I want to know where this guy got his info about abortions going up during the bush administration. I'm neither of the bias sides, but I hate it when ppl lie right out their teeth and ppl believe it. The branch of planned parenthood did the stats and said the rate went down. Gutenhymer (spelling?) did the stats for planned parenthood.
the toothless guy who is anti choice has NO CLUE what the kid is talking about he is so uneducated. You can tell he is shocked and has no retort.The kid that is schooling him is so much more intelligent.
You know,the bottem line is the majority of times it is used as a means for birth control.This has touched every person in the world who has had an abortion,known someone,helped get one.come on,be honest.It's hardly ever rape,endangering the woman or fetus.It's mainly from irresponsibility,immaturity,selfisness(not a good time in MY life) & on & on & on.Come on. If "it" is not ALIVE why does it have to be killed?
@sweet161402 "If "it" is not ALIVE why does it have to be killed?"
Because its life depends on the mother; it is technically a parasite.
Logically, the mother should have a choice whether to support this parasite or not.
Even if a person is responsible for giving themselves the parasite, that doesn't mean you can forbid them from getting rid of it (which doesn't even make sense).
@Am4d3usM0z4rt I knew what you meant.My response to you is from how you call the baby a fetus(which it is),but the woman you called "the mother." Mother ? No.Mother of what? It's not a baby to you so she should'nt be called a mother.She is an incubator.
@sweet161402 You moron. These anti-abortion people claim to care about the "sanctity of life". This guy asked them, if that is the case, then why don't they protest against the war in the Middle-East? He was basically trying to show how hypocritical these people are. He had a perfectly good point, he wasn't avoiding the issue.
@sweet161402 Maybe they do protest the war. But the guy here refused to answer the question, as if it were an irrelevant question even though it was not. He could have simply said 'yes' but he didn't, so it's reasonable to assume that he doesn't protest the war.
@Am4d3usM0z4rt Maybe it took him by surprise which is exactly what this kid wanted.He was the one who came up to them &changed the subject to war.The man holding the sign should have been more wise because I recognized the style of tactic right away & who is really behind it.
also i belive that if this teenager cannot argue about abortion instead of the war then he should stop argueing with pro life people and start protesting the war dumbass
1 a baby didnt threaten 4 million + people and yes the war was in fact self defence, btw just becouse eny one was murderd has nuthing to do with murdering another1....and no comments about my spelling i was a babie that was predicted to not liveafter birth. i was a
babie that was born with a stoma in my heart, im so fucking allive and happy ur smart ass has no right to say i shoulda died becouse my mother was unable to afford me or carry me yes im adopted and ive workd gotten jobs and given my birthmother well over12,000 bucks back for her worthy love
a fetus is a baby i was a fetus and i was savd i was allowed to live if his gay ass would not have blocked showing my responce video you all would understand ... and no if the kid does turn out to be a serial killer then oh well if you assume he WILL be than you yourself might grw older and become a seriall killer are ARE im asking ARE we suppose to kill u now ?? huh @stickmaleboy
That teenager is an idiot. He's saying you have to protest every single thing that goes against a certain view to not be hypocritical and he is bringing up an entirely different subject (the war) because he can't face the man in an abortion argument. The man has picked one topic he feels strongly about and is letting himself be heard. He doesn't need to show up at every single rally for anything opposing death/murder/killing ever. That doesn't make him a hypocrit if he doesn't.
@TheCav21 Sorry, it does make him a hypocrite, because the war involves one of the same phenomena as abortion: the taking of innocent lives. So the his drawing of the parallel is valid, and you're the idiot for not seeing the connection.
@TheMercilessEye No, abortion involves taking of a human life as the primary purpose. The purpose of war is not to take innocent lives, it is a side effect that is unwanted by the US. So now, the two are not a valid parallel. The kid obviously could not defend the pro-abortion cause, so he chose a parallel that could not apply validly to the situation.
The kid is a moron, all he does is tangent. All wanted to do was bring up other stuff and not listen. And killing babies is wrong (noticed I said babies and not fetuses, you half to think about when it's "okay" to take a life)
What you should understand, is that abortion did not start under Bush's reign, but started around the 70's. We Catholics are not responsible for abortion, as we are PROTECTING life. What if, that unborn child you have abandoned, could have become something great? For example, that anti abortion commercial featuring Obama. He had become a president, but now many are reverting their choice on who they will vote for in 2012. I believe that EVERYONE. Religious freedom, and RESPECT for each other is-
What we need. If you believe in abortion, I dislike your decision, but I respect it. That's how it should be for EVERYONE. Part of a religion or not, what this world needs is PEACE. The only way we can achieve that is if we all can respect each other. Almost every single war there was had to do with religion. If you are Muslim, Buddhist, Mormon, Baptist, Methodist, Athiest, Christian, etc, I respect you. All I ask is peace. Another issue is the government control.
To keep our freedom, we need PEOPLE POWER. The government can not control what we believe in, because the government serves America. And America, is WE, the PEOPLE. Obama is our employee, and the decision lies with us. Make it a great day or not, the choice is yours. -I'm 12.
@Stickmaleboy Either way it's still a human with a right to life. Yes, the argument of "it could cure cancer" isn't the best one but that doesn't take away from the fact that it is a baby that has a future, good or bad.
you can't bring right-wingers to their senses. They are under the spell of cognitive dissonance. They believe too strongly in nonsense that facts don't matter to them. There's only one thing for right-wingers: the gulag.
1 a baby didnt threaten 4 million + people and yes the war was in fact self defence, btw just becouse eny one was murderd has nuthing to do with murdering another1....and no comments about my spelling i was a babie that was predicted to not liveafter birth. i was a
babie that was born with a stoma in my heart, im so fucking allive and happy ur smart ass has no right to say i shoulda died becouse my mother was unable to afford me or carry me yes im adopted and ive workd gotten jobs and given my birthmother well over12,000 bucks back for her worthy love
1 a baby didnt threaten 4 million + people and yes the war was in fact self defence, btw just becouse eny one was murderd has nuthing to do with murdering another1....and no comments about my spelling i was a babie that was predicted to not liveafter birth. i was a
People will cover their religious asses by any means. They are backwards. "To help these vegetables I'll kill these doctors. Go war whoo!" Pick your battles on the whole spectrum, not one snipit.
Oh man, the more this kid talks, the stupider he comes across. He's got alot of growing up to do. BAD video. He made himself look like such a fool. He's talking history and abortion under Bush. This protest here has nothing to do with any past administration. SHUT YOU mouth kid and LISTEN for once.You have so much to learn.
The pro-life male in this video is obviously a fucking moron, and about as good an example of his idiotic movement as one can have expected. The kid's arguments are well-taken, but could've been expressed more clearly. All he did was put this idiot off-balance. I would've demolished the jerk.
@TheMercilessEye If you do, make a vid. There's nothing I love more then watching some jerk get his ass handed to him by an educated individual who actually understands how the world works.
@cavemantiger His argument holds no water. He twists facts or disinformation to try to justify his own opinion. Life begins at conception. Abortion is murder. It just gives the abortionist the right to kill innocent life. The baby has no choice to live or die.
@catholics4unity Life begins, yes, but *A* life, does not. Let me explain... if I cut off your thumb, I have killed human life. But I have not killed *A* human life. A zygote is not A life, it is just a cluster of living cells like your thumb. Therefore, it is not murder.
@cavemantiger I'll consider it. I just got a cheap used video camera for just such a purpose - I wouldn't want to risk a new one in case the reaction hits postal-level...
@TheMercilessEye Are you another self proclaimed pro-choice retard? Have you been sent her out of your own rebellious wim to support the murders of the innocent unborn? Are you between the ages of 16-23? Are you on a "feminine rights" rant? Do you support the intentions of Planned Parenthood, which came into existence from Margaret Sanger, the racist who wanted to abort the African American unborn? I'll have you know that you're not so smart yourself and what you support is racism and murder.
@Elikam82 I'm 55. This planet has limited resources and your imaginary god is NOT going to come 'down out of a cloud' to rescue your stupid sorry ass. I'm not an advocate of abortion: I consider it wasteful and unnecessary, now that we have a variety of contraceptives including the 'day after pill.' I am, however, a supporter of zero population growth, and I'm apparently more educated than you are...
@TheMercilessEye Wow, you are 55 years old and you think that the religious believe a man will come down out of a cloud. Go check yourself please. It's good to know you don't believe in abortions. However, I hate to break it to you but I plan on continuing this "overpopulation" by having children and so do many of my family members and friends. Apparently, you are not very educated if you actually believe you can stop people from having babies. LOL This comment was the biggest laugh of them all.
@Elikam82 Whether or not you plan on creating more mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging progeny is of no concern to me. The real groundwork needs to be done in India, China and Africa if we're going to sustain this planet. If you check the statistics, you'll find that incidence of pregnancy DECLINES with increased education (less is left to chance) so we'll stop people from excessive breeding through education. Moron.
@Elikam82 As for your particular take on 'religion', I regard ALL of it as snake oil, whether you believe in Christianity or some cosmic muffin. The bulk of the people behind this pro-life movement are imbeciles, and you're only a few notches above them, if that...likely with several dozen to go before you can actually be regarded as sapient...
millions of babies bombed to death!!! haha the kid in the video is a COWARD FAGGOT and the faggot who posted this video said "gets schooled" no one got schooled!!! Its a typical cock sucking coward atheist liberal babbling about tree hugging. I REALLY wish these scum lived as jews in nazi germany, i REALLY wish these scums were kurdish people in iraq or these SCUM were in the twin towers on 9/11. Keep crying atheist liberal scum, keep crying. Ugh never met SUCH hate mongering faggots, LOSERS!!
@burlapshire no, i dnt think the old guy got schooled at all. He just doesn't know how to argue. The kid in the vid. ranting at the older guy didn't even show his face. I dnt see how ranting in someone's personal space is schooling them.
@zodiusracemosis You're wrong in so many ways here, but I just want to pick one... "hate mongering faggots". Do you see what you did there? You used a hateful slur in a sentence about how you think other people are hateful.You, sir, are an idiot.
@legaliseall Ahhh, there you go again. Stereotyping. I have no hate for no one, none at all. Not even for my father who left me or the man who raped me as a kid. Be specific pls ok.
Basically the pro-choice argument is The fetus isn't a person,but even it it were it doesn't matter because the woman's right to control her body is more important than the fetus's right to exist. The pro-life argument is that abortion is immoral and promotes immoral behavior BUT even if it doesn't the unborn babies RIGHT to exist temporarily outweighs the woman's right to absolute control of her body. So far I find the pro-life argument more compelling, But I'm still somewhat open minded.
@skershaw2000 not the same thing. abortionists flee back to civil rights for women, and how all the naughty righties will rape them whenever they feel cornered, but that's not what's being argued here. It's the fact that there are 2 lives being discussed; the mother's and the child's.
@LordKaisen No, that's not what is really being discussed either... and regardless, my statement is more an objective observation of facts... its the irony that most "pro lifers" (absurd label) arent about preserving life at all, its about preserving an agenda that they dont quite comprehend fully... most americans dont really get politics, social issues, but they do like to blab on about it.
@skershaw2000 your problem is that you assume the person to be ignorant for considering the ctity of life in a mother's womb. If it was a rock being given nutrients, this wouldn't be a problem.
@LordKaisen 1.) I dont have a problem 2.) I never even stated anything remotely similar to what you are suggesting... I didnt even comment on the contents of the video 3.) dont be presumptuous, it shows your lack of world experience, obvious ignorance and extreme naivete... just a friendly tip if you want to have credibility.
Then again, some people with such low intelligence, will never grasp the fundamental of "we see the world as WE are, not as IT is" -Anais Niin
@skershaw2000 dunno why you're getting mad, all im saying is that pro-life is valid and credible. Certain people might laugh it off, but no one's laughing on that camp. In fact, we've made pretty good strides in overturning the pro-abortion movement in the past decade.
@skershaw2000 But since I'm not pro-war, pro-gun, or pro-violence, your statement just became invalid. I'm not a nutbag last time I checked and I will never understand why people think that having a fetus torn apart or killed with chemicals is okay just because it's dependent on it's mother. Lots of people can't live on their own or they'll die. I'm not against all abortions, just the ones that aren't even necessary.
@KasaiKendia Maybe your not, it's just most pro lifers are religious, and as we know, religion has been the cause of so many senseless deaths, it makes me laugh, how they say they are pro life and yet support a God who if you believe these stories, killed millions
@legaliseall I'm Christian and that has nothing to do with my views on abortions and last time I checked, it certainly didn't make me a dick. Though I can understand where you're coming from
@legaliseall And though I understand, there's no need to be vulgar with ppl you've never even met. It's insulting to yourself and to those people who did nothin to you at all.
And the point of this video is what exactly? That a grown man doesn't know how to argue with an 18 year old? That doesn't prove squat, unnecessary abortions are wrong and will always be wrong, it's messed up to have your baby torn apart.
@BillHicks420 When does it become a baby? When it's born? Some abortions happen that way, so it isn't really false. Sometimes it happens while it's a fetus, sometimes while it's a baby.
@KasaiKendia No it does not. A baby is AFTER it is born. No LEGAL abortions happen when the baby is born. To use that position is a strawman argument, because it has nothing to do with the pro-file vs pro-choice issue. If it was to happen when the baby is born, it would clearly be murder both logically, and under the constitution/law/mandates. Don't misrepresent or appeal to emotion; Abortions are about "fetuses" most of the time, not "babies"
@BillHicks420 No legal ones in the hospitals, but since when does everyone follow every medical rule? Never, someone always has to break the rules. I've seen a few abortions where the baby was delivered to the head, and then killed. I'm not appealing to emotions since I'm not using it myself. Abortions happen while it's a fetus and a baby, sorry if you didn't know that, but now you do.
@KasaiKendia They could strap the baby on a freaking rocket launcher for all I care. The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter, since it is not what the debate is ABOUT. How much of what you describe really happens, is really questionable, because it is not legal. (We are talking about a BABY, that's being born around the due date, and NOT in the first trimester, right?). The doctor would lose his license and go to jail, if what you describe is true.
@BillHicks420 I'm talking about a baby around the 6-7 mark in the pregnancy. Wow strap a baby to a rocket? You have a sick mind, that's quite disturbing. I hope you dnt ever have children.
@KasaiKendia Wow, only used to PC clean church humor I take it? I don't care. Please never have kids yourself. Anyway... 6-7 MARK? Why would you use the word "mark"? What do you mean? Week? At the 6-7th week, it is a fetus, not a baby. This is REALLY early, it doesn't matter if this is aborted in our outside of the womb. Of course, inside would be less graphic. My points remain the same, you haven't commented further...
@BillHicks420 Wow um no, I'm used to a lot of humor, but I dnt really see what's funny about strapping a baby to a rocket. I'd be a good mother, I already have practice taking care of children. When I say 6-7 mark, I meant month. Sry, thought you'd figure it out without me saying it. 6-7 week would be early, even though that's still messed up, but I meant 6-7 months along into the pregnancy. That isn't early, that baby can survive at that point.
@KasaiKendia You're right. It wasn't really humorous. I was just showing the amount of fucks I gave in that second, as it pushed the focus from the issue at hand. How is that "messed up"?
@KasaiKendia Yeah, it wasn't funny really. More meant to show how many fucks I gave, because I felt it was shifting the focus of the issue. How is 6-7 weeks "Messed up"?
Well, 6-7 months is the third trimester, which isn't legal anywhere in the world. So again, it is not part of the issue, since it is not what pro-choice want, anyway. And you witness this you said? Well did the doctor go to jail? Any news story about it? I mean give something... It is highly illegal
@BillHicks420 Yea I understood the point of your "joke", wasn't hard to figure out. How would you know the law of every country and city in this huge world with trillions of people living on it?
@BillHicks420 Yea I understood the point of your "joke", wasn't hard to figure out. How would you know the law of every country and city in this huge world with trillions of people living on it?
@BillHicks420 Yea I understood the point of your "joke", wasn't hard to figure out. How would you know the law of every country and city in this huge world with trillions of people living on it?
@KasaiKendia Funny how you sympathize, and still call it "it". IT happens to be a lump of cells at the 6-7 week marks. Yet to develop most or all internal organs, no motor and cognitive abilities, no thought, no emotions, no memories etc. In fact, at this stage, it looks like 90% of all other mammals. You are messed up, letting your emotions come before your reason.
@BillHicks420 The reason I say it is because I dnt know wht gender the fetus is, thought tht was easy to figure out. Haha funny how you mention emotions, my emotions aren't even in this. It's my morals and mind that I use with this. I'm not messed up for thinking that killing an innocent fetus/baby is messed up when there isn't a good reason for it. Technically all humans are just a lump of cells, so I dnt really see your point when you say that.
@KasaiKendia The fact that you have called it a baby several times, despite me pointing out it is not a baby, shows that yes, in fact your emotions are in with this. They affect your moral perception of the issue, and others as well, if you were to use the word "baby" within a discussion. Look up "Appeal to emotion"...
@BillHicks420 Didn't I already tell you why I put fetus/baby. Geez, told you several times already and no, my emotions aren't in this. I dnt care what a text says about emotion, since they're my emotions, I can tell when I'm using them or not and I'm not using them atm. Quit tryna act as though you knw. What affects my morals is what I see as right and wrong and what I was taught. Nothing else. Funny how you strangers on the internet act as though you know how I work.
@BillHicks420 I said fetus/baby, most women have the procedure when it's a fetus, but there are some women who have it done further along in the pregnancy.
you dont get it kid. abortion is killing a human and this man is fighting for a babies right to life just as he probably did when you were inside your mother and that has NOTHING to do with Iraq. A baby is just as much a baby inside the mother as it is out side,,,same dna...same soul from conseption to natural death.
Ah the Euphemisms service us well as history has proven. Verbal Reengineering worked on Slavery, Indians, Jews & now the most innocent & marginalized of them all, a baby in the womb.Its funny how we say "never again" then we do it again Different Rhetoric, different demographic, same outcome JPII was right we do live in a Culture of Death. You don't have to be religious to see it. Just use reason
I've noticed that homosexuality and abortion are both deeply connected for people of both parties hate the very heterosexuality and gestation of which they came from. Satan hates Gods plan for the man, woman and child family design.
@dalmatian847 Perhaps she was pro abortion but actually wanted a child. You have assumed he was a mistake, and that she only went through with the pregnancy because she has good 'Merican values. Try to think of it as pro choice rather than pro abortion. You seem to have confused yourself into believing pro abortion means anti human reproduction, which it does in a sense, but you need to apply context.
@lfo98 Or perhaps she wasn't pro-choice at all. We don't know that. What we DO know is he wouldn't be around waving his stupid camcorder asking irrelevant questions about the Iraq War is she "exercised her choice" like her son is in favor of. That was my point. What exactly is your context?
@lfo98 My point was if he asked him if his mother made the "choice" he clearly supports, he wouldn't be there. That question may have actually triggered the logical part of his brain that was clearly sleeping as he asked a completely unrelated question about the Iraq War that he somehow "schooled" that guy on.
@lfo98 You know what the funny thing about liberals is? They view the U.S Constitution as"living and breathing" as a document, but they don't grant the the same concept to a developing human fetus.
What this kid is saying it totally irrelevant. Even if this guy is an enthusiastic supporter of war, it has nothing to do with whether abortion is murder. That's the issue here. You can't determine whether the pro-life view is true by attacking the character of pro-lifers.
Also, it doesn't make sense to say "it's just an embryo." "Adolescent," "toddler," "infant," "fetus," and "embryo" are just words that describe different phases of human life.
far from "schooled". this 18 year old behind the camera has no idea how to make a logical argument. nothing he is saying has anything to do with abortion. All he can do is attack a straw man. i doubt he'd even knows what that means though.
LOL I'm not sure how you're doing any "schooling" here... You can't stick to one subject, but rather go for red herrings and rabbit trails. Hypocrisy is one issue, fair enough (BTW not all pro-life people support these wars) but that really has nothing to do with the question "Is it a baby or not a baby?" Your "monkeys have hands" argument is stupid, arbitrary, and works against you if anything- Hands only come from (once)living, individual entities anyway.
this is funny hes trying to ague why u shouldnt abort babys it is their right if some women was raped would u still expect them to keep the baby if they had another child but didnt have enough to sustain there other children would u still expect them to keep it and starve try to get the homeles mothers of the strrets before u talk
@realAaron Giving birth does not require one to keep the child, tho it does allow a mother who had previously decided not to keep the child, the option to do so (something abortion does not making abortion the "anti-choice"). Statistics show that the majority (75-85%)of women impregnated by rape choose to give birth with none regretting, they call it "healing", whereas those that abort 85-95% regret the abortion calling it worse then the rape. 2 million couples waiting to adopt. Waiting. Waiting
Abortions are not murder. Some have no choice. With all this religeon anti-abortion stuff makes no sense. When a young kid dies say one i knew Who died in a car accident he was only in highschool. They say well you know, god works in mysterious ways. Although when it comes to this you think its cruel. Obvoisly "god" put it here for a reason so cut the crap. your not folling anyone.
He's right about the bombing babies bit in Iraq but why is he attacking a man who's trying to stop babies being killed? My theory is that gay men don't have the same morlas as straight men, the real reason abortion went up is because of feminism
you are right about the war, but not about abortions. the sanctity of life and ignoring his arguments. stop dehumanizing embryos. ganging up on an old man videoing him under pressure. fuck you.
This guy's mistake was responding to the strawman the guy with the video camera was setting up for him. I notice that we never did get to see the picture the man was holding.
@Wwjdlol see, why would it matter if he were gay or not? it wouldn't affect you in any way. Same with abortion, it doesn't affect anyone accept for the woman that conceived it. Sorry, but you just got told by a 15 year old.
@Wwjdlol your argument is invalid. elaborate or get the fuck out. a lot of people that choose to have abortions are people that wouldnt be able to supply a good quality of life to the baby they would have. they may resent it, they probably wont want it and the child will have a bad home life. the guy here being gay, if he is, doesnt matter and your probably just some ignorant 13 year old jackass parroting what his parents have told him to cover up the fact that youre a mistake
have murdered proportionately so many more! So the guy was technically right, we are protecting the people there. Also you cant compare the two things. Someone can easily change whether they choose to abort a baby or not in certain circumstances, you cant just change war... gotta go with the protestor on this one...
the guy shooting this is an idiot. I'm biased opinion, in fact I came from a video where a father owns some pro-life protestors and thought it was awesome, but this guy is an idiot. First of all his facts are so skewed its halarious!! A million and a half babies died in iraq? First of all the US hasnt had any "bombing runs" in iraq. Any time the US barrage from the sky was with accurate systems like the AC-130 and very little civilian life has been lost, while on the other hand the terrorists
cancer is a form of life. the millions of bacteria you kill everytime you wash your hands is life. You don't give a fuck about life when it's suits you. A fetus is the very definition of a parasite. It lives off the host and if the host doesn't want to support it and risk their life that's their choice. Or should you be forced to die of cancer if you get it because base forms of life is so precious?
@musicmode13100 "leeches" requires a willful attachment tho. Except for the case of rape, which is illegal and which impregnation creating two victims instead of one is rare, an unborn human is conceived as a direct result to the willful participation of a man and a woman in the only act which we can be conceived. The Little One is within their mother's womb not by their will, but by the will of their parents. This does not constitute leeching.
@Minxcomix i didnt call it a leech. the act of leeching is the "sucking" of nutrients from a host in a manner that has a negative impact on the organism being "leeched"
@musicmode13100 again, a willful act on the part of the one doing the leeching. Since we consider a 35 yr old man living rent free off his parents "leeching", why do we not consider the 9 yr old living rent free of his parents also "leeching"? It has to do with the age of the person and the parental responsibility due them.
BTW, science shows that cells sneak across the placenta in both directions. Science knows that babe's cells provides mom with increased resistance to serious diseases
I want to know where this guy got his info about abortions going up during the bush administration. I'm neither of the bias sides, but I hate it when ppl lie right out their teeth and ppl believe it. The branch of planned parenthood did the stats and said the rate went down. Gutenhymer (spelling?) did the stats for planned parenthood.
American4Liberty 10 hours ago
Do not underestimate the stupidity of humans.
BoxheadTheGriefer 13 hours ago
the toothless guy who is anti choice has NO CLUE what the kid is talking about he is so uneducated. You can tell he is shocked and has no retort.The kid that is schooling him is so much more intelligent.
kiastar67 15 hours ago
A fertilized turtle egg is under federal protection, but a fertilized human egg is just tissue. Logic? Let's use some.
MH5tube 16 hours ago
You know,the bottem line is the majority of times it is used as a means for birth control.This has touched every person in the world who has had an abortion,known someone,helped get one.come on,be honest.It's hardly ever rape,endangering the woman or fetus.It's mainly from irresponsibility,immaturity,selfisness(not a good time in MY life) & on & on & on.Come on. If "it" is not ALIVE why does it have to be killed?
sweet161402 18 hours ago
@sweet161402 "If "it" is not ALIVE why does it have to be killed?"
Because its life depends on the mother; it is technically a parasite.
Logically, the mother should have a choice whether to support this parasite or not.
Even if a person is responsible for giving themselves the parasite, that doesn't mean you can forbid them from getting rid of it (which doesn't even make sense).
Am4d3usM0z4rt 16 hours ago
@Am4d3usM0z4rt you mean its' life depends on its' incubater?
sweet161402 16 hours ago
@sweet161402 By parasite I mean "an organism that lives on or in another organism (the host), from the body of which it obtains nutriment."
A fetus cannot survive outside of the womb until a certain age; it siphons all its requirements from the mother's body.
Am4d3usM0z4rt 16 hours ago
@Am4d3usM0z4rt I knew what you meant.My response to you is from how you call the baby a fetus(which it is),but the woman you called "the mother." Mother ? No.Mother of what? It's not a baby to you so she should'nt be called a mother.She is an incubator.
sweet161402 26 minutes ago
Well,is this 18 year old caring about the war? No. AVOIDING the issue. This man needs to put this punk in his place!
sweet161402 18 hours ago
@sweet161402 You moron. These anti-abortion people claim to care about the "sanctity of life". This guy asked them, if that is the case, then why don't they protest against the war in the Middle-East? He was basically trying to show how hypocritical these people are. He had a perfectly good point, he wasn't avoiding the issue.
Am4d3usM0z4rt 16 hours ago
@Am4d3usM0z4rt Why do you have to resort to name calling? I asked a question. How do you know they don't protest the war?
sweet161402 16 hours ago
@sweet161402 Maybe they do protest the war. But the guy here refused to answer the question, as if it were an irrelevant question even though it was not. He could have simply said 'yes' but he didn't, so it's reasonable to assume that he doesn't protest the war.
Am4d3usM0z4rt 16 hours ago
@Am4d3usM0z4rt Maybe it took him by surprise which is exactly what this kid wanted.He was the one who came up to them &changed the subject to war.The man holding the sign should have been more wise because I recognized the style of tactic right away & who is really behind it.
sweet161402 32 minutes ago
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Liberals are killing human fetuses in America, and adults in the Middle East
Obama is the president now
fundieangel 1 day ago
also i belive that if this teenager cannot argue about abortion instead of the war then he should stop argueing with pro life people and start protesting the war dumbass
jadenspades1 1 day ago
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1 a baby didnt threaten 4 million + people and yes the war was in fact self defence, btw just becouse eny one was murderd has nuthing to do with murdering another1....and no comments about my spelling i was a babie that was predicted to not liveafter birth. i was a
jadenspades1 1 day ago
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babie that was born with a stoma in my heart, im so fucking allive and happy ur smart ass has no right to say i shoulda died becouse my mother was unable to afford me or carry me yes im adopted and ive workd gotten jobs and given my birthmother well over12,000 bucks back for her worthy love
jadenspades1 1 day ago
a fetus is a baby i was a fetus and i was savd i was allowed to live if his gay ass would not have blocked showing my responce video you all would understand ... and no if the kid does turn out to be a serial killer then oh well if you assume he WILL be than you yourself might grw older and become a seriall killer are ARE im asking ARE we suppose to kill u now ?? huh @stickmaleboy
jadenspades1 1 day ago
@jadenspades1 What if the kid turns out to be gay...?
TheMercilessEye 21 hours ago
That teenager is an idiot. He's saying you have to protest every single thing that goes against a certain view to not be hypocritical and he is bringing up an entirely different subject (the war) because he can't face the man in an abortion argument. The man has picked one topic he feels strongly about and is letting himself be heard. He doesn't need to show up at every single rally for anything opposing death/murder/killing ever. That doesn't make him a hypocrit if he doesn't.
TheCav21 1 day ago
@TheCav21 That doesn't make anti-abortion any less retarded.
alt9001 1 day ago
@alt9001 Got any basis for that?
TheCav21 1 day ago
@TheCav21 Sorry, it does make him a hypocrite, because the war involves one of the same phenomena as abortion: the taking of innocent lives. So the his drawing of the parallel is valid, and you're the idiot for not seeing the connection.
TheMercilessEye 21 hours ago
@TheMercilessEye No, abortion involves taking of a human life as the primary purpose. The purpose of war is not to take innocent lives, it is a side effect that is unwanted by the US. So now, the two are not a valid parallel. The kid obviously could not defend the pro-abortion cause, so he chose a parallel that could not apply validly to the situation.
TheCav21 12 hours ago
The kid is a moron, all he does is tangent. All wanted to do was bring up other stuff and not listen. And killing babies is wrong (noticed I said babies and not fetuses, you half to think about when it's "okay" to take a life)
TheShubLub 1 day ago
@TheShubLub So is killing children, which is what happens in war, moron.
TheMercilessEye 21 hours ago
I would have punched this idiot out if I was that man. Fucking punk.
Bisquack 1 day ago
Comparing apples and oranges isn't "schooling" someone. Could have brought up much better arguments.
itsgk 1 day ago
What you should understand, is that abortion did not start under Bush's reign, but started around the 70's. We Catholics are not responsible for abortion, as we are PROTECTING life. What if, that unborn child you have abandoned, could have become something great? For example, that anti abortion commercial featuring Obama. He had become a president, but now many are reverting their choice on who they will vote for in 2012. I believe that EVERYONE. Religious freedom, and RESPECT for each other is-
4netflixuse 1 day ago
@4netflixuse
What we need. If you believe in abortion, I dislike your decision, but I respect it. That's how it should be for EVERYONE. Part of a religion or not, what this world needs is PEACE. The only way we can achieve that is if we all can respect each other. Almost every single war there was had to do with religion. If you are Muslim, Buddhist, Mormon, Baptist, Methodist, Athiest, Christian, etc, I respect you. All I ask is peace. Another issue is the government control.
4netflixuse 1 day ago
@4netflixuse
To keep our freedom, we need PEOPLE POWER. The government can not control what we believe in, because the government serves America. And America, is WE, the PEOPLE. Obama is our employee, and the decision lies with us. Make it a great day or not, the choice is yours. -I'm 12.
4netflixuse 1 day ago
@4netflixuse you idiot.
What if that child grew up to be a serial murderer?
Any chance it could grow to be something amazing is negated by the chance of it becoming a terrible human being.
Stickmaleboy 1 day ago
@Stickmaleboy Either way it's still a human with a right to life. Yes, the argument of "it could cure cancer" isn't the best one but that doesn't take away from the fact that it is a baby that has a future, good or bad.
TheCav21 1 day ago
@TheCav21 human life=/=person
Stickmaleboy 19 hours ago
@Stickmaleboy Is that a joke?
TheCav21 12 hours ago
@TheCav21 no, and if you think it is, reexamine your beliefs.
Stickmaleboy 8 hours ago
@Stickmaleboy Maybe I'm misunderstanding you. Can you explain that belief?
TheCav21 1 hour ago
you can't bring right-wingers to their senses. They are under the spell of cognitive dissonance. They believe too strongly in nonsense that facts don't matter to them. There's only one thing for right-wingers: the gulag.
SyndicalistTimes 1 day ago
lmao that retarded man looks like he's about to cry.
SyndicalistTimes 1 day ago
Props for the kid that brought this man to his senses
StandingLast1 2 days ago
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jadenspades1 2 days ago
babie that was born with a stoma in my heart, im so fucking allive and happy ur smart ass has no right to say i shoulda died becouse my mother was unable to afford me or carry me yes im adopted and ive workd gotten jobs and given my birthmother well over12,000 bucks back for her worthy love
jadenspades1 2 days ago
1 a baby didnt threaten 4 million + people and yes the war was in fact self defence, btw just becouse eny one was murderd has nuthing to do with murdering another1....and no comments about my spelling i was a babie that was predicted to not liveafter birth. i was a
jadenspades1 2 days ago
People will cover their religious asses by any means. They are backwards. "To help these vegetables I'll kill these doctors. Go war whoo!" Pick your battles on the whole spectrum, not one snipit.
shpongloidia 2 days ago
Great video! I love watching pro-lifers get flustered when their scare tactics fail to work.
SpinerFan 2 days ago
I guess the guy who made the video doesn't know the difference between abortion & war.
If he does not like war then he should go and protest for that, instead of mixing two different issues!
villaaguirre 3 days ago
@villaaguirre And I guess you don't know the difference between integrity and hypocrisy...
TheMercilessEye 2 days ago
These anti-life freaks need to stop murdering babies!
thevikingmonkey 3 days ago
@thevikingmonkey Go tell it to inmendham.
TheMercilessEye 3 days ago
He says a million people have died in Iraq... and the guy laughs.
I also love the guy holding the camera. lol
OnlyCommunistYouKnow 3 days ago
I think your numbers are WAY OFF
sirsaboteur1 3 days ago
1.5 million haven't died from bombing in Iraq.
Raykak 3 days ago
Abortion of fucking Murder.... There are aborted children who are alive TODAY living their lives as adults...
Your argument is: A is bad so why not protest A instead of B? Poor logic dear friend.
nubemuffin 3 days ago
lame they are both idiots
AveryELUSIVEpenguin 3 days ago
Oh man, the more this kid talks, the stupider he comes across. He's got alot of growing up to do. BAD video. He made himself look like such a fool. He's talking history and abortion under Bush. This protest here has nothing to do with any past administration. SHUT YOU mouth kid and LISTEN for once.You have so much to learn.
MarilynNo1 3 days ago
What an idiot kid. This protest is about abortion, not the war in Iraq. What a moron.
MarilynNo1 3 days ago
@MarilynNo1 Pot-kettle-black.
TheMercilessEye 3 days ago
HAHAHAH I LOVE THE GUY TALKING TO HIM HES A G!!!! KEEP SCHOOLING THE OLDER GENERATIONS TO JUST HOW RETARDED THEY ARE
missilemat 4 days ago
The pro-life male in this video is obviously a fucking moron, and about as good an example of his idiotic movement as one can have expected. The kid's arguments are well-taken, but could've been expressed more clearly. All he did was put this idiot off-balance. I would've demolished the jerk.
TheMercilessEye 4 days ago 8
@TheMercilessEye If you do, make a vid. There's nothing I love more then watching some jerk get his ass handed to him by an educated individual who actually understands how the world works.
cavemantiger 4 days ago 3
@cavemantiger His argument holds no water. He twists facts or disinformation to try to justify his own opinion. Life begins at conception. Abortion is murder. It just gives the abortionist the right to kill innocent life. The baby has no choice to live or die.
catholics4unity 3 days ago
@catholics4unity Life begins, yes, but *A* life, does not. Let me explain... if I cut off your thumb, I have killed human life. But I have not killed *A* human life. A zygote is not A life, it is just a cluster of living cells like your thumb. Therefore, it is not murder.
THAT is a fact.
cavemantiger 3 days ago
@cavemantiger I'll consider it. I just got a cheap used video camera for just such a purpose - I wouldn't want to risk a new one in case the reaction hits postal-level...
TheMercilessEye 3 days ago
@TheMercilessEye What makes him a jerk exactly? The fact that he's trying to save a fetus/baby's life? Wow, what has this world come to.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
@TheMercilessEye Are you another self proclaimed pro-choice retard? Have you been sent her out of your own rebellious wim to support the murders of the innocent unborn? Are you between the ages of 16-23? Are you on a "feminine rights" rant? Do you support the intentions of Planned Parenthood, which came into existence from Margaret Sanger, the racist who wanted to abort the African American unborn? I'll have you know that you're not so smart yourself and what you support is racism and murder.
Elikam82 3 days ago
@Elikam82 I'm 55. This planet has limited resources and your imaginary god is NOT going to come 'down out of a cloud' to rescue your stupid sorry ass. I'm not an advocate of abortion: I consider it wasteful and unnecessary, now that we have a variety of contraceptives including the 'day after pill.' I am, however, a supporter of zero population growth, and I'm apparently more educated than you are...
TheMercilessEye 3 days ago
@TheMercilessEye Wow, you are 55 years old and you think that the religious believe a man will come down out of a cloud. Go check yourself please. It's good to know you don't believe in abortions. However, I hate to break it to you but I plan on continuing this "overpopulation" by having children and so do many of my family members and friends. Apparently, you are not very educated if you actually believe you can stop people from having babies. LOL This comment was the biggest laugh of them all.
Elikam82 2 days ago
@Elikam82 Whether or not you plan on creating more mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging progeny is of no concern to me. The real groundwork needs to be done in India, China and Africa if we're going to sustain this planet. If you check the statistics, you'll find that incidence of pregnancy DECLINES with increased education (less is left to chance) so we'll stop people from excessive breeding through education. Moron.
TheMercilessEye 2 days ago
@Elikam82 As for your particular take on 'religion', I regard ALL of it as snake oil, whether you believe in Christianity or some cosmic muffin. The bulk of the people behind this pro-life movement are imbeciles, and you're only a few notches above them, if that...likely with several dozen to go before you can actually be regarded as sapient...
TheMercilessEye 2 days ago
@TheMercilessEye *Pats head...there, there go take your medicine.
Elikam82 2 days ago
@Elikam82 Try and get some education beyond Leviticus...idiot...
TheMercilessEye 2 days ago
@TheMercilessEye LMAO! Zero population growth? You're wasting your time.
Elikam82 2 days ago
@Elikam82 Not according to the statistics I've been reading lately...imbecile...
TheMercilessEye 2 days ago
Actually, there were fewer abortions under George Bush...
skolded1 4 days ago
@skolded1
Just do a web search on this phenomenon of cherry picking statistics.
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PatrickWysocki 4 days ago
millions of babies bombed to death!!! haha the kid in the video is a COWARD FAGGOT and the faggot who posted this video said "gets schooled" no one got schooled!!! Its a typical cock sucking coward atheist liberal babbling about tree hugging. I REALLY wish these scum lived as jews in nazi germany, i REALLY wish these scums were kurdish people in iraq or these SCUM were in the twin towers on 9/11. Keep crying atheist liberal scum, keep crying. Ugh never met SUCH hate mongering faggots, LOSERS!!
zodiusracemosis 4 days ago
@zodiusracemosis
Schooled is the correct term for this exchanged. The rest of your rant exposes you for the ignorant lunatic you are.
burlapshire 4 days ago
@burlapshire no, i dnt think the old guy got schooled at all. He just doesn't know how to argue. The kid in the vid. ranting at the older guy didn't even show his face. I dnt see how ranting in someone's personal space is schooling them.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
@zodiusracemosis Aw, well don't you sound pro-life.
Tree-hugging? When was that even mentioned in the video?
I just took a screenshot of your comment for an upcoming video. Your idiocy will be shared with the community.
VoiceHunter 4 days ago
@zodiusracemosis Please tell me you're joking or under 14. That response is just over the top and ridiculous.
LogicStance 4 days ago
@zodiusracemosis You're wrong in so many ways here, but I just want to pick one... "hate mongering faggots". Do you see what you did there? You used a hateful slur in a sentence about how you think other people are hateful.You, sir, are an idiot.
thirteenemptyspaces 4 days ago
@zodiusracemosis Wow to be filled with so much hate, you MUST be religious
legaliseall 4 days ago
@legaliseall Ahhh, there you go again. Stereotyping. I have no hate for no one, none at all. Not even for my father who left me or the man who raped me as a kid. Be specific pls ok.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
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Basically the pro-choice argument is The fetus isn't a person,but even it it were it doesn't matter because the woman's right to control her body is more important than the fetus's right to exist. The pro-life argument is that abortion is immoral and promotes immoral behavior BUT even if it doesn't the unborn babies RIGHT to exist temporarily outweighs the woman's right to absolute control of her body. So far I find the pro-life argument more compelling, But I'm still somewhat open minded.
sobriquet1999 5 days ago
I like how once the kid gets backed into a corner he just resorts to the stupid war argument, which is COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO ABORTION.
tesmArts 5 days ago
why is that "pro lifers" always seem to be proWAR, proGUN, proVIOLENCE? But anti freedom, anti choice? Nutbags
skershaw2000 5 days ago
@skershaw2000 not the same thing. abortionists flee back to civil rights for women, and how all the naughty righties will rape them whenever they feel cornered, but that's not what's being argued here. It's the fact that there are 2 lives being discussed; the mother's and the child's.
LordKaisen 5 days ago
@LordKaisen No, that's not what is really being discussed either... and regardless, my statement is more an objective observation of facts... its the irony that most "pro lifers" (absurd label) arent about preserving life at all, its about preserving an agenda that they dont quite comprehend fully... most americans dont really get politics, social issues, but they do like to blab on about it.
skershaw2000 5 days ago
@skershaw2000 your problem is that you assume the person to be ignorant for considering the ctity of life in a mother's womb. If it was a rock being given nutrients, this wouldn't be a problem.
LordKaisen 5 days ago
@LordKaisen 1.) I dont have a problem 2.) I never even stated anything remotely similar to what you are suggesting... I didnt even comment on the contents of the video 3.) dont be presumptuous, it shows your lack of world experience, obvious ignorance and extreme naivete... just a friendly tip if you want to have credibility.
Then again, some people with such low intelligence, will never grasp the fundamental of "we see the world as WE are, not as IT is" -Anais Niin
skershaw2000 5 days ago
@skershaw2000 dunno why you're getting mad, all im saying is that pro-life is valid and credible. Certain people might laugh it off, but no one's laughing on that camp. In fact, we've made pretty good strides in overturning the pro-abortion movement in the past decade.
LordKaisen 4 days ago
@skershaw2000 But since I'm not pro-war, pro-gun, or pro-violence, your statement just became invalid. I'm not a nutbag last time I checked and I will never understand why people think that having a fetus torn apart or killed with chemicals is okay just because it's dependent on it's mother. Lots of people can't live on their own or they'll die. I'm not against all abortions, just the ones that aren't even necessary.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
Pro lifers are dicks
legaliseall 5 days ago
@legaliseall No I'm not.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
@KasaiKendia Maybe your not, it's just most pro lifers are religious, and as we know, religion has been the cause of so many senseless deaths, it makes me laugh, how they say they are pro life and yet support a God who if you believe these stories, killed millions
legaliseall 4 days ago
@legaliseall I'm Christian and that has nothing to do with my views on abortions and last time I checked, it certainly didn't make me a dick. Though I can understand where you're coming from
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
@legaliseall And though I understand, there's no need to be vulgar with ppl you've never even met. It's insulting to yourself and to those people who did nothin to you at all.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
@legaliseall Go fuck yourself baby killer.
Bisquack 1 day ago
hahahahaha GREAT POINT LOVE THIS!!
humbleBEEzip91 5 days ago
And the point of this video is what exactly? That a grown man doesn't know how to argue with an 18 year old? That doesn't prove squat, unnecessary abortions are wrong and will always be wrong, it's messed up to have your baby torn apart.
KasaiKendia 5 days ago
All pro-lifers are using false premises. It is isn't a "baby", it is a zygote or fetus. They are clouding the issue with an appeal to emotions.
BillHicks420 5 days ago
@BillHicks420 When does it become a baby? When it's born? Some abortions happen that way, so it isn't really false. Sometimes it happens while it's a fetus, sometimes while it's a baby.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
@KasaiKendia No it does not. A baby is AFTER it is born. No LEGAL abortions happen when the baby is born. To use that position is a strawman argument, because it has nothing to do with the pro-file vs pro-choice issue. If it was to happen when the baby is born, it would clearly be murder both logically, and under the constitution/law/mandates. Don't misrepresent or appeal to emotion; Abortions are about "fetuses" most of the time, not "babies"
BillHicks420 4 days ago
@BillHicks420 No legal ones in the hospitals, but since when does everyone follow every medical rule? Never, someone always has to break the rules. I've seen a few abortions where the baby was delivered to the head, and then killed. I'm not appealing to emotions since I'm not using it myself. Abortions happen while it's a fetus and a baby, sorry if you didn't know that, but now you do.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
@KasaiKendia They could strap the baby on a freaking rocket launcher for all I care. The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter, since it is not what the debate is ABOUT. How much of what you describe really happens, is really questionable, because it is not legal. (We are talking about a BABY, that's being born around the due date, and NOT in the first trimester, right?). The doctor would lose his license and go to jail, if what you describe is true.
BillHicks420 4 days ago
@BillHicks420 I'm talking about a baby around the 6-7 mark in the pregnancy. Wow strap a baby to a rocket? You have a sick mind, that's quite disturbing. I hope you dnt ever have children.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
@KasaiKendia Wow, only used to PC clean church humor I take it? I don't care. Please never have kids yourself. Anyway... 6-7 MARK? Why would you use the word "mark"? What do you mean? Week? At the 6-7th week, it is a fetus, not a baby. This is REALLY early, it doesn't matter if this is aborted in our outside of the womb. Of course, inside would be less graphic. My points remain the same, you haven't commented further...
BillHicks420 3 days ago
@BillHicks420 Wow um no, I'm used to a lot of humor, but I dnt really see what's funny about strapping a baby to a rocket. I'd be a good mother, I already have practice taking care of children. When I say 6-7 mark, I meant month. Sry, thought you'd figure it out without me saying it. 6-7 week would be early, even though that's still messed up, but I meant 6-7 months along into the pregnancy. That isn't early, that baby can survive at that point.
KasaiKendia 3 days ago
@KasaiKendia You're right. It wasn't really humorous. I was just showing the amount of fucks I gave in that second, as it pushed the focus from the issue at hand. How is that "messed up"?
BillHicks420 3 days ago
@KasaiKendia Yeah, it wasn't funny really. More meant to show how many fucks I gave, because I felt it was shifting the focus of the issue. How is 6-7 weeks "Messed up"?
Well, 6-7 months is the third trimester, which isn't legal anywhere in the world. So again, it is not part of the issue, since it is not what pro-choice want, anyway. And you witness this you said? Well did the doctor go to jail? Any news story about it? I mean give something... It is highly illegal
BillHicks420 3 days ago
@BillHicks420 Yea I understood the point of your "joke", wasn't hard to figure out. How would you know the law of every country and city in this huge world with trillions of people living on it?
KasaiKendia 3 days ago
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@BillHicks420 Yea I understood the point of your "joke", wasn't hard to figure out. How would you know the law of every country and city in this huge world with trillions of people living on it?
KasaiKendia 3 days ago
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@BillHicks420 Yea I understood the point of your "joke", wasn't hard to figure out. How would you know the law of every country and city in this huge world with trillions of people living on it?
KasaiKendia 3 days ago
@BillHicks420 6-7 week mark is messed up because it's still alive and it's being torn to shreds. How messed up and sad.
KasaiKendia 3 days ago
@KasaiKendia Funny how you sympathize, and still call it "it". IT happens to be a lump of cells at the 6-7 week marks. Yet to develop most or all internal organs, no motor and cognitive abilities, no thought, no emotions, no memories etc. In fact, at this stage, it looks like 90% of all other mammals. You are messed up, letting your emotions come before your reason.
BillHicks420 3 days ago
@BillHicks420 The reason I say it is because I dnt know wht gender the fetus is, thought tht was easy to figure out. Haha funny how you mention emotions, my emotions aren't even in this. It's my morals and mind that I use with this. I'm not messed up for thinking that killing an innocent fetus/baby is messed up when there isn't a good reason for it. Technically all humans are just a lump of cells, so I dnt really see your point when you say that.
KasaiKendia 3 days ago
@KasaiKendia The fact that you have called it a baby several times, despite me pointing out it is not a baby, shows that yes, in fact your emotions are in with this. They affect your moral perception of the issue, and others as well, if you were to use the word "baby" within a discussion. Look up "Appeal to emotion"...
BillHicks420 3 days ago
@BillHicks420 Didn't I already tell you why I put fetus/baby. Geez, told you several times already and no, my emotions aren't in this. I dnt care what a text says about emotion, since they're my emotions, I can tell when I'm using them or not and I'm not using them atm. Quit tryna act as though you knw. What affects my morals is what I see as right and wrong and what I was taught. Nothing else. Funny how you strangers on the internet act as though you know how I work.
KasaiKendia 3 days ago
@KasaiKendia ...*Fetuses, blastocysts, embryos etc. but NOT babies.
BillHicks420 4 days ago
@BillHicks420 I said fetus/baby, most women have the procedure when it's a fetus, but there are some women who have it done further along in the pregnancy.
KasaiKendia 4 days ago
you dont get it kid. abortion is killing a human and this man is fighting for a babies right to life just as he probably did when you were inside your mother and that has NOTHING to do with Iraq. A baby is just as much a baby inside the mother as it is out side,,,same dna...same soul from conseption to natural death.
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Choice=Murder
Unwanted=Murder
My Body= “”
Unplanned= “”
Equality = “”
Reproductive Rights = “”
Ah the Euphemisms service us well as history has proven. Verbal Reengineering worked on Slavery, Indians, Jews & now the most innocent & marginalized of them all, a baby in the womb.Its funny how we say "never again" then we do it again Different Rhetoric, different demographic, same outcome JPII was right we do live in a Culture of Death. You don't have to be religious to see it. Just use reason
teton99 5 days ago
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I've noticed that homosexuality and abortion are both deeply connected for people of both parties hate the very heterosexuality and gestation of which they came from. Satan hates Gods plan for the man, woman and child family design.
lowellkylewilliamson 6 days ago
If I were the pro-life guy, I'd ask this genius where he would be today if HIS mother wasn't pro-life? That would have shut him up really quick.
dalmatian847 6 days ago
@dalmatian847 Perhaps she was pro abortion but actually wanted a child. You have assumed he was a mistake, and that she only went through with the pregnancy because she has good 'Merican values. Try to think of it as pro choice rather than pro abortion. You seem to have confused yourself into believing pro abortion means anti human reproduction, which it does in a sense, but you need to apply context.
lfo98 6 days ago
@lfo98 Or perhaps she wasn't pro-choice at all. We don't know that. What we DO know is he wouldn't be around waving his stupid camcorder asking irrelevant questions about the Iraq War is she "exercised her choice" like her son is in favor of. That was my point. What exactly is your context?
dalmatian847 6 days ago
@lfo98 My point was if he asked him if his mother made the "choice" he clearly supports, he wouldn't be there. That question may have actually triggered the logical part of his brain that was clearly sleeping as he asked a completely unrelated question about the Iraq War that he somehow "schooled" that guy on.
dalmatian847 6 days ago
@lfo98 You know what the funny thing about liberals is? They view the U.S Constitution as"living and breathing" as a document, but they don't grant the the same concept to a developing human fetus.
dalmatian847 6 days ago
Do you believe babies go to heaven if they are aborted?
ImDupree 6 days ago
What this kid is saying it totally irrelevant. Even if this guy is an enthusiastic supporter of war, it has nothing to do with whether abortion is murder. That's the issue here. You can't determine whether the pro-life view is true by attacking the character of pro-lifers.
Also, it doesn't make sense to say "it's just an embryo." "Adolescent," "toddler," "infant," "fetus," and "embryo" are just words that describe different phases of human life.
Mystagogia87 6 days ago
Here's the logical argument. Watch youtube video Aborto real por solución salina and then express your argument.
timetomakeauturn 6 days ago
far from "schooled". this 18 year old behind the camera has no idea how to make a logical argument. nothing he is saying has anything to do with abortion. All he can do is attack a straw man. i doubt he'd even knows what that means though.
Chriscjs 1 week ago
"What about the Iraqi babies ehhhh" That dumbass holding the camera needs to shut the hell up cause he has no idea what he is talking about
burningsusie 1 week ago
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burningsusie 1 week ago
LOL I'm not sure how you're doing any "schooling" here... You can't stick to one subject, but rather go for red herrings and rabbit trails. Hypocrisy is one issue, fair enough (BTW not all pro-life people support these wars) but that really has nothing to do with the question "Is it a baby or not a baby?" Your "monkeys have hands" argument is stupid, arbitrary, and works against you if anything- Hands only come from (once)living, individual entities anyway.
ZapruderJr 1 week ago
If it ain't your body, it's not your decision! period!
Waydejack 1 week ago
I've always been curious. Do gays put that voice on or is it natural.
mikeyT1413 1 week ago
@queerveganliberal Nice non-sequitur argument. You didn't tear apart anyone...
jmf1902 1 week ago
This pro-choice fool could have been easily crushed by a competent pro-lifer.
TheBigred1212 1 week ago
this is funny hes trying to ague why u shouldnt abort babys it is their right if some women was raped would u still expect them to keep the baby if they had another child but didnt have enough to sustain there other children would u still expect them to keep it and starve try to get the homeles mothers of the strrets before u talk
realAaron 1 week ago
@realAaron Giving birth does not require one to keep the child, tho it does allow a mother who had previously decided not to keep the child, the option to do so (something abortion does not making abortion the "anti-choice"). Statistics show that the majority (75-85%)of women impregnated by rape choose to give birth with none regretting, they call it "healing", whereas those that abort 85-95% regret the abortion calling it worse then the rape. 2 million couples waiting to adopt. Waiting. Waiting
Minxcomix 1 week ago
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Abortions are not murder. Some have no choice. With all this religeon anti-abortion stuff makes no sense. When a young kid dies say one i knew Who died in a car accident he was only in highschool. They say well you know, god works in mysterious ways. Although when it comes to this you think its cruel. Obvoisly "god" put it here for a reason so cut the crap. your not folling anyone.
turtlebro123 1 week ago
Also the queer guy arguing will never have children so he's probably jealous of the straight guy.
Liam2621 1 week ago
He's right about the bombing babies bit in Iraq but why is he attacking a man who's trying to stop babies being killed? My theory is that gay men don't have the same morlas as straight men, the real reason abortion went up is because of feminism
Liam2621 1 week ago
you are right about the war, but not about abortions. the sanctity of life and ignoring his arguments. stop dehumanizing embryos. ganging up on an old man videoing him under pressure. fuck you.
turdrhinofiend 1 week ago
Both of these arguments are seriously flawed.. Embarrassing on both parts.
UrMomalex 1 week ago 7
"Millions of babies are being bombed to death"?
Really? Where?
This guy's mistake was responding to the strawman the guy with the video camera was setting up for him. I notice that we never did get to see the picture the man was holding.
Minxcomix 1 week ago
a baby cant think... hmmm?
felicetanka 1 week ago
KID UR PROBABLY GAY FROM WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE, OH AND YES ABORTION IS BAD!!!!
Wwjdlol 1 week ago
@Wwjdlol see, why would it matter if he were gay or not? it wouldn't affect you in any way. Same with abortion, it doesn't affect anyone accept for the woman that conceived it. Sorry, but you just got told by a 15 year old.
jbangshuffle 1 week ago
@Wwjdlol your argument is invalid. elaborate or get the fuck out. a lot of people that choose to have abortions are people that wouldnt be able to supply a good quality of life to the baby they would have. they may resent it, they probably wont want it and the child will have a bad home life. the guy here being gay, if he is, doesnt matter and your probably just some ignorant 13 year old jackass parroting what his parents have told him to cover up the fact that youre a mistake
IxHATExCOWENLEETIN 1 week ago
have murdered proportionately so many more! So the guy was technically right, we are protecting the people there. Also you cant compare the two things. Someone can easily change whether they choose to abort a baby or not in certain circumstances, you cant just change war... gotta go with the protestor on this one...
iiSly1 1 week ago
the guy shooting this is an idiot. I'm biased opinion, in fact I came from a video where a father owns some pro-life protestors and thought it was awesome, but this guy is an idiot. First of all his facts are so skewed its halarious!! A million and a half babies died in iraq? First of all the US hasnt had any "bombing runs" in iraq. Any time the US barrage from the sky was with accurate systems like the AC-130 and very little civilian life has been lost, while on the other hand the terrorists
iiSly1 1 week ago
what the gay camera kid forgot to mention was the kids had bombs and guns....they werent exactly innocent. omerta
KeithCushmanProducts 1 week ago
"A million and a half people have been bombed to death in the Iraq War."
53 MILLION babies have been aborted.
I rest my case. Look who's getting schooled now.
qwerty8me556 1 week ago
No more scratching your arm! That's thousands of lives in just one soft scratch!
Peaceeverbody 1 week ago
cancer is a form of life. the millions of bacteria you kill everytime you wash your hands is life. You don't give a fuck about life when it's suits you. A fetus is the very definition of a parasite. It lives off the host and if the host doesn't want to support it and risk their life that's their choice. Or should you be forced to die of cancer if you get it because base forms of life is so precious?
kryptic127 1 week ago
@kryptic127 A fetus is a parasite? Is that really what you pro-abortionists are saying now?
bluemu 1 week ago
@bluemu it does TECHNICALLY meet the definition of a parasite
musicmode13100 1 week ago
@musicmode13100 Parasites are of a different species.
Minxcomix 1 week ago
@Minxcomix I kinda meant the whole non-mutual attachment(exception: planned pregnancy) and that the fetus leeches off the mother
musicmode13100 1 week ago
@musicmode13100 "leeches" requires a willful attachment tho. Except for the case of rape, which is illegal and which impregnation creating two victims instead of one is rare, an unborn human is conceived as a direct result to the willful participation of a man and a woman in the only act which we can be conceived. The Little One is within their mother's womb not by their will, but by the will of their parents. This does not constitute leeching.
Minxcomix 1 week ago
@Minxcomix i didnt call it a leech. the act of leeching is the "sucking" of nutrients from a host in a manner that has a negative impact on the organism being "leeched"
musicmode13100 1 week ago
@musicmode13100 again, a willful act on the part of the one doing the leeching. Since we consider a 35 yr old man living rent free off his parents "leeching", why do we not consider the 9 yr old living rent free of his parents also "leeching"? It has to do with the age of the person and the parental responsibility due them.
BTW, science shows that cells sneak across the placenta in both directions. Science knows that babe's cells provides mom with increased resistance to serious diseases
Minxcomix 1 week ago