La cosa non va sottovaluta e penso che tutti noi e sopratutto il nostro governo (quando ce ne sarà uno degno di tale nome) dovrebbe fare qualcosa.
Anche perchè una delle conseguenze sarebbe un profondo impoverimento commerciale commerciale della nostra nazione, con quel che ne consegue.
Nota: Berlusconi è quel che è, ed è stato solo "una bellissima cieligina sulla torta", ma credetemi non dipende , nè dipende dalla sua presenza tutto ciò che vi ho descritto.
lentamente propagandosi non è affatto da prendere sottogamba. Se il "trend" prosegue così come sta configurandosi credo che l'Italia nell'immaginario persecutorio, sia conscio che inconscio, sia destinata a qualcosa di simile (se non peggio) di ciò che è capitato e capita agli israeliani. Per quanto possa ad alcuni apparire esagerata questa valutazione, chi "mastica" di psicologia delle masse sa bene come sia relativamente semplice e quasi scontato arrivare a questo.
L'argomento riguardava i mondiali di calcio del 2010 e l'unanime "felicità" per la prematura esclusione dell'Italia. Tra i tanti commenti ve ne era uno che riandava
al modiale vinto dall'Italia nel 2006. Questo diceva "bisogna ammettere che l'Italia aveva una buona squadra, anche se hanno imbrogliato e corrotto per arrivare alla finale, ma avrei preferito vedere vincere la squadra del mio peggior nemico piuttosto che l'Italia."
Tutto ciò non essendo più qualche caso isolato ma qualcosa che
Proprio alcuni mesi fà ho frequentato per curiosità un forum indiano di varie notizie (sport, spettacolo, finanza etc.), omettendo la mia nazionalità. Vi posso dire che l'Italia e gli italiani, nelle argomentazioni, in molti casi venivano altamente disprezzati ma nella maggior parte dei casi letteralmente odiati, riprendendo tutto il peggio degli stereotipi ed anche oltre che ci affibiano i "cari"
Inoltre, a peggiorare il problema, il fenomeno si sta estendendo anche ai popoli di area "extra-anglosassone", coinvolgendo anche popoli che hanno avuto scarsi o insignificanti contatti con l'italia, i quali cominciano ad esprimersi nei confronti degli italiani mutuando gli stessi atteggiamenti e preconcetti degli anglosassoni.
Addirittura paesi come la Corea del Sud e di aree parecchio lontane da noi, esprimono, in generale, quasi un disprezzo profondo verso l'Italia e gli italiani.
Osservazione: da parecchio tempo da parte dei popoli di ceppo anglosassone è in atto, a qualsiasi livello, una massiccia campagna sistematicamente denigrante ed infamante rivolta agli italiani e condotta spesso in maniera "strisciante" o sottintesa, altre volte piuttosto apertamente, volta a creare un tappeto sociale e culturale che identifichi gli italiani come espressione della somma dei peggiori difetti di una società, in ogni campo in cui possa manifestarsi.
D'altronde non si pensi neppure che il nordicismo sia limitato ad ambienti affatto marginali da cui le accademie non siano corrotte. Basti considerarne l'operatività negli Stati Uniti, dove gli Americani d'origine nordica insieme a studiosi sono riusciti con una propaganda incessante fondata su leggende, false prove e documentazioni rimaneggiate a rendere estesamente accetta la concezione del raggiungimento del continente americano da parte dei vichingi per primi fra gli Europei.
Se cerchi qualcosa sulla storia della cosiddetta "Vinland map" scoprirari accademici americani di fama aver usato ad inizio del secolo scorso come prova inconfutabile della presenza vichinga in America una mappa scarabocchiata in epoca moderna da dilettanti nemmanco scandinavi. Poi vi è la lunga serie d'iscrizioni ed utensili d'origine nativa ma spacciati per vichinghi..
Insomma, la cosa si è risolta con lo sparpagliamento di piccoli oggetti provenienti dalla Scandinavia medievale in certe aree del nord America e con l'edificazione del più pacchiano sito protetto dall'Unesco, "L'Anse aux Meadows" sull'isola di Terranuova, per la prima volta raggiunta dagli Europei grazie all'italiano Giovanni Caboto. Fra l'altro, non celebrata abbastanza, se non largamente ignota, la figura di Giovanni da Verrazzano, il primo ad esplorare la costa degli odierni Usa.
Saverio Paola Perego non è del Sud, comunque è bene mostrare anche qualcuno a Nord e in Centro, così gli mostri che la penisola è omogenea e risolvi al meglio le idee balzane di taluni che per inciso non pubblicano mai foto di Italiani, ma di attori hollywoodiani magrebini a cui fanno interpretare Italiani. Come quando ci vogliono fare credere che Iraniani e Afghani sono tutti come Ahmadinejad.
Non mi risulta di aver inserito immagini di Paola Perego. Siamo tra due fuochi per quanto riguarda gli attacchi alla composizione etnica degli italiani, ed ognuno di quegli attacchi ha come fine l'appropriazione di quanto pertiene alle nostre genti. Da una parte soggetti non europoidi vorrebbero dare ad intendere un loro contributo nello sviluppo delle grandi civiltà mediterranee tramite un apporto genetico relativamente recente;
dall'altra vi è il vecchio meccanismo nordicistico fondato sul principio della decadenza delle grandi civiltà e culture del passato per via d'una perdita d'una supposta genealogia nordica originaria, secondo argomentazioni ridicolissime, contraddette dalla logica più ovvia e dai fatti più chiari.
@saverioborghese Bello il tuo video e concordo con evadidio: un video con le facce degli Italiani da Nord a Sud per dimostrare l'omogeneità. Io sono del Nord Italia e se per le strade della mia città vedo facce nuove, proprio non so dire se siano francesi, svizzeri o di altre zone d'Italia! A meno che non parlino! ;) Viva l'Italia unita! Viva gli Italiani e... speriamo di risollevare la nostra economia, cavolo!!!
@ancestoralmemory romans were not nordics or like nordics.....nice try, i know you folk have no real history, but trying to connect to greco-roman is like a moroccan claiming hes from the zulu tribe...lol
I hope this makes ALL Italians Feel Better. In Primary about the "German and English SAXON race that descended in Pre-Glacial Times from "Primitive Neanderthal-SAXONS of Saxony-Germany and Saxony England who insults the Italian People who have LOTS of White European Celtic-Germanic NOT Neanderthal Saxon Ape Like Man from Germany-Saxony and England, where ALL P.H.D. Anthropologists KNOW that Saxons Descended from the" European-Cave Ape NEANDERTHAL-SAXONS before the Last Ice Age 11,400 B.C."
@Jules7892 Not quite, Germanics are descended from the Indo-Europeans, as is most of Europe. Indo-Europeans migrated from the Caspian-Ural Steppe in modern Russia into Europe and founded ancient Greece, Rome, Germanic/Celtic/Slavic settlements etc. Even if they did evolve in caves it would have been caves in the Urals (the same as the ancestors of Italians). The reason southern Europeans are darker is because of invasion/interbreeding with non-Europeans, and climate.
@ancestoralmemory i suggest you research the Eutruscans.....they were one of the the early italian peoples and were nothing like the Germanic nordic europeans.
@mrtundra45 I agree, but Etruscans were not Indo-European, however ancient Romans (Latins) were Indo-European. Indo-European features include light hair, eyes and skin, square jaws, narrow noses, tall height etc. (which modern Nordics also have). The Patrician families were the original Romans, and the original Patricians were Indo-European in appearance (at least at the beginning of Roman civilization).
@ancestoralmemory It's disputed whether or not the Etruscans were Indo-European. About the patrician Romans as being northern and indoeuropean differently from the rest, this is insane. First of all the Romans were surrounded by Italic/Indoeuropean peoples in Italy (E.G. the Samnites, the Arpinates, the Bruttii, the Lucani..), secondly they were violently hostile towards Germanic tribes and anyone who was not from the Mediterranean basin: see the Cimbrian wars.
@saverioborghese Vero Saverio, ma il ramo indoario è vasto, non esistono solo gli indogermanici, i Romani come figli di Sabine e di certo misti poi con Faliscii e Vituli, indoitalici ( la parola 'Latini' viene da 'Galati' o 'Wahla'. Wahla, da cui Wahlalla, e da cui poi Galli o Galati, era la parola sanscrita che designava in India la Casta dei Signori, detti anche 'bianchi' ( Galati da Gala, Latte ). I Goti chiamavano 'Wahla' i Romani, ancor oggi in Alta Sassonia Wahlisch vuole dire Italiano.
@ancestoralmemory I FULLY Agree but only with the True Blue-eyed,Green-eyed, light-haired Aryan Peoples. Anthropologists did Analyse Northern Persia-Iran Next to the Eastern part of the Capian Sea. Found the Skelectons and took D.N.A. Bone Samples for D.N.A. Laboratory Analysis. They Found the Direct Genome D.N.A. Molecular Chain which produces Blue-Eyed,Green-Eyed,Light-Hared.Looking up the Un-baised word "ARYAN",North Persia Caspian Sea Area, was the Geo-Graphical Extremely 6,000 B.C.E.Aryans!
who fucking cares? who the fuck cares what we have in our blood? I hope public money wasn't wasted on researching this fucking crap. You wanna show the world that all Italians are alike, a homogenous group? then how about fixing the roads in Calabria for a start you pack of fucking cunts.
i could tell you racists about your true history .how far back can you trace your history is my first question your family I mean you first must no this .can any of you tell me this .no i don't think you can that must be sad for all of you my ancestors were roman my name is 2000 years old my children will go on into the future and no their history .DEBATE ME ....not
There are two main types of white people, the north ice monkeys and the mediterranean. The firts are neofits in the field of civilization, and still have some ugly costums and scary face shapes, the second, well, they were the masters; and bring to the world some lessons of beauty.
@Falcoeira lol....Nordic people are just mad cuz they are Ice monkeys and cave men. and Mediterranean White Europeans have ALL the history and the better looks and superior empires and cultures..... Nordic Europeans are pale stagnant impotent idiots.
Italians Are White Europeans.... sure maybe a few are darker than the others... so what?
Since when did ALL people have the same exact skin tones? Everyones skin has a different hue.
I think Italian women are gorgeous, kind & very sweet. Italians have a wonderful culture even in the U.S. I have always respected Italians for their family values, something the majority of other ethnic groups lack.
Italians are everything but a homogeneous ethnic group. The US Bureau of Immigration (see US Senate Dillingham Commission Report, vol 5) divided immigrants of "italian" origin in two categories: Keltic - fair complexion and broad-headed - the Northeners coming from the inland part of the country (nowadays Padania), and Iberic-Mediterranean, those coming from the South, more akin to the Spaniards and Northern africans.
Italians are everything but a homogeneous ethnic group. The US Bureau of Immigration (see US Senate Dillingham Commission Report, vol 5) divided immigrants of "italian" origin in two categories: Keltic - fair complexion and broad-headed - the Northeners coming from the inland part of the country (nowadays Padania), and Iberic-Mediterranean, those coming from the South, more akin to the Spaniards and Northern africans.
in my previous post there's a typo .....................I meant that Mr Adolf himself........the fucking racist.....had Northern african ancestry ( the word ancestry was missing so that I add it here)
Part 2 Mr Adolf himself had Northern African as it has been proved (he had a Jude ancestor). Judes spread throughout the whole Europe and that 1.5% of northern african haplogroups in whole Europe represent just that. But Judes were also in southern italy, dude. And southern italy has more middle easterner blood than Northern italy thanks to the greek settlements. Unless you believe that the Greeks of Magna Graecia were a pure indoeuropean people. They were a bit mixed with middle easterners.
@wann700 Though I know that Italians and Greeks are indeed Caucasion I also know that Adolf Hitler was not of north African descent. The whiners have been trying to say similar things ever since he died. I reviewd the "science" applied to this latest claim and t is a joke. Some people are making money on the notion and I am sure that many of that "some" are jews.
Why don' t you say that the Celtic haplogroup R1b is the most frequent in North Western italy while in North Eastern italy R1b is the most frequent but also the R1a (germanic or slavic) is also well represented (let's remember that the Po valley was Cisalpine Gaul before and Langobardia then) ? Why don' t you say that these haplogroups disappear in southern italy (Magna Graecia) ? Why don' t you say that the 0% Northern African haplogroup in southern italy is a fake ?
J2 is the the DNA of the ancient phoenecians meaning mordern day lebanese and also nearly all scientist and professors have said this DNA came from the Levant meaning lebanon syria parts of turkey and palestine and it is known by history that way before the romans and the greeks that the phoenecians were in control of the mediteranean
@landza99 They were around 7,000 years ago. I would be more wise to point out the fact that Italy and Greece's dna would suggest that if they do have dna in Italy even in Northern Italy it is their connection to the near East not just the East Mediterranean Lebanon is on the border. J2 is also found in Albania,it does exist in Spain but is it slight. Y is usually a male cromosome, but they have tested females in the Levantine part of West Asia minor.
@theHeliosphan1 the italians as the scientist has said that 9% to 36% have j2 dna in all regions of italy meaning there is no region in italy that doesnt have atleast 9% dna(j2) , in the greeks its even higher with 10% to 48% in every region i live in sydney australia and just by looking at greeks italians lebanese maltese turks and spanish people its sometimes hard to tell what nationality they are.These nationalities also carry some j1 dna especially maltese spanish and some greeks an italians
@landza99 Geneticist Pierre Zalloua has charted the spread of the Phoenicians out of the eastern Mediterranean by identifying an ancient type of DNA which some Lebanese, Syrians and Palestinians share with Maltese, Spaniards and Tunisians.
I SUGGEST EVRYONE READS THIS In Europe, the frequency of Haplogroup J2 drops dramatically as one moves northward away from the Mediterranean. In Italy, J2 is found with regional frequencies ranging between 9% and 36%.[16] In Greece, it is found with regional frequencies ranging between 10% and 48%. Approximately 24% of Turkish men are J2 according to a recent study,[11] with regional frequencies ranging between 13% and 40%.[12] Combined with J1, up to half of the Turkish population are j
@landza99 The genetic marker which identifies descendants of the ancient Levantines is found among members of all of Lebanon's religious communities, he said. "It's a story that can actually unite Lebanon much more than anything else."
The marker, known as the J2 haplogroup, was found in an unusually high proportion among Lebanese, Palestinians and Syrians tested by Zalloua during more than five years of research. He tested 1,000 people in the region.
@theHeliosphan1 But yes I know I know about the Levant and the East Med. I think those people are the best looking in Europe also they forget Albanians Croatians and Georgians.
J2 is found at very high frequencies in the peoples of the Caucasus - among the Georgians 21%[3]-72%,[4] Azeris 24%[5]-48%,[4] Ingush 32%,[7] Chechens 26%,[7] Balkars 24%,[13] Ossetians 24%,[7] Armenians 21.3%[4]-24%,[7] and other groups.[3][7]
Haplogroup J2 is found mainly in the Fertile Crescent, the Caucasus,[3] Anatolia, the Balkans, Italy, the Mediterranean littoral, the Iranian plateau, Central Asia, and South Asia.[1] More specifically it is found in Iraq,[23] Syria, Lebanon,[24] Turkey, Israel, Palestine, Greece, Italy and the Iberian Peninsula[25], and more frequently in Iraqis 29.7% [26], Lebanese 25%[27], Palestinians 16.8%[1], Syrians 22.5% [28], India 7%, Sephardic Jews 29%, Kurds 28.4%, turkey in palestine and palestine
i lived in italy for 3 years....there white, only people who disagree are a few ignorant idiots and at the end of the day who cares what a few idiots think...there not real just odd balls on the internet, in fact these dummies have probably never travelled and believe everything they see in the movies.cheers from the uk
@sanzone7 The people you've brilliantly described are probably americans. Unfortunately, the ignorance rate in America is very high... If I were american, I'd be really ashamed of my fellow countrymen, their stupid prejudices and false beliefs. As an italian, I was shocked when I knew that some american rednecks thought we were not white... How stupid ignorant people can be?!
@jgirl76 Everybody wants to be Italian. So many fake in the world, claiming and pretending they are Italians BTW who the hell cares?! All EU has mixed blood: UK has got Roman and Celtic blood as much as Italians do. FCUK the rest of the world still talking about races! Brits are getting married to beautiful people from North Africa, India, Japan... FCUK all the racists!
@jgirl76 Dumb ass, They're Caucasian not white, There's a difference there can be white Italians, but majority of the are Tanish brown color. remember this White is not a race! in fact White is a Descriptions to a certain group of Caucasians. Fact: Did you know Arabs and Indian Hindus are Caucasian. Would you call them white? no because of their skin color same with Italians. Western Woman: " I like them tall, dark, and handsome = Italian man.
@saverioborghese According to Eupedia 2010 (the European Genetics), E1b1b frequencies : Italy 11 % North Italy 11 % Central Italy 10 % South Italy 18 % Sicily 17,5 % Sardinia 10 % According to tectonics, before 11000 BC, Sicily and Tunisia were joined so people moved on the two ways. According to mathematical lexicology, latin is derived from berber languages. This result has been demonstrated (!) unlige genetics which are under political pressure...
@beauceronyx No, we have J1 and J2 dna that's it no Nordic R1 or African E1 our J2 East Med dna is 28-30 percent not 27 percent ( where did you get that from?!?) it says so in the link in my profile
@beauceronyx That's what they did, I could say that about any country with any population. Read the website again, please! They are not small samples they were the same amount of people in all religious comunities the same amount of blood the same results it is not difficult to understand. Any idiot can say anything they want, it's up to genetics to tell the truth!
@beauceronyx And i'm reading again what you are saying, they tested more than 1,000 people there are just under four million in Lebanon, they could test the whole population it would be the same I would bet money on that fact. Since when do people test the whole country when they test genetics? it's not just to reveal J2 it's J1 AND J2 and we have both, I could print out other websites ( apart from wiki ) to confirm this, My point is they have tested the same amount of people from all religious
@beauceronyx Groups so that is the basic outline of our genetics in all religious groups the same dna test were found in Palestine Syria Jordan Turkey Algeria and Tunisia these people out of Arabs share the med dna in all religious sects. Don't argue with me about the quantity and listen to what I am saying.....
@beauceronyx They found it in all religious sects too not just the Cathlics in Lebanon ( liars and fakes ) but in Shia and Sunni and Christian Orthodox sects I am proud to be part of the Alpine and Middle Eastern race! Just read the link in my profile they already have done dna tests
@beauceronyx Sorry, lol I mean they have found the same DNA in Muslim Shia and Sunni sects and also Christians who are Orthodox everyone in Lebanon is the same no matter what religion.
Because they refuse the truth, as saverioborghese, the author of the video, who is falsifying the results.
See them at Eupedia.com, the European Genetics..., country by country and it is clearly evident that E1b1b is in higher frequencies : 11 % in Italy : 11 % in the North, 10 % in the Centre, 18 % in the South, 17,5 % in Sicily and only 10 % in Sardinia.
Don't forget that before 11000 BC Sicily and Tunisia were joined so people moved in the two ways...
(PS) Any variation in the selection of a given trait can trigger in a a few generations the change of its frequency without the need of a different origin or admixture with other populations.
Yeah that is because humans are extremely mutative. You can many people in a single population born mutatively with the same trait without it coming from a single founder.
In fact, the matter of which it came so quickly in a population would have to imply that there was more than one founder in the population.
Mutations are interesting as they can reoccur again and again.
(2/2) North African ancestral population are referred as "Moors", a clear denigrative term. Biassed exhibition of portraits of Italians with fair skin and clear eyes as representative of the population of South Italy to support no possible genetic relation between the Italians and the North Africans. Whereas there isn't direct correlation between skin color and genetic background. Skin color is 1 among many inheritable traits that can be selected for or against.
Moors are distinctively refer to as Arab-Berber mix people though in reality they are Berbers who have adopted Arabic. Culturally almost all Muslim or African people are regarded as Moors by Europeans including the Muslim populations of Indonesia, which were called Moors by the invaded Portuguese.
It is the same as the Arabs and Muslims (West Asia and Africa) calling us Franks.
(1/2) I've reported this video as inappropriate. I think it favors skin color as a sign of national identity. I don't think to be inappropriate because of its denying of any relation between the Italians and North Africans, which might be proved true after consistent studies, but rather because the color of the skin is treated as a matter of national identity. Dark skin color is not considered as "representative Italian population". North African ancestral population are referred as "Moors"...
There isn't much that North Africans and Italians have in common.
You are using a specific gene from the Y-Chromosome (J1) to distinguish people.
That trait comes from a mutations. Mutations are reoccurring and humans are extremely mutative. You could have someone who is Inuit with J1 and with both of his parents lacking that gene.
What does that say about your knowledge? Zip.
I am the Radical Ryushin, everything I say is the truth for I am the Radical Ryushin. You can agree or be wrong.
@TheRadicalRyushin Thank you for being so unnecessarily rude to me! Berbers have no ties to Syria whatsso ever, they are Moorish Arabs and Syrians are Medish Arabs. There are some Bedouin tribes in Jordan. The Phoenicians were from the Greater Levant, which was mostly just Western Asia, Lebanese people have mostly J1 DNA at least 70-75 percent their J2 genetics is 20-30 percent . There has also been false claims that it is only the Cathlics who carry these genes, more bullshit!
The Semitic DNA that the Phoenicans have is J1 that's the most I'd say 70-75 percent of our genetic make up is that. The rest is J2 which is also Semitic but they can have it in the Eastern Mediterranean. Like Italians and Greeks and all that might have 3-4 percent and Lebanese Syrians and Palestinians have it 20-30 percent. Lol. Others like Turks and Armenians and Azeris will have it too. or traits of it. The Berbers are from Morocco.
Berbers are from all of North Africa, before then they as an Afro-Asiatic people have ancestry ties to Syria.
Don't be so damn ridiculous to ignore what I say. Put my words into the input of your mind and act as though you are discussing with me and not simply speaking over me.
@TheRadicalRyushin I have not even stated the difference between Northern and Southern Italy, they're European not Arabs so in all sides of the country there won't be much J genetics anyway. I am a Awalite Shia Muslim, I could trace my family back centuries they were the 74th people to immigrate there, now there are just over 4 million people in Lebanon, there you go, plus I have just as many dark skinned and black haired people in my Mum's side that bloodline as blonde haired blue eyed people
Indo-Hittites divided into Aegean-Anatolians (Etruscans, Hittites, Minoans) and Indo-Europeans (Iranians, Indians, Germans, Celts, Italians, Russians, ect...)
The Indo-Europeans divided into two main groups with a third that emerge as a creole between the two. North Indo-Europeans (Germans and Balto-Slavs), South Indo-Europeans (Greeks, Indians, Armenians, and Iranians), and the mixture that became the Celto-Italic-Tocharian people. The Tocharians were the first to move out of this group.
Nostratics divided into Indo-Caucasian, Uralo-Siberian, and Japonic-Altaic people.
Indo-Caucasian had emerged as a creole or blend of the early Proto-Uralo-Siberian (Finns) and Japonic-Altaic (Turk, Mongol, Japanese) people due to their proxy of living between the two. Eventually as the Altaic people migrated East, the Indo-Caucasian people began to develop as a distinctive people and then started to divided into Indo-Hittite and Pontic-Caucasian people (Circassian and Georgian people).
Lets start at the beginning, between 18 and 15 thousand years ago, a group of East-Sudanic Nilo-Saharan emigrated out of Egypt into West Asia. In West Asia they divided into two groups, one traveled East into Tibet (Chinese, Apache-Navajo, Thai, Filipino, Malaysian, and Vietnamese People) and the other traveled North into the Caucasus. The one that migrated North quickly divided into two, Nostratics and Afro-Asians (Arabs, Egyptians, Berbers, and Cushites).
Genes are not useful for anything other than immediate relationships (100 to 500 years), however things start getting fuzzy if you go further back.
Alterations in genes (such as the emergence of J1 or E3b or whatever) are results of mutations. Mutations occur randomly, which means they occur based on probability. If something comes based on probability, it is likely to come again. Which means someone in the world without E-M81 parents is being born with the mutation of having E-M81.
@FoziaAbdi May be your descended from african blood you should worry about canada fast growing non white population from Asia and Africa .You 'll live long enought to see the so called canadian mongrel race turning black and Asian.
So don't worry about the descendants of other nations when you have something nice to look forward to when your family descendants WILL turn Black !
Long live to the south of Italy, or better, to the Two Sicilies Kingdom, but Sicily wants to be independent, and so, long live to the Kingdom of Naples and the indipendent Republic of Sicily! Southern Italians were and are always arabs, WE ARE NOT ITALIANS !
@CesarioFriskone your out of your mind.The arabs got their asses kicked out into the sea by the Christain Normans.You are obviuosly not an Italian youy arer a shill asshole.
@daehoidareht What fuck do you know about this??? Are you Italian??? You're a stupid donkey, you know nothing about Southern Italian history! I come from a little country near Naples and if you allow, I know my history more than you. In the North of Italy before the birth of Jesus there were Celtic people who had conquered all the northern part of Italy, instead in the south there were Greeks and after Jesus' birth after Roman power, there were Arabs and Normans, too!!
@daehoidareht So, I wanna tell you that people living in South Italy has got Arab blood into their DNA, opposite of the rest of Italian people. In the end we shouldn't effectively Arabs all right, but we have some DNA parts into our blood!! Understand now!??! Ah, and be educated next time, don't offend other people before talking, dumbass donkey!!!
@daehoidareht Azz io dovrei finirla e perdipiù io sarei un cretinoo?!?! Quando mi hai attaccato tu in inglese dicendo solamente stronzate, non mi hai nemmeno attaccato dicendo cose sensate, grande testa di cazzo, io sarei un cretino?!?? Mah certa gente vige qui sopra -.-""... ah comunque volevo chiederti una curiosità: come cazzo fai ad essere ancora vivo qui su youtube e a rispondere anche ai miei commenti se il tuo canale è stato bloccato, quando ci vado su, non mi fa accedere!!!!
@daehoidareht DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS, DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS, DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS, DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS, DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS
@CesarioFriskone Really? she has been dead for 25 years,but it figures a sorry pathetic piece of shit like you would have to relay on a dead person,because no live person would go near you pezzo di merda .Now go and bend overand let the donkeys and dogs ass fuck you.You ciucciacazzi (dicksucker),testa di cazzo(dick head) fottiti (go fuck yourself).You faggot.
. #3: I've seen plenty of Italians with olive skin, dark eyes and hair. Where the hell are all the dark eyed dark haired and olive skinned Italians at ? Are they hiding out somewhere in Italy? LOL
#2: My mother has Brown eyes and olive skin and The Roman nose, and none of these people look any thing like her. it's funny how the poster got pics of mostly blond haired and either Blue, Green,or gray eyes, it almost seems like the poster is trying to say a true Italian mostly has Blond hair and light colored eyes and anything thing else isn't really how a true Italian looks.
#1: It's funny cause my mother is Italian and German Grand mother was 100% German and my grand father on my mothers side was straight off the boat from Calabria, Italy he had Black hair green eyes and my mother came out with Jet Black curly hair (Big curls not afro like. the kind of curly where the shorter it is the straighter it appears and the longer it is the curlier it appears)
those southern italians are white . They are aryan just like everyone else in europe .The only people who think theyre not white are Italo- Americans who want to fit in wifh Mexicans,Puerto Ricans etc. Just because the italian language is similar to spanish doesn't change anything,Language doesn't change PHYSICAL RACE. If it did change race than the English aren't "White"because they spoke Latin for 400 years. Nuff said.
@mikallink don't use the word "aryan" so easy, becouse the true aryans are not swedens nor slaves, but Iranians. Iran = land of aryan. Aryans had lighter skintone, it's true, but had dark hair and eyes.
@0989aiko fair enough, but either way euros and iranians are of the same stock and share the common trait of fair skin.light or dark hair does not mean you are less or more caucasian. if it did than dark haired swedes or whomever are less caucasian than are lighter haired swedes or spaniards or russians or whatever.
very funny video and even funnier comments. HAPLO this HAPLO that man the world of scince has really got you guys twisted... TRUTH (if you can handle it) YOURE ALL BLACK yes its true YOURE ALL BLACK. we don't wantcha but we got cha. your summin' like the f*^k'd up half retarded cousin..
Your video is cute, but incorrect and frankly, quite desperate. Bottom line is that the CGS study that shows the subaharan haplogroup also shows the 2nd largest concentration of black genetics in Europe occurs in...Italy. They took a 1000 person control group. I dont know why you dont like this, but the truth of the matter is, there is no pure race anywhere.
it's impossible. The largest concentration must be in Spain or in Greece. Italy was influenced by arabs very little, just in some southern regions. Watch my video "are souther europeans white" please... it explains everything...
Only Sicily had a strong Arabic influence and indeed Sicily is a region with a special status in Italy. Central Italy was never dominated nor invaded my arabs. On the contrary it was invaded by Germans.
I'm from Sicily and I say the influence of arabic culture arrived also to other southern regions like Puglia, Campania, Calabria, Sardinia and Southern Lazio.
Same thing happens in Asia. In Europe, everybody does not want to relate with haplogroup E. In Asia, everybody does not want to relate with haplogroup C and haplogroup D. Europeans are proud of haplogroup R, Asians are proud of haplogroup O.
Great Video but no need to show only blonds my mom is from Molise and dad fro Puglia we all have very white skin much to white as i need a tan lol. From north to south there are Italians with brown hair and brown eyes like real Romans and some with blond and blue/green eyes. We are Italian we civilized the world including the German barbarians and the uncivilized French Gauls. Be proud to be Italian there is nothing better and people who disrespect us only because they wish the could be Italian.
well its only obvious that " SOME " Italians are going to be albino im sorry i meant goth. but please refer back to the history of the ROMANS they clearly depicted themselves as anything but BLONDE HAIR, AND BLUE EYES. they usually refereed to those people as Brittunculi and Goths. =D so with that im sure it is a fact that Italy has been recently invaded by the goths.
@saverioborghese False, Gothes won the Byzantine, ignrant! Old Romans had white skin, but dark hair and eyes, they belonged to the haplogroup J2, the same of odl Greeks and Persians. The true aryans. Bye
Actually the Lombards were pacified by the Franks and Charlemagne as a result became crowned by the Latin Pope, the Holy Roman Emperor.
Plus it is the land and its environment that draws out the factors of mutation and those mutations is what makes people what they are in appearance. So even if someone Chinese settled in Venice, over centuries, Mr. Mao would begin to look like Mussolini. In other words, the land is what makes you, not your blood.
@PharaohII julius ceaser was pale or very white looking its pointed out in the old writings. but ceaser was fro milan i believe so it would make sense
@TAKEMARU666 lmao YOUR SMOKING METH!! and someone lied to you. WHY WOULD MANY ROMAN HISTORIANS WRITE ABOUT THE FEATURES OF THE GOTHS AND THE BRITTUNCULIS AS BEING PALE AND HAIRY if the " ROMANS " WHERE THE SAME COLOR or THE SAME TYPE OF PERSON.......... LMAO FUCKING LAME!! go lie to a child who doesn't read like an elementary student.
@PharaohII dude you obviously dont know what italian is its part of europe your retarded. nordics have tan people aswell this is why the world is so lame cuz people like you who arnt capable of logical thinking. northern italy has tons of light skinned people southern is tan just liek alot of countries.
@TAKEMARU666 just cause its part of europe you think they are white then why is that EGYPT IS PART OF AFRICA BUT YOU BITCHES REFUSE TO ACCEPT THEM AS BLACK!! you know what YOUR CHOOSING AND YOUR CLAIMS ARE FALSE CAUSE YOUR GOING AGAINST THE TEACHING OF THE ROMANS WHO CLEARLY DEPICTED THEMSELVES AS A DIFFERENT RACE THEN NORTHERN EUROPEANS!! YOU CAN HATE IT ALL YOU WANT BUT IT IS TRUE!!
@PharaohII i accept egypt was black,...... and also yes southern italians are very tan originally but did you know julius ceaser was very white its recorded by tons of people at the time. and also race isnt by color. and italian and greek skulls and nazel cavaties resembl;e nordic type not african,
@TAKEMARU666 another key factor is ancinet egyptians are thought to be very dark atleast the ones in power. so at the time italians looked white to them.
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Whites are a minority in the world and they will become extinct, so the whole humanity will be black! Black Power! ahahahahah
belblus 1 month ago
e3b and J is latin DNA and arab and berber share same DNA with latin.
polychronio 1 month ago
6.
La cosa non va sottovaluta e penso che tutti noi e sopratutto il nostro governo (quando ce ne sarà uno degno di tale nome) dovrebbe fare qualcosa.
Anche perchè una delle conseguenze sarebbe un profondo impoverimento commerciale commerciale della nostra nazione, con quel che ne consegue.
Nota: Berlusconi è quel che è, ed è stato solo "una bellissima cieligina sulla torta", ma credetemi non dipende , nè dipende dalla sua presenza tutto ciò che vi ho descritto.
IL BERSAGLIO SIAMO NOI.
exnemocpt 4 months ago 4
5.
lentamente propagandosi non è affatto da prendere sottogamba. Se il "trend" prosegue così come sta configurandosi credo che l'Italia nell'immaginario persecutorio, sia conscio che inconscio, sia destinata a qualcosa di simile (se non peggio) di ciò che è capitato e capita agli israeliani. Per quanto possa ad alcuni apparire esagerata questa valutazione, chi "mastica" di psicologia delle masse sa bene come sia relativamente semplice e quasi scontato arrivare a questo.
exnemocpt 4 months ago 3
4.
L'argomento riguardava i mondiali di calcio del 2010 e l'unanime "felicità" per la prematura esclusione dell'Italia. Tra i tanti commenti ve ne era uno che riandava
al modiale vinto dall'Italia nel 2006. Questo diceva "bisogna ammettere che l'Italia aveva una buona squadra, anche se hanno imbrogliato e corrotto per arrivare alla finale, ma avrei preferito vedere vincere la squadra del mio peggior nemico piuttosto che l'Italia."
Tutto ciò non essendo più qualche caso isolato ma qualcosa che
exnemocpt 4 months ago 3
3.
Proprio alcuni mesi fà ho frequentato per curiosità un forum indiano di varie notizie (sport, spettacolo, finanza etc.), omettendo la mia nazionalità. Vi posso dire che l'Italia e gli italiani, nelle argomentazioni, in molti casi venivano altamente disprezzati ma nella maggior parte dei casi letteralmente odiati, riprendendo tutto il peggio degli stereotipi ed anche oltre che ci affibiano i "cari"
inglesi o americani.
Vi scrivo la cosa più gentile che ho letto.
exnemocpt 4 months ago 3
2.
Inoltre, a peggiorare il problema, il fenomeno si sta estendendo anche ai popoli di area "extra-anglosassone", coinvolgendo anche popoli che hanno avuto scarsi o insignificanti contatti con l'italia, i quali cominciano ad esprimersi nei confronti degli italiani mutuando gli stessi atteggiamenti e preconcetti degli anglosassoni.
Addirittura paesi come la Corea del Sud e di aree parecchio lontane da noi, esprimono, in generale, quasi un disprezzo profondo verso l'Italia e gli italiani.
exnemocpt 4 months ago 3
1.
Osservazione: da parecchio tempo da parte dei popoli di ceppo anglosassone è in atto, a qualsiasi livello, una massiccia campagna sistematicamente denigrante ed infamante rivolta agli italiani e condotta spesso in maniera "strisciante" o sottintesa, altre volte piuttosto apertamente, volta a creare un tappeto sociale e culturale che identifichi gli italiani come espressione della somma dei peggiori difetti di una società, in ogni campo in cui possa manifestarsi.
exnemocpt 4 months ago 3
Check out Italian anthropology's website, which is on either italianthro or racialreality DOT blogspot DOT com if you want to clear your mind :P
LouiseHans10 6 months ago
D'altronde non si pensi neppure che il nordicismo sia limitato ad ambienti affatto marginali da cui le accademie non siano corrotte. Basti considerarne l'operatività negli Stati Uniti, dove gli Americani d'origine nordica insieme a studiosi sono riusciti con una propaganda incessante fondata su leggende, false prove e documentazioni rimaneggiate a rendere estesamente accetta la concezione del raggiungimento del continente americano da parte dei vichingi per primi fra gli Europei.
saverioborghese 7 months ago
Se cerchi qualcosa sulla storia della cosiddetta "Vinland map" scoprirari accademici americani di fama aver usato ad inizio del secolo scorso come prova inconfutabile della presenza vichinga in America una mappa scarabocchiata in epoca moderna da dilettanti nemmanco scandinavi. Poi vi è la lunga serie d'iscrizioni ed utensili d'origine nativa ma spacciati per vichinghi..
saverioborghese 7 months ago
Insomma, la cosa si è risolta con lo sparpagliamento di piccoli oggetti provenienti dalla Scandinavia medievale in certe aree del nord America e con l'edificazione del più pacchiano sito protetto dall'Unesco, "L'Anse aux Meadows" sull'isola di Terranuova, per la prima volta raggiunta dagli Europei grazie all'italiano Giovanni Caboto. Fra l'altro, non celebrata abbastanza, se non largamente ignota, la figura di Giovanni da Verrazzano, il primo ad esplorare la costa degli odierni Usa.
saverioborghese 7 months ago
Saverio Paola Perego non è del Sud, comunque è bene mostrare anche qualcuno a Nord e in Centro, così gli mostri che la penisola è omogenea e risolvi al meglio le idee balzane di taluni che per inciso non pubblicano mai foto di Italiani, ma di attori hollywoodiani magrebini a cui fanno interpretare Italiani. Come quando ci vogliono fare credere che Iraniani e Afghani sono tutti come Ahmadinejad.
evadidio 7 months ago 2
Non mi risulta di aver inserito immagini di Paola Perego. Siamo tra due fuochi per quanto riguarda gli attacchi alla composizione etnica degli italiani, ed ognuno di quegli attacchi ha come fine l'appropriazione di quanto pertiene alle nostre genti. Da una parte soggetti non europoidi vorrebbero dare ad intendere un loro contributo nello sviluppo delle grandi civiltà mediterranee tramite un apporto genetico relativamente recente;
saverioborghese 7 months ago
dall'altra vi è il vecchio meccanismo nordicistico fondato sul principio della decadenza delle grandi civiltà e culture del passato per via d'una perdita d'una supposta genealogia nordica originaria, secondo argomentazioni ridicolissime, contraddette dalla logica più ovvia e dai fatti più chiari.
saverioborghese 7 months ago
@saverioborghese Bello il tuo video e concordo con evadidio: un video con le facce degli Italiani da Nord a Sud per dimostrare l'omogeneità. Io sono del Nord Italia e se per le strade della mia città vedo facce nuove, proprio non so dire se siano francesi, svizzeri o di altre zone d'Italia! A meno che non parlino! ;) Viva l'Italia unita! Viva gli Italiani e... speriamo di risollevare la nostra economia, cavolo!!!
LouiseHans10 6 months ago
@ancestoralmemory Romans didnt look like Hulk Hogan ....lol nice try bud.
mrtundra45 8 months ago
@ancestoralmemory romans were not nordics or like nordics.....nice try, i know you folk have no real history, but trying to connect to greco-roman is like a moroccan claiming hes from the zulu tribe...lol
mrtundra45 8 months ago
I hope this makes ALL Italians Feel Better. In Primary about the "German and English SAXON race that descended in Pre-Glacial Times from "Primitive Neanderthal-SAXONS of Saxony-Germany and Saxony England who insults the Italian People who have LOTS of White European Celtic-Germanic NOT Neanderthal Saxon Ape Like Man from Germany-Saxony and England, where ALL P.H.D. Anthropologists KNOW that Saxons Descended from the" European-Cave Ape NEANDERTHAL-SAXONS before the Last Ice Age 11,400 B.C."
Jules7892 9 months ago
@Jules7892 Not quite, Germanics are descended from the Indo-Europeans, as is most of Europe. Indo-Europeans migrated from the Caspian-Ural Steppe in modern Russia into Europe and founded ancient Greece, Rome, Germanic/Celtic/Slavic settlements etc. Even if they did evolve in caves it would have been caves in the Urals (the same as the ancestors of Italians). The reason southern Europeans are darker is because of invasion/interbreeding with non-Europeans, and climate.
ancestoralmemory 8 months ago
@ancestoralmemory i suggest you research the Eutruscans.....they were one of the the early italian peoples and were nothing like the Germanic nordic europeans.
mrtundra45 8 months ago
@mrtundra45 I agree, but Etruscans were not Indo-European, however ancient Romans (Latins) were Indo-European. Indo-European features include light hair, eyes and skin, square jaws, narrow noses, tall height etc. (which modern Nordics also have). The Patrician families were the original Romans, and the original Patricians were Indo-European in appearance (at least at the beginning of Roman civilization).
ancestoralmemory 8 months ago
@ancestoralmemory It's disputed whether or not the Etruscans were Indo-European. About the patrician Romans as being northern and indoeuropean differently from the rest, this is insane. First of all the Romans were surrounded by Italic/Indoeuropean peoples in Italy (E.G. the Samnites, the Arpinates, the Bruttii, the Lucani..), secondly they were violently hostile towards Germanic tribes and anyone who was not from the Mediterranean basin: see the Cimbrian wars.
saverioborghese 7 months ago
@saverioborghese Vero Saverio, ma il ramo indoario è vasto, non esistono solo gli indogermanici, i Romani come figli di Sabine e di certo misti poi con Faliscii e Vituli, indoitalici ( la parola 'Latini' viene da 'Galati' o 'Wahla'. Wahla, da cui Wahlalla, e da cui poi Galli o Galati, era la parola sanscrita che designava in India la Casta dei Signori, detti anche 'bianchi' ( Galati da Gala, Latte ). I Goti chiamavano 'Wahla' i Romani, ancor oggi in Alta Sassonia Wahlisch vuole dire Italiano.
evadidio 7 months ago
@ancestoralmemory I FULLY Agree but only with the True Blue-eyed,Green-eyed, light-haired Aryan Peoples. Anthropologists did Analyse Northern Persia-Iran Next to the Eastern part of the Capian Sea. Found the Skelectons and took D.N.A. Bone Samples for D.N.A. Laboratory Analysis. They Found the Direct Genome D.N.A. Molecular Chain which produces Blue-Eyed,Green-Eyed,Light-Hared.Looking up the Un-baised word "ARYAN",North Persia Caspian Sea Area, was the Geo-Graphical Extremely 6,000 B.C.E.Aryans!
Jules7892 8 months ago
who fucking cares? who the fuck cares what we have in our blood? I hope public money wasn't wasted on researching this fucking crap. You wanna show the world that all Italians are alike, a homogenous group? then how about fixing the roads in Calabria for a start you pack of fucking cunts.
shtuwang 9 months ago
ITALIAN! WHITE PRIDE!!!. THE REAL WHITES!!!. ITALIANS ARE THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!. KINGS!!
draziom902 9 months ago 6
Italians are white.
Period.
Anya20879 10 months ago
i could tell you racists about your true history .how far back can you trace your history is my first question your family I mean you first must no this .can any of you tell me this .no i don't think you can that must be sad for all of you my ancestors were roman my name is 2000 years old my children will go on into the future and no their history .DEBATE ME ....not
Chansulus 10 months ago
There are two main types of white people, the north ice monkeys and the mediterranean. The firts are neofits in the field of civilization, and still have some ugly costums and scary face shapes, the second, well, they were the masters; and bring to the world some lessons of beauty.
Falcoeira 11 months ago 2
@Falcoeira lol....Nordic people are just mad cuz they are Ice monkeys and cave men. and Mediterranean White Europeans have ALL the history and the better looks and superior empires and cultures..... Nordic Europeans are pale stagnant impotent idiots.
Italians Are White Europeans.... sure maybe a few are darker than the others... so what?
Since when did ALL people have the same exact skin tones? Everyones skin has a different hue.
mrtundra45 10 months ago
Southern Slavs were invaded by Turks-gypsies, thats the reason for their genetic markers.
S0lidState 11 months ago
No offense but it would have been much easier if you would have printed it instead of letter by letter scrolling / and or narrated it.
vamtheanomaly 11 months ago
I think Italian women are gorgeous, kind & very sweet. Italians have a wonderful culture even in the U.S. I have always respected Italians for their family values, something the majority of other ethnic groups lack.
mikesbyv 1 year ago 6
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Italians are everything but a homogeneous ethnic group. The US Bureau of Immigration (see US Senate Dillingham Commission Report, vol 5) divided immigrants of "italian" origin in two categories: Keltic - fair complexion and broad-headed - the Northeners coming from the inland part of the country (nowadays Padania), and Iberic-Mediterranean, those coming from the South, more akin to the Spaniards and Northern africans.
lasthurrahh 1 year ago
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Italians are everything but a homogeneous ethnic group. The US Bureau of Immigration (see US Senate Dillingham Commission Report, vol 5) divided immigrants of "italian" origin in two categories: Keltic - fair complexion and broad-headed - the Northeners coming from the inland part of the country (nowadays Padania), and Iberic-Mediterranean, those coming from the South, more akin to the Spaniards and Northern africans.
lasthurrahh 1 year ago
So how accurate is the wiki page on Italian genetics, especially in regards to Medieval migration of Y DNA
inhumanhyena 1 year ago
The music to these videos is epic
inhumanhyena 1 year ago
Part 3
Errata Corrige
in my previous post there's a typo .....................I meant that Mr Adolf himself........the fucking racist.....had Northern african ancestry ( the word ancestry was missing so that I add it here)
wann700 1 year ago
Part 2 Mr Adolf himself had Northern African as it has been proved (he had a Jude ancestor). Judes spread throughout the whole Europe and that 1.5% of northern african haplogroups in whole Europe represent just that. But Judes were also in southern italy, dude. And southern italy has more middle easterner blood than Northern italy thanks to the greek settlements. Unless you believe that the Greeks of Magna Graecia were a pure indoeuropean people. They were a bit mixed with middle easterners.
wann700 1 year ago
@wann700 Though I know that Italians and Greeks are indeed Caucasion I also know that Adolf Hitler was not of north African descent. The whiners have been trying to say similar things ever since he died. I reviewd the "science" applied to this latest claim and t is a joke. Some people are making money on the notion and I am sure that many of that "some" are jews.
Reverendjim1 1 year ago
Part 1
Why don' t you say that the Celtic haplogroup R1b is the most frequent in North Western italy while in North Eastern italy R1b is the most frequent but also the R1a (germanic or slavic) is also well represented (let's remember that the Po valley was Cisalpine Gaul before and Langobardia then) ? Why don' t you say that these haplogroups disappear in southern italy (Magna Graecia) ? Why don' t you say that the 0% Northern African haplogroup in southern italy is a fake ?
wann700 1 year ago
J2 is the the DNA of the ancient phoenecians meaning mordern day lebanese and also nearly all scientist and professors have said this DNA came from the Levant meaning lebanon syria parts of turkey and palestine and it is known by history that way before the romans and the greeks that the phoenecians were in control of the mediteranean
landza99 1 year ago
@landza99 They were around 7,000 years ago. I would be more wise to point out the fact that Italy and Greece's dna would suggest that if they do have dna in Italy even in Northern Italy it is their connection to the near East not just the East Mediterranean Lebanon is on the border. J2 is also found in Albania,it does exist in Spain but is it slight. Y is usually a male cromosome, but they have tested females in the Levantine part of West Asia minor.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@theHeliosphan1 the italians as the scientist has said that 9% to 36% have j2 dna in all regions of italy meaning there is no region in italy that doesnt have atleast 9% dna(j2) , in the greeks its even higher with 10% to 48% in every region i live in sydney australia and just by looking at greeks italians lebanese maltese turks and spanish people its sometimes hard to tell what nationality they are.These nationalities also carry some j1 dna especially maltese spanish and some greeks an italians
landza99 1 year ago
@landza99 I'm a Shia Muslim woman ha ha.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@landza99 Yes true. I know alot of people think i'm Greek they even say it about my Mum because i'm Lebanese and English mostly lol.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@landza99 Geneticist Pierre Zalloua has charted the spread of the Phoenicians out of the eastern Mediterranean by identifying an ancient type of DNA which some Lebanese, Syrians and Palestinians share with Maltese, Spaniards and Tunisians.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@landza99 I'd say Cypriots are the cloest to us in Europe that's right by us.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
I SUGGEST EVRYONE READS THIS In Europe, the frequency of Haplogroup J2 drops dramatically as one moves northward away from the Mediterranean. In Italy, J2 is found with regional frequencies ranging between 9% and 36%.[16] In Greece, it is found with regional frequencies ranging between 10% and 48%. Approximately 24% of Turkish men are J2 according to a recent study,[11] with regional frequencies ranging between 13% and 40%.[12] Combined with J1, up to half of the Turkish population are j
landza99 1 year ago
@landza99 The genetic marker which identifies descendants of the ancient Levantines is found among members of all of Lebanon's religious communities, he said. "It's a story that can actually unite Lebanon much more than anything else."
The marker, known as the J2 haplogroup, was found in an unusually high proportion among Lebanese, Palestinians and Syrians tested by Zalloua during more than five years of research. He tested 1,000 people in the region.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@theHeliosphan1 i know brother im lebanese my selve sunni muslim us lebanese just by looking at us have the same features and bodys etc
landza99 1 year ago
@theHeliosphan1 But yes I know I know about the Levant and the East Med. I think those people are the best looking in Europe also they forget Albanians Croatians and Georgians.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
J2 is found at very high frequencies in the peoples of the Caucasus - among the Georgians 21%[3]-72%,[4] Azeris 24%[5]-48%,[4] Ingush 32%,[7] Chechens 26%,[7] Balkars 24%,[13] Ossetians 24%,[7] Armenians 21.3%[4]-24%,[7] and other groups.[3][7]
landza99 1 year ago
Haplogroup J2 is found mainly in the Fertile Crescent, the Caucasus,[3] Anatolia, the Balkans, Italy, the Mediterranean littoral, the Iranian plateau, Central Asia, and South Asia.[1] More specifically it is found in Iraq,[23] Syria, Lebanon,[24] Turkey, Israel, Palestine, Greece, Italy and the Iberian Peninsula[25], and more frequently in Iraqis 29.7% [26], Lebanese 25%[27], Palestinians 16.8%[1], Syrians 22.5% [28], India 7%, Sephardic Jews 29%, Kurds 28.4%, turkey in palestine and palestine
landza99 1 year ago
i lived in italy for 3 years....there white, only people who disagree are a few ignorant idiots and at the end of the day who cares what a few idiots think...there not real just odd balls on the internet, in fact these dummies have probably never travelled and believe everything they see in the movies.cheers from the uk
sanzone7 1 year ago 51
@sanzone7 The people you've brilliantly described are probably americans. Unfortunately, the ignorance rate in America is very high... If I were american, I'd be really ashamed of my fellow countrymen, their stupid prejudices and false beliefs. As an italian, I was shocked when I knew that some american rednecks thought we were not white... How stupid ignorant people can be?!
MarcoMartini81 1 year ago 4
,,you probably only saw the Germanic Italians who are really more German genetically than Italic.
S0lidState 11 months ago
@sanzone7 Yes-I know-a few are dark
katinasvenska 11 months ago
@sanzone7 this is one of the reasons why I love UK and the British! Your comment rocks!
AmberFur 8 months ago
AWESOME VIDEO! TELL THE TRUTH and DISPEL THE LIES! ITALIANS ARE INDEED WHITE!
jgirl76 1 year ago 39
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@jgirl76 Everybody wants to be Italian. So many fake in the world, claiming and pretending they are Italians BTW who the hell cares?! All EU has mixed blood: UK has got Roman and Celtic blood as much as Italians do. FCUK the rest of the world still talking about races! Brits are getting married to beautiful people from North Africa, India, Japan... FCUK all the racists!
AmberFur 7 months ago
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AmberFur 7 months ago
@jgirl76 Dumb ass, They're Caucasian not white, There's a difference there can be white Italians, but majority of the are Tanish brown color. remember this White is not a race! in fact White is a Descriptions to a certain group of Caucasians. Fact: Did you know Arabs and Indian Hindus are Caucasian. Would you call them white? no because of their skin color same with Italians. Western Woman: " I like them tall, dark, and handsome = Italian man.
Bladeboy05 4 months ago
@seahorseofvenice Ok, nice!
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@seahorseofvenice Some of my Lebanese family have blonde hair blue eyes and fair skin some of then have tanned skin and curly hair.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
beauceronyx 1 year ago
@beauceronyx No, we have J1 and J2 dna that's it no Nordic R1 or African E1 our J2 East Med dna is 28-30 percent not 27 percent ( where did you get that from?!?) it says so in the link in my profile
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@theHeliosphan1
I read the article by Tom Perry : In Lebanon, DNA may yet heal rifts.
It only speaks about J2, as an ancient haplogroup found in Lebanon and other near countries.
It doesn't evocate E1b1b.
For all haplogroups in Lebanon, see Eupedia.com, tab Genetics : Distribution of European Y-chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) haplogroups by region in percentage.
At the end, they give in 2010 20 % of E in Lebanon.
beauceronyx 1 year ago
@beauceronyx Fine, i'll look!
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@beauceronyx The frequencies do not change in any religious groups it is equal that's what my website says.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@theHeliosphan1
Maybe !
The samples are so small to make them sure.
The distribution of the results to the entire population by probabilities is strangely not mathematical.
Algebra doesn't allow it because the risk is underrated.
Only one solution : sampling all lebanese men after suppressing family links.
beauceronyx 1 year ago
@beauceronyx That's what they did, I could say that about any country with any population. Read the website again, please! They are not small samples they were the same amount of people in all religious comunities the same amount of blood the same results it is not difficult to understand. Any idiot can say anything they want, it's up to genetics to tell the truth!
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@theHeliosphan1
I read again the article.
I persist in invalidating the genetics results anywhere in the world because of the low-sized samples
In Lebanon, there are about 4 millions inhabitants.
Only 1,000 people were tested among Lebanese, Palestinians and Syrians, just to reveal the J2 haplogroup.
It's mathematically inconsistant.
An interesting sample is about 10 % of the entire population, but not enough for a mathematical validation...
beauceronyx 1 year ago
@beauceronyx And i'm reading again what you are saying, they tested more than 1,000 people there are just under four million in Lebanon, they could test the whole population it would be the same I would bet money on that fact. Since when do people test the whole country when they test genetics? it's not just to reveal J2 it's J1 AND J2 and we have both, I could print out other websites ( apart from wiki ) to confirm this, My point is they have tested the same amount of people from all religious
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@theHeliosphan1
OK, man !
I don't share your point of vue because I'm a mathematician.
So, i don't believe in sampling.
But, it's just my opinion...
beauceronyx 1 year ago
@beauceronyx No, you just want to argue for the sake of arguing the population will be the same just don't argue and listen to what i am saying
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
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theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
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@beauceronyx Groups so that is the basic outline of our genetics in all religious groups the same dna test were found in Palestine Syria Jordan Turkey Algeria and Tunisia these people out of Arabs share the med dna in all religious sects. Don't argue with me about the quantity and listen to what I am saying.....
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@beauceronyx May I ask what country you hail from? What exactly do you look like?
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@beauceronyx They found it in all religious sects too not just the Cathlics in Lebanon ( liars and fakes ) but in Shia and Sunni and Christian Orthodox sects I am proud to be part of the Alpine and Middle Eastern race! Just read the link in my profile they already have done dna tests
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@beauceronyx Sorry, lol I mean they have found the same DNA in Muslim Shia and Sunni sects and also Christians who are Orthodox everyone in Lebanon is the same no matter what religion.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
@theHeliosphan
The haplogroups are the same in any communauty.
Only the frequencies change...
beauceronyx 1 year ago
@FoziaAbdi
Because they refuse the truth, as saverioborghese, the author of the video, who is falsifying the results.
See them at Eupedia.com, the European Genetics..., country by country and it is clearly evident that E1b1b is in higher frequencies : 11 % in Italy : 11 % in the North, 10 % in the Centre, 18 % in the South, 17,5 % in Sicily and only 10 % in Sardinia.
Don't forget that before 11000 BC Sicily and Tunisia were joined so people moved in the two ways...
beauceronyx 1 year ago 2
LOL
AllTheSame711 1 year ago
(PS) Any variation in the selection of a given trait can trigger in a a few generations the change of its frequency without the need of a different origin or admixture with other populations.
heathmoor 1 year ago
Yeah that is because humans are extremely mutative. You can many people in a single population born mutatively with the same trait without it coming from a single founder.
In fact, the matter of which it came so quickly in a population would have to imply that there was more than one founder in the population.
Mutations are interesting as they can reoccur again and again.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@TheRadicalRyushin J1 isn't a Northern African DNA it's a Levantine DNA, so it shows you know zip.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
No it is not. It is a random mutation. So you don't know zip unless you wish to disprove evolution. Hmm?
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
(2/2) North African ancestral population are referred as "Moors", a clear denigrative term. Biassed exhibition of portraits of Italians with fair skin and clear eyes as representative of the population of South Italy to support no possible genetic relation between the Italians and the North Africans. Whereas there isn't direct correlation between skin color and genetic background. Skin color is 1 among many inheritable traits that can be selected for or against.
heathmoor 1 year ago
Moors are distinctively refer to as Arab-Berber mix people though in reality they are Berbers who have adopted Arabic. Culturally almost all Muslim or African people are regarded as Moors by Europeans including the Muslim populations of Indonesia, which were called Moors by the invaded Portuguese.
It is the same as the Arabs and Muslims (West Asia and Africa) calling us Franks.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
(1/2) I've reported this video as inappropriate. I think it favors skin color as a sign of national identity. I don't think to be inappropriate because of its denying of any relation between the Italians and North Africans, which might be proved true after consistent studies, but rather because the color of the skin is treated as a matter of national identity. Dark skin color is not considered as "representative Italian population". North African ancestral population are referred as "Moors"...
heathmoor 1 year ago
There isn't much that North Africans and Italians have in common.
You are using a specific gene from the Y-Chromosome (J1) to distinguish people.
That trait comes from a mutations. Mutations are reoccurring and humans are extremely mutative. You could have someone who is Inuit with J1 and with both of his parents lacking that gene.
What does that say about your knowledge? Zip.
I am the Radical Ryushin, everything I say is the truth for I am the Radical Ryushin. You can agree or be wrong.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@TheRadicalRyushin Thank you for being so unnecessarily rude to me! Berbers have no ties to Syria whatsso ever, they are Moorish Arabs and Syrians are Medish Arabs. There are some Bedouin tribes in Jordan. The Phoenicians were from the Greater Levant, which was mostly just Western Asia, Lebanese people have mostly J1 DNA at least 70-75 percent their J2 genetics is 20-30 percent . There has also been false claims that it is only the Cathlics who carry these genes, more bullshit!
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
You deserve more than that. You have no idea what kind of a hell I shall have in store for you when you die. MWAHAHAHAHA!
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
The Semitic DNA that the Phoenicans have is J1 that's the most I'd say 70-75 percent of our genetic make up is that. The rest is J2 which is also Semitic but they can have it in the Eastern Mediterranean. Like Italians and Greeks and all that might have 3-4 percent and Lebanese Syrians and Palestinians have it 20-30 percent. Lol. Others like Turks and Armenians and Azeris will have it too. or traits of it. The Berbers are from Morocco.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
Berbers are from all of North Africa, before then they as an Afro-Asiatic people have ancestry ties to Syria.
Don't be so damn ridiculous to ignore what I say. Put my words into the input of your mind and act as though you are discussing with me and not simply speaking over me.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@TheRadicalRyushin I have not even stated the difference between Northern and Southern Italy, they're European not Arabs so in all sides of the country there won't be much J genetics anyway. I am a Awalite Shia Muslim, I could trace my family back centuries they were the 74th people to immigrate there, now there are just over 4 million people in Lebanon, there you go, plus I have just as many dark skinned and black haired people in my Mum's side that bloodline as blonde haired blue eyed people
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
You are an idiot trying to argue with god. How shameful.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@TheRadicalRyushin Check the website in my profile and stop bickering.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
You are the one who is bickering, you stupid troll.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@TheRadicalRyushin You reacted to my comment, you stupid troll.
theHeliosphan1 1 year ago
If reacting to your comment makes me a stupid troll, then what does not reacting to your comment mean? LOL!
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@theHeliosphan1
In Lebanon, J1 only at 12-13 %, J2 at 23-24 % so 25-27 % for J.
E1b1b : 29-30 % !
For semitic history, see HistoryCentral channel... by a real semit, who knows the historical importance of E1b1b in Near East.
beauceronyx 1 year ago
Indo-Hittites divided into Aegean-Anatolians (Etruscans, Hittites, Minoans) and Indo-Europeans (Iranians, Indians, Germans, Celts, Italians, Russians, ect...)
The Indo-Europeans divided into two main groups with a third that emerge as a creole between the two. North Indo-Europeans (Germans and Balto-Slavs), South Indo-Europeans (Greeks, Indians, Armenians, and Iranians), and the mixture that became the Celto-Italic-Tocharian people. The Tocharians were the first to move out of this group.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
Nostratics divided into Indo-Caucasian, Uralo-Siberian, and Japonic-Altaic people.
Indo-Caucasian had emerged as a creole or blend of the early Proto-Uralo-Siberian (Finns) and Japonic-Altaic (Turk, Mongol, Japanese) people due to their proxy of living between the two. Eventually as the Altaic people migrated East, the Indo-Caucasian people began to develop as a distinctive people and then started to divided into Indo-Hittite and Pontic-Caucasian people (Circassian and Georgian people).
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
The Origins of the Latin People:
Lets start at the beginning, between 18 and 15 thousand years ago, a group of East-Sudanic Nilo-Saharan emigrated out of Egypt into West Asia. In West Asia they divided into two groups, one traveled East into Tibet (Chinese, Apache-Navajo, Thai, Filipino, Malaysian, and Vietnamese People) and the other traveled North into the Caucasus. The one that migrated North quickly divided into two, Nostratics and Afro-Asians (Arabs, Egyptians, Berbers, and Cushites).
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
Genes are not useful for anything other than immediate relationships (100 to 500 years), however things start getting fuzzy if you go further back.
Alterations in genes (such as the emergence of J1 or E3b or whatever) are results of mutations. Mutations occur randomly, which means they occur based on probability. If something comes based on probability, it is likely to come again. Which means someone in the world without E-M81 parents is being born with the mutation of having E-M81.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
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BLANK2525 1 year ago
@daehoidareht- The idea that Greeks are somehow related to Somalis/Berbers has been shown to be false.
1947studebaker1 1 year ago
@1947studebaker1
Eupedia.com, the European Genetics.
Results in 2010 : Y-DNA of E1b1b in Greece reaches 27 % and 50 % in South Greece.
beauceronyx 1 year ago
@FoziaAbdi May be your descended from african blood you should worry about canada fast growing non white population from Asia and Africa .You 'll live long enought to see the so called canadian mongrel race turning black and Asian.
So don't worry about the descendants of other nations when you have something nice to look forward to when your family descendants WILL turn Black !
ddm3542 1 year ago
Long live to the south of Italy, or better, to the Two Sicilies Kingdom, but Sicily wants to be independent, and so, long live to the Kingdom of Naples and the indipendent Republic of Sicily! Southern Italians were and are always arabs, WE ARE NOT ITALIANS !
CesarioFriskone 1 year ago
@CesarioFriskone your out of your mind.The arabs got their asses kicked out into the sea by the Christain Normans.You are obviuosly not an Italian youy arer a shill asshole.
daehoidareht 1 year ago
@daehoidareht What fuck do you know about this??? Are you Italian??? You're a stupid donkey, you know nothing about Southern Italian history! I come from a little country near Naples and if you allow, I know my history more than you. In the North of Italy before the birth of Jesus there were Celtic people who had conquered all the northern part of Italy, instead in the south there were Greeks and after Jesus' birth after Roman power, there were Arabs and Normans, too!!
CesarioFriskone 1 year ago
@CesarioFriskone I know one thing for sure you are a stupid asshole.I know much about itlaina history.Shutup and go screw your mother.
daehoidareht 1 year ago
@daehoidareht Die!!! Better being faggot than being an asshole like you!!!
CesarioFriskone 1 year ago
@CesarioFriskone CORNUTO!
daehoidareht 1 year ago
@daehoidareht Ma sei italiano grande pezzo di merda???
CesarioFriskone 1 year ago
@CesarioFriskone Ha finito cretino?
daehoidareht 1 year ago
@CesarioFriskone RICCHIONE! FROCIO! FINOCCHIO! STRONZO VAFFANCULO!
daehoidareht 1 year ago
@CesarioFriskone here is some history.You were born from a sow's ass.figlio di puttana
daehoidareht 1 year ago
@daehoidareht So, I wanna tell you that people living in South Italy has got Arab blood into their DNA, opposite of the rest of Italian people. In the end we shouldn't effectively Arabs all right, but we have some DNA parts into our blood!! Understand now!??! Ah, and be educated next time, don't offend other people before talking, dumbass donkey!!!
CesarioFriskone 1 year ago
@CesarioFriskone If I am a donkey than you are donkey shit.Now shutup and go screw your sister.
daehoidareht 1 year ago
@daehoidareht Azz io dovrei finirla e perdipiù io sarei un cretinoo?!?! Quando mi hai attaccato tu in inglese dicendo solamente stronzate, non mi hai nemmeno attaccato dicendo cose sensate, grande testa di cazzo, io sarei un cretino?!?? Mah certa gente vige qui sopra -.-""... ah comunque volevo chiederti una curiosità: come cazzo fai ad essere ancora vivo qui su youtube e a rispondere anche ai miei commenti se il tuo canale è stato bloccato, quando ci vado su, non mi fa accedere!!!!
CesarioFriskone 1 year ago
@daehoidareht DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS, DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS, DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS, DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS, DAEHOIDAREHT'S MOTHER LOVES MAKING ME A LOT OF BLOWJOBS
CesarioFriskone 1 year ago
@CesarioFriskone Really? she has been dead for 25 years,but it figures a sorry pathetic piece of shit like you would have to relay on a dead person,because no live person would go near you pezzo di merda .Now go and bend overand let the donkeys and dogs ass fuck you.You ciucciacazzi (dicksucker),testa di cazzo(dick head) fottiti (go fuck yourself).You faggot.
daehoidareht 1 year ago
. #3: I've seen plenty of Italians with olive skin, dark eyes and hair. Where the hell are all the dark eyed dark haired and olive skinned Italians at ? Are they hiding out somewhere in Italy? LOL
BiracialGirl1977 1 year ago
#2: My mother has Brown eyes and olive skin and The Roman nose, and none of these people look any thing like her. it's funny how the poster got pics of mostly blond haired and either Blue, Green,or gray eyes, it almost seems like the poster is trying to say a true Italian mostly has Blond hair and light colored eyes and anything thing else isn't really how a true Italian looks.
BiracialGirl1977 1 year ago
@BiracialGirl1977 its mixed. some whiter than others some tan. ceaser was white its documented sense ancient times.
TAKEMARU666 1 year ago
#1: It's funny cause my mother is Italian and German Grand mother was 100% German and my grand father on my mothers side was straight off the boat from Calabria, Italy he had Black hair green eyes and my mother came out with Jet Black curly hair (Big curls not afro like. the kind of curly where the shorter it is the straighter it appears and the longer it is the curlier it appears)
BiracialGirl1977 1 year ago
your are full of yourself.
teslaglobal 1 year ago
those southern italians are white . They are aryan just like everyone else in europe .The only people who think theyre not white are Italo- Americans who want to fit in wifh Mexicans,Puerto Ricans etc. Just because the italian language is similar to spanish doesn't change anything,Language doesn't change PHYSICAL RACE. If it did change race than the English aren't "White"because they spoke Latin for 400 years. Nuff said.
mikallink 1 year ago
@mikallink don't use the word "aryan" so easy, becouse the true aryans are not swedens nor slaves, but Iranians. Iran = land of aryan. Aryans had lighter skintone, it's true, but had dark hair and eyes.
0989aiko 1 year ago
@0989aiko fair enough, but either way euros and iranians are of the same stock and share the common trait of fair skin.light or dark hair does not mean you are less or more caucasian. if it did than dark haired swedes or whomever are less caucasian than are lighter haired swedes or spaniards or russians or whatever.
mikallink 1 year ago
arab influence in southern italy? you mean african berber otherwise known as black. The Moors people. Gosh.
Benkotter 1 year ago
very funny video and even funnier comments. HAPLO this HAPLO that man the world of scince has really got you guys twisted... TRUTH (if you can handle it) YOURE ALL BLACK yes its true YOURE ALL BLACK. we don't wantcha but we got cha. your summin' like the f*^k'd up half retarded cousin..
LOWERY00 2 years ago
Your video is cute, but incorrect and frankly, quite desperate. Bottom line is that the CGS study that shows the subaharan haplogroup also shows the 2nd largest concentration of black genetics in Europe occurs in...Italy. They took a 1000 person control group. I dont know why you dont like this, but the truth of the matter is, there is no pure race anywhere.
DBFreely 2 years ago
it's impossible. The largest concentration must be in Spain or in Greece. Italy was influenced by arabs very little, just in some southern regions. Watch my video "are souther europeans white" please... it explains everything...
0989aiko 2 years ago
I believe in blood and in history. Southern italians are arabs...
deepenhancer 2 years ago
Only Sicily had a strong Arabic influence and indeed Sicily is a region with a special status in Italy. Central Italy was never dominated nor invaded my arabs. On the contrary it was invaded by Germans.
0989aiko 2 years ago
I'm from Sicily and I say the influence of arabic culture arrived also to other southern regions like Puglia, Campania, Calabria, Sardinia and Southern Lazio.
deepenhancer 2 years ago
what the fuck!? Study history, Arabs stayed most of all in Sicily.
0989aiko 2 years ago 2
you ignorant
deepenhancer 2 years ago
@deepenhancer you are ignorant!!! You have also a special status in Italy, differently from Puglia and Campania!
0989aiko 1 year ago
@0989aiko We were under the same Kingdom so shut up!
deepenhancer 1 year ago
@0989aiko We were under the same Kingdom so shut up!
deepenhancer 1 year ago
@deepenhancer when? In 1600 with the Borbones? Arabs went to Sicily but stayed there not so much, but more than in the rest of Italy
0989aiko 1 year ago
Same thing happens in Asia. In Europe, everybody does not want to relate with haplogroup E. In Asia, everybody does not want to relate with haplogroup C and haplogroup D. Europeans are proud of haplogroup R, Asians are proud of haplogroup O.
TheXanian 2 years ago
Great Video but no need to show only blonds my mom is from Molise and dad fro Puglia we all have very white skin much to white as i need a tan lol. From north to south there are Italians with brown hair and brown eyes like real Romans and some with blond and blue/green eyes. We are Italian we civilized the world including the German barbarians and the uncivilized French Gauls. Be proud to be Italian there is nothing better and people who disrespect us only because they wish the could be Italian.
Imperatore7777 2 years ago
Wow, your misinformation is amazing
truthnonfiction 2 years ago
well its only obvious that " SOME " Italians are going to be albino im sorry i meant goth. but please refer back to the history of the ROMANS they clearly depicted themselves as anything but BLONDE HAIR, AND BLUE EYES. they usually refereed to those people as Brittunculi and Goths. =D so with that im sure it is a fact that Italy has been recently invaded by the goths.
PharaohII 2 years ago
The goths in Italy were destroyed by the (eastern) Romans.
saverioborghese 2 years ago
@saverioborghese False, Gothes won the Byzantine, ignrant! Old Romans had white skin, but dark hair and eyes, they belonged to the haplogroup J2, the same of odl Greeks and Persians. The true aryans. Bye
0989aiko 1 year ago
@saverioborghese
The Catholic church was built by the same aristocracic familes that had been in Rome since the Republic. Not Goths lol!
Gonzoidzz 1 year ago
Actually the Lombards were pacified by the Franks and Charlemagne as a result became crowned by the Latin Pope, the Holy Roman Emperor.
Plus it is the land and its environment that draws out the factors of mutation and those mutations is what makes people what they are in appearance. So even if someone Chinese settled in Venice, over centuries, Mr. Mao would begin to look like Mussolini. In other words, the land is what makes you, not your blood.
Italy makes you Italian, not Roman blood.
TheRadicalRyushin 1 year ago
@PharaohII julius ceaser was pale or very white looking its pointed out in the old writings. but ceaser was fro milan i believe so it would make sense
TAKEMARU666 1 year ago
@TAKEMARU666 lmao YOUR SMOKING METH!! and someone lied to you. WHY WOULD MANY ROMAN HISTORIANS WRITE ABOUT THE FEATURES OF THE GOTHS AND THE BRITTUNCULIS AS BEING PALE AND HAIRY if the " ROMANS " WHERE THE SAME COLOR or THE SAME TYPE OF PERSON.......... LMAO FUCKING LAME!! go lie to a child who doesn't read like an elementary student.
PharaohII 1 year ago
@PharaohII dude you obviously dont know what italian is its part of europe your retarded. nordics have tan people aswell this is why the world is so lame cuz people like you who arnt capable of logical thinking. northern italy has tons of light skinned people southern is tan just liek alot of countries.
TAKEMARU666 1 year ago
@TAKEMARU666 also we al lcome from africa originally for your small brain.
TAKEMARU666 1 year ago
@TAKEMARU666 just cause its part of europe you think they are white then why is that EGYPT IS PART OF AFRICA BUT YOU BITCHES REFUSE TO ACCEPT THEM AS BLACK!! you know what YOUR CHOOSING AND YOUR CLAIMS ARE FALSE CAUSE YOUR GOING AGAINST THE TEACHING OF THE ROMANS WHO CLEARLY DEPICTED THEMSELVES AS A DIFFERENT RACE THEN NORTHERN EUROPEANS!! YOU CAN HATE IT ALL YOU WANT BUT IT IS TRUE!!
PharaohII 1 year ago
@PharaohII i accept egypt was black,...... and also yes southern italians are very tan originally but did you know julius ceaser was very white its recorded by tons of people at the time. and also race isnt by color. and italian and greek skulls and nazel cavaties resembl;e nordic type not african,
TAKEMARU666 1 year ago
@TAKEMARU666 another key factor is ancinet egyptians are thought to be very dark atleast the ones in power. so at the time italians looked white to them.
TAKEMARU666 1 year ago