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@Ltlevim Playing the bass line to the Barney Miller theme song, in case the other six strings break. Also, it looks cool. I have one too, but I wear it as an ankle bracelet to go with my sneakers.
@InsertName125 From Urban Dictionary: Wat The only proper response to something that makes absolutely no sense. 1: If all the animals on the equator were capable of flattery, Halloween and Easter would fall on the same day. 2: wat 1: Wow your cock is almost as big as my dad's. 2: wat 1: I accidentially a whole coke bottle 2: You accidentially what? 1: A whole coke bottle 2: wat
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@Ltlevim By the way. Feel free to use the "urban dictionary" to describe your thoughts. I'll stick with English. After all the work it took to "explain it", wouldn't it have been easier to just include the 'h' and the question mark?
Don't those characters come with your iphone?
That "urban" language sure is a lot more succinct and accurate isn't it?
"peace out brohan"
Wait, no, I have something more cliché to use. Let's see.....
it is just his interpretation of itt. I see him use it in his rasgueados. I cant tell if he uses it anywhere else. The string looks like it is attached specifically for this piece. It is a 6 string guitar. The seventh string gives it more resonance. Other then that I don't know. Others play it with six strings. The only way I can think that he atttached it at the bridge is by looping it through the circle of the 6th string and wrapped it around the bridge.
It looks like he might have a small piece of bone sitting on the edge of the tie block at the bridge to hold the string how he wants it. But I really cant tell.
Some people enjoy this music. There are limitless ways and reasons to listen to music. I still don't understand why disonant Classical music on YouTube usually invokes this 150 year old debate. Concerning the pretentiousness myth, who would be more likely to talk to you after a concert: a world famous classical guitarist who plays this piece or Paris Hilton? Seriously, why are you here? If you already hate this music how did you sit through ten minutes of it? Life's too short. Move on.
the first time I heard a piece like this was in music literature class. I was offended by it because I realized that I would have to study that "trash". That was about 10 years ago and I'm glad I had that reaction to it - that experience means something to me today; It's a part of the life experience. It's all interesting. Life's not too short to hate something.
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@CrabtreeGuitar Did you learn anything from your experience? Or did you just come back to youtube 10 years later to confirm that your initial reaction was "right all along", and required no further thought? Did hating this piece improve you as a musician or as a person?
You're free to hate anything you want, but going out of your way to seek it out, just to say you STILL hate it, seems pretty wasteful to me. Are you on a mission to rid the world of everything you hate?
Oh, complexity (in this case a lack of it) is precisely what I am talking about. I found Murail's work (and this applies to much contemporary music) falsely "complex." I actually try to listen to music without expecting anything other than what each piece gradually offers as it unfolds, and I personally don't believe in art that "challenges" a priori. I just want art that "speaks". I appreciate your comment, echoxander, and am glad you enjoy Murail--I just don't.
While I appreciate that this piece might not 'speak' to you, please be aware that it speaks to me, and many others. As a classical guitarist, I'm often frustrated by the lack of music with interesting textures and sonorities that is halfway playable on the guitar. This piece represents for me a great leap in guitar composition, as it allows for an accessibility of technique and expression usually unheard of within innovative, idiomatic modern guitar works.
Looking at the score probably confused her. Murail has spoken about the limitations of traditional notation, and he finds his own ways at getting his ideas across.
Okay, call me a philistine, but try as I may, I just can't understand this. Why is this brilliant, thought-provoking, passionate, or even plain ol' good?
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Oh, you are not a philistine--you probably happen to have ears, sensibility, and honesty. Things like this, and the pretentious, falsely "superior" attitude of their composers are what have led contemporary music to its current, sorry state. Any piece of popular guitar music is more interesting, eloquent and passionate than this.
This "pretentious, falsely superior" attitude you have is not only a blanket statement across all different types of schools of composition, but applies to the construction of music, not listening - and Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms ALL used really, really complex systems in their works. If you listened to new music expecting your expectations to be breached, you'd be able to get something out of it, even if it doesn't sound like a classical "best hits" album of moazart, chopin, and brahms.
i fail to see how anybody could perceive a falsely superior attitude in the composition alone. One's response to music, while naturally based on aesthetic judgements, should never be coloured by your idea of what is and isn't 'good'. It is not a lie to claim interest in this kind of music, unless you see some arcane, elitist dimension to it. Actually, if you study the sheet music to this piece, you'll find it very accessibly written, and its internal logic and aesthetics might make more sense.
This type of music definitely strikes a bad chord in a lot of people. Offensive even. Over the years I've felt several emotions from it. Starting with offense at my first hearing of it, then humor at seeing other people offended by it, and now I think this one is one of the most interesting guitar scores I've ever heard. It would be interesting to see people's reactions to it as a performer. Have you played it? I want to. It will be unlike anything else I've ever studied.
I've heard of composers putting calculus in their toolbox: "To effectively render these effects to the ear, the durations have been calculated to the average curves of acceleration" Did you get the sense that it is very mathematical or natural, or was it emotional to you?
While the piece was written for Rafael Andia, the piece calls for 6 strings. The 4th string (the standard D string) is tuned to E flat. The score call for retuning the 6th string (low E) to D# part way through.
What's the seventh string for?
Ltlevim 7 months ago
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@Ltlevim Playing the bass line to the Barney Miller theme song, in case the other six strings break. Also, it looks cool. I have one too, but I wear it as an ankle bracelet to go with my sneakers.
InsertName125 3 months ago
@InsertName125 wat
Ltlevim 3 months ago
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@Ltlevim
Here ya go:
h
No need to thank me.
InsertName125 3 months ago
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@Ltlevim
Oh yeah. You'll also need one of these:
?
InsertName125 3 months ago
Ltlevim 3 months ago 8
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@Ltlevim My response was the only proper response to the question of "what the 7th string was for".
1: What's the seventh string for?
2: wat
Am I getting through to you better?
Here's a question: What are the other 6 strings for?
wat
wat
wat
wat
InsertName125 3 months ago
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@Ltlevim By the way. Feel free to use the "urban dictionary" to describe your thoughts. I'll stick with English. After all the work it took to "explain it", wouldn't it have been easier to just include the 'h' and the question mark?
Don't those characters come with your iphone?
That "urban" language sure is a lot more succinct and accurate isn't it?
"peace out brohan"
Wait, no, I have something more cliché to use. Let's see.....
ROTFLMAFO
The level of discourse is amazing!
InsertName125 3 months ago
@InsertName125 Dude, chill. I'm just trying to have a little fun, man. No need to be condescending.
Ltlevim 3 months ago 3
@Ltlevim
it is just his interpretation of itt. I see him use it in his rasgueados. I cant tell if he uses it anywhere else. The string looks like it is attached specifically for this piece. It is a 6 string guitar. The seventh string gives it more resonance. Other then that I don't know. Others play it with six strings. The only way I can think that he atttached it at the bridge is by looping it through the circle of the 6th string and wrapped it around the bridge.
CrabtreeGuitar 3 months ago
@Ltlevim
It looks like he might have a small piece of bone sitting on the edge of the tie block at the bridge to hold the string how he wants it. But I really cant tell.
CrabtreeGuitar 3 months ago
I.... I don't know what to say.... that was amazing.
freejazztampa 1 year ago
WOW that ruled.
cephalopod 1 year ago 3
Excellent performance, by the way. Thanks for posting!
juancomp 2 years ago 5
fantastic sounds
Naelmom 2 years ago 4
E' semplicemente spettacolare,emozionante,incredibile.
rapisvo 2 years ago 2
Very organic. Would sound great as a soundtrack for a suspense movie.
mku17ra 2 years ago
Some people enjoy this music. There are limitless ways and reasons to listen to music. I still don't understand why disonant Classical music on YouTube usually invokes this 150 year old debate. Concerning the pretentiousness myth, who would be more likely to talk to you after a concert: a world famous classical guitarist who plays this piece or Paris Hilton? Seriously, why are you here? If you already hate this music how did you sit through ten minutes of it? Life's too short. Move on.
InsertName125 3 years ago 8
What's dissonant anymore anyway these days? This is pretty mild in that regard. Good point, nonetheless.
juancomp 2 years ago
@InsertName125
the first time I heard a piece like this was in music literature class. I was offended by it because I realized that I would have to study that "trash". That was about 10 years ago and I'm glad I had that reaction to it - that experience means something to me today; It's a part of the life experience. It's all interesting. Life's not too short to hate something.
CrabtreeGuitar 3 months ago 6
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@CrabtreeGuitar Did you learn anything from your experience? Or did you just come back to youtube 10 years later to confirm that your initial reaction was "right all along", and required no further thought? Did hating this piece improve you as a musician or as a person?
You're free to hate anything you want, but going out of your way to seek it out, just to say you STILL hate it, seems pretty wasteful to me. Are you on a mission to rid the world of everything you hate?
InsertName125 3 months ago
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@InsertName125 haha, the paris hilton comment is pretty apt.
fingersmccoy 3 months ago
i think this is one of the best avantgarde works ever written for guitar
JohnPatatino 3 years ago 30
I enjoyed the transformation of sound from music to noise and back again - good piece, and nice playing too.
hmurrieta 3 years ago
Oh, complexity (in this case a lack of it) is precisely what I am talking about. I found Murail's work (and this applies to much contemporary music) falsely "complex." I actually try to listen to music without expecting anything other than what each piece gradually offers as it unfolds, and I personally don't believe in art that "challenges" a priori. I just want art that "speaks". I appreciate your comment, echoxander, and am glad you enjoy Murail--I just don't.
carlitossg 3 years ago
While I appreciate that this piece might not 'speak' to you, please be aware that it speaks to me, and many others. As a classical guitarist, I'm often frustrated by the lack of music with interesting textures and sonorities that is halfway playable on the guitar. This piece represents for me a great leap in guitar composition, as it allows for an accessibility of technique and expression usually unheard of within innovative, idiomatic modern guitar works.
fingersmccoy 3 years ago 4
I'd appreciate it if you didn't call that 'false'. It is a powerful new complexity that, as a guitarist but also as a listener, I find liberating.
fingersmccoy 3 years ago
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DeepSeaSeamus 3 years ago
Looking at the score probably confused her. Murail has spoken about the limitations of traditional notation, and he finds his own ways at getting his ideas across.
penkwist 3 years ago
Okay, call me a philistine, but try as I may, I just can't understand this. Why is this brilliant, thought-provoking, passionate, or even plain ol' good?
GuitarManARS 3 years ago
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Oh, you are not a philistine--you probably happen to have ears, sensibility, and honesty. Things like this, and the pretentious, falsely "superior" attitude of their composers are what have led contemporary music to its current, sorry state. Any piece of popular guitar music is more interesting, eloquent and passionate than this.
carlitossg 3 years ago
This "pretentious, falsely superior" attitude you have is not only a blanket statement across all different types of schools of composition, but applies to the construction of music, not listening - and Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Brahms ALL used really, really complex systems in their works. If you listened to new music expecting your expectations to be breached, you'd be able to get something out of it, even if it doesn't sound like a classical "best hits" album of moazart, chopin, and brahms.
echoxander 3 years ago 3
i fail to see how anybody could perceive a falsely superior attitude in the composition alone. One's response to music, while naturally based on aesthetic judgements, should never be coloured by your idea of what is and isn't 'good'. It is not a lie to claim interest in this kind of music, unless you see some arcane, elitist dimension to it. Actually, if you study the sheet music to this piece, you'll find it very accessibly written, and its internal logic and aesthetics might make more sense.
fingersmccoy 3 years ago
@fingersmccoy
This type of music definitely strikes a bad chord in a lot of people. Offensive even. Over the years I've felt several emotions from it. Starting with offense at my first hearing of it, then humor at seeing other people offended by it, and now I think this one is one of the most interesting guitar scores I've ever heard. It would be interesting to see people's reactions to it as a performer. Have you played it? I want to. It will be unlike anything else I've ever studied.
CrabtreeGuitar 3 months ago
@fingersmccoy
I've heard of composers putting calculus in their toolbox: "To effectively render these effects to the ear, the durations have been calculated to the average curves of acceleration" Did you get the sense that it is very mathematical or natural, or was it emotional to you?
CrabtreeGuitar 3 months ago
visualize the sound as an object and listen to it transform from one state to another
keebr 2 years ago 25
does the piece require 7 strings on the guitar?
It would then probably mean, that Murail wrote it for this player(or his guitar)
xjoseignaciox 3 years ago
While the piece was written for Rafael Andia, the piece calls for 6 strings. The 4th string (the standard D string) is tuned to E flat. The score call for retuning the 6th string (low E) to D# part way through.
penkwist 3 years ago
who's this fantastic guitarist?
xjoseignaciox 3 years ago
Ich liebe die Musik von Murail nicht. Muss ich aber sagen das Tellur ganz schoenes Stueck ist
gianbirino 3 years ago
Very thought provoking and passionate!
shizohal 3 years ago
Wow...
Wow.
sisterenrodentia 3 years ago 3
Astonishing
Reverie10 3 years ago
August midges. Woodchip. Bark that's destined to become ornament.
santasprees 4 years ago
ok, it works!!
itreterroni 4 years ago
simply amazing....!!!
johnspoon88 4 years ago
i love the music of Tristan Murail and these is a great perfomance of Tellur,bravo maestro
parkerzp 4 years ago 2
Excellent, Rafael is an amazing guitarist! (also in Falla's pieces!). We need great composers like Tristan Murail write more music for guitar.
javierbravovideos 4 years ago 3
O god that was mindblowing. Such perfection in that chaos. Just brilliant
jamesgram123 4 years ago
Cool piece...seems inspired by Brouwer's La Eterna Espiral. Could do without the graphics...
minor2nd 5 years ago 2
Interesting. I'd like to get a copy of the score for this
knucmo 5 years ago
The video seems to contain images of the score at 4:32 and 5:46.
kmaijala 4 years ago