Mahler- Kindertotenlieder 1

[twainshallnevermeet]

What exactly are you talking about??? Mahler's daughter died at the age of 5!

[RadarKat73080]

Trust the Germans to write music about dead kids!

[opera1232010]

Great great moment!!

The orchestra and the singer are simply perfect on this brillant mahler inspiration moment.

Thanks for sharing

Pierre

[WBmusicify]

Doom metal of the 1900's. Beautifully presenting pain and agony of mankind's flaws unmatchably.

It's a shame that so few people can really understand something this sophisticated and unmatchably dark in it's truest sense.

[daviddebonomalta]

Someone studying for UofT HMU exam tomorrow was here. :)

[SirGlennGould]

That hall needs refurbishing

[jonjimusic]

Mahler was jewish. He converted to get gigs.

[romano444]

Primorosa interpretação.

[FENNYMAN]

Beautiful and heart-rending.

[Coerulocus]

He wrote it 1904. His wife said he would invite trouble by writing about dead children.

His doughter died three years later.

[trailblazingdiva]

Gorgeous! Devastating!

[xXTelethaXx]

rescuedude isn't really wrong. but i would prefer a soprano, cause it was written for it, and i think a "requiem for childs" should be sung by a woman.

[TenoreRobusto1347]

@xXTelethaXx I'm sorry to contradict you, but if you're referring to this piece being written for soprano, I'm afraid you're mistaken. It is written for low voice vocal soloist, and usually performed by baritone, but mezzo-sopranos also sing it. The poet, Ruckert, was writing to pour out his grief after losing two of his children within a week of one another. Mahler, after writing these songs, lost his daughter shortly after.

[TenoreRobusto1347]

@TenoreRobusto1347 So, I belive that he was writing from a father's point of view. Now, while I believe a woman can sing this song just as well, with just as much poinancy and power, it was not originally written for high voice singers. Any soprano or tenor who sang it would be singing a transposition.

[silverdog09]

Do you think Rückert would have been proud of this or would he have shuddered?

[RevolutionaryJam]

I can hardly think of a greater compliment than Mahler setting your lyrics to music

[tzeleustremlennost]

Southern people do not know severe struggle for existence in the cold countries, also ...long months of winter help for intensive study and reading.

Therefore Southerners are more sensual and cheerful, and northerners - are aggressive and fearless.

Wagner  - for heroic promptings, and southerners - too soft and... kind.

It is necessary to be able to hate the enemy ............very much for victory.

[aicos1424katsu]

quien diria que fuera la version modesta de la filarmonica del estado de México la que mas me gustara y la que estuviera completa...

tan depresivo Mahler...

con musica tan hermosa

[OlDoinyo]

This may not be quite the equal of Fischer-Dieskau's iconic recording, but Suaste gives a very connected performance here. He does sound under-miked at times, however; the sound balance could have been better.

[FriedBacon86]

Sends dark shivers down my spine, absolutely magnificent piece of art!

[xava5000]

just beautifull....

[ulp007]

mahler und mann sind unûbertragen

[latindrummer210]

mahler is a beast

[BoomRushThrill]

sonntags. this is sunday music.

[thebook55555]

the oboe jumps an octave by accident at 4:32

[pallbo]

You´re right. Oboe has jumped.

In jazz you have always the possibility to play your fault again and so it´s no fault anymore. But in classic...

[2oo8Autunno]

sanjosemike

When I hear this sad music and certain parts of Mahler's symphonies (especially 6th symphony etc.) it seems that this sensitive artist had a premonition of the disaster that would strike his people 30 years after his death! The terrible destiny of his niece Alma Rosé, daughter of his sister Justine. If Mahler had lived until 1940 or so, the Nazis would have deported him to Auschwitz, where his niece conducted the girl's orchestra which had to accompany the Jews to the gas-chambers!

[odin626]

His daughter died a year after finishing this piece, his wife pleaded for him to not finish this piece for fear of it coming true.

[Geierberzn]

sanjosemike

Sorry but I think your comment is quite strange. Why do some people, mostly out of Anglo-Saxon countries always refer to the Holocaust when it`s about German/Austrian composers or writers.

Rückert created the poems of the Kindertotenlieder in the 1830`s. And Mahler composed his lieder from 1901 to 1904. The Nazi reign was from 1933 to 1945!

[nokturnpianist]

@Geierberzn Anyways, Mahler was Jewish.

[Geierberzn]

@nokturnpianist

His nationality was Austrian or German-Austrian, Judaism was his religion.

this is from wiki:

"As a composer, he acted as a bridge between the 19th century Austro-German tradition and the modernism of the early 20th century."

[madraven07]

@Geierberzn It's because they lack any understanding of history other than what they've learned from popular cultural. They are ignorant. They probably have no idea Mexico is anything but sombreros and beaches.

[njd0858]

@madraven07 I'm sorry that many Anglo-Saxons are ignorant and racist, but I hope you aren't labeling all Anglo-Saxon's with your comment. That would be equally ignorant and racist.

[ichhabschluckauf]

"Germans will never live past their history"

It is very sad you feel this way. I don't think any normal person can deny what happened during the war and especially to the Jewish people. But to say that Germany as a country has not changed since and even more the German people is simply wrong and misleading.

[ETsEvilTwin]

And pure ignorance and prejudice...perhaps s/he should examine his/her people's past...I'm sure there are skeletons in that particular closet too...as there are in my own nation's (Britain).

[Canaustrians]

Did you know that Canada had Concentration camps during World War 2? They interned Japanes-Canadians.

[xXTelethaXx]

yeah you're absolutly right. My personal thoughts to such a prejudice to all romantic german music or composer is only one thing. such a person who haves such thoughts is rather pathetic in my eyes. Guys, enjoy this piece without such a crap thinking ^^

[bouzignac]

@ichhabschluckauf

Mahler was not German but Moravian and Jew !

This song is about the death of 2 of his little daughters.

The words are amazing !

[TenoreRobusto1347]

@bouzignac Mahler was born in eastern Bohemia, but since both Moravia and Bohemia were part of the Austrio-Hungarian Empire at this time, it would still be fair to say he was of Austrian nationality.

Also, the poetry was written by Ruckert in 1833 and 34, in reaction to the loss of his two youngest children, Luise and Ernst, to Scarlet Fever. This song cycle, however, was written by Mahler between 1901 and 1904. He started before his children were born and finished before his daughter died.

[2oo8Autunno]

It is interesting that the last sentence of the 1st song is a gleam of hope, almost glory:

"Heil sei dem Freudenlicht der Welt!"

(Greetings to the joyous light of the world!)

Deryck Cooke (who "reconstructed" Mahler's 10th symphony) translated: "Hail to the whole world's gladdening light!" The musical theme of this last sentence you find in the funeral march at the beginning of the 5th symphony, which was played at the funeral of Yuri Gagarin, the Soviet astronaut.

[AngieOnly]

Wunderbar.

[mauricedelacroix]

Fantástica interpretação! Suaste, assim como Thamas Hampson, pode se considerar um excelente cantante.

Parabéns Suaste,

Parabéns México.

[bigsnzdawg]

im getting Nun will die sonn so Hell Aufgeh'n tattood on my back.. huge

[DieSonneSinkt]

I see you love Mahler and Rückert, but that's crazy.

[asdewq80]

I also love Mahler's "Kindertotenlieder" (as well as his other work), but that's a bit over the top, I think.

If you do so it must be "Nun will die Sonn' so hell aufgeh'n", your capitalization is wrong.

[chaoticpenguin03]

what a nice little lied...about dead children.

[Ringo84]

I'm familiar with this through M*A*S*H. Charles Winchester liked to listen to it after marathon surgery sessions.

[toritorevento]

Amigo es mi imaginacion??

o es la OSEM??

bueno en fin me encanta como tocan en la OSEM

[2oo8Autunno]

Si, es la OSEM, Orquesta Sinfónica del Estado de México.

Que encantamiento!

[frankfurtlounge]

Mahler is alive.

[noitcerruser]

Mahler is my favorite..(And "IN MY OPINION" he is the BEST) Go go Mahler!!

[Drem0raL0rd]

Go go Mahler? That's a terrible thing to say ..

[2oo8Autunno]

noitcerruser:

Yes, Mahler IS the best!

You must hear his music in the concert hall. The difference of listening the same symphony of Mahler from Radio or CD and listening in the concert hall "live" is incredibly considerable. It is like the difference of seeing a film in black and white or in colours!

[ArturoAlejandroS]

I don't like Kindertotenlieder.

Maybe the one thing that I don't like of Mahler.

[raelyz]

Mexicano... viva México y sus grandes cantantes.

[pitabread79]

songs on the death of children

a wonderful piece

[ZivkoC]

awesome performance!

5 stars from me :)

my favourite sport is from 3:53-4:12

[divadivo84]

#1 is probably my favorite out of all of them.. This performance is excellent. I argue the fact that many think it should be sung by a female...this sounds beautiful.

[operamac]

I argue that it was written for a man to sing... the poetry was written by a man about the death of his children(and mentions imagining seeing the children behind their mother in Oft denk ich) and it was written by Mahler to be performed by a baritone. In fact I actually HATE hearing these pieces done by a female singer,and Mahler songs in general as well,and it is the only time I will say that. Mahler just wrote these pieces so perfectly for the baritone and they lose warmth any other way.

[chubsoffire]

Ditto.

[tonebarry]

You are absolutely right.

[zamolxis7]

Maybe, but the interpretation of Kathleen Ferrier it's very special and very moving. My favorite!

[2oo8Autunno]

You are right. The author of the of the text was a man, Friedrich Rückert, who had lost 2 children in their childhood. He wrote 423 poems called Kindertotenlieder. Mahler used 5 of them for composing "Kindertotenlieder", in spite of protests of his wife. 3 years after composing the last of them, his eldest daughter Maria-Anna died in 1907!

[chiara54324]

You are right!

[radioplug14]

Sung by a female? Except this was written by Ruckert about his own experience on this subject. If anything, it should be sung by a male.

[Rescuedude1]

@radioplug14 I think it should be sung by a castrati

[xGP7]

youre a child

[Maxanime]

Me partió el corazon... Es en serio.

[elcucca]

bravo!!!!!!

[dianaknocksout]

This is child's death song.

Goodbye to the innocent.

[PunkzNotDed]

when did mahler write this?

[iamalittlespy]

Between 1901 - 1904

[angelaharpist]

Bravo Mike, Jesus, Kenneth!

[dnbeat]

It is the State of Mexico Symphony in tolouca and that is Mike on horn. He was great to work with.

KW

[ertatta]

oh my god! is that the state orchestra of mexico toluca and could that possibly be mike mcgirr on horn? i think it is and if so bravo too u mike!

[PaxMaac]

Yay! What a head of hair on that horn player. He looks like a viking! Rrrrrawr!

[krolyh]

Two guys... first of all.. Suaste! and the horn player.. both such a silky sound!

[krolyh]

Two guys... Suaste and the horn player...

[wenarto]

i love this piece...hard to sing well (especially the soft note required on "die Sonne...". His voice reminded me of Fisher-Dieskau but in different sence. Great job AND 5 stars.

[mikewiering]

Very nice, though the camera work could have been done better.

[zamolxis7]

I rather prefer when is sang by a woman. Kathleen Ferrier is a splendor...

[jonaestrada]

good performance

[mwitbe]

beautiful