BBC Prog Rock Britannia (8 of 9)

[kaewonf8]

Uhhm, ya Phil, they WERE talking about YOU, ya fucking self-indulgent pompous wanker!

[greatjob13]

whats the song at 3:00?

[Nigelxman]

"The British isles were the only place they fell for it?" Wow, what complete ignorance.

[sebadrum16]

Just got through listening to Red, no wonder why Kurt Cobain was influenced by it. Fripp's guitar was all over it!

[joctheviper1]

I disagree with Rick... The reason I love prog bcuz I grew up with Beethoven, Mozart Brahms... Rock should be melded with ALL musical styles.. LONG LIVE ROCK BE IT DEAD OR ALIVE!!!

[BoovTheAlmighty]

Song at 3.00?

[julianwass]

@BoovTheAlmighty Terry Riley - Poppy Nogood and the Phantom Band (off of Rainbow in Curved Air)

[Nobodie92]

Red kicked some serious ass one of my favorite prog albums. Yes selled out unfortunatley I don't recognize the 18 minute closer to the edge to the 4 minute owner of a lonely heart. It's sad to see how prog just completley died in the late 70's. It just shows how music is ever changing and with it genres will go as well replaced by new ones. Some people will learn to adapt others will become butthurt.

[annikee59]

@Brianthesuperdog THANK YOU FOR REALITY HERE!

[Zeitgeist74]

Haha! Chris Squire lost his cool with that gelled up hair and outfit. And, OH MY GOD....John Anderson looked like an outright broad during that live clip of "Owner of a Lonely Heart"! LOL

[dermotoblong]

you see what genesis developed into tho, and youve got some sympathy with punk!

[Zardoz151]

When I saw Yes with those gay outfits,playing 3 chords,I almost stopped watching.

[thecool9]

this is sorta depressing... :(

[PaulThe123]

@thecool9 yeah i know

[viinikellari]

6:50 It's the sound that I've always been confused about. It doesn't sound even like a instrument. Was it so unbeliavably cool to use totally digitally lifeless sounds beacause they were never heard before? 1980's is almost like a global bad LSD trip caused by global LSD use in the 1960! :-oo

[PaulThe123]

80's sucks dick : '(

[cutis1000]

Punk killed prog rock. Death to punks!

[Yehbytheway]

Music like rap and punk and metal is just a way of people expressing themselves when nobody else will listen.

People get angry and need to express themselves.

Just the same as we need a bit of escapism have a spliff and listen to something wonderful.

[TheGreaterGood80]

The cool thing about today is you are more likely to meet kids who love prog AND punk, as well as metal, folk, psychedelia, Southern, etc.

People aren't really putting themselves into musical factions as much anymore

[LucianoGallagher]

@TheGreaterGood80 Yes, sure, but don't you think that being into punk and prog is very contradicting?? For instance, I like all sorts of rock music, but it like prog and classic rock (Beatles, Stones) the most...

[TheGreaterGood80]

@LucianoGallagher sorry for the late reply, but no I don't see it as a contradiction. Both prog and punk are about self-indulgence, but from different directions. Prog is about indulging in complex musical arrangements, concepts and artistic lyrics. Punk is about indulging in frustration, attitude and raw energy. When I was a hardcore punk kid I had no problems weirding out my bandmates by telling them I got my bass tone from Chris Squire and John Wetton.

[ForceMaximus84]

Bedford kind of makes a good point about "the tension", especially with bands like Arcade Fire and Flaming Lips vs Nickelback and Finger Eleven. As for Coughlan mentioning how Punk "never going anywhere else":

uuhhhmmmmmm..........The Ramones? Television?

[ForceMaximus84]

@ForceMaximus84 I meant Bruford. Sorry.

[kigawman]

LONG LIVE PROG ROCK, KILL PUNK ROCK!! Because of this documentary, I have now began and also amplified my extreme anger with all punk rock douchbags!

[LucianoGallagher]

@kigawman Please, don't become an angry douchebag, cause' you're becoming one of em'!!! ;)

[TrygviMurt]

So ... I guess Genesis really sold out, huh?

[LucianoGallagher]

@TrygviMurt Yup, sadly...

[flammaster]

punk was manufactured by the record industry like boy bands because people who like good music don't buy the clothes that go along with it.

[marcello09]

Brilliant, mate! Thanks for uploading :-)

[goonercrew08]

Genesis survived because they became a pop band.

[hrmerr]

Blues, Punk, New Wave, Funk, Hard/Metal, Classical, Celtic, Synth...I always made my way back to Prog. Prog gets into your soul.

[florsails]

where is pink floyd?

[remnrone]

@florsails psychedelia, not prog...

Great band though

[bodoboi]

Suddenly, Bucks Fizz are almost OK ! Peter Sinden as pop composer - it all makes sense in a politely subversive way. kudos

[metalheadnick555]

I kind of hope someone does a documentary on neo-prog. I know it wasn't extremely popular, but I do think it kind of redeemed prog in the 80s

[LunarKnight229]

What's the song at 2:57?

[flaneller]

He's written some great stuff, but Tony Banks gets on my nerves a bit from 4:27 on! First off, he looks, dresses and speaks like a Tony Blair impersonator, but more importantly it's his smug attitude that Genesis survived because they were more a "songwriting" band than Yes and ELP who were more "playing" bands. Rubbish! The reason they survived is that they (with some notable exceptions) sold out under Collins.

[olliespike2]

Why does Phil Collins always appear as such a sad little guy...so ego bashed and bitter.

great drummer though..!

[flaneller]

@olliespike2

Totally agree. I think he really cares what the "rock press" say about him, whereas virtually everyone else in this doc seems to have got over it and can laugh about it.

[EccentricElectric1]

Music in all it styles should be enjoyed and not looked down upon. You can still see the resentment in some of there faces like Punk took there life from them. Take Bill Bruford, i think he is a fantastic drummer and i both Yes and King Crimson albums, but i cannot agree with his attitude. Every style of music has an era that comes and goes when the younger generation wants somthing different.

[negtype13]

It just shows how HARDCORE Rush is..they were able to play ALL of the progressive elements (at a harder metal edge) at a time (via 1977) when Progressive was seen as boring, pretencious drivel, due to the Punk movement. Not only were they able to "weather" it. Their first 7 dates of the U.K. are Sold Out. As are the next 14 dates in Birmingham that February (not even 8 months later)

It was, in Many, respects, their PRIME!! Meanwhile ALL of the other progressive bands were DEAD or DYING!!

[MandrakeMoorglade]

@negtype13 But Rush was a Canadian band. The backlash against prog really hit England more than anywhere else. Prog was still pretty popular in the states and in Canada throughout the late 70s and even in the 80s when the neo prog acts hit.

[metalheadnick555]

Genesis and Rush are the only two bands that really weathered the decline of prog really well... they were amazing both as progressive bands and "poppier" bands. Although the "middle ground" (neo-prog) bands such as Marillion definitely proved to be amazing and keep the spirit alive

[thegarmentroom]

phil collins is such a hypocrite did'nt he do the same with brand x

[flaneller]

@thegarmentroom

Yes he did! But I suppose he would argue that that was allowed in a jazz-rock context but not in a prog one!

[Dannymusic1999]

That's why the Punk generation can just go fuck off,... cavemen.

[wbabojo]

Van Der Graaf Generator?

[superdude13666]

@wbabojo yeah I know right, what about Pink Floyd, Rush, Gong or Gentle Giant?

but still the best prog doc i've seen.

[lamecasuelas2]

@superdude13666 yeah, i guess that is almost impossible to include all the bands, is too much like in a concert, is impossible for a band to play all the songs that the people like, there´s allways that´s says,"oh my favorite song is one fron the b side of a japanese version of that single" ,but you know, it still is a very kick ass documentary

[funkberto]

@wbabojo

yes PETER HAMMILL, where are you?

[Wormeatennightapple]

@wbabojo Wondering the same but maybe in the BBC Forgotten-ignored-marginal Britannia

[zismoura]

@wbabojo Van Der Graaf Generator are conspicuous by their absence. Robert Fripp played guitar on most of 'Pawn Hearts' which was produced by George Martin. Why not even a mention?

[captainshadowdreamer]

if you find part 9 please post it.

[KingGrizzlebeard]

they play a snippet of The Moody Blues in this clip(8:39-8:51) , but don't mention them throughout the documentary . I think they deserve more credit for their earlier efforts .

[p717]

I know. Thinking is the best way to travel....and They're not mentioned. Sucks.

[drunksingsheep]

If one of those little turds ever spit on me or my camera, I can absolutely guarantee, it would be thee LAST thing that worthless no-talent trash would EVER do!

[drunksingsheep]

Except for "The Damned" Punk Sucks! Always did, always will.

[bluntobject07]

Thanks to both of you for uploading these in the first place. And yes, please get part 9 up!

[GeorgeLupine3]

I uploaded these videos on my old account: I was waiting to see if YouTube would give me my old channel back before I reuploaded it. I'm not sure if I should post it all again now or just part 9.

[urckrecords]

Terry Riley! not likely to find a single filmmaker out here in Hollywood who's hip to his music, let alone progressive rock!

thanks for posting this

[bowdlerizer007]

thanks for telling me that that's terry riley. I thought the passage was fascinating and decided to download it but did not know who the artist is and what the title is. thanks again.

[urckrecords]

from Persian Surgery Dervishes if I'm not mistaken

[AnchovyRun]

Where did you find this in the first place?

[gingerb91]

It has been uploaded to Youtube before, and I had downloaded it (except for part 9) and just found it on my computer. I figured that it belongs up on here.

[AnchovyRun]

Yeah man thanks its a great series, too bad about part 9 though.

[bowdlerizer007]

what is the name of that instrumental that starts at the timemark of 2:55 on the video? thanks for reading this.

[Dannymusic1999]

@gingerb91 do you have part 9?

[gingerb91]

@Dannymusic1999 Sorry, but I don't. I think it may be up on Youtube somewhere else though.

[lamecasuelas2]

@gingerb91 cool!! this is general culture