NEWS STORY - Chiropractic & Ear infections

[ProneSyndrome]

Antibiotics work if you have a bacterial ear infection especially of the middle ear, if you don't treat it you could end up with meningitis or loss of hearing. I know I've had them a few times from the surf and at this very moment.

Many ear infection that children suffer from stem from a virus which antibiotics do little but if they get it from a bacterial infection chiropractor can do little to attack the bugs eating away into their ear canal.

[Andy94Bonner]

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[happinesson]

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[be2008real]

Why do people fight against Chiropractic so much? Its a waste of energy.They afraid that people will be 2 well not sick enough?DCs dont wish people get subluxated, its part of life. We fall down get banged up get adjusted get up & keep going. Other people get banged up & dont even think they could be out of alignment or what that means 4 thier Nervous system.Fewer people know the vast roll the nerveous syst has on health of every cell in the body. Get adjusted from a good DC & see it 4 yourself.

[JaguarSTR]

@skepticat1 Oh piss off, sicko!

[bikaholic1]

My 5 yr old was tortured w ear infections since he was 7mo. Always on antibiotics and that gave him colic. My PA insisted i take him to her chiro. He NEVER gets ear infections now since being chiropracted. Chiropractic is a miracle in my book.

[dormant111]

@zeno2712

Sorry, I accidentally posted as zeno cos we sometimes share a computer. That's why I removed the comment, which was about my own child's ear infection being cured by eating apples.

[bikaholic1]

@zeno2712 I could give a toss about your skepticism mate. My PA suggested It and it worked. My son had chronic ear infections and now he doesnt after chiropractic. End of story and no more antibiotics. But I have to be honest, I didn't think it would work. In the chiros office I met at least 10 parents whose kids were helped too. It works!

[chadhedges]

Unless you yourself have a D.C., M.D., D.O., or Ph.D in a biological or medical science you have no right to assume that a Chiropractor is a quack!!! Most of you ignorant people couldn't even obtain a bachelors degree in the type of sciences that is needed before becoming a health care professional!!! Quit assuming you know what qualifications a profession has before doing your homework...

[zeno2712]

@chadhedges

Oh dear. I'll ignore the personal slur.

The question is whether there is robust scientific evidence for the treatment of conditions like ear infections. In the UK, it is against their CoP to make claims not backed by robust scientific evidence. The GCC, on advice from chiros, concluded there is no such evidence for ear infections (and a plethora of other conditions). I made no such determination.

[pixelguy09]

@gern74 eustachian tube = 1 possible mechanism for chiro to affect ear. 2 of the 4 muscles of the Eust. tube: levator veli palatini + salpingopharyngeus are innerv. by the vagus nerve -> motor/sensory eff/aff pass through the neck. Also root entry CN VIII can be affected by changes in neural canal (it's been demonstrated on MRI). "Looking in the eardrum" shows you the result of the problem, not the cause. When the car backfires should the mechanic check the tailpipe?

[zeno2712]

@hfdc

The recently published Bronfort et al. report, commissioned by the General Chiropractic Council, the statutory regulator in the UK, having looked at all the quality evidence for a range of conditions found no evidence to recommend chiro for otitis media.

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 proof again that one of the biggest adversaries of chiropractic are it's own regulatory agencies. apparently there isn't a chiropractor among them. pathetic.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

On the contrary, the GCC committees and Council are packed with chiros of all sorts.

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 not all sorts, they apparently lack any genuine ones.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

Who gets to define what a 'genuine' chiro is? You?

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 d.d. palmer, the discoverer of chiropractic, and his son, b.j. palmer, known as the developer of chiropractic, defined chiropractic. if you can define the chiropractic definition of the term "subluxation", i will concede that you have some some point of reference. if you cannot, then you have no basis in knowledge from which to comment whatsoever.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

My knowledge or ignorance is irrelevant. But even chiros can't seem to agree what it is or means. However, it's the GCC that have defined the VSC as:

'...an historical concept but it remains a theoretical model. It is not supported by any clinical research evidence that would allow claims to be made that it is the cause of disease or health concerns.'

Perhaps you should be trying to persuade them, not me?

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 that is a lie. get off your backside, and ask the palmer college of chiropractic for dr. b. j. palmer's clinical research, which, by the way, was substantiated by an m.d. on staff for whatever that's worth, though i wouldn't presume that an m.d.'s word means anything in matters of health.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

What's a lie? That there is no evidence for a VSC? Again, you need to be persuading your chiro colleagues on the GCC. They seem pretty convinced about it.

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 chiros? in name only, which means they aren't. it is an increasingly common problem, especially for those who turn to such people expecting to receive chiropractic care, but instead receive same old useless therapeutics they just got from medics. actual chiropractors are the minority. some of these chiropractoids minimize use of the name from low self-esteem. rightly, and a pathetic lot they are, since they are neither chiropractor nor medic and get respect from neither.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

But the GCC is a UK statutory body, set up by an Act of Parliament. They decide what training someone must have done before allowed onto their register and it's illegal to call yourself a chiro unless your registered with them. But you say they are not proper chiros. Who is anyone supposed to believe?

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 As hiodr contends....UK chiropractic practice is worse than "pales" when compared to that of American Chiropractic doctors education and practice parameters. UK chiropractors unfortunately have a knee (GCC) on their neck. When the UK eventually sees chiropractic in all its glory, then the shakles will come off and the public will love chiropractic more than medicine...just as it is here in the U.S. Yeah Chiropractic !

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

How do you think that will happen?

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 the "vsc" as commonly touted has the working theory on which chiropractic began. it has long been disproven, since the 1920's, not by medical "experts", but by the pioneering research of b.j. palmer d.c., who found that nerve interference only originates in the upper cervical region at atlas-axis level.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

So, you agree with the GCC that there is no evidence for the VSC? But you say DD's son found that 'nerve interference' only originates at the top of the neck? I suspect there are many chiros who would disagree with you, so again, who gets to define what a 'real' chiro is? And why all the in-fighting between chiros?

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 no, just their definition of it. the vertebral subluxation exists. it's definition was corrected by dr. b.j. palmer. the subluxation is the basis for the practice of chiropractic. it is so common that individuals who are not subluxated are a rarity, unless, of course, under specific chiropractic corrective care. many of our institutions are not what they once were, and many that claim to teach chiropractic instead teach therapeutics which can never substitute for genuine correction.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

Wow! Do we all have subluxations? If we do, that sounds very serious - do they harm people? Do they kill people?

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 If a nerve root that carries vital infomation toi vital tissues is "choked off" by a vertebral subluxation or "whatever" causes ensuing inflammation to occur...is this scenario '...very serious..."? Can this situation "...harm people?" In your opinion if the deeper fibers of a nerve root which targets an organ or fibers of the autonomic chain ganglia choked-off by inflammation from vertebral distortion...Can this most serious lesion "...kill people?" You tell us.... Chiro. for all!!!!!

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

A good hypothesis. Do you mean that a subluxation (or an inflammation caused by a subluxation) actually physically interferes with nerve signals?

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 Have you ever viewed x-rays and MRI's, etc. which succintly show spines twisted in a manner that a 5 year old can pick out shuttered neuroforamens?

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

I thought VSC were so subtle that only a highly trained chiro could feel them or see them on x-rays? Are you saying that they are so obvious they can be detected by even a child and that they are just twisted spines?

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 LOL! Zeno, your not that complicated that we don't know where your going..."...spines twisted in a manner that a 5 year old child can pick out shuttered neuroforamens". "...shuttered neuroforamens" are caused by failure of spinal biomechanics; vertebral subluxations are a primary cause of failed biomechanics. We have confidence in you zeno...eventually you'll catch on. Ditch "them" join us! We (chiropractic) are the now and the future.

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

I'm afraid you're not convincing me. I still see no evidence for a VSC or that a 'specific, but gentle chiropractic adjustment' can fix them and hence all manner of ailments.

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 I'm afraid zeno...it may take some time for you to accept what millions have learned, recieved and, love chiropractic enough to refer to their friends, family, and community. Keep studying son, it will come to you soon, we have faith in you.

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

Ah! back to faith now! But please don't call me your son - sounds even more religious. :-)

Still no robust, repeatable, unbiased evidence? That's what would persuade me, but I've not seen any yet. Or do you think I should just take what you say as gospel truth?

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 "Sorry son". LMAO! zeno, you head case. LOL!

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

Do you think your insults help your case and help promote chiro as a 'caring, compassionate' profession?

Still no evidence?

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 Too late to try the "School Guidance Counselor " ploy zeno. Lest not forget that it's you who's the novice (stretched it for you) guest here; with out health professional credentials.

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

Still irrelevant and still no evidence.

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 get this, we're not trying to promote, sell, or convince. we're simply calling out lies when we see them. i don't give a rat's backside what you or anybody else believes. no doubt you can't understand this, but the truth doesn't need anyone's acknowledgment. it stands on it's own and requires no one's approval and waits on no one's justification. likewise those who speak it.

[JaguarSTR]

@hiodr You make so much more sense than zeno, who by the way makes no sense at all??? What the f%&% is he doing here in the first place? Like you, he's not a doctor, no visible or stated health care credetioals? Chiropractic is a necessity not an option. Medicine's drugs and surgery should be considered last resorts. Even the U.S. govt. takes this position. Where's the regulation and enforcement to curb Organized Medicine and Big Pharma?

[hiodr]

@JaguarSTR (what do you suppose hiodr stands for?) zeno is another person trying to take a stand with no knowledge , no proof, no experience, and most of all, no principle. just hot air. just another brainwashed parrot repeating what he heard some "experts" say. well, lenin was wrong. a lie, if repeated enough, does not become the truth. it's still a lie, i don't care how many self-proclaimed medical experts (failures) repeat it, or how often.

[JaguarSTR]

@hiodr I figured you're a DC cause you're very knowledgeable of chiropractic subject matter. Ya left zeno to spanking his willy...excellent medi-pharma lover kill.

[hiodr]

@JaguarSTR we've seen their type ever since. they demand proof by chiropractic's historic enemies that it is valid. how stupid is that? even if they did approve, what would the endorsement of a bunch of dope pushing failures who bury and bankrupt many of their patients signify? i don't think i would care for the approval of such a disreputable lot .

[JaguarSTR]

@hiodr Well put my man...well put. The only benefit I can see having zeno and skeptic being here is that they are not somewhere else trying to spread their medi-pharma filth. Keep the good word of chiropractic going hiodr.

[hiodr]

@JaguarSTR thanks. they are blind. wilfully so. they don't know that they also have health problems from nerve interference that nothing other than chiropractic can help. they do, and will suffer for their obstinant refusal to believe the truth.

[JaguarSTR]

@hiodr Last year 65% of U.S. bankruptcies were due to personal medical bills. How pathetic is that? The medi-pharma system is a huge parasite with its siphon stuck in peoples lives, sucking their vital juices of life and prosperity wilst immune from prosecution. Oh good chiropractic, please deliver us from this medical madness!

[hiodr]

@JaguarSTR it was intended to. though the media portray it as a gift from above, i consider it to be, overall , to be far more of a curse on society than a blessing.

[JaguarSTR]

@hiodr It's chiro docs the likes of you, 9pt9, and chiropractic47 that carry the torch for chiropractic. May g-d bless chiropractors. 

[hiodr]

@JaguarSTR the "emperor" has no clothes. about time we pointed it out, and let them turn tail and run holding their privates.

[JaguarSTR]

@hiodr LOL! Amen.

[zeno2712]

@JaguarSTR

Sorry! Is this a private website? Or are you setting yourself up as arbiter of comments?

Still red herrings and ad hominems, I see.

[JaguarSTR]

@zeno2712 Ya haven't lent anything constructive to this beautiful chiropractic vid...save a target for us to spit on. Go now boy, go up stairs to finish masturbating before yer parents find out ya websurfing.

[chiropractic47]

@JaguarSTR LO!! You kill me Jag.

[JaguarSTR]

@chiropractic47 Happy ya got a laf. Just reached the point where "zero zeno" and "skeptic-Aussie Ass" made no sense being here...without a good word lashing that is. Chiropractic saves lives!!

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 those who discovered it and developed it defined it. if someone wants to be a therapist yet call themself a chiropractor, they are misleading their patients.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

But there's still the problem that in the UK, it's what the GCC (remember, chiros are very well represented in the GCC) in conjunction with the chiro training schools define as chiropractic that allows them to call them selves chiros.

The question still remains: what do you think will change the GCC to allow only 'straight' (or maybe even NUCCA) chiros to call themselves chiros and ban everyone else?

[JaguarSTR]

@zeno2712 Certainly not you zeno. hiodr is a licensed doctor in the field of health highlighted by this video. You on the otherhand are not even a health professional. What gives? Are you an arm-chair doctor of chiropractic? I mean, what qualifications do you possess to dictate the variables germane to chiropractic in this discussion?

[zeno2712]

@JaguarSTR

Why this obsession with qualifications? Besides, I'm not defining what chiro is and what it isn't - the GCC haven't asked for my opinion or advice. It seems to be chiros that are declaring that there is no evidence for chiro for ear infections.

I don't suppose you've got any robust evidence? I'm sure the GCC would welcome it.

[JaguarSTR]

@zeno2712 The UK's Generall Chiropractic Council are wimps. This quasi chiropractic overseer has no scrupels compared to American Chiropractic know how.

[zeno2712]

@JaguarSTR

What do you mean?

[JaguarSTR]

@zeno2712 You know what I mean. Chiropractic in the UK is in its infantile stage. Feeling the pressure form the media, etc. has caused it to take on a submissive defensive posture. Here in the U.S. chiropractic is the 2nd largest and fastest growing of the primary health care providers (DC, DO, MD). Millions of Americans are utilizing chiropractic doctors as their primary care provider, escpecially for children. The paradigm shift is well on its way. Chiro. in the UK will entually be chic.

[zeno2712]

@JaguarSTR

The size or growth of chiro in the US or elsewhere is irrelevant.

As far as I can see, the GCC have declared that they will be guided by the scientific evidence (although it seems to have taken a few complaints and probing questions to make them do this).

Are you suggesting this was the wrong course of action? If so, should they ignore the lack of scientific evidence? What do you think will cause this paradign shift you're hoping for?

[JaguarSTR]

@zeno2712 We understand GCC's strategy in taking a "kiss their ass" stance when the pressure should be on for public understanding whast chiropractic is designed to do. Bring in the American Chiropractic councils to beef up/prop up UK chiropractic. Show the plethora of evidence supporting chiropractic not only in musculoskeletal issues but the plethora of visceral evidence supporting chiropractic....let's not "pussy foot' chiropractic in th UK. Chiropractic is great everywhere. Viva Chiropractic

[zeno2712]

@JaguarSTR

It's not the GCC's job to promote chiropractic. Individual chiros and the various chiro trade associations can promote it to their hearts content - as long as chiros keep within their statutory code of conduct, which includes only making claims that are backed up by robust scientific evidence.

And since the GCC didn't know what claims were backed up by robust scientific evidence, they commissioned five US chiros to find out.

What do you think US chiros could do in the UK?

[JaguarSTR]

@zeno2712 And who are these 5 chiros who are to determine chiropractic's "bounderies"? What are their affiliations? Are they actually "medipractors" (chiropractors well versed in an allopathic approach to chiropractic methodology rather than "True to chiropractic philosophy and principles otherwise known as Chiroprac"TIC" Doctors? You know where I going here...medicnes behind the scene manipulation of the publics perception of chiropractic; viewed through medicine shades. ChiropracTIC Only!

[zeno2712]

@JaguarSTR

It's easy to find out who the chiros are- but I'll leave that to you.

What about my question about what US chiro associations could do in the UK?

[hiodr]

@JaguarSTR once again jag, we have another know-it-all who knows absolutely nothing, who is here to tell us that what we know and experience, as well as see and hear from patients on a daily basis, is merely an illusion, and that this ignoramus who has never even opened a chiropractic textbook much less adjusted a person in their life, in fact whose knowledge and experience in matters chiropractic sums up to a, "professional zero with a professional rim knocked off", is somehow an authority.

[JaguarSTR]

@hiodr In otherwords zeno2712 is delusional...I'll buy that. The immense effectiveness of chiropractic, which we have all known for over 120 years, is finally seeing the light of day. You go chiropractic!

[zeno2712]

@JaguarSTR

It's odd that the GCC doesn't seem to agree with you.

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 The GCC will eventually evolve to agee with the American chiropractic paradigm. Chiropractic is on the cusp of full utilization. The old ineffective and deadly UK medi-pharma system (I refuse to call it health care) will be given a run for the money with chiropractic nipping at its heels.

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

It doesn't look that way over here. The GCC are (rightly) firmly entrenched in only considering claims that are backed by robust evidence and chiros are not making any significant inroads into our NHS, so it would seem likely that they will be forever in the healthcare wilderness.

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 Almost the exact words of the AMA then.... You see zeno, it's inevitable. Chiropractic for all!!!

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

Why is it inevitable and how will things change?

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 Chiropractic for all is inevitable due to chiropractic being the "truth" of healthcare. "Truth" eventually prevails, in other words...It's general knowledge that the body heals itself best under its own means. Pumping noxious poisonous chemicals and scalpeling out tissue is counter intuitive; driving disease deeper into the body eventually killing it (Coultere, PhD).

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

When you start talking about 'truth' and how 'truth' will eventually prevail, I get worried - it begins to sound more like a religion! I've personally very glad of the scalpel: it's saved the lives of several of my elderly relatives and allowed them to continue with long and fruitful lives - without the use of chiropractic. Or is that just an anecdote or two?

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 You entirely missed the point but best described allopathic's "reactive" methodology, in otherwords, how did your elderly relatives come to the point in their lives where surgery was inevitable? People under chiropractic care live healthier lives from birth to the box.

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 So when did knowing the 'truth" denote a religious moment? Perhaps your bouncing off other anti-chiro's "religious zeal" or 'religious fanatic angle? No such religious conotations from me...just pure science and good ol' patient testimonials.

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

I never said it did - but religious people keep going on about knowing the 'truth' and I get suspicious of anyone claiming to know the 'truth' - they usually are not open to their 'truth' being falsified.

Anyway, what's science are you referring to?

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 Again. the GCC doesn't know its asshole form its mouth.

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

I'm certainly not going to defend the GCC, but there are lots of chiros on their various committees. Their Chair and half their Council are chiros. 

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 The correct representation of "chiropracTIC" must be enforced by "chiropracTORS".

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 odd? that's one word for it. pathetic, disgusting, and false are three more. but then, often the worst end up in positions other than patient care. good in a way (for their would be patients) bad, as they purport to represent the profession, they, in fact, grossly misrepresent it.

[hiodr]

@JaguarSTR what do they have? words. what do we have? results. sooner or later results prove them liars and leave them to mumble their pseudo-scientific jargon to themselves because no one will listen to them anymore.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

Do chiros have anything more than just 'results' (by which I assume what they've seen with their own eyes)? When do you expect this epiphany? What pseudo scientific jargon?

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 i already answered this. go to palmer college and examine dr. palmer's chiropractic clinical research. for many, medicine has already proven itself a failure and unworthy of their trust, for some, it may take their life before they have the chance to figure out it was a mistake.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

Let's help each other here: you give me some links to whatever it is that convinces you that chiro is so essential to health and I'll give you some links to trials and sys reviews that show, when the more robust and unbiased evidence is examined, there is not of evidence that chiro is much good for anything. Or are you not open to persuasion?

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 you are a complete fool if you think i am gullible enough to take that disingenuous offer seriously. so, i am to ignore the fact that every day tests and testimonials prove out both principle and practice of chiropractic, and i am to listen to some "studies" paid for by chiropractic's enemies, drug companies that contradict what i know and experience on a daily basis. what kind of meds are you on? apparently you don't have both oars in the water.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

Why do you think it's disingenuous? Why do you dismiss evidence before you've even see it? And why do you think any evidence I could come up with would be Big Pharma-funded (besides, I've never seen any)? And why are you willing to believe chiro-funded evidence, but not willing to believe anyone else's?

What evidence would make you doubt?

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 why are you still here? i told you to go look up dr. palmer's research and you haven't. i believed you weren't interested in the truth and you have proven it. you don't want proof, you want proof of medical approval- a certification by the failures that have since the beginning tried to destroy the chiropractic profession. are you really so naive as to think they would ever give such certification and undermine the hundreds of billions in annual drug sales of their sponsors?

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

Still completely on the wrong track. I will go and see what I can find at your palmer college website.

I'll ask again: are you willing to look at other evidence? Or do you just dismiss it out of hand. Or do you just KNOW it's flawed?

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 what did i just get through telling you? do you suppose youare going to disprove to me what is re-proven to me on a daily basis? go ahead and throw some of your trash, see if i care.

[zeno2712]

@hiodr

I've found all the usual bland marketing stuff about chiro: misalignments; drug free; adjustments...but not even their research pages tells me anything I didn't know about chiro. Is the more detailed explanation of chiro buried somewhere? Or wasn't it the Palmer College of Chiropractic you wanted me to look at (you never gave me a link).

[JaguarSTR]

@zeno2712 Why ask hiodr for a link to Palmer University School for Chiropractic when "You"; the consumate arm chair researcher...the only one to have a complete understanding of chiropractic as it relates to the spine and nervous system should be more than capable to Google Palmer Chiropractic yourself?

[hiodr]

@zeno2712 you need to ask the archivists. it will take a little perseverence.

[skepticat1]

@hiodr

There's nothing disingenuous about the offer, mate. I know from personal experience and numerous other testimonies that chiropractic is a crock and would advise anybody not to waste their money on it. But if somebody showed me some scientific evidence that it treated ear infections, I might change my mind.

Until then, if you talk like a quack - and you do - then you are a quack as far as I'm concerned.

[hiodr]

@skepticat1 of course it is. you know nothing, which is what i have been saying all along. the fact that you speak of chiropractic treating ear infections proves it yet again.

[skepticat1]

@hiodr

Huh? It is not I who speaks of chiroquacktic treating ear infections, you moron. Have you actually watched the video you are making your idiotic comments beneath? Are you aware of the hundreds complaints against chiros in the UK for making exactly that claim? I've had one of you American chiroquacks make that claim right to my face.

Seems none of you know the meaning of the words 'honesty' and 'integrity'.

[JaguarSTR]

@skepticat1 What have you to say about the parents and childrens satisfaction with chiropractic before you masturbate your mouth.

[hiodr]

@skepticat1 hey stupid. not everybody who calls themself a chiropractor is one. real chiropractors know that the purpose of it is not to treat anything, but to correct the cause of nerve interference. once again, another ignoramus who hasn't done the slightest bit of self-education on the subject before opening their big mouth and promptly sticking their foot in it.

[JaguarSTR]

@skepticat1 We beg to differ with ya...ya pontificating limey Aussie mate. Why don't ya go back to what ya were doing and best at....humping a Roo or two.

[chiropractic47]

@JaguarSTR LOL! LMAO!

[JaguarSTR]

@chiropractic47 What can I say? I kicked some friggin skeptic ass! Chiropractic for all!

[zeno2712]

@JaguarSTR @chiropractic47 @hoidr

Fantastic!!!

What a great advertisment for the caring, compassionate chiro 'profession' you are! Prime examples of quacks who care not of their customers, but only about their own arrogant selves.

You have performed magnificently here, refusing to answer any question put to you, instead going out of your way to be insulting, pompous and ignorant.

Just think how many of your current and potential customers will see how you behave.

A great advert for chiro!

[JaguarSTR]

@zeno2712 We don't care, now go away. Go visit a medical video forum so you'll be with your friends.

[zeno2712]

@JaguarSTR

Congratulations - that's the first good idea you've had!

I think I will visit a medical forum: there's obviously no medicine or even any signs of a caring profession around here. Just insulting, pompous, ignorant quacks taking money from customers for useless, unproven, pre-scientific quackery.

Your bedside manner leaves a lot to be desired, as does your utter lack of self-awareness. But now it's all laid out here for your customers to see.

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 Ahh, the entire time here it was "medicine" you wanted. No medicine here chap. Ya want "medicine"?, go to your "medicine" cabinet, stir up a concoction and sit down before your favorite medical horror vid. Now that a heal ya!

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

Correct! No medicine or health here, just quackery. Move along.

I'm sure your customers are lovin' it!

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 Yeah, you go to where the drugs are at...that's the ticket. 15,000 patient files @ 500+ pt visits/week...not too shabby for a chiropractic practice huh? See ya zero zeno! Viva Chiropractic!!!

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

Just as I suspected - it's all about the money.

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 Thankfully, I'm handsomely compensated for working my ass off to serve the multitudes, whilst you masterbate on YouTube. Viva Chiropractic!

[chiropractic47]

@zeno2712 LOL! And you were just so accomodating and polite to the chiropractic forum members here...LMAO!

[zeno2712]

@chiropractic47

I think we can leave that up to your customers (current or future) to decide, can't we?

[JaguarSTR]

@zeno2712 Shoo. shoo...go, go, go. Go on...move along to medic land.

[skepticat1]

@JaguarSTR

Is that your best argument, dear? I've no idea why you assume I'm an Australian and, if I may say so, I'm rather embarrassed for your ignorance. Like I said, if talks like a quack, it's a quack and and no quantity of empty, racist abuse from you or your fellow quacks changes that.

[JaguarSTR]

@skepticat1 Wacko, try a medical YouTube video and pontificate there.

[chiropractic47]

@skepticat1 Shut the fuck up ya Aussie faggot!

[hfdc1]

@gern74 Yeah, keep giving 'em drugs that have been shown not to work. And to answer your questions...yes, yes, yes...and you should try an attitude adjustment to open up that closed mind of yours.

[yarly2112]

@gern74 Do you know anything about chiropratic yourself? Ever been adjusted? Maybe you should research chiropractic education and the rigorus licensing standards and National Board exams before attacking something you don't know anything about.

[zeno2712]

Is there any evidence that chiropractic care works for ear infections?

[chiropractic47]

Is there any evidence that medicine works for ear infections? The newscaster said conventional medicine doesn't work, but antibiotics are still given, making things worse.

[hfdc1]

@zeno2712

Journal of Clinical Chiropractic Pediatrics indicates that there is a strong correlation between chiropractic adjustments and the resolution of ear infections. 332 children with chronic ear infections participated in the study. Each child, ranging in age from 27 days to 5 years, was given a series of chiropractic adjustments. The results show that close to 80% of the children did not experience another ear infection within the six-month period following their initial visits.

[zeno2712]

Oh dear.

[chiropractic47]

Get on board with chiropractic now not when it's too late.

[chiropractic47]

You mean Oh "Ear" needs a chiropractic doctor.

[halwcampbelljr]

Very good and promotes the profession