psychiatrist's drugs excuses the routine abuse. You save one life so you think that gives you the right to destroy many other healthy brains of scientists, engineers, artists, musicians, writers, workers - every manner of good working brain - you reserve the right to decide if that brain must have its creativity destroyed and reduced to drooling idiot who is no match for your evil wits.
@drpiddleton You dare to say you care? When you would allow psychiatrists to drug people so that they no longer cared about themselves, their family, their work.
A caring person, a political activist who takes a stand and annoys the powers that be who have him arrested - you want psychiatrists to be allowed to eliminate that caring brain.
You are the enemy of anyone who cares. You are evil dressed up as caring - a wolf in sheep's clothing. You deserve the fate of the wolf sir. BANG! BANG!
@Ghostwrangler64 you have avoided my questions, which is not surprising. It is typical of people on here, you make these exaggerated claims and when somebody tries to challenge your beliefs you can't come up with any logical or even remotely satisfactory responses so you continue with your ramblings against psychiatry.
Question: What do you do when religion ( the first social control) doesn't work on everybody? Answer is you find a replacement aka psychology. Psychology was picked up as a means of social control and nothing more. If certain people with real control and power didn't they think they could use psychology then this so call profession would be no more respected than a witch doctor in today's society. Truth hurts but lets move on from here.
they diagnose every single person they possibly can...it doesnt come out of their pocket..it comes out of the patient's pocket...so if they don't diagnose somoene as insane then that is one less person that has to pay for treatment...so they TRY to diagnose AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE irregardless of sanity or insanity
pharmacies make a killing...and hospitals make a killing charging insurers for treatments that cost nothing but are billed for thousands
Besides all of our medicine involves experimentation. Do you think that a cardiologist KNOWS what will happen to his patient if he prescribes drug X. No. But his experience and education tells him that it is unlikely that his patient will experience an adverse reaction to the drug and on balance prescribing the medication is more likely to do good than harm. Psychiatrists work the same way. The difference is, they don't know why or how their drugs work, only that they do work.
Like our RTA patient some mental health patients lack capacity to make these important decisions for themselves. How you going to get informed consent from someone who can barely make sense of reality. I knew somebody who put a screwdriver through his neck because he wanted to let the voices out of his body, which he believed were paranormal in origin. he was sectioned and given anti psychotics - now he is living a relatively normal life.
And you say that informed consent should be obtained prior to treatment. I agree but there circumstances when this is simply not possible. For instance a road accident victim who arrives to A+E unconscious state? Do you need his permission before you can give life saving surgery? No you work in his best interest by operating on the assumption that if he still had capacity to make decisions this is what he would have wanted for himself.
How much experience do you have with the psychiatric services? Have you been on a mental health ward and see what goes on? What is your solution when a schizophrenic patient presents in casualty following an overdose because he believes that the CIA are planning to murder him in the next month? Or what about a mother who is hearing voices telling her to kill her seven year old son? The only solution is anti psychotics. I am not a psychiatrist, but have seen first hand how effective some of th
.. and I wish scientologists do the same rather than be so fixated on making these rash claims. In medicine and surgery we base our decision making on the data collected from multiple scientific trials and psychiatrists do the same in their practice.
@drpiddleton It is an outrage to decent people that individuals are compelled to be treated like guinea pigs in some grotesque experimental trial to see exactly how much a person's health is ruined by the psychiatrist's trial imposing a drug poison or brain electrocution or surgery on an unwilling person.
Informed consent for any trial or treatment should be a legal requirement but certainly already is a political requirement.
Psychiatrist are the contemporary version of witch doctors, only more evil like Dr. Frankensteins, using vulnerable people for drug experiments, insurance fraud, and electro-shock experiments. A person with a mental illness might as well be a lab rat with no human rights.
As a practicing physician I can tell you from first hand experience that a specialty which completely follows scientific principles simply doesn't exist. We all rely at different degrees our on basic clinical intuition. Medicine is a science and an art. We do however follow evidence base medicine
Psychiatry supports the pharmaceutical industry via SSRI's, Benzodiazepines...etc. Cardiology does it with Beta Blockers, Calcium Channel Blockers, Inotropes... etc. .. and so on. Psychology, on the other hand, blames the individual for society's problems. It's part of a compartmentalized attack on individuals being fueled by a fiats. Take care of your body, don't be afraid of death, live within your means and the corrupt system comes tumbling down. Simple really.
R.D.Laing (I knew him) came from a disturbed, dysfunctional background was himself disturbed & dysfunctional with serious alcohol, drug & bipolar issues.
Psychiatrists are no different from the rest of humanity in that they too can suffer mental illness. Indeed there are some people who are attracted to mental health studies & occupations because of their own personal issues.
Like the rest of medicine, Psychiatry is not an exact science & can be misused, but generally does more good than harm.
Psychiatry was developed before 1900 in Germany to get rid of people complaining.First use of directed energy weapons can be seen in psychiatric literature from 1908, see Psychiatrie->Zur Klinik der Narkolepsie on my homepage.After murdering oponents in ww2,Psychiatry was relaunched in´45 to persecute+silence concentration camp survivors.
As a Doctor in a German nuthouse said:
Half the inmates are mad.The other half are secret service agents on training.
I was diagnosed as being clinically depressed and remained in this diagnoses for 6 years. On July 17th 1999 @ 10:30am I was converted. The lifting of that black and stormy cloud was immediate. Later I studied to discover the cause and the cure. Rmns 2:9 ''Tribulation and distress upon every soul of humanity that worketh evil''. When my sin was forgiven the wrath of Elohim was lifted along with the attendant tribulation and distress.
Oscar A, a member of the Brescia org. He was , a follower of Brescia org, a mentally unstable person who turned to Scientology looking for help. He realised that the “therapy” was bogus and tried to leave but was persecuted with telephone calls, psychological threats etc., and he became much worse than he had been before and finally hanged himself on 21 September 1987.
Francois X, who killed himself mid-July 1991 aged 30 having spent 80,000 FF on auditing and the Purification rundown without gaining anything of value. Still hounded by the cult he killed himself, leaving a note in which he imagined the happiness he could have had ‘had the church of Scientology not existed.”
There are two things to consider: Time and Intensity. Jim Jones was intense and took 900 people all at once. CoS has taken people over time. No one knows the actual number of people CoS has killed or driven to suicide because CoS works over time as opposed to a single intense event. The mere fact that CoS is associated with death and suicide is alone sufficient to brand it as a dangerous cult. J. Swift, OCMB, 20 November 2010
you created this beasly science and i suffered greatly within the walls of these hell's. A prison built specifically for me. A place that you use to break me now I tell you with the loudest of all roars RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! dont play with me. cuase you will soon be walking in the shoes of a tortured soul under the care of such a system.
Fuck all you Scientologists. I tried it. Pure bullshit. Without psychiatry, I would probably be dead today. If you disagree, I don't give a shit. You only KNOW what God... I mean LRH and Davie miscavige tells you to know. You're a bunch a pathetic brainwashed, non-thinking assholes.
Enough with the scientology nonsense. everyone knows scientology is weird but that does not mean they are wrong on psychiatry. why don't you people look into the history of psychiatry. one fuck up after another. Insulin coma therapy, ECT, lobotomy. Now they lobotomize people with SSRI'S, Xanax, and Seroquel. They were also very close to the eugenics movement helping legitimize it with the biological theory of mental illness. These people are psychotic.
@scottyb453 Your right, Scientology brainwashed alien ideas make less sense then conspiracy theories, it is a cult , it was all a deception and a psychological operation to manipulate people, I am a thud, I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and also out within 2 months and I never went back, it transcends racial boundaries, I lived my life and became successful I live independent form my parents and I am a university student taking a break from school. Pseudo-Science nazi Eugenics=origin
@scottyb453 History of Science is pretty fucked up, but thanks to it, today we're able to live healthy. But of course there are some cases that are really fucked up, but that doesn't mean psychiatry is a crap science. It's like saying water is bad for your body "because it takes away you inner fluids" come on.
@JohnnyJohnW Psychiatry is the furthest thing from science there is. Anyone who looks at the evidence would realize that their pills don't work and cause brain damage. This is pretty apparent if you read the long term outcome literature but they nevertheless keep prescribing these drugs. This spits in the face of evidence/science based medicine. 11% of Americans are on SSRI's for gods sake. Psychiatry in America isn't medicine, they are big pharma's drug dealers.
psychiatry is not a fake science...its just an evolving one.
we get better at it with upgrades in technology....the brain is the least understood organ in the human body. psychiatry is the science of trying to understand its biological functions....so how is that fake? is it not more truthful to state that a lot of doctors are just crap at their job?
@freedomchaser2402 Psychiatrists are quacks who are defrauding the public yet trusted by the state to deprive people of their freedom and wreck their lives. It is a great evil of our age. It is not science.
I have sent you another video " Psychiatry Is A Mental Disorder" watch?v=bPOrD6xfDNo
@BritishFlagBearer i do agree with you to a certain extent. i do believe the science of psychiatry is nowhere near enough evovled for any psychiatrist to make a diagnosis. we dont understand the brain enough yet.
every psychiatrist i have ever seen have conflicting ideas about my own mind (and i know my mind better than anyone else on this planet- so realistically, im the only one, qualified enough through my own experiences to have any idea what is going on in my head)
@BritishFlagBearer i also see the same conflicts within GP's where their own individuality and learned mental constraints brings them to a point where they seldomly agree with eachother on the best way to deal with illnessess. they almost killed my gran after she had a heart attack by taking her off warfarin and to quote the doc that took her off it "the body can be quite good at healing its self"...my grans entire left ventricle is dead and she has an aortic aneurism.
@BritishFlagBearer when she 1st had the heart attack, her GP told her to take more lansoprozole as he told her it was just indigestion. so i have no faith in any of the medical professionals....doctors or psychiatrists. cause i get the feeling they dont quite know what theyre doing...they dont seem to work by logic but by text books. i have faith in science as science is about discovery. but people in the medical profession are no longer scientist (or healers) it is now sadly all about money
i had a childhood friend who i knew for a long time.he moved away one day, and couple years lator i met him again,but this time he was put on pychiatric medication like on 2 or 3 different ones,he wasnt the same.he seemed lifeless and boring, pyschiatry is fake unproven science, i hate hate hate psychiatry ......its scam , it dumbs you down and sucks the life out of you dont forget to take your medications you sheep!!
it just makes me so angry to realize what mindless animals people are..
The methods available to psychology aren't as advanced as those available in the diagnosis of other illnesses in the medical profession. I can go to a doctor and claim that I have all the symptoms of diabetes, and I can take a test and definitively prove that I do not have diabetes.
But with psychology, the only method available is based on the testimony of the patient. So it is no surprise that a false diagnosis may be brought about through lying or impersonation.
@AndrewLLFrazier This does not mean psychology as a profession is fake. There are many clear demonstrations that validate psychiatry (and psychology) as a science, these are better known as case studies. Cases in which the dysfunction is so evident that it should leave no doubt that conditions like schizophrenia or bi polar are very real conditions.
@AndrewLLFrazier There are also other studies which should leave little doubt in the validation of psychiatry as a science, such as the story of the discovery in 1969 of L-Dopa use in the treatment of of patients afflicted with Encephalitis Lethagica - a disease which caused patients to be permanently catatonic. After administering large amounts of dopamine, they awoke, at first they were normal, but after a period, they became paranoid schizophenic.
@AndrewLLFrazier this is what formed the basis of the dopamine hypothesis - that the conditions and behaviors of schizophrenia occurred due to an imbalance of dopamine in the brain. There have been many studies showing the relation between schizophrenia and dopamine in the brain.
@AndrewLLFrazier The story about Encephalitis Lethargica is probably one of the most interesting stories in medical history, after decades of being catatonic these patients awoke! Then slowly lost their minds and eventually were taken off the drug, only to live the rest of their lives in a catatonic state.
The story was made into a movie starring Robert Deniro and Robin Williams. If you want to see it the movie, it goes by the name "Awakenings".
@apapap187 He'll be addicted to the anti-psychotic by now so coming off it won't be easy.
If he misses his routine injection altogether then he could get massive withdrawal symptoms from going "cold turkey" and may need to be put in a straight-jacket and padded room for as many weeks as it takes for him to get better.
Even if he agreed to endure that and came off the drug the courts may not recognise that and may order him arrested and injected and then he'd be back to square one.
@apapap187 Perhaps a better plan is to get agreement from his doctor and lawyer to follow a plan of weaning him off the drug, taking less and less each time until eventually he is off it altogether.
@apapap187 schizophrenia is real. I have suffered from it for 10 years. about 2 years ago I stopped being able to concentrate. It became hard to remember simple things. You can see the disease progress in my school notes. The science of psychiatry is still in its infancy. In my case (especially) there is little psychiatrists can do to treat my illness.
Anti-psychotics can help with delusions and hallucinations - but in my case it didn't make my quality of life improve.
How could science determine if consciousness has positive or negative attributes when science is unsure as to whether or not consciousness even truly exists? Claiming that one's eternal void possesses flawed attributes is false logic. First know what is consciousness and then make judgements about what is going on. If there is nothing actually going on, then no judgement need be made. What is there to judge in pure void? If there is something going on, then all are eternally ignorant.
how is this proving that psychiatry is a scam? you shouldn't screw around with doctors. If im in a good shape & go to a Doc and tell him i have stomach pain he'll give me painkillers. IT IS WHAT THEY DO. it's not some game to fuck with. I agree they should do more tests and what not but science is not THAT developped! You can't see depresseion or suicidal thoughts in a brain scan. They are only here to HELP us, this is not a conspiracy, grow up :/
WOW! I have meet with shrinks. Everyone one of them are nothing but kind, understanding and are motivated by the reward of helping other. And the people who think they are a bunch of crocks are very hostile, angry people. Who post things about pointing a gun to their head. Get some self respect and think of other first. Instead of blaming everyone for troubles in your life. Find ways to correct it yourself. Or move on. Just keep in mind that someone will always have it worse than you. Take care
@LoveVanillaRose Audrey, you comment reads as spam and says nothing about the video. I nearly just deleted it, blocked you and forgot you. Luckily, I checked out your channel before I did.
I was surprised and delighted to see on your channel that in fact you do take an interest in these matters and indeed your channel page features a great video titled "Psychiatry Is A Mental Disorder"
watch?v=bPOrD6xfDNo
although it would be better named - "Psychiatry: An Industry of Death. (An intro)".
@LoveVanillaRose Therefore Audrey, because I want you to be an effective campaigner, I strongly advise you in future comments on other videos to post a comment more along the lines of my earlier comment but by all means add your own touch at the end thus -
A great video titled "Psychiatry Is A Mental Disorder"
watch?v=bPOrD6xfDNo
although it would be better named - "Psychiatry: An Industry of Death. (An intro)".
@LoveVanillaRose Or rather your channel used to feature the ""Psychiatry Is A Mental Disorder" video because I see you have changed your featured video already. Gosh you are a busy lady.
@ForeverResplendent I tried to send you a message to invite you to the For Freedom Forums for robust political debate, inspired by Scots,open to all. "FIGH. TK"
But YouTube told me -
"User foreverresplendent has enabled friend lock. You will not be able to send messages to them unless they add you as a friend."
there truly is no-one sicker than the pDocs who diagnosed these to be insane.
sure the test subjects lied. they told ONE lie, and they were kept in psyche wards for months for this? What kind of lies were all the pDocs telling themselves to justify what THEY had done?
Truly, just how delusional are these pDocs? Their charade lasted for hours that stretched into days and weeks and months.
The test subjects charade was ONE simple lie. pDocs see only what they want to see. they are delusional.
@briansmutti From my experience pdocs are pretty delusional. To think that removing parts of people's brains is going to help them, you have have to be living in another reality. Being a psychiatrist is a test case in cognitive dissonance.
The Thud Experiment is ridiculous.. Faking a psychotic disorder is the same as faking any medical disorder... If I were to drink a quart of blood and, concealing what I had done, come to the emergency room of any hospital vomiting blood, the behavior of the staff would be quite predictable. If they labeled and treated me as having a bleeding peptic ulcer, I doubt that I could argue convincingly that medical science does not know how to diagnose that condition....
@DJCrabCake Saying you can hear the word "THUD" is not "faking a psychotic disorder" it is simply saying something.
It is the only quack-medicine of psychiatry which interprets spoken words as a non-existing medical disorder exposing just how meaningless the quack-diagnosis is.
Also imprisoning someone and forcing drugs etc. into them damaging their brain does not qualify as "treatment".
This bunch of quacks is a NOT a valid medical profession. Replace their white coats with handcuffs!
@thesentinelonline "Psychiatry" is a recent addition to the med. specialties. Laing wrote of his mentor Joe Schorstein that he thought any psychiatr. that wasn't a competent neurologist was pretty much useless. (Schorstein had been a British Army neurosurgeon in N. Africa, during WWII.) Laing also wrote that he went into psychiatry because he lacked the math skills to specialize in embryology.
L Ron Hubbard was given Vistaril® by Dr. Gene Denk in his final days, by intramuscular injection in the right buttocks. Vistaril® is a psychiatric drug, used to calm frantic or overly anxious patients. He died on January 24th, 1986, eight days after the fatal stroke, and one day after signing his last will and testament. He died in a 1982 Blue Bird motor home, about five miles East of Creston, CA, at the very remote "Emanuel Camp". His fingernails and toenails were long and unkempt.
I'ed tell you a story about Bedlam Hospital patients stealing the identitys of the doctors, but now they're all in the NHS writing up fake medical conditions to make paedos look like Jesus, I'ed rather not bother!
Also in the United States schools are very motivated to "find" mental patients because our government pays more for a mentally ill student. I have heard that a lot of children are being labeled mentally ill simply because it pays more. The school will tell the parents that if they don't medicate their children they can't attend school. For more info you can go to ablechild org.
In today Germany systematic maltreatment of children is organized by the state and executed by snitchers.The psychiatric literature holds many reports of jewish children having been persecuted in exactly this way.Since WW2 psychiatry was regularly misused by Germany to discredit and persecute the NAZI victims.Germany pretended to pay compensation to get the former victims into the hand of shrinks certifying them being mental cases due to persecution.Sometimes they even got some 100$ compensation
Did we forget about the fMRI and other methods to measure brain activity and how that could maybe lead to proper diagnosis of mental disorders? Is Broca's Aphasia fake? Don't think so. Brain chemical problems cannot be faked. Overt behavior can.
I have been diagnosed with different diagnosis by every psychiatrist I have seen.
The most absurd was that I was retarded. If that was the case, I do not know how I graduated valedictorian from college.
The worst was schizophrenic. They gave me risperdal which caused a stroke and ruined my life. Thanks Psychiatry - You make satanists look like girl-scouts.
They should come out with a diagnosis called AZD - Apathetic Zombie Disorder. It's signs and symptoms are watching too much TV, eating GMO foods, drinking water with fluoride, and taking their yearly flu vaccine. In addition, it is characterized by having no regard that they are being led to the slaughter by their elected officials and the elite whom promise to protect their freedom while creating more laws to take them away.
David Rosenhan is one of the leaders of the anti psychiatry movement and he IS a licensed pactricing psychologist. His experiment is studied in a lot of psychology programs.
In today Germany systematic maltreatment of children is organized by the state and executed by snitchers.The psychiatric literature holds many reports of jewish children having been persecuted in exactly this way.Since WW2 psychiatry was regularly misused by Germany to discredit and persecute the NAZI victims.Germany pretended to pay compensation to get the former victims into the hand of shrinks certifying them being mental cases due to persecution.Sometimes they even got some 100$ compensation
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As a Psychiatrist of 36 years, my field has been attacked. Why not attack other industries. I am making this plain and simple. I am a MD I graduated UCLA. I have successfully along with my many colleagues treated many disorders. STOP I REPEAT STOP PLEASE STOP ABUSING THESE WONDERFULL DRUGS WE PERSCRIBE. And HOW DARE YOU! I AM A HONEST MAN AND I
DO TEST WHEN NEEDED. I will medicate you, your children and you entire family if needed! stop the rubbish!
@benmdnp755 Your threat to "medicate" us all makes me think your comment is intended to be satirical. I didn't laugh because my fear and hatred of modern psychiatry runs too deep. No doubt you have a drug for that?
Psychiatrists should beware that we the people have got some guns pointed at "you" psychiatrists. It is like a game of rock, paper, scissors. Guns beats drugs.
@BritishFlagBearer Psychiatrists have studied for over a decade to become licensed. I take their scientific word and expertise over a youtube video. Then again, you clearly have a hidden reason why you have an unfounded hate for psychiatry. (possibly scientologist, etc)
@BroGuyDude I am the scientist here and on the day when I was held in prison and a psychiatrist who did not have the biology science qualification I had, had the cheek to tell me she was recommending I be remanded to a psychiatric hospital for examination, I developed a reasoned hatred of that woman and her profession I had long distrusted.
I am not a scientologist.
I wrote about my experiences on my web-page "Arrogant and tyrannical judges
That lady you talk about has a undergraduate degree (most often in biological science), medical degree and four year psychiatric residency training. And all these are minimum requirements in the US to become a psychiatrist.
Now I don't understand how your are more qualified than her.
plus you are in prison, your judgment is already impaired.
@neurozero Well I had a A-band-1 pass in Higher biology (good enough for entrance to study for a biology degree at university) which she told me she didn't have. I have a university bachelor of science degree in computer science.
We are not in the US but Britain (clue my channel name) and yes she has a qualification for this field according to one university here but in her forensic assessment to the court she gave no reason for her recommendation and it was rejected and I was released.
@neurozero I was in prison but the judge who ordered me there was at fault. According to you there is never an innocent man with good judgement locked up in prison, and Nelson Mandela who was locked up in prison in South Africa for 27 years for opposing apartheid had "impaired judgment"?
Perhaps because I am now blocking user you from this channel, this means your judgement is already impaired?
As an ignorant prejudiced fool she and you have the usual qualifications to be a psychiatrist.
@neurozero How does studying a work of fiction for four years make a psychiatrist more qualified than a palm reader ?? How is it that being in prison impairs judgement?
@BroGuyDude . Honestly. How woul you describe or define an expert? By the length of time he/she has studied or by the results he/she is producing, and in this case healthy people and a healthier society. Don't you agree? So what are those respectable scientists actually doing? After all, the insanity statistics are soaring and crime statistics are on a wild climb. How does one account for that? People of today are simply better informed than they were years ago, and questions are being raised.
@benmdnp755 your field isn't the only one being attacked. Dr.s in general who prescribe non patented alternatives to drugs are often ridiculed. It seems you think drugs are a good solution. truth is most are just as temporary of a fix as street drugs. It sounds very unprofessional and quite scary for a psychiatrist to threaten someone with the medication they have access to. for the sake of your patients I hope you find yourself some help and alternative permanent solutions to cure them. peace
@benmdnp755 In Congress there's a man who has been gaining power, the Tea Party movement backs him. On his agenda is to CRIPPLE PSYCHIATRIC INFLUENCE here in USA. I certainly do believe he will succeed. We WILL see the day when all thoughtful people--including judges and legislators--say to "mental health professionals"--LEAVE US ALONE--CAN'T YOU SEE WE'RE BUSY? Funding for your toxic drugs will go to zero, you will be forbidden to vote, own land, have drivers license etc HAW FUCKING HAW.
@benmdnp755 . Attack other industries. Not in this post. It is a bout this video.
Real "Honesty" and "Wonderfull drugs"? One cannot help but concluding that psychiatry is making insane people. Why? Read the news: "insanity statiscics are soaring, crime statistics are on a wild climb". Makes one wonder why that is. Isn't that your field of expertise? Not very impressive! Is it? How can you blame us for complaining?
@benmdnp755 So, you are a psychiatrist for 36 years? Big deal. If I learned how to practice medicine from some clown who made it all up, but was smart enough to seem logical and make sense, it doesn't mean I'm smart or accurate just because I've learned 36 years of rubbish.
You are suppressing symptoms and having them be manifested elsewhere either physically or mentally. Perhaps you should learn the origin of your field and watch The Marketing of Madness - are we all insane?
Nice try, but it's pretty obvious that you aren't an MD. Judging by your spelling and grammar I'd say you're still in high school (could be wrong though).
I also can't think of any trained professional in ANY field threatening someone with a form treatment within their field (this shows me that you already think of medication with negative connotations, which a real psychiatrist wouldn't). Once again, nice try. Hail Xenu! lol, jk.
@benmdnp755 Since you have been in the field for 36 years could you answer a couple of valid questions please. If there is objective scientific justification of mental disorders why: 1) Do psychiatrists still diagnose with opinion and not an objective laboratory test like physicians? & 2) Why aren't these "bio-chemically proven" disorders now a neurologist's problem like epilepsy is, since that was originally a psychiatric illness until he biological mechanism was found?
@benmdnp755 It gets attacked because most of modern psychiatry can be traced back to eugenicist Nazi Germany.... the use of drugs within the field anyway.
@benmdnp755 How is it you managed to become a Medical Doctor if you can't spell and your punctuation is horrible? And excuse me, but are you screaming at me? How professional! I have never seen a true MD respond to ANY video on YT. Maybe you're some kid who saw an afternoon special?
@benmdnp755 Yeah, your drugs are so "WONDERFUL(L)" that the risperdal I was presribed caused me to have a stroke. These neuroleptics bind to the neurons and impair all brain function. They also cause Tardrive Dyskinesia which is hell to live with. Your drugs have ruined my life and I think that Psychiatrist is the lowest job someone can have. You are the scum of the earth and profit off of lies and others misery. How about you take them yourself to prove they are safe. Take risperdal for a year!
The ideas expressed by the CCHR are so extreme, bizarre, irrational, illogical and ridiculous that it is impossible to take them (or Dianetics) seriously or reasonable in any way. For example, Hubbard (and the Church of Scientology) blames psychiatry for the rise of Hitler and Stalin, World War 2, the Holocaust, the attack on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Centre on 9/11, the Virginia Tech shootings, the war in Kosova and numerous other international tragedies.
@OpenComments I can see where the blame for the Virginia Tech shootings might be laid at the door of psychiatry - wasn't the shooter on psychiatrically prescribed medicine, and problems with that maybe sent him over the edge?
It is harder to imagine what the logic could be for blaming psychiatry for Hitler and Stalin. I read a story that a psychiatrist told Saddam Hussein to quit and he was killed by Hussein for his impudence - I presume Hitler and Stalin would have done the same?
@BritishFlagBearer I don't know about Stalin, but Hitler had extensive psychiatric treatment before the Holocaust. The theory of eugenics was all the rage in psychiatry at that time, and Hitler used that to throw a veil of "science" over the genocidal rampage.
@OpenComments Possibly the key passage in the video is this "Psychiatry, Laing said, was a fake science used as a system of political control to shore up a violent collapsing society. Its categories of madness and sanity had no reality. Madness was simply a convenient label used to lock away those who wanted to break free."
I'd have to agree that whenever I have tried to break free of the authority of professors, police or monarchy, I do get labelled as "mad" by those who respect them.
Flunk for failing to acknowledge that, at OT III, you learn about the evil alien overlord Xenu blowing aliens up in volcanoes creating body thetans. Start.
In 1950, Hubbard originally created Dianetics to be an adjunct to psychiatry, and respected psychiatry as he sought psychiatric help himself several times. However, not surprisingly, Dianetics was rejected completely by the Psychiatric and Medical community and Hubbard took this rejection personally and became intensely bitter and paranoid towards Psychiatry. So, in 1969, he set up the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) to expose what he considered to be the evils of psychiatry.
@OpenComments Maybe so but this video makes its own independent criticism of psychiatry - that of Laing, Rosenhan and the thud experiment - that is the topic here.
Whilst you have knocked Hubbard, CCHR's criticism of psychiatry etc in your comment here you are not addressing the topic here and going off topic somewhat.
I have answered you in such a way as to try to bring you back "on topic" here. You are invited to post regarding Hubburd etc. in the For Freedom Forums.
Bipolar=unexpressed genius struggling to cope with a breed of lower intelligence all around them. How would you feel if you were a genius surrounded by babbling idiots? You would go crazy too.
Are there some people who were lucky enough to benefit from psychiatry...? Seems like they are the minority. Anyways this is going to suck for the SAD, DPD, APD guys...But this is based on what I'm aware of which is lacking...and then there are kleptomaniac--I really do not understand it.
Now my aunt is thrown into the loony bin because she can't cope with being taken advantaged of by this douche bag who fled the scene with her entire savings. I don't know her well, but like to know what's up.
If you think these thugs are bad when they do things openly & officially, you're lucky to know nothing of what these products of their prostitute mother's intestine that didn't get flushed, do in combination with government agencies who have the ability to do things covertly & unofficially... away from legal & public scrutiny. That's when you can see their truest colors & you will rightly come to know that the world would greatly benefit if pieces of whore's shit, each got one between the eyes
1/2 of the unemployed in France take these drugs.
XavierAtriedes 2 weeks ago
Giving a somone psychological drugs may seem the easiest option in the short run if they are causing problems, but you have to prepare yourself for that family member never getting a job and becoming a hobo.
XavierAtriedes 2 weeks ago
NOT JUST SCIENTOLOGY , MANY DIFFERENT ORGANISATIONS ARE AGAINST PSYCHIATRY,INCLUDING MANY MEDICAL PERSONNELS . PSYCHIATRY IS NOT JUST A SCAM, IT'S DANGEROUS TO MIND AND BODY .
sasaragi2 3 weeks ago
Hmm....sounds like the plan of repubs to destroy help for the mentally ill. Psychiatry is a tool like any other can be used for good or bad. It just doesn't exist to those who are not human or have any human feelings as their conscience is suppressed or dead. And it has always been known that mental illness is induced by demons who possess people. Jesus healed and cleansed some of those mentally ill. And they became normal and lived. You rarely see any being exorcised today, do u?
Licmycat 1 month ago
@Licmycat Religion is not provable anyway, so don't use it as evidence. Psychiatry contains very little neurological evidence to support all their claims. They tell us that people have all these disorders, when the "disorders" are really just differences in human nature and personality. No one can make generalizations about something as diverse as human nature.
person8110 1 month ago
@person8110 Neither are you provable either. Why are you hiding behind a blank pix? You could get away with murder if there is no witness, so what? You may be a killer. You can't stand the thought of admitting ur crime and sin since ur against religion. Most people that are crazy deny that they are. And I know because I've worked with many as a care-taker. So you are crazy if you aren't the killer. I don't see you chiding anyone who calls me crazy. Who are you?
Licmycat 1 month ago
WOW!
Drhamburgerhill 1 month ago
Psychiatry is a scam period.
tien714 1 month ago 2
@tien714 I tried to send you an invite to the For Freedom Forums, web address FIGH.TK
But I couldn't. YouTube said "User tien714 has enabled friend lock. You will not be able to send messages to them unless they add you as a friend."
BritishFlagBearer 1 month ago
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Friend lock is there for good reason. What is For Freedom-Forums? What is the benefit of the invitation?
Psychiatry has no science to backup their claims; it's all a scam.
tien714 1 month ago
@tien714 The For Freedom Forums for robust political debate, inspired by Scots, open to all. There is a link under this video to FIGH.TK which you can click to investigate the forums.
The benefit of this type of discussion forum over YouTube comments is that it is easier to structure debates around topics wherein many authors can quote many videos and other sources.
Such forum allow us to organise politically independently where YouTube's commerical interests do not call the shots.
BritishFlagBearer 1 month ago
@tien714 For example with regard to this video, if the drug companies who manufacture psychiatric drugs hate this video and others like it, they might complain to YouTube and get such videos taken down.
Unless we who question psychiatry are organised independently we are vulnerable to being disorganised by YouTube pulling the plug for whatever reason.
This applies too for many other political issue where enemies may seek to deny our freedom to organise against their narrow interests.
BritishFlagBearer 1 month ago
Psychology is still in a preparadigmatic stage...it's a new study relative to other sciences. We once thought the earth was flat, now we can prove it's not. They used to think Galileo was crazy. Currently psychology is still in it's growing stage and we will someday be able to better explain mental process and increase the validity of psychiatric diagnosis.
Djpoo225 1 month ago
@Djpoo225 Psychology =| Psychiatry.
7ty714 2 weeks ago
@7ty714 Does your =I symbol mean "not equivalent"? Because I know they aren't equivalent, but they share one extremely important thing...that's psychology. You can't tell me that they are two totally different professions. They have both stemmed from the same philosophers. Either way, the study in question in this video was David Rosenhan's. An American Psychologist who was questioning the validity of psychiatric diagnosis. Psychology is the basis of psychiatry don't tell me you deny that?
Djpoo225 2 weeks ago
Holynshit who would choose to take part in this experiment?
LadyCocoa1234 2 months ago
Thorazine "was instrumental in the development of neuropsychopharmacology, a new discipline dedicated to the study of mental pathology with the employment of centrally acting drugs." "Neuro-psychopharmacology,” the scientific discipline dedicated to the study and treatment of the pathophysiology of mental syndromes with the employment of centrally acting drugs." Thomas Ban, M.D.
Is this the perfect storm of corruption? Official ACNP Journal Neuropsychopharmacology by Vera Sharav July 2006.
LAEXCITOSAAPARECIDA 2 months ago
Donald Klein, MD Diagnosis and Drug Treatment of Psychiatric Disorders.
"Psychopharmacological treatment responce was used as a nosolgical tool, an approach that has been reffered to as psychopharmacological dissection."
Google: autism risperidone drooling NEJM. Peer reviewed Journal pubilished Scientific test! A Neurotoxin is Recommended for Children with brain impairment!
PSYCHIATRIC STIGMA Lawrence Stevens
LAEXCITOSAAPARECIDA 2 months ago
See - Creation of the Modern Medical (Drug) Establishment
by G. Edward Griffin; Medical Control, Medical Corruption by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr. and, What's in a name? Terming non-standard medical treatment - Townsend's New York Observer by Marcus A. Cohen, Townsend Letter Magazine April 2004
Psychiatrist diagnosis is exclusively "Psychological," these are Psychiatric Diagnoses... Treatment is Medical... "Medicines" (zenobiotic, PATENTED, drugging chemical agents), ECT and Psychosurgery.
LAEXCITOSAAPARECIDA 2 months ago
Psychiatric would-be diagnosis is Psychological in nature - done with Clinical Interview, the Professional Opinion of the Clinician, Behavioral Reports and Psychological Word Tests such as the MMPI, , 500 yes or no questions with no space to explain why one choice yes or no. (Who cares.)
They label people based on their Objectivity and the Objectivity of their Leaders. They can pretend their "naming system" and "tests" are authoritative because our Medical Schools were taken over by super rich
LAEXCITOSAAPARECIDA 2 months ago
The diagnostic exams do not exist. The Con Game of Psychiatry uses no medical tests. First they sauy that the problem is psychological - therefore they use the DSM labeling checklist for "psychiatric diagnosis." The taxonomy and nosology of psychiatry - the Con involves pretence to being Neutonian Scientific -Objective rational professional modern academic.
They use the words taxonomy & nosology in a pretence that they were qualified to create a (Linnaen) Taxonomy of "psychological" traits.
LAEXCITOSAAPARECIDA 2 months ago
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I guess I can get off these meds now.
SnakemanisJeff 3 months ago
@britishflagbearer ..I admit that bad practice can and has happened, the same with any specialty, but you are clearly overestimating the magnitude of such problems and you are suggesting dropping a form of treatment that has been demonstrated to help thousands upon thousands of vulnerable people because of a few examples where psychiatrists, for whatever reason, have got it wrong!! If we did this for every specialty western medicine would come to a very sudden end!!!!
drpiddleton 3 months ago
@drpiddleton It is you who has got it wrong by accepting that psychiatrists with the courts should be empowered to impose their actions upon the unwilling.
Psychiatric practice has no more to do with civilised western medicine than has Ugandan witch doctors sacrificing children to bring luck to a commercial venture, as exposed recently on the BBC. It is to do with western abuse of power.
The Ugandan witch doctors abuse & violate children and you do the same and to adults. You are worse.
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago 2
@britishflagbearer. If you knew anything about psychiatry you would know that the British system is so underfunded that it makes huge efforts to keep patients out of the wards in order to reserve places for the acutely unwell. Are you really a scientist because you have not done a particularly poor job in convincing me with objective evidence that what you say is true?? All I get is absurd claims that makes me wonder if you are somebody who is stuck in the 70s to cone out with this rubbish.
drpiddleton 3 months ago
@drpiddleton If you knew anything about politics you would know that cost is no object for the powerful - judges, health service managers when it comes to pleasing their political masters and keeping their jobs.
If the wigs and the shrinks get the nod from the politicians to eliminate a political critic then the money will be found for the necessary injections, ECT or lobotomy to save future political blushes.
Do you think the Nazi holocaust was a cost free exercise? This evil is pre-70s.
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
@britishflagbearer ....except some experiment that was done years ago but nobody is claiming that psychiatry doesn't have a checkered history, what I am trying to get through to you is that on the whole psychiatry has cleaned up its act and is now governed by strict regulations to prevent such things from happening. Eg regular tribunals
drpiddleton 3 months ago
@britishflagbearer ....being evil, far from it, they providing a valuable service to society so why single out psychiatry for attack in this manner. I will tell you why? Ignorance. You claim to say these drugs cause brain damage but you have failed to make a single attempt to back this up with objective evidence. You also claim that psychiatrist are wrongly branding well individuals with incorrect diagnosis. This is a serious claim but again you have not provided a shred evidence to prove this
drpiddleton 3 months ago
@britishflagbearer This is an altogether different issue. I'm defending psychiatry, not individual practitioners - for a psychiatrist to do what you are claiming is bad practice but you can find examples of bad practice in all medical or surgical specialties, which is unfortunate but it doesn't bring the old field into disrepute. I can think of plastic surgeons who performed unnecessary operations on vulnerable individuals (eg michael Jackson) but you wouldn't label all plastic surgeons as bei
drpiddleton 3 months ago
@drpiddleton You are an evil person defending the evil power of especially "forensic" psychiatry (acting for the courts) which can be abused against well people. The evil duo of shrinks and wigs refuse to guaranteed the inviolability of the person against unwanted psychiatric measures.
The alternative legal regime achieved by reform or revolution would ban the profession of psychiatry, as abortion is banned in some countries, requiring those who really wanted this abuse to go abroad for it.
ScottishRepublican 3 months ago
Look on YouTube for schizophrenia Heather. We don't see these kind of cases these days because of the improvements made to anti psychotics. So if you are against drugs what would be your solution to help somebody like her? Talk her out of it? Do nothing?
drpiddleton 3 months ago
@drpiddleton The issue is not what medical science can't do now to fix badly brain-damaged individuals you point to, the issue is anti-science quackery must be prevented from doing brain damage to perfectly well people against their will.
No sick person gives anyone the right to damage healthy others who are fine right up until the point that your psychiatric friends start injecting them with drugs or zapping them with electricity against their will.
We insist on informed consent OR ELSE!
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
You call yourself s scientist and that is the best proof that you can provide? I don't take these drugs because I am not depressed or psychotic but if I was having hallucinations or scary delusions then i wouldn't object to taking anti psychotics. I can you that I know of mental health nurses and even one psychiatrist who took anti depressants.
drpiddleton 3 months ago
@drpiddleton Yes but if a psychiatrist said "diagnosed" you as "depressed" or "psychotic", right now, as you are, not depressed, not psychotic, but a psychiatrist said,
"No you ARE depressed / psychotic Dr Piddleton, I, the psychiatrist know best, and your own view is overruled. I say you are to be forced to take these "anti-depressants/anti-psychotics"
and then the psychiatric nurses held you down in a secure ward and drugged you against your will.
Imagine being abused like that.
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
@drpiddleton I am scientist and a political activist and the political activist in me can imagine me or other political activists being forcibly drugged against our will.
You find it difficult to imagine yourself or a sane person in the shoes of someone being forcibly "medicated" in a way which damages their brain.
Psychiatrists should be stopped and doctors who support shrinks must be struck off the medical register because you are sworn to "DO NO HARM" yet violate the Hippocratic oath.
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
@drpiddleton What if you weren't having hallucinations or scary delusions but a psychiatrist said you were? The shrink insisted that your view was delusional, insisted that you were delusional if you thought for one minute that a qualified psychiatrist could make a mistake about your views, that it was delusional to imagine that people were trying to damage your brain and the one sure way to stop you thinking delusional thoughts like that was to drug you up and make you apathetic?
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
@britishflagbearer my logic is based on the thousands of people every year who seek help from the mental health services and are successfully treated. These drugs are not harmful to the brain. Psychiatrists are not robbing people of their intelligence or creativity, if anything it is the illnesses themselves that damages cognition.
drpiddleton 3 months ago
@drpiddleton The issue is the thousands who are not allowed to refuse "treatment".
The drugs are harmful to the brain and the proof of that is that you do not take them, nor do your psychiatrist friends, because none of you want your mental faculties ruined. If you were to be forced fed or forcibly injected with those drugs you would see that as an violation, poisoning and assault of yourself - or at least you would before the drugs kicked in and made you apathetic about everything.
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
All the psychiatrists I know hate using drugs and only keep ECT as a last resort. So again tell me what would you so with a severe patient who is going through an acute phase of psychosis and is threatening to kill themselves? I doubt you have an answer or if you even care. Your thing is to just attack the very people do care and are able to do something.
drpiddleton 3 months ago
@drpiddleton Psychiatrists hate using drugs? And rapists hate raping women? And Nazis hate exterminating Jews?
The issue is that many victims of psychiatrists (only "patients" in the perverted view of the shrinks) have their hatred of being forcibly sectioned, drugged or ECTed overruled by psychiatrists.
There should be no more legal or political cover for psychiatrists who must be arrested and jailed.
As for someone who is going to kill themselves - straight-jacket & padded room.
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
@drpiddleton What makes you most disgusting as a human being is that you turn a blind eye to the people who are perfectly well, not ill, but who are sectioned, drugged, and have their brains destroyed because their viewpoints are politically or legally inconvenient.
Decent people need defending from evil vermin like you who are apologists for an arbitrary brain-killing profession. If you are a doctor you should be struck off.
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
@drpiddleton Your logic is that one successful outcome - a person stopped from committing suicide by a psychiatrist's drugs excuses the routine abuse. You save one life so you think that gives you the right to destroy many other healthy brains of scientists, engineers, artists, musicians, writers, workers - every manner of good working brain - you reserve the right to decide if that brain must have its creativity destroyed and reduced to drooling idiot who is no match for your evil wits.
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
@drpiddleton You dare to say you care? When you would allow psychiatrists to drug people so that they no longer cared about themselves, their family, their work.
A caring person, a political activist who takes a stand and annoys the powers that be who have him arrested - you want psychiatrists to be allowed to eliminate that caring brain.
You are the enemy of anyone who cares. You are evil dressed up as caring - a wolf in sheep's clothing. You deserve the fate of the wolf sir. BANG! BANG!
BritishFlagBearer 3 months ago
@Ghostwrangler64 you have avoided my questions, which is not surprising. It is typical of people on here, you make these exaggerated claims and when somebody tries to challenge your beliefs you can't come up with any logical or even remotely satisfactory responses so you continue with your ramblings against psychiatry.
drpiddleton 3 months ago
Question: What do you do when religion ( the first social control) doesn't work on everybody? Answer is you find a replacement aka psychology. Psychology was picked up as a means of social control and nothing more. If certain people with real control and power didn't they think they could use psychology then this so call profession would be no more respected than a witch doctor in today's society. Truth hurts but lets move on from here.
grownman455 3 months ago
they diagnose every single person they possibly can...it doesnt come out of their pocket..it comes out of the patient's pocket...so if they don't diagnose somoene as insane then that is one less person that has to pay for treatment...so they TRY to diagnose AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE irregardless of sanity or insanity
pharmacies make a killing...and hospitals make a killing charging insurers for treatments that cost nothing but are billed for thousands
human0un 4 months ago
Besides all of our medicine involves experimentation. Do you think that a cardiologist KNOWS what will happen to his patient if he prescribes drug X. No. But his experience and education tells him that it is unlikely that his patient will experience an adverse reaction to the drug and on balance prescribing the medication is more likely to do good than harm. Psychiatrists work the same way. The difference is, they don't know why or how their drugs work, only that they do work.
drpiddleton 4 months ago
Like our RTA patient some mental health patients lack capacity to make these important decisions for themselves. How you going to get informed consent from someone who can barely make sense of reality. I knew somebody who put a screwdriver through his neck because he wanted to let the voices out of his body, which he believed were paranormal in origin. he was sectioned and given anti psychotics - now he is living a relatively normal life.
drpiddleton 4 months ago
And you say that informed consent should be obtained prior to treatment. I agree but there circumstances when this is simply not possible. For instance a road accident victim who arrives to A+E unconscious state? Do you need his permission before you can give life saving surgery? No you work in his best interest by operating on the assumption that if he still had capacity to make decisions this is what he would have wanted for himself.
drpiddleton 4 months ago
some of these drugs can be.
drpiddleton 4 months ago
How much experience do you have with the psychiatric services? Have you been on a mental health ward and see what goes on? What is your solution when a schizophrenic patient presents in casualty following an overdose because he believes that the CIA are planning to murder him in the next month? Or what about a mother who is hearing voices telling her to kill her seven year old son? The only solution is anti psychotics. I am not a psychiatrist, but have seen first hand how effective some of th
drpiddleton 4 months ago
.. and I wish scientologists do the same rather than be so fixated on making these rash claims. In medicine and surgery we base our decision making on the data collected from multiple scientific trials and psychiatrists do the same in their practice.
drpiddleton 4 months ago
@drpiddleton It is an outrage to decent people that individuals are compelled to be treated like guinea pigs in some grotesque experimental trial to see exactly how much a person's health is ruined by the psychiatrist's trial imposing a drug poison or brain electrocution or surgery on an unwilling person.
Informed consent for any trial or treatment should be a legal requirement but certainly already is a political requirement.
People are not guineas pigs. We fight back.
BritishFlagBearer 4 months ago
@drpiddleton die psychaitrist! very soon u all will be gone
isometric85 4 months ago
@drpiddleton, you wish! your "scientific trials" are mere anecdotes with built in biases to give you the results you want.
ghostwrangler64 3 months ago
Psychiatrist are the contemporary version of witch doctors, only more evil like Dr. Frankensteins, using vulnerable people for drug experiments, insurance fraud, and electro-shock experiments. A person with a mental illness might as well be a lab rat with no human rights.
ghostwrangler64 3 months ago
As a practicing physician I can tell you from first hand experience that a specialty which completely follows scientific principles simply doesn't exist. We all rely at different degrees our on basic clinical intuition. Medicine is a science and an art. We do however follow evidence base medicine
drpiddleton 4 months ago
Psychiatry supports the pharmaceutical industry via SSRI's, Benzodiazepines...etc. Cardiology does it with Beta Blockers, Calcium Channel Blockers, Inotropes... etc. .. and so on. Psychology, on the other hand, blames the individual for society's problems. It's part of a compartmentalized attack on individuals being fueled by a fiats. Take care of your body, don't be afraid of death, live within your means and the corrupt system comes tumbling down. Simple really.
UnitedCorpOfAmerica 4 months ago
R.D.Laing (I knew him) came from a disturbed, dysfunctional background was himself disturbed & dysfunctional with serious alcohol, drug & bipolar issues.
Psychiatrists are no different from the rest of humanity in that they too can suffer mental illness. Indeed there are some people who are attracted to mental health studies & occupations because of their own personal issues.
Like the rest of medicine, Psychiatry is not an exact science & can be misused, but generally does more good than harm.
freeman8128 4 months ago
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Psychiatry was developed before 1900 in Germany to get rid of people complaining.First use of directed energy weapons can be seen in psychiatric literature from 1908, see Psychiatrie->Zur Klinik der Narkolepsie on my homepage.After murdering oponents in ww2,Psychiatry was relaunched in´45 to persecute+silence concentration camp survivors.
As a Doctor in a German nuthouse said:
Half the inmates are mad.The other half are secret service agents on training.
Dubbed correctly, they are snitchers.
wwwtotalitaerde 4 months ago
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I was diagnosed as being clinically depressed and remained in this diagnoses for 6 years. On July 17th 1999 @ 10:30am I was converted. The lifting of that black and stormy cloud was immediate. Later I studied to discover the cause and the cure. Rmns 2:9 ''Tribulation and distress upon every soul of humanity that worketh evil''. When my sin was forgiven the wrath of Elohim was lifted along with the attendant tribulation and distress.
Every blessing, H.
aTruster 4 months ago
Oscar A, a member of the Brescia org. He was , a follower of Brescia org, a mentally unstable person who turned to Scientology looking for help. He realised that the “therapy” was bogus and tried to leave but was persecuted with telephone calls, psychological threats etc., and he became much worse than he had been before and finally hanged himself on 21 September 1987.
jnycnuk 4 months ago
Francois X, who killed himself mid-July 1991 aged 30 having spent 80,000 FF on auditing and the Purification rundown without gaining anything of value. Still hounded by the cult he killed himself, leaving a note in which he imagined the happiness he could have had ‘had the church of Scientology not existed.”
jnycnuk 4 months ago
There are two things to consider: Time and Intensity. Jim Jones was intense and took 900 people all at once. CoS has taken people over time. No one knows the actual number of people CoS has killed or driven to suicide because CoS works over time as opposed to a single intense event. The mere fact that CoS is associated with death and suicide is alone sufficient to brand it as a dangerous cult. J. Swift, OCMB, 20 November 2010
jnycnuk 4 months ago
you created this beasly science and i suffered greatly within the walls of these hell's. A prison built specifically for me. A place that you use to break me now I tell you with the loudest of all roars RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! dont play with me. cuase you will soon be walking in the shoes of a tortured soul under the care of such a system.
mingacorre 5 months ago
Fuck all you Scientologists. I tried it. Pure bullshit. Without psychiatry, I would probably be dead today. If you disagree, I don't give a shit. You only KNOW what God... I mean LRH and Davie miscavige tells you to know. You're a bunch a pathetic brainwashed, non-thinking assholes.
hypothetic7 5 months ago
Enough with the scientology nonsense. everyone knows scientology is weird but that does not mean they are wrong on psychiatry. why don't you people look into the history of psychiatry. one fuck up after another. Insulin coma therapy, ECT, lobotomy. Now they lobotomize people with SSRI'S, Xanax, and Seroquel. They were also very close to the eugenics movement helping legitimize it with the biological theory of mental illness. These people are psychotic.
scottyb453 5 months ago 10
@scottyb453 Wise words from one so young. We need you in the For Freedom Forums -
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BritishFlagBearer 5 months ago
@scottyb453 Your right, Scientology brainwashed alien ideas make less sense then conspiracy theories, it is a cult , it was all a deception and a psychological operation to manipulate people, I am a thud, I was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and also out within 2 months and I never went back, it transcends racial boundaries, I lived my life and became successful I live independent form my parents and I am a university student taking a break from school. Pseudo-Science nazi Eugenics=origin
MeatstickRob88 3 months ago
@scottyb453 History of Science is pretty fucked up, but thanks to it, today we're able to live healthy. But of course there are some cases that are really fucked up, but that doesn't mean psychiatry is a crap science. It's like saying water is bad for your body "because it takes away you inner fluids" come on.
JohnnyJohnW 3 months ago
@JohnnyJohnW Psychiatry is the furthest thing from science there is. Anyone who looks at the evidence would realize that their pills don't work and cause brain damage. This is pretty apparent if you read the long term outcome literature but they nevertheless keep prescribing these drugs. This spits in the face of evidence/science based medicine. 11% of Americans are on SSRI's for gods sake. Psychiatry in America isn't medicine, they are big pharma's drug dealers.
scottyb453 3 months ago
@scottyb453 Fuckkashjjas, you're right, some psychiatrists medicate you on the first session without even asking for diagnostic exams.
JohnnyJohnW 3 months ago
psychiatry is not a fake science...its just an evolving one.
we get better at it with upgrades in technology....the brain is the least understood organ in the human body. psychiatry is the science of trying to understand its biological functions....so how is that fake? is it not more truthful to state that a lot of doctors are just crap at their job?
freedomchaser2402 5 months ago
@freedomchaser2402 Psychiatrists are quacks who are defrauding the public yet trusted by the state to deprive people of their freedom and wreck their lives. It is a great evil of our age. It is not science.
I have sent you another video " Psychiatry Is A Mental Disorder" watch?v=bPOrD6xfDNo
BritishFlagBearer 5 months ago
@BritishFlagBearer i do agree with you to a certain extent. i do believe the science of psychiatry is nowhere near enough evovled for any psychiatrist to make a diagnosis. we dont understand the brain enough yet.
every psychiatrist i have ever seen have conflicting ideas about my own mind (and i know my mind better than anyone else on this planet- so realistically, im the only one, qualified enough through my own experiences to have any idea what is going on in my head)
freedomchaser2402 5 months ago
@BritishFlagBearer i also see the same conflicts within GP's where their own individuality and learned mental constraints brings them to a point where they seldomly agree with eachother on the best way to deal with illnessess. they almost killed my gran after she had a heart attack by taking her off warfarin and to quote the doc that took her off it "the body can be quite good at healing its self"...my grans entire left ventricle is dead and she has an aortic aneurism.
freedomchaser2402 5 months ago
@BritishFlagBearer when she 1st had the heart attack, her GP told her to take more lansoprozole as he told her it was just indigestion. so i have no faith in any of the medical professionals....doctors or psychiatrists. cause i get the feeling they dont quite know what theyre doing...they dont seem to work by logic but by text books. i have faith in science as science is about discovery. but people in the medical profession are no longer scientist (or healers) it is now sadly all about money
freedomchaser2402 5 months ago
fact is that psychiatry is fuelled by pharmaceutical companies to make huge profits
hari1408 6 months ago
i had a childhood friend who i knew for a long time.he moved away one day, and couple years lator i met him again,but this time he was put on pychiatric medication like on 2 or 3 different ones,he wasnt the same.he seemed lifeless and boring, pyschiatry is fake unproven science, i hate hate hate psychiatry ......its scam , it dumbs you down and sucks the life out of you dont forget to take your medications you sheep!!
it just makes me so angry to realize what mindless animals people are..
maryjaydro 6 months ago
The methods available to psychology aren't as advanced as those available in the diagnosis of other illnesses in the medical profession. I can go to a doctor and claim that I have all the symptoms of diabetes, and I can take a test and definitively prove that I do not have diabetes.
But with psychology, the only method available is based on the testimony of the patient. So it is no surprise that a false diagnosis may be brought about through lying or impersonation.
AndrewLLFrazier 6 months ago
@AndrewLLFrazier This does not mean psychology as a profession is fake. There are many clear demonstrations that validate psychiatry (and psychology) as a science, these are better known as case studies. Cases in which the dysfunction is so evident that it should leave no doubt that conditions like schizophrenia or bi polar are very real conditions.
AndrewLLFrazier 6 months ago
@AndrewLLFrazier There are also other studies which should leave little doubt in the validation of psychiatry as a science, such as the story of the discovery in 1969 of L-Dopa use in the treatment of of patients afflicted with Encephalitis Lethagica - a disease which caused patients to be permanently catatonic. After administering large amounts of dopamine, they awoke, at first they were normal, but after a period, they became paranoid schizophenic.
AndrewLLFrazier 6 months ago
@AndrewLLFrazier this is what formed the basis of the dopamine hypothesis - that the conditions and behaviors of schizophrenia occurred due to an imbalance of dopamine in the brain. There have been many studies showing the relation between schizophrenia and dopamine in the brain.
AndrewLLFrazier 6 months ago
@AndrewLLFrazier The story about Encephalitis Lethargica is probably one of the most interesting stories in medical history, after decades of being catatonic these patients awoke! Then slowly lost their minds and eventually were taken off the drug, only to live the rest of their lives in a catatonic state.
The story was made into a movie starring Robert Deniro and Robin Williams. If you want to see it the movie, it goes by the name "Awakenings".
AndrewLLFrazier 6 months ago
My friend was diagnosed with Pschizofrenia about 10 years ago just because he was hallusinating from Shrooms.
Today his family is poor because of all the medication the law and the hospital forced the family to buy for my friend.
He now has to get a shot of antipsychotic medication once a month. I think its bullshit and i think it is that drug that makes him crazyer.
I want to help him get out of that ... what should i do ?
apapap187 7 months ago
@apapap187 He'll be addicted to the anti-psychotic by now so coming off it won't be easy.
If he misses his routine injection altogether then he could get massive withdrawal symptoms from going "cold turkey" and may need to be put in a straight-jacket and padded room for as many weeks as it takes for him to get better.
Even if he agreed to endure that and came off the drug the courts may not recognise that and may order him arrested and injected and then he'd be back to square one.
BritishFlagBearer 7 months ago
@apapap187 Perhaps a better plan is to get agreement from his doctor and lawyer to follow a plan of weaning him off the drug, taking less and less each time until eventually he is off it altogether.
BritishFlagBearer 7 months ago
@apapap187 schizophrenia is real. I have suffered from it for 10 years. about 2 years ago I stopped being able to concentrate. It became hard to remember simple things. You can see the disease progress in my school notes. The science of psychiatry is still in its infancy. In my case (especially) there is little psychiatrists can do to treat my illness.
Anti-psychotics can help with delusions and hallucinations - but in my case it didn't make my quality of life improve.
AndrewLLFrazier 6 months ago
@AndrewLLFrazier Bullshit.
apapap187 6 months ago
How could science determine if consciousness has positive or negative attributes when science is unsure as to whether or not consciousness even truly exists? Claiming that one's eternal void possesses flawed attributes is false logic. First know what is consciousness and then make judgements about what is going on. If there is nothing actually going on, then no judgement need be made. What is there to judge in pure void? If there is something going on, then all are eternally ignorant.
PrimeConsciousness 7 months ago
how is this proving that psychiatry is a scam? you shouldn't screw around with doctors. If im in a good shape & go to a Doc and tell him i have stomach pain he'll give me painkillers. IT IS WHAT THEY DO. it's not some game to fuck with. I agree they should do more tests and what not but science is not THAT developped! You can't see depresseion or suicidal thoughts in a brain scan. They are only here to HELP us, this is not a conspiracy, grow up :/
running90away 7 months ago
WOW! I have meet with shrinks. Everyone one of them are nothing but kind, understanding and are motivated by the reward of helping other. And the people who think they are a bunch of crocks are very hostile, angry people. Who post things about pointing a gun to their head. Get some self respect and think of other first. Instead of blaming everyone for troubles in your life. Find ways to correct it yourself. Or move on. Just keep in mind that someone will always have it worse than you. Take care
noble04matthew 7 months ago
AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE
LoveVanillaRose 8 months ago
@LoveVanillaRose Audrey, you comment reads as spam and says nothing about the video. I nearly just deleted it, blocked you and forgot you. Luckily, I checked out your channel before I did.
I was surprised and delighted to see on your channel that in fact you do take an interest in these matters and indeed your channel page features a great video titled "Psychiatry Is A Mental Disorder"
watch?v=bPOrD6xfDNo
although it would be better named - "Psychiatry: An Industry of Death. (An intro)".
BritishFlagBearer 8 months ago
@LoveVanillaRose Therefore Audrey, because I want you to be an effective campaigner, I strongly advise you in future comments on other videos to post a comment more along the lines of my earlier comment but by all means add your own touch at the end thus -
A great video titled "Psychiatry Is A Mental Disorder"
watch?v=bPOrD6xfDNo
although it would be better named - "Psychiatry: An Industry of Death. (An intro)".
AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET US FREE
BritishFlagBearer 8 months ago
@LoveVanillaRose Or rather your channel used to feature the ""Psychiatry Is A Mental Disorder" video because I see you have changed your featured video already. Gosh you are a busy lady.
BritishFlagBearer 8 months ago
Scary
USZgxc151orbital 8 months ago
Psychiatrists are Goons, In an Ideal world it would be better Punch them in the head,
round up and shot, then heaped in a pile to be burned before they can cause anymore stink.
ForeverResplendent 8 months ago
@ForeverResplendent I tried to send you a message to invite you to the For Freedom Forums for robust political debate, inspired by Scots,open to all. "FIGH. TK"
But YouTube told me -
"User foreverresplendent has enabled friend lock. You will not be able to send messages to them unless they add you as a friend."
BritishFlagBearer 8 months ago
@ForeverResplendent I nearly did punch my psychiatrist in the head, as he was demeaning me
a930601ndy 6 months ago
there truly is no-one sicker than the pDocs who diagnosed these to be insane.
sure the test subjects lied. they told ONE lie, and they were kept in psyche wards for months for this? What kind of lies were all the pDocs telling themselves to justify what THEY had done?
Truly, just how delusional are these pDocs? Their charade lasted for hours that stretched into days and weeks and months.
The test subjects charade was ONE simple lie. pDocs see only what they want to see. they are delusional.
briansmutti 8 months ago
@briansmutti From my experience pdocs are pretty delusional. To think that removing parts of people's brains is going to help them, you have have to be living in another reality. Being a psychiatrist is a test case in cognitive dissonance.
scottyb453 8 months ago
The Thud Experiment is ridiculous.. Faking a psychotic disorder is the same as faking any medical disorder... If I were to drink a quart of blood and, concealing what I had done, come to the emergency room of any hospital vomiting blood, the behavior of the staff would be quite predictable. If they labeled and treated me as having a bleeding peptic ulcer, I doubt that I could argue convincingly that medical science does not know how to diagnose that condition....
DJCrabCake 8 months ago
@DJCrabCake Saying you can hear the word "THUD" is not "faking a psychotic disorder" it is simply saying something.
It is the only quack-medicine of psychiatry which interprets spoken words as a non-existing medical disorder exposing just how meaningless the quack-diagnosis is.
Also imprisoning someone and forcing drugs etc. into them damaging their brain does not qualify as "treatment".
This bunch of quacks is a NOT a valid medical profession. Replace their white coats with handcuffs!
BritishFlagBearer 8 months ago 2
@thesentinelonline "Psychiatry" is a recent addition to the med. specialties. Laing wrote of his mentor Joe Schorstein that he thought any psychiatr. that wasn't a competent neurologist was pretty much useless. (Schorstein had been a British Army neurosurgeon in N. Africa, during WWII.) Laing also wrote that he went into psychiatry because he lacked the math skills to specialize in embryology.
CocteauDalighari 9 months ago
L Ron Hubbard was given Vistaril® by Dr. Gene Denk in his final days, by intramuscular injection in the right buttocks. Vistaril® is a psychiatric drug, used to calm frantic or overly anxious patients. He died on January 24th, 1986, eight days after the fatal stroke, and one day after signing his last will and testament. He died in a 1982 Blue Bird motor home, about five miles East of Creston, CA, at the very remote "Emanuel Camp". His fingernails and toenails were long and unkempt.
crowley611 10 months ago
I'ed tell you a story about Bedlam Hospital patients stealing the identitys of the doctors, but now they're all in the NHS writing up fake medical conditions to make paedos look like Jesus, I'ed rather not bother!
KaOssis 10 months ago
Also in the United States schools are very motivated to "find" mental patients because our government pays more for a mentally ill student. I have heard that a lot of children are being labeled mentally ill simply because it pays more. The school will tell the parents that if they don't medicate their children they can't attend school. For more info you can go to ablechild org.
melody4truth 11 months ago 2
In today Germany systematic maltreatment of children is organized by the state and executed by snitchers.The psychiatric literature holds many reports of jewish children having been persecuted in exactly this way.Since WW2 psychiatry was regularly misused by Germany to discredit and persecute the NAZI victims.Germany pretended to pay compensation to get the former victims into the hand of shrinks certifying them being mental cases due to persecution.Sometimes they even got some 100$ compensation
wwwtotalitaerde 11 months ago
Did we forget about the fMRI and other methods to measure brain activity and how that could maybe lead to proper diagnosis of mental disorders? Is Broca's Aphasia fake? Don't think so. Brain chemical problems cannot be faked. Overt behavior can.
MrMcJansen 11 months ago
I have been diagnosed with different diagnosis by every psychiatrist I have seen.
The most absurd was that I was retarded. If that was the case, I do not know how I graduated valedictorian from college.
The worst was schizophrenic. They gave me risperdal which caused a stroke and ruined my life. Thanks Psychiatry - You make satanists look like girl-scouts.
BeavisNacho 1 year ago
@BeavisNacho you can thank yourself for giving them those symptoms.
1234blahluv 11 months ago
@1234blahluv Could you rephrase the insult, I seriously cannot undestand what you are trying to say.
I know you are trying to be a troll. But sorry, you failed.
BeavisNacho 11 months ago
They should come out with a diagnosis called AZD - Apathetic Zombie Disorder. It's signs and symptoms are watching too much TV, eating GMO foods, drinking water with fluoride, and taking their yearly flu vaccine. In addition, it is characterized by having no regard that they are being led to the slaughter by their elected officials and the elite whom promise to protect their freedom while creating more laws to take them away.
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emerson24 1 year ago
David Rosenhan is one of the leaders of the anti psychiatry movement and he IS a licensed pactricing psychologist. His experiment is studied in a lot of psychology programs.
MsJeka87 1 year ago 3
In today Germany systematic maltreatment of children is organized by the state and executed by snitchers.The psychiatric literature holds many reports of jewish children having been persecuted in exactly this way.Since WW2 psychiatry was regularly misused by Germany to discredit and persecute the NAZI victims.Germany pretended to pay compensation to get the former victims into the hand of shrinks certifying them being mental cases due to persecution.Sometimes they even got some 100$ compensation
wwwtotalitaerde 1 year ago
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melody4truth 11 months ago
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As a Psychiatrist of 36 years, my field has been attacked. Why not attack other industries. I am making this plain and simple. I am a MD I graduated UCLA. I have successfully along with my many colleagues treated many disorders. STOP I REPEAT STOP PLEASE STOP ABUSING THESE WONDERFULL DRUGS WE PERSCRIBE. And HOW DARE YOU! I AM A HONEST MAN AND I
DO TEST WHEN NEEDED. I will medicate you, your children and you entire family if needed! stop the rubbish!
benmdnp755 1 year ago
@benmdnp755 Your threat to "medicate" us all makes me think your comment is intended to be satirical. I didn't laugh because my fear and hatred of modern psychiatry runs too deep. No doubt you have a drug for that?
Psychiatrists should beware that we the people have got some guns pointed at "you" psychiatrists. It is like a game of rock, paper, scissors. Guns beats drugs.
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago 15
@BritishFlagBearer Psychiatrists have studied for over a decade to become licensed. I take their scientific word and expertise over a youtube video. Then again, you clearly have a hidden reason why you have an unfounded hate for psychiatry. (possibly scientologist, etc)
BroGuyDude 1 year ago
@BroGuyDude I am the scientist here and on the day when I was held in prison and a psychiatrist who did not have the biology science qualification I had, had the cheek to tell me she was recommending I be remanded to a psychiatric hospital for examination, I developed a reasoned hatred of that woman and her profession I had long distrusted.
I am not a scientologist.
I wrote about my experiences on my web-page "Arrogant and tyrannical judges
Beware of perverted judges and psychiatrists".
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago 8
@BritishFlagBearer
That lady you talk about has a undergraduate degree (most often in biological science), medical degree and four year psychiatric residency training. And all these are minimum requirements in the US to become a psychiatrist.
Now I don't understand how your are more qualified than her.
plus you are in prison, your judgment is already impaired.
neurozero 1 year ago
@neurozero Well I had a A-band-1 pass in Higher biology (good enough for entrance to study for a biology degree at university) which she told me she didn't have. I have a university bachelor of science degree in computer science.
We are not in the US but Britain (clue my channel name) and yes she has a qualification for this field according to one university here but in her forensic assessment to the court she gave no reason for her recommendation and it was rejected and I was released.
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago
@BritishFlagBearer Right On !! Victory against the fraudulent !!!
BeavisNacho 1 year ago
@BeavisNacho Thank you. However, if I try to send you a message, I get
"User beavisnacho has enabled friend lock. You will not be able to send messages to them unless they add you as a friend."
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago
@neurozero I was in prison but the judge who ordered me there was at fault. According to you there is never an innocent man with good judgement locked up in prison, and Nelson Mandela who was locked up in prison in South Africa for 27 years for opposing apartheid had "impaired judgment"?
Perhaps because I am now blocking user you from this channel, this means your judgement is already impaired?
As an ignorant prejudiced fool she and you have the usual qualifications to be a psychiatrist.
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago
@neurozero How does studying a work of fiction for four years make a psychiatrist more qualified than a palm reader ?? How is it that being in prison impairs judgement?
BeavisNacho 1 year ago
@BroGuyDude . Honestly. How woul you describe or define an expert? By the length of time he/she has studied or by the results he/she is producing, and in this case healthy people and a healthier society. Don't you agree? So what are those respectable scientists actually doing? After all, the insanity statistics are soaring and crime statistics are on a wild climb. How does one account for that? People of today are simply better informed than they were years ago, and questions are being raised.
gunterra1 1 year ago
@BroGuyDude
Psychiatry is made for: power and money, there is no science, just marketing, you should face the truth!
TheAcousticSource 1 year ago 2
@BroGuyDude you have forgotten, psychiatry is not a science and there is nothing remotely scientific about it. It is at best a psuedo-science.
BeavisNacho 1 year ago
@benmdnp755 : I feel bad for the deep sense of shame you must feel when you are reminded of how you have spent your life.
klard 1 year ago
@benmdnp755 your field isn't the only one being attacked. Dr.s in general who prescribe non patented alternatives to drugs are often ridiculed. It seems you think drugs are a good solution. truth is most are just as temporary of a fix as street drugs. It sounds very unprofessional and quite scary for a psychiatrist to threaten someone with the medication they have access to. for the sake of your patients I hope you find yourself some help and alternative permanent solutions to cure them. peace
barnumeffect5 1 year ago
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@benmdnp755 Troll, you are clearly not a doctor due to your inability to spell.
nelsogg85 1 year ago
@benmdnp755 In Congress there's a man who has been gaining power, the Tea Party movement backs him. On his agenda is to CRIPPLE PSYCHIATRIC INFLUENCE here in USA. I certainly do believe he will succeed. We WILL see the day when all thoughtful people--including judges and legislators--say to "mental health professionals"--LEAVE US ALONE--CAN'T YOU SEE WE'RE BUSY? Funding for your toxic drugs will go to zero, you will be forbidden to vote, own land, have drivers license etc HAW FUCKING HAW.
skirts365 1 year ago
@benmdnp755 . Attack other industries. Not in this post. It is a bout this video.
Real "Honesty" and "Wonderfull drugs"? One cannot help but concluding that psychiatry is making insane people. Why? Read the news: "insanity statiscics are soaring, crime statistics are on a wild climb". Makes one wonder why that is. Isn't that your field of expertise? Not very impressive! Is it? How can you blame us for complaining?
gunterra1 1 year ago 5
@benmdnp755 you have fail my friend totally. You should be ashamed.
branwt 1 year ago 2
@benmdnp755 So, you are a psychiatrist for 36 years? Big deal. If I learned how to practice medicine from some clown who made it all up, but was smart enough to seem logical and make sense, it doesn't mean I'm smart or accurate just because I've learned 36 years of rubbish.
You are suppressing symptoms and having them be manifested elsewhere either physically or mentally. Perhaps you should learn the origin of your field and watch The Marketing of Madness - are we all insane?
emerson24 1 year ago
@benmdnp755
Nice try, but it's pretty obvious that you aren't an MD. Judging by your spelling and grammar I'd say you're still in high school (could be wrong though).
I also can't think of any trained professional in ANY field threatening someone with a form treatment within their field (this shows me that you already think of medication with negative connotations, which a real psychiatrist wouldn't). Once again, nice try. Hail Xenu! lol, jk.
JHDiddles12 1 year ago
@benmdnp755 Since you have been in the field for 36 years could you answer a couple of valid questions please. If there is objective scientific justification of mental disorders why: 1) Do psychiatrists still diagnose with opinion and not an objective laboratory test like physicians? & 2) Why aren't these "bio-chemically proven" disorders now a neurologist's problem like epilepsy is, since that was originally a psychiatric illness until he biological mechanism was found?
SimonIntense 1 year ago 2
@benmdnp755 It gets attacked because most of modern psychiatry can be traced back to eugenicist Nazi Germany.... the use of drugs within the field anyway.
SimonIntense 1 year ago 2
@benmdnp755
The fact that you just commented on a YouTube message board just made my question your validity as a psychiatrist, or, indeed, a medical practitioner
Cal6009 1 year ago 2
@benmdnp755 How is it you managed to become a Medical Doctor if you can't spell and your punctuation is horrible? And excuse me, but are you screaming at me? How professional! I have never seen a true MD respond to ANY video on YT. Maybe you're some kid who saw an afternoon special?
genmama1955 1 year ago 2
@benmdnp755 Yeah, your drugs are so "WONDERFUL(L)" that the risperdal I was presribed caused me to have a stroke. These neuroleptics bind to the neurons and impair all brain function. They also cause Tardrive Dyskinesia which is hell to live with. Your drugs have ruined my life and I think that Psychiatrist is the lowest job someone can have. You are the scum of the earth and profit off of lies and others misery. How about you take them yourself to prove they are safe. Take risperdal for a year!
BeavisNacho 1 year ago
The ideas expressed by the CCHR are so extreme, bizarre, irrational, illogical and ridiculous that it is impossible to take them (or Dianetics) seriously or reasonable in any way. For example, Hubbard (and the Church of Scientology) blames psychiatry for the rise of Hitler and Stalin, World War 2, the Holocaust, the attack on the Twin Towers of the World Trade Centre on 9/11, the Virginia Tech shootings, the war in Kosova and numerous other international tragedies.
OpenComments 1 year ago
@OpenComments I can see where the blame for the Virginia Tech shootings might be laid at the door of psychiatry - wasn't the shooter on psychiatrically prescribed medicine, and problems with that maybe sent him over the edge?
It is harder to imagine what the logic could be for blaming psychiatry for Hitler and Stalin. I read a story that a psychiatrist told Saddam Hussein to quit and he was killed by Hussein for his impudence - I presume Hitler and Stalin would have done the same?
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago
@BritishFlagBearer I don't know about Stalin, but Hitler had extensive psychiatric treatment before the Holocaust. The theory of eugenics was all the rage in psychiatry at that time, and Hitler used that to throw a veil of "science" over the genocidal rampage.
008firefly 6 months ago
@OpenComments Possibly the key passage in the video is this "Psychiatry, Laing said, was a fake science used as a system of political control to shore up a violent collapsing society. Its categories of madness and sanity had no reality. Madness was simply a convenient label used to lock away those who wanted to break free."
I'd have to agree that whenever I have tried to break free of the authority of professors, police or monarchy, I do get labelled as "mad" by those who respect them.
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago
@OpenComments You didn't understand this video. Perhaps too much noise in your head. Try again.
008firefly 6 months ago
@008firefly
Flunk, you failed to acknowledge Scientology abuses.
Start.
OpenComments 6 months ago
@OpenComments Yep, too much noise in your head. If you ever come to, try watching this video again and figuring out what it's about.
008firefly 6 months ago
@008firefly
Flunk for David Miscavige beating his staff. Start.
OpenComments 6 months ago
@OpenComments What psychiatric drug(s) are you on?
008firefly 6 months ago 3
@008firefly
Flunk for not acknowledging disconnected families in Scientology. Start.
OpenComments 6 months ago
@OpenComments You gotta be on psychiatric drugs to be so chronically non-sequitur and incoherent.
008firefly 6 months ago 2
@008firefly
Flunk for failing to acknowledge that, at OT III, you learn about the evil alien overlord Xenu blowing aliens up in volcanoes creating body thetans. Start.
OpenComments 6 months ago
In 1950, Hubbard originally created Dianetics to be an adjunct to psychiatry, and respected psychiatry as he sought psychiatric help himself several times. However, not surprisingly, Dianetics was rejected completely by the Psychiatric and Medical community and Hubbard took this rejection personally and became intensely bitter and paranoid towards Psychiatry. So, in 1969, he set up the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) to expose what he considered to be the evils of psychiatry.
OpenComments 1 year ago
@OpenComments Maybe so but this video makes its own independent criticism of psychiatry - that of Laing, Rosenhan and the thud experiment - that is the topic here.
Whilst you have knocked Hubbard, CCHR's criticism of psychiatry etc in your comment here you are not addressing the topic here and going off topic somewhat.
I have answered you in such a way as to try to bring you back "on topic" here. You are invited to post regarding Hubburd etc. in the For Freedom Forums.
BritishFlagBearer 1 year ago 2
@OpenComments From your comments it seems that Hubbard failed to create another "religion" :-P.
It in now way debunks this experiment which is by a total different person. This person will debunk Dianetics too
qwanraj 1 year ago
@OpenComments I think u'll find it was Thomas Szasz that set that up. Before Scientology were interested in psychiatry.
SimonIntense 1 year ago
Bipolar=unexpressed genius struggling to cope with a breed of lower intelligence all around them. How would you feel if you were a genius surrounded by babbling idiots? You would go crazy too.
carlmelanson1 1 year ago
@carlmelanson1 LOVE IT!!
HerrSpieldose 1 year ago
Are there some people who were lucky enough to benefit from psychiatry...? Seems like they are the minority. Anyways this is going to suck for the SAD, DPD, APD guys...But this is based on what I'm aware of which is lacking...and then there are kleptomaniac--I really do not understand it.
Now my aunt is thrown into the loony bin because she can't cope with being taken advantaged of by this douche bag who fled the scene with her entire savings. I don't know her well, but like to know what's up.
DrBCorwen 1 year ago
Psychiatry is a fake science? Just like claiming "my bipolar makes me violent". It's an excuse to misbehave.
dicktracy59 1 year ago
If you think these thugs are bad when they do things openly & officially, you're lucky to know nothing of what these products of their prostitute mother's intestine that didn't get flushed, do in combination with government agencies who have the ability to do things covertly & unofficially... away from legal & public scrutiny. That's when you can see their truest colors & you will rightly come to know that the world would greatly benefit if pieces of whore's shit, each got one between the eyes
Chuichupachichi 1 year ago